I am using cm 6.1 nightly and would like to know how to tune my mobile for long battery life. Wish setcpu could look into my usage and suggest presets for long battery life or performance.
my main is: Min: 245, Max: 710
Screen off: Min: 245, Max: 352
even without the screen off profiles or anything i still get 1-2 days + depending on my usage, and since i like to play with my phone and abuse the wifi/3g it lasts like a day anyway.
With screen on, max 633, min 480. create a profile so when screen is off, max 352 & min 160.
Mine is atm at 10% battery and it's been on for 51h & 30m and in that time it's been awake for 9h & 38m.
When i'm home, wifi is always on.
Gps is only on when needed, and so is bluetooth.
A suggestion for setcpu, it can collect the settings from users and provide the average as an option. This will really help new users. Integration with cm parts will be kickass.
kevin2516 and fusk.
i like yours max and min settings, but what type of scalling u guys use?
ondemand
userspace
performance
interactive (how does it work? couldnt find it on setcpu site)
thanks!
Vecaly said:
kevin2516 and fusk.
i like yours max and min settings, but what type of scalling u guys use?
ondemand
userspace
performance
interactive (how does it work? couldnt find it on setcpu site)
thanks!
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"couldnt find it on setcpu site"
Oh really? http://www.pokedev.com/setcpu/#7
nemuro said:
"couldnt find it on setcpu site"
Oh really? http://www.pokedev.com/setcpu/#7
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yeah i saw it before, but i didnt find interactive.
interactive = conservative?
http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/4434-froyo-kernels-by-slayher/
Look for the small text in the signature of the OP.
nemuro said:
http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/4434-froyo-kernels-by-slayher/
Look for the small text in the signature of the OP.
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thanks.
kept "ondemand".
By having different profiles, we end up changing the CPU frequency limits frequently. Could this harm the CPU? This question was asked elsewhere but am not able to track it (iirc, it was not answered)
I think it will harm CPU. i have been using few profiles for a week. Yesterday it froze for 6 times. . So yeah....
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Vecaly said:
kevin2516 and fusk.
i like yours max and min settings, but what type of scalling u guys use?
ondemand
userspace
performance
interactive (how does it work? couldnt find it on setcpu site)
thanks!
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I use ondemand and i've set threshold at 90%
works for me.
hackworks said:
By having different profiles, we end up changing the CPU frequency limits frequently. Could this harm the CPU? This question was asked elsewhere but am not able to track it (iirc, it was not answered)
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No it does not harm the cpu.
think of other cpu's like intel or amd, they also can be throttled either through the hardware or software, to lower power consumption when not used, and visa versa.
I just use the main profile, the phone tends to freeze when switching profiles so i removed all the ones i had.
Running 160-672mhz. Running fine and doesn't freeze anymore.
When i use a profile for screen off, it sometimes takes a second or two to switch cpu speeds. It's kind of annoying as if i don't wait for it to change to the main speed, it may freeze.
Anyone else experiencing this ?
Related
As android builds are getting more and more closer to being daily builds, one of the standing issues that remains is battery life.
This thread is where posts concerning How to Save battery should go. NOT Questions, but suggestions. If your suggestion is one to look into, it will be added to the OP.
UPDATE: You can now use ALL GOVERNORS For the CPU! (Read more to find out how) --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
SetCPU
SetCPU, is an app more commonly used for over/under clocking devices.
This short tutorial will show you how you get the app,
get it running, and of course save battery!
*YOU NEED A ROOTFS.IMG THAT GRANTS YOU ROOT ACCESS!*
1. Get SetCPU
A. Download it from *HERE*. (The only XDA thread I could find for it)
OR
B. Support this great application and get it from the Android market by searching for SetCPU.
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2. Getting the App working
1. Once you have the application installed, launch it from your drawer and either grant it Root Permissions or it may auto-configure.
2. Hit Auto Detect Speeds.
3. It should show you the speeds your device it currently running at, now move over to [Profiles] and click Enable and if you want click on Notification.
