[Resolved] Question re car stereo, aux and bluetooth - Touch Pro, Fuze Accessories

I have a feeling that this can't be done (because I looked into it with my XDA Exec a few years ago), but....
Is there any way that I can play mp3s via the extUSB into a car stereo (via an AUX in) and yet answer calls via the same stereo's integrated bluetooth via the headset profile?
The stereo would normally drop the AUX in sound for a bluetooth call, but clearly the extUSB would normally handle calls if a audio output device is plugged into it. With my Exec, I seem to remember that the hardwired audio output would be the default, and so the bluetooth would never engage.
If there is a hardware solution, I would be very keen to know! Even better if the extUSB also charged my Vario IV in a passive holder.

Jock said:
I have a feeling that this can't be done (because I looked into it with my XDA Exec a few years ago), but....
Is there any way that I can play mp3s via the extUSB into a car stereo (via an AUX in) and yet answer calls via the same stereo's integrated bluetooth via the headset profile?
The stereo would normally drop the AUX in sound for a bluetooth call, but clearly the extUSB would normally handle calls if a audio output device is plugged into it. With my Exec, I seem to remember that the hardwired audio output would be the default, and so the bluetooth would never engage.
If there is a hardware solution, I would be very keen to know! Even better if the extUSB also charged my Vario IV in a passive holder.
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What about playing music through the blue tooth of your car stereo? Tricking the car into thinking its actually engaged in a call so it plays music. Might have to be something done on the phone side to transmit the music as a call and then when you receive a call the music stops and you can answer the call and when the call ends music resumes? Just a thought i dont know if it is possible at all. But you bring up a really good idea.

ptyindian said:
What about playing music through the blue tooth of your car stereo?
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Thanks for the thought, but the stereo doesn't accept bluetooth streams - it simply just has the ability to act as a hands free device.
Any more thoughts anyone? (Although someone has just posted about a device that looks intriguing with AUX and power in)

It's definitely doable. Thats what I've done with my non BT Pioneer deck. Check out my post here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3278241#post3278241.
Hope this helps.

mattyman said:
It's definitely doable. Thats what I've done with my non BT Pioneer deck. Check out my post here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3278241#post3278241.
Hope this helps.
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Thank you too for the feedback, but I can't see a bluetooth device in your chain. Perhaps I wasn't clear in the original post, but in the end I suppose the question is can calls be handled over bluetooth when there is any audio outpu device plugged into the extUSB?

Sorry. My bad. You are right, I did misread your post.

Jock said:
Thank you too for the feedback, but I can't see a bluetooth device in your chain. Perhaps I wasn't clear in the original post, but in the end I suppose the question is can calls be handled over bluetooth when there is any audio outpu device plugged into the extUSB?
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the answer is yes. that is what i do daily.
i listen to music through quality wired headphones, and when a call comes in i use my bt headset WITHOUT unplugging the headphones from extUSB.
all you need to do is answer the call using the answer button on your bt headset and not your phone.
in some phones, if you will press the send key on the phone and not the bt headset, the call will transfer to the phone instead of the bt headset.
hope i was able to help.

shlomki said:
i listen to music through quality wired headphones, and when a call comes in i use my bt headset WITHOUT unplugging the headphones from extUSB.
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Thank you.
Do you think it matters that you're using headphones rather than a headset? I'm just wondering, since you refer to headphones, if the lack of speaker in your wired device means the call will hand over to the BT device - this will allow me to work out what I need to buy.

hmm i think since your aux input wont really have a mic attached it should hand over the call to the bluetooth headset from what the other person is saying.

Hi, I don't know if this will apply to your stereo setup but I thought I would let you know my setup anyway.
I use the HTC multifunction audio cable http://www.expansys.com/p.aspx?i=171925 which lets me charge my phone via a car charger and use the 3.5mm audio output to the stereos aux input at the same time - all of which are in center armrest compartment.
I use bluetooth connection to the factory installed bluetooth prep (BMW 3-Series). When a call comes in the TP pauses the audio and the BT phone then takes over. When the call ends the TP un-pauses the audio

I just installed a Blaupunkt MP57 on Sunday and did exactly what you're describing. Phone connected via aux playing music, answer or make calls via bluetooth on the stereo and the music pauses then restarts when the call is ended.

http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-bluetooth-audio-v1-0.html
http://www.acbpocketsoft.com/Products/acbToggleBT/acbToggleBT-Free--3.html
Both can send all outgoing audio from your WM device via BT headset channel instead of A2DP. It's not advanced audio but it will let you play audio over the headset BT channel. Sound can be tweaked using SRS WOW HD.
ExtUSB is just a port which will enable playing MP3 tracks on for example USB drive? Why not put your connection in USB mode then?

