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Why Nexus One Was Leapfrogged by HTC Incredible and Evo 4G

Google Exec Hints at Why Nexus One Was Leapfrogged by HTC Incredible, Evo 4G
http://googlewatch.eweek.com/content/android_vs_iphone/google_exec_hints_at_why_nexus_one_was_leapfrogged_by_htc_incredible_evo_4g.html
"Nexus One isn't a failure so much as a casualty of the success of the next wave of Android smartphones. In a few months, I'm sure we'll be saying the same things about the Incredible and the Evo 4G."
Some people may be bothered with this, but I am happy with my Nexus One. I have no buyers remorse.

I don't view my N1 as obsolete in any way at all and am quite happy with it, it's no worse than the Incredible and all aspects of the device ooze performance

phones are starting to become like computers now. as soon as you buy one a new and better one comes out tomorrow.
and what sucks about is...you're suck with a 2 year contract.

So adding two features equals "leapfrogged" now?
What a load of crap. Who has FroYo now? Yeah, that's what I thought.

I always f*cking hate these posts. I really don't want to hear doom and gloom.

Definitely don't feel any remorse.
My phone is JUST as good as the ones that are coming out NOW.
Yea, 8MP cam + dual flash, but cmon, the pictures are hardly better.
Plus the nexus LOOKS better than both of those.

mortzz said:
So adding two features equals "leapfrogged" now?
What a load of crap. Who has FroYo now? Yeah, that's what I thought.
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SERIOUSLY, people are rediculous....... I stayed with DDR400 until DDR32000 came out because it was a serious step up...... There is nothing that screams "OH MY GOD INNOVATION" about either phone..... My next phone will be when my Nexus no longer has the NAND capacity for the current Android version. I love my Nexus

i'm with mortzz on this one. we have a phone that we can do whatever we want to do to it. i'd MUCH rather have this. i'm on the fence about the evo, but until we can get real system access (yeah, i saw the root article, but i'll believe it when i see it), custom ROM's, etc, i'll stick with the N1. which, btw, is STILL the sexiest phone i've ever seen. girl i'm seeing has the incredible, and...no thanks. not in comparison. it's a nice phone, if you have to have verizon. but, i don't
i do however have to get a sprint device. so...i may have to break contract with tmo and get the evo. otherwise, my school is going to stick me with the freaking touch pro 2 as my pager. lord what a step back that will be. but, at least if i take that, i can keep my N1

Uh. What?
Incredible and Evo won't get FroYo until the end of this year.
How about we come back to this article then so we can point and laugh?

Having root >>>> anything else.
Have any high-end phones since the Nexus achieved full root? I mean cracked bootloader and all. Desire, Legend, new Droids - none have the kind of access we do. Heck, we may have the best fully root-able hardware HTC will ever release.

I dont think the Incredible is any better than the N1, i've played witht he incredible and it feels cheap plastic like and the camera sucks as well. I like the feel of the N1 and like the looks of it. The Evo is a whole different story...

timothydonohue said:
i'm with mortzz on this one. we have a phone that we can do whatever we want to do to it. i'd MUCH rather have this. i'm on the fence about the evo, but until we can get real system access (yeah, i saw the root article, but i'll believe it when i see it), custom ROM's, etc, i'll stick with the N1. which, btw, is STILL the sexiest phone i've ever seen. girl i'm seeing has the incredible, and...no thanks. not in comparison. it's a nice phone, if you have to have verizon. but, i don't
i do however have to get a sprint device. so...i may have to break contract with tmo and get the evo. otherwise, my school is going to stick me with the freaking touch pro 2 as my pager. lord what a step back that will be. but, at least if i take that, i can keep my N1
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They have "root" meaning they have su permissions. AFAIK they don't have write permissions to the partitions, so it's pretty worthless.

Only thing i regret about my Nexus One is that apparently the Desire and Incredible both have touchscreens that fixed the multitouch issues.
Other than that the idea of having basically a google developement phone surpasses any of the other current phones, maybe when we see a decent hardware upgrade, then it will be a different story, but hopefully Google continues to make new Nexus phones.