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3. Make your profiles
1. Sleep Profile - 384 Max/245 Min- Interactive setting
(It may seem high, but this keeps it so that your device wakes up quickly)
2. Battery < 30
Max 614/460 Min- Interactive/Conservative Setting
*Try out the SetCPU Widget!*
If you have any personal settings that you think might be better than these please do post!
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UPDATE 9/15 ALL CPU Governors!
To use the modules use this kernel built from the GIT, and hit auto detect speeds on SetCPU again. Under the main tab choose Your preferred setting..
You can find what all the the kernels differ in in the further pages of this thread, I will update OP later.
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Advanced Tab
20000 Sampling Rate
30-50 Up Threshold (THIS IS THE KEY: This means when your CPU load hits 30%, it will scale up the mhz. If the phone still responds too slow for your taste, set this lower)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=777921
Check Set on Boot (And Apply)
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Turning off Background Services and Adjusting Brightness
Things like Bluetooth, WiFi, Sync, GPS, and excessive brightness can really kill your battery.
A quick way to manage these settings is to hold down to add a widget on your home screen and choose [Power Widget].
This stock widget allows you to quickly see the service's your using, and the farthest one to your right allows you to switch between four brightness settings.
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Using that new kernel link provided, you'll get a nice boost in standby time too! Enjoy!
Additional battery saving tips:
* Don't use a live wallpapers
* Turn off 3G connectivity (Eclair-based ROMS need apps like APNDroid to do so)
* Turn off Background-enabled data transfers in the Sync page.
the app screebl is a battery saver for whenever you have your screen on.
MOD EDIT:
Screebl Pro is a PAID FOR APP..
Link deleted and warning given please do not post warez in the future.
Mark.
Is that a Paid application from the Market? If so it is warez. (Big No-No)
Shatterv2 said:
Is that a Paid application from the Market? If so it is warez. (Big No-No)
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no it's donation-ware. You can find SetCPU in the G1 device section of the XDA forums for free...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=505419
Can we have on our hd2 a folder with Android Sdk ? Like in a rooted one ?
aussiebum said:
no it's donation-ware. You can find SetCPU in the G1 device section of the XDA forums for free...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=505419
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Yes that was already stated in the OP
Shatterv2 said:
*YOU NEED A ROOTFS.IMG THAT GRANTS YOU ROOT ACCESS!*
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Can you post one?
Ultimaex said:
Can you post one?
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read here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7088391&postcount=4
Thanks for the tips!
Ultimaex said:
Can you post one?
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Rooted RootFS.img files by michyprima can be found *HERE* in the Installation Instructions section.
Mark.
SetCPU forcecloses on me with dan's froyo without sense. Anybody get this combo to work for them? Also, I did replace the rootfs file.
Strange, try the new froyo build by Darkstone.
reocej said:
SetCPU forcecloses on me with dan's froyo without sense. Anybody get this combo to work for them? Also, I did replace the rootfs file.
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Yeah, I'm using SetCPU 2.01 with Dan's v1 vanilla froyo fine. When set to use "ondemand" CPU Governor and Autodetect speeds, getting much better battery life - it's only dropping ~1% every hour now EDIT: when idle, of course
aussiebum said:
Yeah, I'm using SetCPU 2.01 with Dan's v1 vanilla froyo fine. When set to use "ondemand" CPU Governor and Autodetect speeds, getting much better battery life - it's only dropping ~1% every hour now EDIT: when idle, of course
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Happy to help!
Next thing (when I get around to it) is probably to try out the Conservative CPU Governor module... that will correctly scale CPU power according to load (ie. 245mhz => 384, etc) instead of like On Demand, where it jumps from 245mhz => 998mhz => lower....
ATK
My favorite Ap Right now: Advanced Task Killer - you can find it on market for free. With this you can kill tasks who run in backround etc.