I'm not sure if this will help you, but I bought a Motorola Bluetooth Car Kit. I don't have the "phone" feature built into my car Stereo, so I used the external amplified speaker and mic for "phone" functions. The Car Kit has an Aux Out, with I feed into my car stereo. When I get into the car, the Bluetooth initiates two separate "connections". One for the "phone" and one for the "MP3 Player". You can have either one or both. The music plays through the car stereo (via the Aux Input) and phone calls play the the external Car Kit Speaker. It is like having two independent bluetooth "channels". When I have Voice Commander enabled, it communicates through the "phone" channel, i.e., the Car Kit mic and external speaker. That is also where my incoming email is announced through. My Garmin GPS "speaks" through the Aux out and the Car Stereo though. I'm not sure how these routes are selected. Personally, I would prefer that the GPS also communicated through the "phone" channel, that way if I am listening to the Radio, or Sirius, or a CD (not on AUX-IN), I would still here the GPS voice guidance. I'm not sure if that can be changed or not.
Hope this helps.

I do this all the time. USB to 3.5mm stereo to Pioneer head unit and calls come in over the BT

Thanks all for the input.
Just bought a Brando adaptor:
http://www.inkino.co.uk/zen/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=126&products_id=1502
Tested it and Copilot and Music run from the Aux out. Bluetooth hand over perfectly. As an aside, I find WMP is a better MP3 player, simply because I can reduce the volume in the software, but leave Copilot to use the system volume at a slightly higher level so the voice doesn't get lost (the HTC player doesn't seem to have the same capability).
Could have bought the HTC branded device from the same place, but the main lead from the Ext USB is slightly longer and more inflexible so wouldn't easily fit under my car holder.
BTW, since I live close to the shop (plus I love instant gratification as opposed to mail order), I visited the Inkino shop in London. I must say that the staff were very knowledgeable and helpful and the shop has a huge range of HTC accessories (including a branded battery and extended battery for my Universal, which I am planning to resurrect). Not sure about the prices vs ebay, but for the bricks and mortar approach in the UK, where it is difficult to find anything HTC - 1st class!

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KJam Microphone switches off when connected to car stereo

Hi,
I have connected my KJam to my car stereo via a cable from the 2.5mm jack to the aux port of my car stereo. Tom Tom voice and phone calls are routed through my car stereo. Sometimes, the microphone will not work when I take a call. I can hear the caller perfectly but they can't hear me. Other times, the phone functionality works perfectly and we can both hear each other great.
If anyone can suggest any ideas, I would be very grateful.
Thanks
if your using a jack to connect it to your car, then its will prob. stop the mic working as its routing the audio to you car in the same way the headset with mic that you got with the k-jam does. I had this problem on mine, but due to the fact that i use a bluetooth neadset in the car fixed that little problem 8)
That's the end of my k-jam desires then.
I use my MDA compact in the same way you describe, for TomTom, Hands free calling and to play my music through.... and my microphone works fine with the headphone jack in.
I guess one thing to check would be the number of rings on your 2.5mm jack. If you have 3 then theres a possibility the k-jam thinks you have a mic on the end of the wire. If you have 2 rings (normal stereo headphones) then there must be another issue somewhere.
thanks for your replies. My concern was around the fact that sometimes the microphone works and sometimes not. I wonder if there is a workaround or a specific type of cable that I need to ensure that only the audio is routed and not the mic as well.
Thanks for all your help.l
never tried this myself, so i can only assume it would work. you could hack a cheap wired headset up, removing the earpieces but leaving the microphone. then add a stereo 3.5 plug so you can hook it up to your car stereo.
SpeedN
I have that very problem also, it's gotten that annoying that i've stopped using it through my stereo. you are able to get around it by popping the cable out of the kjam, then putting it back in.
pain in the ass though none the less.
What is the phone is set to Speakerphone ?
Even though Speakerphone is currently not working...
Hey all,
Just wondering if anyone has had any success in fixing this problem? I am having the same issue. I have a 2 ring 2.5-3.5mm adapter connected (so it should only be routing the audio, not the mic) and sometimes the caller can hear me, sometimes not. At one stage I found by unplugging the cable, setting to speakerphone, then unsetting speakerphone and plugging the cable back in would get it to work, but not anymore...
Any ideas?!?! I love my XDAII mini but this is driving me up the wall!
Cheers,
jlitjens

can i connect my universal to my car stereo ?