FISKER_Q said:
Only thing i regret about my Nexus One is that apparently the Desire and Incredible both have touchscreens that fixed the multitouch issues.
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The Desire has the same issues: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVlsRCMltDg

Paul22000 said:
The Desire has the same issues: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVlsRCMltDg
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That is sad. So they have the same MT issue as us, a much smaller dev front, usb-bricking issues while flashing roms, no full solution for being rooted/unlocked...took htc ages to release the kernel...they won't see froyo for ages (officially).
Not much to be ... wait for it... desired

Paul22000 said:
The Desire has the same issues: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVlsRCMltDg
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How many points does a Galaxy register again? I'm guessing more than 2

In the UK, the N1/Desire is still the King. Desire = UK incredible, but is LITERALLY an N1, and I doubt we will ever see the Evo here [not even a whisp of 4g network].
Even if they did, all the incredible has is the less buggy touch matrix, although this has been nicely 'fixed' in froyo. The evo is a different breed of phone, id never buy it purely based on the fact that i like thinks to fit in my pocket xD
Until I see a snapgradon 1.3+, 1GB RAM, a TRUE 8mp+ cam, froyo, new gen OLED/better, my N1 can sleep with my girl any day.

that makes two of us i love man I LOVE MY NEXUS ONE

the video is @ livestream.com/disrupt/video?clipId=pla_cfa02640-01dd-4ac5-bba9-a2a2b0feee24

haha my friend was a tad jealous of me. he has the Hero and i like his sense ui. but the minute froyo came out, i installed it. i showed him how i can play hulu, i showed him that i got live wallpapers (of course he doesn't have 2.1) and the rest of the froyo goodness. and outta jealousy, he was like "oh well im gonna get a phone thats better than that. im give to get the Evo 4G that has everything the nexus one has and more, including Android 2.2" and i was like "riiiiight. just like the hero was supposed to (officially) get 2.1 right?" and he stood quiet lol idk about all of you guys but i don't really care for 2 led lights. im good with just one. as for 4G, i like to have the freedom to switch between my N1, my BB Curve 8310, and my iPhone 3GS with the simple swap of a SIM card so im great with my Sexy Nexy

Evo vs. Hero (Side by Side) Video

This is here for a comparision of the HTC Evo and HTC Hero. This is not my video, but found it on youtube and put it here for everyone to see it.

Hahaha... that was ridiculous. Man am I glad I kept my Hero now.

doojer said:
Hahaha... that was ridiculous. Man am I glad I kept my Hero now.
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How was that ridiculous? He showed exactly what people want when they buy the Evo: larger screen, faster proc, etc. I don't see your point. I mean, I'm glad you're happy with your Hero. It's a great phone. I personally love mine. I'm getting an Evo, though, and will be giving my Hero to my girlfriend. It's much better than her Palm Pre... just as the Evo is much better than the Hero.
Unless, of course, I'm not understanding you. Help me out here.

doojer said:
Hahaha... that was ridiculous. Man am I glad I kept my Hero now.
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i dont understand your point neither, the hero just got pissed on and youre glad you kept it lmfao....funny guy. Death to hero

dirkydirk23 said:
Death to hero
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Oh, I wouldn't go that far. I still love my Hero. I'm just a gadget freak and want the next best thing.

I don't like the EVO because is to BIG...
And it will become BIGGER with a Cover...

http://bit.ly/duh6Xt
Sprint says EVO gets 2.2 in "Near Future"

It's too big? Do you have dwarf hands? Little sausage fingers? Or does it not fit in the pocket of your Garanimals? Seriously, though... I have small hands and it's not too big for me to use. That screen is gorgeous.

subcypher said:
It's too big? Do you have dwarf hands? Little sausage fingers? Or does it not fit in the pocket of your Garanimals? Seriously, though... I have small hands and it's not too big for me to use. That screen is gorgeous.
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That screen is gorgeous but... Do you work in a Store, In the receiving area, Unloading wagons? LOL