RuffRap said:
My favorite Ap Right now: Advanced Task Killer - you can find it on market for free. With this you can kill tasks who run in backround etc.
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Use Taskiller. Red Icon in the market. Free App is the exact same as the paid one. Kills tasks as well but detects tasks that ATK cant. Includes features like End apps once screen turns off and kill all apps 10sec's after boot. Great App IMO.
I've found out that JuiceDefender does a good job as well. If you buy the extension (UltraDefender?) it also has a CPU governer module which regulates your CPU speed based on usage.
maseo said:
I've found out that JuiceDefender does a good job as well. If you buy the extension (UltraDefender?) it also has a CPU governer module which regulates your CPU speed based on usage.
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No need to pay - as I mentioned before, the "conservative" cpu governor module that is freely available (do a search!) will do exactly what you mentioned when used with SetCPU.
mods if this is the wrong place for this post please move accordingly.
I used to run setcpu on my desire and could set the min value to 245 and watch it stabilise at that. Now when I set the same parameters on my dhd, watching the CPU values I see it fluctuating between the min value of 245 and the max value every couple of seconds and it never seems to stabilise.
I have scaling set to on demand, whereas on the desire I used smartass. This doesn't seem to be an option in my dhd but as far as I can see this is the only difference.
Any ideas on why the fluctuation? This occurs even after killing all tasks.
Did you disable perflock?
sent from my brain using telepathy
Yep, made no difference. I'm curious to know why there is no smartass option as this is what worked best with my desire?
Using leedroid rom BTW if that has any bearing on things?
do you use a custom kernel?
Ah, that's one thing I haven't done ... any thoughts on which to use?
I have tried the buzz uv with Leedroid but it doesn't want to know!
hey I have the same problem...
I use Leedroid rom and the kernel to max 1,22 Ghz and the smartass setting...
SetCpu shifts between min and max cpu settings ??
dk_iceman said:
hey I have the same problem...
I use Leedroid rom and the kernel to max 1,22 Ghz and the smartass setting...
SetCpu shifts between min and max cpu settings ??
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Yep, every few seconds it changes from min to max!
I have tried also flashing the kernel without Leedroid installed and still no joy. Am I right in thinking I should be able to update the kernel simply by choosing 'install rom from sd card' in rom manager?
... or am I doing something wrong?
PS - yes I have root and S-OFF
Anyone have any recommendations for Profiles on Set CPU?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=721156
That thread was posted a year ago on some set cpu profiles.
You may want to give an app called Tasker a try. Its pretty much Setcpu and has a lot more functionality.
Set your main profile to conservative. Heard it makes a little difference
i'd say none. install a custom kernel, and use the smartass governer. does the work of setcpu automatically, and sometimes even better than setcpu.
mark22179 said:
Anyone have any recommendations for Profiles on Set CPU?
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Used it for a while but found that it provides very little value so removed it.
A simple trimming of the phone's configuration (e.g. disabled Latitude and huge email syncs) allows me to have >50% at end of day.
Same for other battery savers such as Guice Defender.
(EVO/cm7x).
hello everyone
i have a quick question
is it true i shouldn't use setvsel with CM7?because i just read that in the FAQ thread for CM7 here:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1065798
and i need setvsel because i use it to undervolting and also i don't to overclock my cpu to 1Ghz since 800mhz can handle all the games i play and im getting 1900-2100 score in quadrant on stock cpu speed
and if i can't use it or shouldn't what program should i use ??since cpu settings in cm settings doesn't include undervolting
(although i've been use it on CM7 rom for 3 days now and i didn't have any trouble)
thanx in advance
appreciate your help guys
Hi there,
CM7 RC0 has the CPU clock speeds & Vsel in the bootmenu where you can overclock, undervolt, change the governor etc.
If you reboot your phone & go into the bootmenu when the blue led comes on then you can access the overclock menu.