hi, i was wondering if there is a wat to connect my wizard to my car stereo and play mp3's from wy wizard stored on memory card but play them using my car speakers setting my radio to AUX ? is is possible..i hope you all got what i mean cos i am not sure myself if i know what i mean cheers, cudo
I use a Sony Adapter Casette. Just plug it in the Universal and play the casette on your car and it will work fine. There are other options too like wireless stuff. But I prefer this method better, at least I don't have to worry about signal being obscured.
and what if i dont have casettee i got only cd ??
If you only have CD and no casette, you only either use BT or FM transmitter.
I used to use casette adapter but now I have a car stereo with AUX input.
If you also want to be able to receive calls you would need to have an adapter with a mic as a normal audio plug when plugged into the Universal will disable the internal mic and only carry over the output audio.
See this link, we discuss about the correct adapter for Universal in the lower part. I should receive one in this week and will post the result later once I verify its working fine.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=54823
Which PPC are you using, Wizard or Universal? You subject title is about Universal but your message body is asking about Wizard.
They have different size of audio plugs.
sorry i wasnt very specific...i am asking about unicersal, i am using both of them hence the mistake. sorry about that
Good news. I received the PQTAA from PC-Mobile and it works with the Universal!
I have tested all functions with my Universal:
- Stereo audio output is carried perfectly to the car stereo, no noise whatsoever.
- Microphone is working great, my voice can be heard clearly.
- The call receive button on the unit is working ok too to receive/pick up incoming call.
This is a great audio adapter (in addition to the fact its a handsfree unit).
I find its a lot better way to connect the Universal to the car audio system rather than using other method like BT.
As most car mounting solutions do not include audio adapter to connect the Universal to the car audio system, the PQTAA is a perfect solution.
If you have a cassete player, you can combine it with the casette adapter. If you have an AUX input in your car stereo, thats the best.
For pictures, see this discussion:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=54823

wired headset?

Hi chaps,
Do you have any suggestion for a wired compact headset to take phone calls?
I got a bt but its not always on and when I get a call, I dont want everybody around me to hear the conversation but when i pop in a 3.5mm stereo headphone, the microphone stops working
I cant find a combo in-ear headphone microphone thingi with one 3.5mm jack or a mini usb headset... so any suggestions?
What about the original one in the package?
You can leave your device in the pocket and accept or quit phonecalls.
You can set the volume of the incoming call to lowest with the slider left to the navi-stick, then other people do not hear your calls if you are 2-3 meters away.
I'd like to know a wired headset which shows the caller-ID in the microphone case, like the old sony walkman with the display on the wire, showing actual song and volume. The 3.5 jack will not support this, i know.
yeah you can just leave any 3.5mm headphones pluggged in, as long as they are plugged in before the phone comes in you can use the inbuit microphone.
The device still rings, so you just put the buds in your ears and answer.
This is what I do with my senseinhers.
I'd like a decent replacement corded set, don't like the sound quality from BT ones I've tried.
Had a USB one from gpsforless that you can plug your own headphones in just past the mic, but it wasn't well built and lasted about 3 weeks.
I bought this one for use in the car while plugged into my AUX in on the car stereo.
http://cgi.ebay.com/FOR-CINGULAR-85...ryZ15040QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
It works great with the Athena, there are a bunch of different types on ebay, just search for "Tytn Adapter" and you will find a bunch.
Pretty much any HTC Extended USB based adapter will work with the Athena.
Good Luck
G
thanks for the advice; i bought it second hand and didnt get the original one. does that one have a mike?
i use the original wired headset u1000,
but i get problem like yours,
i i can't send my voice through microphone headset,
my friend can't hear my voice wwhen made phone call,
that problem came after reflashed from original wm5 to wm6,
i tried 3 different wm6 but still in microphone headset problem,
have any ide ? thanks
imamlab said:
i use the original wired headset u1000,
but i get problem like yours,
i i can't send my voice through microphone headset,
my friend can't hear my voice wwhen made phone call,
that problem came after reflashed from original wm5 to wm6,
i tried 3 different wm6 but still in microphone headset problem,
have any ide ? thanks
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I don't have such a problem with the original wired headset. The sound is excellent in both WM5 and WM6.
My wired headphones died pretty quickly, so now I use a pair of sennseisher buds, the microphone on the athena works when using standard earbuds, so although not hands free, it is at least a bit more private.
I like this from PPC Techs.
http://www.pocketpctechs.com/main.asp?unit=HTC_Advantage-895&area=accessories&item=PPCPADPT17
It gives you both 2.5mm and 3.5mm output so you can have your headphones in one plug and the headset in the other.
They have another adapter that goes from the USB for the same purpose but I don't have that one.
fards said:
My wired headphones died pretty quickly, so now I use a pair of sennseisher buds, the microphone on the athena works when using standard earbuds, so although not hands free, it is at least a bit more private.
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ouh.. interesting to ur post
yeah maybe that is the KEY,
i'am forget,
i have changed my original earbud with Senheiser mx500, same as you, died quickly, then again changed to original N6233 earbud, great sound for music
but maybe causing malfunction the microphone ?
thanks a lots, i will try to change my earbud,