Death to hero
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Oh, I wouldn't go that far. I still love my Hero. I'm just a gadget freak and want the next best thing.
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i would go that far the hero was already outdated and old technology the day it launched lol. its a cool phone for time being but definitely in the same catagory with mytouch and g1. check out the specs, sprint just needed an android phone cause they didnt have any. i mean cmon dude the moment has a faster processor lol it will do for now but i wouldnt go as far to say i "love it" its ok and it was the best thing on sprint at the time. that is all
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keeping hero not ridiculous
I kinda agree with the second post. The evo is a great phone, although I think the video shows basic android users that the hero and the evo have pretty much the same thing. NOW WHILE MOST PEOPLE HERE KNOW THATS DIFFERENT, the idea is that both phones run the stunning htc sense, have the most of the same built in apks, and on the video the hero doesn't move that much slower than the evo.
Advantage to the evo for basic users:
-4G
-better camera
-moves faster and snappier
-images look better because of a higher resolution
-swype keyboard: although anyone will be able to get this eventually
-FRONT FACING CAMERA
-BIG OL BAD SCREEN
-more storage space for apps
Disadvantages:
-4G not really existant for users outside of big cities-and most of the big cities wont get 4G till later this year.
-CAMERA has more megapixels but takes not so great pics according to reviews
-new phone= bugs, some still being worked on
-swype can be brought to any phone, and probably will soon
-some people think the screen is TOO BIG.
so for me the basic advantages are matched by the disadvantages. So I'm fine sticking with my hero. The evo is better, yes. the front camera-cool. But i don't like the size and I don't get 4G, so I'm better off waiting off a while, as hard as that can be for people who love shiny new phones with awesome specs.
i'm good with my hero for now

rockypr said:
That screen is gorgeous but... Do you work in a Store, In the receiving area, Unloading wagons? LOL
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No, but if I wanted to serve cheese off that platter, I could! Hoers d'oeuvres, anyone?

I went by Radio Shack the other day and I didn't like the way it fit in my hand. But then again I felt the same way with my Hero because I had come from a phone that was probably 2" wide or something. After seeing the video I wouldn't mind getting one, but I'm sure they will release a better one hopefully with Android 3.0 and a dual core processor, so I will wait until then and see where I am financially. Also paying $10 extra for 4G is crazy. They should give us the option of upgrading to 4G if we live in a city were it is offered.

I don't disagree with you on any particular point. The $10 increase is BS unless they tell me they're getting 4G in my area and that fee is to cover installation. And there's always going to be a better phone. It's a fact.
...and I'll probably get that one too. >.>

LOL at you, yea you. I do that comparison everyday w my wifes hero, and the performance difference its so big its not even funny, and hers is OC. No comparison. And you would love the screen size if you ever typed in an Evo, specially coming from a Hero.
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I'd like to see a video of the Evo vs. the Hero running Darch 2.7 (and eventually Froyo). No version of Sense on the Hero is as fast as Darch's AOSP. Yes, the Evo would still win but the Hero would certainly hold it own.

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I'd like to see a video of the Evo vs. the Hero running Darch 2.7 (and eventually Froyo). No version of Sense on the Hero is as fast as Darch's AOSP. Yes, the Evo would still win but the Hero would certainly hold it own.
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doesnt matter, the hero is like a tricked out honda, no matter what parts or software you program it with its stll gonna be a honda. The evo is more like a benz, it comes factory with everything you need and imagine and will be even better with aftermarket parts, i dont know why u guys think it even stand a chance, once aosp is on the evo its over for any phone with android you throw at it. the hero was dead the day it launched with its weak ass processor and unimpressive hardware specs. the chip it has in it is the same one used in the weak g1 and weak mytouch. in one month i will have my evo and im more than happy to sell this hero piece of **** on here of ebay for 40 bucks lol. its in perfect condition as i have never taken off my full body zagg invisishield. death to hero until we all get evos