There's more info in Quarx's thread in the dev forum
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=13845272&highlight=smartass#post13845272
sp8y said:
Hi there,
CM7 RC0 has the CPU clock speeds & Vsel in the bootmenu where you can overclock, undervolt, change the governor etc.
If you reboot your phone & go into the bootmenu when the blue led comes on then you can access the overclock menu.
There's more info in Quarx's thread in the dev forum
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=13845272&highlight=smartass#post13845272
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ok but setvsel is quicker and easier...so can i use it or i shouldn't?
Evil Slayer said:
ok but setvsel is quicker and easier...so can i use it or i shouldn't?
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From what I've read in the relevant threads about CM7 many people are saying not use it.
I used it in froyo but since flashing CM7 RC0 I only use the bootmenu for CPU settings.
sp8y said:
From what I've read in the relevant threads about CM7 many people are saying not use it.
I used it in froyo but since flashing CM7 RC0 I only use the bootmenu for CPU settings.
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ok apart from the three clocks and their vsels and the up_trashhold do i need to change anything?
Evil Slayer said:
ok apart from the three clocks and their vsels and the up_trashhold do i need to change anything?
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I used the same settings that peetr_ used in the post I've linked to above. It uses the smartass governor.
It appears that there's different settings depending upon which governor is selected:
eg; for the smartass governor then in the overclock settings list the settings that start with _smt are relevant,
interactive governor _int,
ondemand governor _ond, etc.
Think that's how it works
sp8y said:
I used the same settings that peetr_ used in the post I've linked to above. It uses the smartass governor.
It appears that there's different settings depending upon which governor is selected:
eg; for the smartass governor then in the overclock settings list the settings that start with _smt are relevant,
interactive governor _int,
ondemand governor _ond, etc.
Think that's how it works
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How's Battery Life On Your Settings...And Gaming?
Evil Slayer said:
How's Battery Life On Your Settings...And Gaming?
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Not sure yet as only changed the settings last night.
Also today I have changed the screen brightness levels so will see how it goes.
Sent from my MotoDefy.
sp8y said:
Not sure yet as only changed the settings last night.
Also today I have changed the screen brightness levels so will see how it goes.
Sent from my MotoDefy.
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i just applied it too...although i don't need 1GHz
Would You Please Report Back To See If Your Result Match Mine?
Thanx alot for helping btw...i really appreciate it
Evil Slayer said:
i just applied it too...although i don't need 1GHz
Would You Please Report Back To See If Your Result Match Mine?
Thanx alot for helping btw...i really appreciate it
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No problem pleased I could help
I left the bootmenu cpu frequencies as to what they were but undervolted them slightly.
300/22, 600/34, 1000/54 - I tried many settings using setvsel when running froyo so I know these work fine for me.
As for the other settings I just used those that peetr_ posted for the smartass governor & it seems to run nicely. Haven't had any issues yet
sp8y said:
No problem pleased I could help
I left the bootmenu cpu frequencies as to what they were but undervolted them slightly.
300/22, 600/34, 1000/54 - I tried many settings using setvsel when running froyo so I know these work fine for me.
As for the other settings I just used those that peetr_ posted for the smartass governor & it seems to run nicely. Haven't had any issues yet
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btw...when i used the values in the post you gave me the phone was running without any issues but if you open setvsel and looked at the cpu it keeps changing from 300 to 1000 even if you are not doing anything but if you used the ondemand scale governor you will notice that if you are not doing anything the value stays 300mhz so im not sure that smartass is a good governor after all...or maybe its just me
anyways i think i will keep the settings like this:
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
also change the other values in menu like this(i think you must change them according to the values you gave your cpu in the 3 vsels):
smt_min:30
smt_max:80(although i suspect this one should be 100 but since the user in the thread you gave kept it 80 im keeping it 80 )
smt_awake:300000
smt_sleep_max:300000
smt_up_min:1000000
smt__wakeup:1000000
smt_ramp:300000
ond_up_threshold:75
what do you think of these values ?