Play music via your TP on your car Radio

Found this on feabay today, think it is a very nice idea, and very cheap
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/CAR-FM-TRANSM...14&_trkparms=72:1300|66:2|65:12|39:1|240:1318
Regards
Rich
Ever Tried it??
I Read the page and it kind of looks weird.. it says the charger does not charge the phone just the transmitter.. Also it lacks a picture of the appropriate connector..
Just wondering if anybody else has tried it?
I have ordered one, and will let you know when it arrives
I would say it does power the handset too, and the connector is Mini USB.
I have one and with the Pro it has a bug to activate the voicelabel when i play my MP3's
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It seems that you could get it caught in a feeback loop if you have the FM radio set to listen to the station that you are trying to transmit on.
Wonder what it would do?...hmmm.
ktwildchild said:
It seems that you could get it caught in a feeback loop if you have the FM radio set to listen to the station that you are trying to transmit on.
Wonder what it would do?...hmmm.
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Well since you need headphones plugged in or the FM radio won't work, I don't think you could find out!
The Motorola T505 is really nice, though a little pricey. Its basically a bluetooth speakerphone with an FM transmitter.
So your music and calls use BT A2DP, then the T505 broadcasts that over an FM station. It'll even pick the best station and tell you to tune to it. If you're listening to music and a call comes in, it'll pause the music announce the number, and if you answer it, it'll play the call over your car speakers (like OnStar).
I've used it on a 5+ hour trip and never had to charge it, I forgot how long the battery is rated for.
In my car i´ve a CD Changer Radio without a cd changer connected. Those radios have a connection possibility (the normal connector to the changer) at the rear, where you can connect a cable which ends in a 2,5 mm (we call it "klinkenstecker", i dont know the english word). So you can buy an adapter from USB to 2,5 mm "klinke", and your TP gives great sound, in my opinion its better than the car radio ... The manufactor of the connector is called HAMA
Greetz
Boris
P.S.: sorry for my bad english
Phone music through car stereo plus a lot more using iTech Stereo clip
I wrote a similar post a few montsh back (almost a year) in the Tilt section.
a very nifty way is getting a A2DP stereo BT headset connected to the car.
Easy as 1-2-3 if you have a car stereo with either AUX or so called iPod input (eeek). Most of these inputs are either in the center console or armrest storage compartment.
How to Step-1 (Music and Navi):
Get a cheap but good working BT headset with std. headphone out (3.5mm). I use an iTech clip 35 for example.
Get a 3.5mm to 3.5mm cable, if you want to have handsfree at the same time get a LONG cable.
Connect iTech with AUX through cable
Start BT and activate A2DP profile (also known as stereo headset in some devices).
Start BT and AudioManager at phone and enjoy music through your car stereo.
Since A2DP will route ALL output to the BT device and therefore AUX input of your car you may listen to your voice navigation as well. Cool thing Tilt and Raphael will play music while Navi is active and mute music for Navi directions and come back...to music.
How to Step-2 (Music, Navi, Handsfree):
If you use a long 3.5mm to 3.5mm cable you can route the cable and iTech clip somewhere near your head (visor) or even behind the little grid MOST cars have meanwhile regardless if they are equipped with a handsfree BT option or not (take a look at the overhead light and consult with a good shop manual in most cases there is enough space).
Mount the clip and - voila - here is your handsfree.
Hint, if you permanently install the iTech clip extend the charging cable and use a cigarette lighter with USB port to charge.
why not use the cab bt to head phones. and mount the ptt funtion to turn on the app to forward the audio to your bt car system then no wires
Agreed but BTAudio and BTToggle messes with the phone, so how do you pick up a call?
FMTalk unit suffers from alternator whine interference
Jimllfixit said:
Found this on feabay today, think it is a very nice idea, and very cheap
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/CAR-FM-TRANSM...14&_trkparms=72:1300|66:2|65:12|39:1|240:1318
Regards
Rich
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I had my PURE Highway In-Car DAB Digital Radio FM Transmitter stolen which I mainly used to transmit my TP MP3's to the car radio and needed a replacement.
So I bought a FMTalk unit for use in my 3 year old Renault Laguna but it picks up alternator whine interference and crackles too.
I tried these too but had the same whine
Belkin TuneCast II
Sendai XM800 FM Transmitter
In the end I got a Griffin iTrip Auto Universal Plus which works a treat at a reasonable price although it doesn't have the phone talk function like the more pricey Motorola T505 or Parrot MK6100.
The main point was that the FMTalk unit suffers from alternator whine interference