dirkydirk23 said:
doesnt matter, the hero is like a tricked out honda, no matter what parts or software you program it with its stll gonna be a honda. The evo is more like a benz, it comes factory with everything you need and imagine and will be even better with aftermarket parts, i dont know why u guys think it even stand a chance, once aosp is on the evo its over for any phone with android you throw at it. the hero was dead the day it launched with its weak ass processor and unimpressive hardware specs. the chip it has in it is the same one used in the weak g1 and weak mytouch. in one month i will have my evo and im more than happy to sell this hero piece of **** on here of ebay for 40 bucks lol. its in perfect condition as i have never taken off my full body zagg invisishield. death to hero until we all get evos
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Hard to disagree with any of your points. A tricked out Honda S2000 is pretty badass though
Also, seeing as I live outside of a 4G zone, giving Sprint $120/yr more for the privilege of owning an Evo just doesn't sit right. Enjoy your new toy though, it is a work of art.

ItsDon said:
Hard to disagree with any of your points. A tricked out Honda S2000 is pretty badass though
Also, seeing as I live outside of a 4G zone, giving Sprint $120/yr more for the privilege of owning an Evo just doesn't sit right. Enjoy your new toy though, it is a work of art.
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youre right a tricked out s2000 would be pretty legit lol. and yeah i cant wait to get my evo, but i kinda want the galaxy s too, its hard to choose. idk i live in houston 4g was here before evo even launched but i could careless as 3g is pretty fast to and im always on wifi.

dirkydirk23 said:
doesnt matter, the hero is like a tricked out honda, no matter what parts or software you program it with its stll gonna be a honda. The evo is more like a benz, it comes factory with everything you need and imagine and will be even better with aftermarket parts, i dont know why u guys think it even stand a chance, once aosp is on the evo its over for any phone with android you throw at it. the hero was dead the day it launched with its weak ass processor and unimpressive hardware specs. the chip it has in it is the same one used in the weak g1 and weak mytouch. in one month i will have my evo and im more than happy to sell this hero piece of **** on here of ebay for 40 bucks lol. its in perfect condition as i have never taken off my full body zagg invisishield. death to hero until we all get evos
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You speak so negative of the Hero, yet you bought it. If it was/is a piece of crap, why did you buy it?

Nexus one envy

So I just played with an N1 for the very first time and must say I wish this phone had come to Sprint as planned a few months back.
While I love my Evo there's just something about the N1 I like more. The trackball for notifications is wicked and the size is just right. I love the size of the screen on Evo but after all this time I still can't get comfortable using it as a phone.
Anyone else wish the Nexus were available as a cdma?
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Ehh... anything less than 4.3 is small to me now and I love my forward camera
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fchipm said:
So I just played with an N1 for the very first time and must say I wish this phone had come to Sprint as planned a few months back.
While I love my Evo there's just something about the N1 I like more. The trackball for notifications is wicked and the size is just right. I love the size of the screen on Evo but after all this time I still can't get comfortable using it as a phone.
Anyone else wish the Nexus were available as a cdma?
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Nexus/Evo same phone pretty much. The nexus has a amoled display and stock Android 2.2. Other than that the Evo is the same thing as the nexus pretty much just with a few upgrades and extras when it comes to hardware, so in actuality, you sort of already have a nexus one sort of on steroids
Sent from my DAMN Evo!!

Wait until the N2 comes out then you'll really have phone envy. That thing is prime to be a benchmark just as the N1 was

I had the nexus 1 and gave it to my girlfriend when the evo came out. I am a sense lover so i liked the evo a lot when it came out. Stable Sense wasnt ported to the n1 at that time. Now though whenever i hold my girls n1 i am envious. It feels perfect in the hand. Yes i like the trackball too. great for typos in the middle of a sentence. all the different trackball notifications are great too. A differnt color for every scenario. i loved the N1 docks (home and car) too. The only thing i disliked about the n1 was the screen. While it looked great indoors, outside you couldnt see anything, I mean nothing at all. It was like the screen was turned off. the N1 has some crazy talented devs too. Cant wait till next week. Hopefully the Nexus 2 rumor isnt a rumor and it'll be available with gingerbread next week.