and also...can you tell my your temp in normal state and in after heavy use ?i think mine stays hot
oh and btw could you provide me with a link for the youtube apk you are using i can't seem to find a one that works
Evil Slayer said:
btw...when i used the values in the post you gave me the phone was running without any issues but if you open setvsel and looked at the cpu it keeps changing from 300 to 1000 even if you are not doing anything but if you used the ondemand scale governor you will notice that if you are not doing anything the value stays 300mhz so im not sure that smartass is a good governor after all...or maybe its just me
anyways i think i will keep the settings like this:
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
also change the other values in menu like this(i think you must change them according to the values you gave your cpu in the 3 vsels):
smt_min:30
smt_max:80(although i suspect this one should be 100 but since the user in the thread you gave kept it 80 im keeping it 80 )
smt_awake:300000
smt_sleep_max:300000
smt_up_min:1000000
smt__wakeup:1000000
smt_ramp:300000
ond_up_threshold:75
what do you think of these values ?
and also...can you tell my your temp in normal state and in after heavy use ?i think mine stays hot
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My cpu sometimes jumped from 300-1000 when I used setvsel on froyo.
Temperature wise it seems to be running similar if not slightly cooler than when on froyo. Now the hottest I have seen battery temp is 35C but it is mostly much cooler than that.
Sent from my MotoDefy.
Evil Slayer said:
oh and btw could you provide me with a link for the youtube apk you are using i can't seem to find a one that works
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I just have the current market youtube app. Not sure if it was included in the gapps package?
Sent from my MotoDefy.
sp8y said:
My cpu sometimes jumped from 300-1000 when I used setvsel on froyo.
Temperature wise it seems to be running similar if not slightly cooler than when on froyo. Now the hottest I have seen battery temp is 35C but it is mostly much cooler than that.
Sent from my MotoDefy.
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hmm..mine reached 39c on very heavy use...normaly its around 30c
and about the youtube app..no it wasn't included and i downloaded the app in the market but it crashes on most videos
btw im getting 2000-2500 in quadrant...how come?i think that is too good to be true
Here's what i've come up with, using google (lets correct them, if some are wrong) :
con_up_threshold: [80] # system load in % above which increases the CPU frequency?
con_down_threshold: [20] # system load in % above which drops the CPU frequency?
con_freq_step: [5] # frequency step?
con_sampling_rate: [160000] # interval (in milliseconds) between polls of the system. In fact, the intervals between changes of CPU frequency? Times in 160 seconds?
int_min_sampling_rate: [50000] # minimal interval (in milliseconds) between polls of the system. In fact, the intervals between changes of CPU frequency? Every 50 seconds?
ond_up_threshold: [86] # CPU in % above which increases the frequency of the processor.
ond_sampling_rate: [50000] # second? interval (in milliseconds) between polls of the system. In fact, the intervals between changes of CPU frequency? Every 50 seconds?
smt_min_cpu_load: [40] # CPU usage in % in achieving a reduced frequency of the processor
smt_max_cpu_load: [85] # CPU in % above which increases the CPU frequency
smt_awake_min_freq: [30000] # The minimum frequency of waking up?
smt_sleep_max_freq: [30000] # CPU frequency during sleep?
smt_up_min_freq: [1200000] # The minimal jump. so default made the cpu jump every time to max speed
smt_wakeup_freq: [1200000] # The frequency of waking up. It is important to not lose calls.
smt_ramp_up_step: [250000] # How much to increase the frequency at one time?
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So witch is the best governor and settings for normal daily usage like some texts, calls, 3g/wifi, maybe some games ?
I'm on smartass right now with these settings
Vsel1 - 20
2 - 31
3 - 54
smt_min... - 30
smt_max... - 80
smt_awake_min... - 300000
smt_sleep_max... - 300000
smt_up_min... - 1000000
smt_wake_up_... - 1000000
smt_ramp_up_step - 400000
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SpawNyK said:
Here's what i've come up with, using google (lets correct them, if some are wrong) :
So witch is the best governor and settings for normal daily usage like some texts, calls, 3g/wifi, maybe some games ?