Decent sound in car?

Hi, I have an XDA Serra, very pleased with this phone so far, the only downside is battery life, but hey I can live with that.
I am using it in the car for Sat Nav (Co Pilot 6) or in car holder for calls on the move.
Unfortunately the sound generated from the handset speaker isn't great and therefore I would like to be able to either use a car holder that amplifies the sound, or use the phone through the a car stereo.
My current stereo is pretty basic so I am looking to change it for a Bluetooth model, however I would like to know what works and which model to buy (not too expensive).
I would like to be able to 1) hear phone calls 2) run co-pilot 3) play music through the car stereo. Is it possible to do this through a BT capable Stereo? anyone got this working succesfully?
Cheers, Blair
There is another issue with the sound: as the speaker ist on the back side of the phone, most car holders will cover the speaker, so the volume goes down. Same happens when you lay it on the table.
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dark_lobito, thanks for your response, I must admit I didn't pick up on that at first, just checked my car kit and it appears that the speaker is not fully covered, but is blocking some of the speaker.
I bought this http://www.expansys.com/d.aspx?i=169986 which is OK for the price, and gives enough sound for a quiet room indoors. It's not amazing but is good enough for using as a portable radio/music player, but not in the car.
I have been looking and there are quite a few car stereos with BT audio streaming, as well as phone capabilities. But I need to know if it works as I want it to before splashing out.
I am hoping somebody has got these functions working with a BT Car Stereo to advise me.
Cheers, Blair
My car has an Auxilliary input, so I used the adapter that came with the phone and plugged the charger and Aux In wire to the phone. That sends the sound through the speakers of your car.
Also when you use the adapter that came with the phone it lets you use the microphone also so it works perfectly.
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samz465, thanks for reply, but I'm not sure what u mean? The only adapter I got with the phone (O2 XDA Serra version) was a cable that allows u to connect to a 3.5 jack.
Sorry to be a pain, any pictures showing what adaptor you mean?
Cheers, Blair
Can I jump in here?
I have the HTC Pro too (Sprint)
I also have a car with an IPOD input
Well tonight I connected that to the phone's dongle via the 3.5mm input.
It sounds so good with my speakers ..BUT when I connect the USB headset that came with it, and make a phone call, they can't hear me but I can hear them just LOUD
Am I doing something wrong?
jeff
You might want to check out the Motorola T605 - Bluetooth hands-free car kit. It has stereo BT profile and an FM transmitter.
Might save you the cost and installation of a new head unit.
I've never used the T605 so I can't vouch for how good it is.
i've bought a car kit fm transmitter from ebay & made a quick review of it here. it works ok but you can only charge it if you don't use the fm transmitter & vice versa, it does not have a speaker unfortunately... does the job ok otherwise. decent/good enough sound for GPS & even for music playback
Too get better sound you should also try SRS WOW HD. It boosts volume and certainly clears up the mumble. Voices are recognizable as voices instead of monsters coming out of a can.

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