Yeah I felt the N1 its nice in hand but once you go 4.3 you cant go back.

I would give up my Evo for a Nexus One any day... I love that phone!!! =)
Still wish I could have one, but they are really hard to find and quite expensive! Even after all this time!

ImmortalLuD said:
I would give up my Evo for a Nexus One any day... I love that phone!!! =)
Still wish I could have one, but they are really hard to find and quite expensive! Even after all this time!
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you cant still get them new?

nugzo said:
I had the nexus 1 and gave it to my girlfriend when the evo came out. I am a sense lover so i liked the evo a lot when it came out. Stable Sense wasnt ported to the n1 at that time. Now though whenever i hold my girls n1 i am envious. It feels perfect in the hand. Yes i like the trackball too. great for typos in the middle of a sentence. all the different trackball notifications are great too. A differnt color for every scenario. i loved the N1 docks (home and car) too. The only thing i disliked about the n1 was the screen. While it looked great indoors, outside you couldnt see anything, I mean nothing at all. It was like the screen was turned off. the N1 has some crazy talented devs too. Cant wait till next week. Hopefully the Nexus 2 rumor isnt a rumor and it'll be available with gingerbread next week.
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The nexus 2 isn't coming out next week >< I read where it was just delayed due to hardware issues.
Besides, it's made by samsung...so IMO either get a nexus 1 or stick with the evo.
The Nexus2 or Nexus S so its called... will likely not hold a candle to either. All the hype from Samsung about the galaxy S phones and none of them are all the good.... in fact I think they are just now getting froyo.. imagine how long it will take for them to get gingerbread... if they ever do!
Sorry for the rant, but IMO there will never be another phone as good as the nexus1

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Hell no! These things have been harder to get than the Evo! =) Their prices on eBay are just INSANE. (At least for a new one... I want to smell that bad boy brand new!)

Rippley05 said:
The nexus 2 isn't coming out next week >< I read where it was just delayed due to hardware issues.
Besides, it's made by samsung...so IMO either get a nexus 1 or stick with the evo.
The Nexus2 or Nexus S so its called... will likely not hold a candle to either. All the hype from Samsung about the galaxy S phones and none of them are all the good.... in fact I think they are just now getting froyo.. imagine how long it will take for them to get gingerbread... if they ever do!
Sorry for the rant, but IMO there will never be another phone as good as the nexus1
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I'm with ya. I'm fairly anti-samsung when it comes to Android phones. They just feel cheap and have always had very limited support by the development community and Samsung themselves. Not very experienced with moto androids but HTC builds a pretty reliable Android phone.
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dglowe343 said:
I'm with ya. I'm fairly anti-samsung when it comes to Android phones. They just feel cheap and have always had very limited support by the development community and Samsung themselves. Not very experienced with moto androids but HTC builds a pretty reliable Android phone.
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+1 I love HTC phones, I will say that sometimes their build quality feels rushed.. but they pump out a lot of phones. My hero and evo have had great DEV support and HTC does a pretty decent job with updates.
Samsung, IMO, is the worst when it comes to quality, dev support and updates... it's just not a good idea to have samsung make a 2nd generation nexus IMO... so so sad

i cant say i like the galaxy series, the epic feels cheap and somewhat clunky to me, htc phones have their problems as well but i'd take htc over sammy any day, it seems crazy that just a few years ago htc was selling great phones left and right and still reporting quarterly losses, now they seem to be doing better then ever and it looks like they are really starting to step it up when it comes to developing sense, hopefully they will only pick up more steam

I had the nexus one the day it came out..payed the 529 plus tax n was loving it..it was a very snappy phone running cyanogen 5..update were awesome..trackball notificatons were cool..but basically the evo is the big brother of the nexus one..evo is the ROOT of HTC
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I tried out the nexus one for 30 days on at&t early this year when I was still an iphone user and must say the N1 is the DAMN SEXIEST PHONE EVER MADE! I ended up sending mine back because I couldn't justify spending $500+ on a phone. Even though I still miss the hell out of that phone I'm not sure I could get up my evo's bigger screen and 4G data.
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The botched touch screen was a serious deal breaker for me with the Nexus. I had one for a while, and I liked it, but I can't go less than 4.3 now. I just can't.