I'm on smartass right now with these settings
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i don't know...really..i can't seem to relate what are the values for with the available governors
my only problem with smartass governor that even if im not using the cpu the values keep changing between 300mhz-1000ghz but when im using on demand if im not doing anything with the phone the cpu stays at 300mhz but when i start using the phone(moving the screen up and down for example)the values changes to 1000ghz and when i stop the values goes back to 300mhz that's why im using on demand...but again it might be just my cpu
looks like it requires to dig more in the differences between each governor
anyway i read in the latest post in CM7 DEV thread that some people is actually using setvsel so i opened my boot menu,and went to overclock,selected set default,reboted,and installed setvsel and applied these values:
20/300
33/600
47/800
up_therhold:75
oh and btw...how's your battery life ?
Dudes, so please, quick answer:
Use SetVsel - no
use build in "overclock" settings in CM7 RC0 - yes?
Any one using CM7 RC0 bootmenu> Overclocking?
There are more values than in peters thread.
Please advise with all info/numbers according to present in overclocking bootmenu 0.8.6 values.
m_zet said:
Dudes, so please, quick answer:
Use SetVsel - no
use build in "overclock" settings in CM7 RC0 - yes?
Any one using CM7 RC0 bootmenu> Overclocking?
There are more values than in peters thread.
Please advise with all info/numbers according to present in overclocking bootmenu 0.8.6 values.
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Yes I've got CM7 RC0 & using the bootmenu overclock.
There's many values in the menu as it depends upon which governor you have set it to so only those values relevant to that governor will be used.
For instance on Smartass governor - the values starting with _smt will apply
Finally was able to flash PACman ROM again. It's really nice as long as it works. But after about 30 minutes it's get really laggy, slows down significantly. I can barely do anything. If the music is playing, it starts to get choppy.
Does anyone else has/had this issue and how to get it resolved?
Thanks.
secrapoti said:
Finally was able to flash PACman ROM again. It's really nice as long as it works. But after about 30 minutes it's get really laggy, slows down significantly. I can barely do anything. If the music is playing, it starts to get choppy.
Does anyone else has/had this issue and how to get it resolved?
Thanks.
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Are you using any battery savers? What are your cpu settings?
N_otori0us_ said:
Are you using any battery savers? What are your cpu settings?
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I am not using any battery savers. My CPU settings are whatever set by default. I haven't changed anything.
CPU settings below:
Current Max: 1024 MHz
Current Min: 245 MHz
Governer: ondemand
IO Scheduler: row
Set on boot: OFF
It also downloads the updates for "hangouts" everytime the phone restarts.
Thanks for responding to my questions. I really appreciate ti.
maybe just a rom problem. Try his Carbon, or Slimbean
secrapoti said:
I am not using any battery savers. My CPU settings are whatever set by default. I haven't changed anything.
CPU settings below:
Current Max: 1024 MHz
Current Min: 245 MHz
Governer: ondemand
IO Scheduler: row
Set on boot: OFF
It also downloads the updates for "hangouts" everytime the phone restarts.
Thanks for responding to my questions. I really appreciate ti.
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hay, ondemand is a really laggy governor. try lagfree or smartass if it's there.. change your min to 368 MHz at least. Also goto settings -> apps -> running and stop some unwanted apps.. it improves performance plus saves some battery. hope this helps..
conzzy said:
hay, ondemand is a really laggy governor. try lagfree or smartass if it's there.. change your min to 368 MHz at least. Also goto settings -> apps -> running and stop some unwanted apps.. it improves performance plus saves some battery. hope this helps..
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Thanks I will try that. Though I did a complete format of my phone and my sd card and reinstalled everything from scratch and it seems to be working much better. I will try this if it starts to get slow.
Thanks again.