The only thing I love about the N1 is the fact that it gets lightning fast updates.

Engadget just posted an article starting the nexus one will be getting gingerbread in the next few days! That is one thing to admire about it

What about the kickstand! If the nexus had a kickstand and front facing camera .... oh boy I would be tempted to get it. (Again) had the nexus before got bored of vanilla. Just flash cyanogen 6.1 on the evo. There you go you have a nexus minus the trackball. I mean if I had a nexus that's the rom I would run. Might as well. Same same.

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What about the kickstand! If the nexus had a kickstand and front facing camera ....
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Ugh, what a useless feature for me. Just something else to wipe off and worry about not being scratched. I would much rather have a trackball!

I ditched the epic.

This is not a bash thread. I owned the epic for roughly 4 months. It is a very good phone. Reason I dropped it was due to it felt cheap. The phone was pretty loose concerning the slider. Also I never used the keyboard. The amoled screen is nice but I needed a bigger screen. So I switched to the evo. And from what I can tell during normal everyday use is that its just as fast. I don't game and I know the epic is better for gaming. I still think the epic is a damn good phone. Just sharing my experience. Also even with gps turned on so far the battery life on the evo is a little bit better. It does not get hot during web browsing like the epic did.
Im still here though. Been here since the epic launched and still glad to try to help other if they need it.
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My only complaint with Samsung is the software. They make awesome hardware, though. I think they do it on purpose because if they matched a software engineer to eke out everything from the hardware, you wouldn't really care about buying a new phone so much.

Even though Samsung sucks at supporting their Products, it'll be hard to go to any inferior screen.
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sultan.of.swing said:
This is not a bash thread. I owned the epic for roughly 4 months. It is a very good phone. Reason I dropped it was due to it felt cheap. The phone was pretty loose concerning the slider. Also I never used the keyboard. The amoled screen is nice but I needed a bigger screen. So I switched to the evo. And from what I can tell during normal everyday use is that its just as fast. I don't game and I know the epic is better for gaming. I still think the epic is a damn good phone. Just sharing my experience. Also even with gps turned on so far the battery life on the evo is a little bit better. It does not get hot during web browsing like the epic did.
Im still here though. Been here since the epic launched and still glad to try to help other if they need it.
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Not sure how you can get better battery life on a stock EVO. The hardware in the Epic is simply more power efficient than the EVO, it's a fact.
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Love the epic...agree the slider mech sux....

Ive never seen a problem with the sliding mech. Matter a fact I also have a moment and the intercept and those mechs are fine as well. I don't see how they're bad.
Anyway At this point jumping to the Evo isn't a bad idea at all if you want to. All of this "Epic is just a better machine" means squat when it's not even updated with an official Froyo yet. It's like having the most advanced yatch in a desert.
I for one love my epic but the second something esle comes along. I think i'll be leaving myself. Unless the device that comes along is also made by samsung. Then no thanks.

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Not sure how you can get better battery life on a stock EVO. The hardware in the Epic is simply more power efficient than the EVO, it's a fact.
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Well stock 2.2 battery life so far is great. Stock for stock there pretty close honestly. The epics display eats a ton of battery.
Also another thing I am noticing. On the epic I used roam control due to no sprint signal at work. If I left it on automatic the epic would lose signal, the radio would then reset itself 2 times before it would go to roam. So I used roam control to just roam only. On the evo it seemlessly switches between home and roam without completely losing the radio.
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No it doesn't. Its actually much more efficient than the Evo's.

imwillzillla said:
I for one love my epic but the second something esle comes along. I think i'll be leaving myself. Unless the device that comes along is also made by samsung. Then no thanks.
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Agreed. The Tegra 2 LG Optimus looks pretty appealing, if it gets the advertised battery life. Wonder if it'll come out for Sprint.
That said, I do play some Super Mario now & then on the Epic. The keyboard + Game Gripper is nice for that. I can't do the screen controls, too slow.
I love the Epic to death, but Samsung support sucks.

To the person mentioning switching ... HTC shift.
I know a few buddies who went from the epic to the Evo. Both good devices. Sprint kind of limited.
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Evos a great phone. I had both the epic and the evo, switched back and forth for awhile before deciding in the Epic. The epic IMO is quicker, but the development on the Evo may have changed that by now, idk. I will say that my evo always had better battery life than my epic. Same apps and same usage, both with the Evo on 2.1 and 2.2. Battery isnt a big deal to me personally tho since I always keep a spare battery. Enjoy your Evo. I personally miss the development compared to the epic, but im hopeful that that will changer soon. If you end up not liking it, sell it. I sold mine for twice what I paid. My wife just sold her second evo for $550 cash off craigslist.
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I've had a person on Craigslist practically begging me to switch his 1 month old Evo, for my epic. I have been really torn between what to do. I really like this phone, and it is only gonna get better when 2.2 offically releases and the source code drops. I think I would regret it if I traded and it turned out the epic is being pushed beyond what any other phone has done before performance wise with the release of the source. T-mobile just got their release for 2.2 today, so hopefully we are not far behind (ya I know, we are on CDMA).

Whoa.... Vibrant got an official update? I didn't see anything on those forums...
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heathmcabee said:
I've had a person on Craigslist practically begging me to switch his 1 month old Evo, for my epic. I have been really torn between what to do. I really like this phone, and it is only gonna get better when 2.2 offically releases and the source code drops. I think I would regret it if I traded and it turned out the epic is being pushed beyond what any other phone has done before performance wise with the release of the source. T-mobile just got their release for 2.2 today, so hopefully we are not far behind (ya I know, we are on CDMA).
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I haven't seen anything about the Vibrant getting official Froyo today...Do you have a link

The epic is my first samsung. I always have HTC from the ppc 6700 to the evo. I switched from the evo. Even tho I do agree the epic feel's cheap, but it does have better hardware than the evo.
Deal breaker for me was the camera, I was Surprised how crappy the evo was to take pic's, but at least the epic sux's less, it's actually pretty good.
Development is slower, but it's still gets plenty of love. I for one don't plan on flashing every other day.

heathmcabee said:
I've had a person on Craigslist practically begging me to switch his 1 month old Evo, for my epic. I have been really torn between what to do. I really like this phone, and it is only gonna get better when 2.2 offically releases and the source code drops. I think I would regret it if I traded and it turned out the epic is being pushed beyond what any other phone has done before performance wise with the release of the source. T-mobile just got their release for 2.2 today, so hopefully we are not far behind (ya I know, we are on CDMA).
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If its the release that I think your speaking of. It was for T-Mobile (UK) not T-Mobile (USA). I thought the same thing once I read about it, but read more and its for the UK.
I have both the Epic and the EVO. I love both phones, but I like the EVO a bit better. I'm sure my reasoning is totally different from others (as expected). I would love to compare the two with 2.2, but for obvious reason I cannot. I'm VERY tempted on rooting my Epic finally. Battery life (for me, as I cant speak for others) have been great on both. But again, everyone has their different uses on their phones.

Well imop, I wouldn't of down graded... When they come out with a better phone damn near every 6 months. I would've stuck with the Epic till something better came out ( like the dual processor ) thats coming... But if you got-it like that just to buy 500 dollar phones because it feel cheesy ( And I agree ) then you made the right decison...

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Well imop, I wouldn't of down graded... When they come out with a better phone damn near every 6 months. I would've stuck with the Epic till something better came out ( like the dual processor ) thats coming... But if you got-it like that just to buy 500 dollar phones because it feel cheesy ( And I agree ) then you made the right decison...
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But in reality 500 bucks for a phone like Epic isn't bad at all. Us American just got used to super subsidized phones...
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In my opinion, I think the Epic is a great phone, the only complaint I would make is the battery life. Then again I use my phone constantly and run many tasks at the same time, but I'm sure emulators don't help either lol. As for the slider, that made all the difference when debating on buying an epic or evo. Even if it is a little loose the qwerty is almost perfectly spaced and is probably the best one i have used on any phone (and I have gone through a lot). As for the software we all knew that Samsung sucked at providing it, but thanks to hard working people there are plenty of ways to get the newest android versions through ROMs which don't take too much work to use.
Personally I don't plan on changing my epic until it can no longer support newer android versions, but that's just me

Here is the link, 1 of out of 2 I saw today for T mobile customers getting Froyo for their Galaxy S phones.
http://www.onlinesocialmedia.net/20101201/froyo-comes-to-t-mobiles-samsung-galaxy-s-users/

Dinc1/thunderbolt

Love reading all the arguments that go on here over these great phones. I have an origional first day release dinc and a thunderbolt. Dinc is still a great phone. Well worth it for a 2 yr contract even now. The thunderbolt is a larger screen super charged dinc with a 4G extra. Both are fast on 3G and wifi. I have not been disappointed with either phone. Thunderbolt has had a few more bugs, but still hasnt swayed me from an Htc phone. If you guys need something to really argue about get a Blackberry and wait on the os updates for those, lmao! Any one looking at these phones or the dinc 2, dont let these heavys scare you away. These phones are worth it. All phones now a days become ( old news) in 6 months or less but it doesnt make the old news phones less awsome to have and use. Just an opinion.
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zeeza57 said:
Love reading all the arguments that go on here over these great phones. I have an origional first day release dinc and a thunderbolt. Dinc is still a great phone. Well worth it for a 2 yr contract even now. The thunderbolt is a larger screen super charged dinc with a 4G extra. Both are fast on 3G and wifi. I have not been disappointed with either phone. Thunderbolt has had a few more bugs, but still hasnt swayed me from an Htc phone. If you guys need something to really argue about get a Blackberry and wait on the os updates for those, lmao! Any one looking at these phones or the dinc 2, dont let these heavys scare you away. These phones are worth it. All phones now a days become ( old news) in 6 months or less but it doesnt make the old news phones less awsome to have and use. Just an opinion.
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That sounds like balance and rationality.

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If you think about it they're really not even that big.
A tech website might have a review on YouTube or something saying that a phone is bulky, but you gotta factor in that they review phones all year long. It's their job... of COURSE they're gonna come across some smaller, thinner ones. Not to mention that the fat-ass otterbox cases people throw on their phones are bound to make it as fat as a Tricorder anyway.
They have all these macro shots of phones next to each other, making it look like one is WAY bigger than the other when it's really like a millimeter. Sheeze
HTC is where it's at. The factor that's gonna make me decide is more on the screen though, if HTC won't throw an AMOLED in their phones again then it's a safe bet I'm gonna migrate over to a Nokia with WP7 if Verizon has any on hand at the time. I'm a Graphic Designer so I'm really really REALLY nitpicky about my screens and their contrasts... I figure that the one thing I do with the phone the most is look at it, so I want the best thing to look at. The Inc's non-existent blacks have me hooked, and TouchWiz on the Samsungs... yeah I'll take Metro over that any day lol

I doubt Samsung is going to be parting with many of their SAMOLEDs, they need them for their own devices. I'd be surprised to see them on HTC again, although that would be sweet.
I don't know why touchwiz is such a huge deal to people, if you don't like it, throw ADW or launcherpro on there. Or a custom rom, being that Samsung doesn't lock their phones down, and from what I gather, are pretty easily rooted.

On a second thought, I'm gonna argue with the OP on the idea that all phones become old news in 6 months. And I think we're ALL gonna agree I'm right! Blackberrys become old news when the guy installs the battery and hands it to you.