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Probably going to buy a HD2 within a few months, and I am wondering whether there is any information available about the support for the hardware compass in any navigation software like iGO8, iGO Amigo, Google Maps (which are my personal favorites).
Google Maps Update:
The new 3.3.1 update for Google Maps (permanent link to most recent Google Maps, at the time of writing 3.3.1) adds hardware compass support for the HD2! When in the 'my location' mode, it will show you the direction you are facing by means of the blue my location dot changing into a blue arrow. You may have to walk and turn around a little bit to somewhat trigger the use of the compass. Note that this doesn't work when 'my location' is off (which makes sense). What makes less sense is that it won't work in combination with GPS either. With GPS, the arrow will still be there but will always face north. Maybe a bug?
I didn't find a way to let Google Maps rotate the map on the screen, depending on the direction you are facing.
I've double checked, and this feature is not available in the stock 3.2.1 (#16) Google Maps on the HD2.
Google Maps Update (13 Dec 2009):
This can work when using GPS as well. In Google Maps, apparently it works when you set your GPS settings to manual.
For example, set your baud rate to 57600 (Options -> GPS Settings -> Set Manually: COM4, Baud 57600).
Get compass navigation support in your GPS navigation software! (28 Dec 2009):
Have been working with Mach2003 to enable support for the compass in potentially *all* GPS navigation software!
Get GpsModDriver 1.50beta: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5233994&postcount=583
barty22 said:
Probably going to buy a HD2 within a few months, and I am wondering whether there is any information available about the support for the hardware compass in any navigation software like iGO8, iGO Amigo, Google Maps (which are my personal favorites).
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Not unless HTC releases SDK for HD2
There are three possibilities:
1. Yes, some apps such as those listed will (perhaps not immediately, but eventually) be able to access the compass.
2. Yes, but the compass is mainly there for WM7 compatibility so until a WM7 upgrade comes, most apps won't be able to access the compass.
3. No, the compass is there just for the HTC Compass app, which would be really pointless and stupid.
hmota78 said:
Not unless HTC releases SDK for HD2
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This is something I really don't understand about windows mobile devices.
The OEM's make such powerful phones with excellent hardware but they don't release the SDK to that developers can use these hardware feature and create good apps for the devices.
What's the point then?
I know Samsung recently starting releasing SDK's for their devices, I think HTC should follow if they want to keep people buying their devices.
i think that the compass will be used by some programs like igo and yes, google map, but not much more.
we will see in 2 weeks
As far as I know HTC hasn't released SDKs for their current sensors but it doesn't prevent programs from using them they were reverse engineered very quickly.
Dark Fire said:
There are three possibilities:
1. Yes, some apps such as those listed will (perhaps not immediately, but eventually) be able to access the compass.
2. Yes, but the compass is mainly there for WM7 compatibility so until a WM7 upgrade comes, most apps won't be able to access the compass.
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Hm, don't know which one I'd prefer =)
I don't think they'd just put a simple compass app on the device and NOT release a SDK just to get people excited for WM7. So I'm pretty sure the compass will be used in some way, either on preinstalled apps or via SDK.
kersh said:
i think that the compass will be used by some programs like igo and yes, google map, but not much more.
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I, for one being a Muslim, would want an application telling directions to Mecca for prayer purposes... This "would" be definitely a big plus for Muslim HD2 adopters. I know some people have similar app on iPhone, but it takes direction from internet and as a result is highly inaccurate ...
now thatleo's arrived, anyone know of a rotatey map program?
Wooohoo, some new development.
An API has been developed by MilaCzeque. Check here!!
Next step is for some developer to somehow let Google Maps and our favourite navigation software use the API.
Updated first post with information about compass support in Google Maps
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Updated first post with information about compass support in Google Maps
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Really good news.. Thanks barty22
Trying now..
can't get the arrow to respond to phone turns when standing still, which I would expect. But the location is incredibly more precise in the new version 3.3.1
czbird said:
can't get the arrow to respond to phone turns when standing still, which I would expect. But the location is incredibly more precise in the new version 3.3.1
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On my device the arrow even rotates when I am sitting down and just rotating my phone!
Sorry, guys, but it's just the GPS tracking the direction it thinks you're moving.... No Compass-support in Google Maps I'm afraid.
Compass-support would be for instance rotating the map according to the direction the compass is pointing...
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Sorry, guys, but it's just the GPS tracking the direction it thinks you're moving.... No Compass-support in Google Maps I'm afraid.
Compass-support would be for instance rotating the map according to the direction the compass is pointing...
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You're wrong. It (only) works when GPS is disabled. And it does rotate according to the direction you are facing. It just doesn't rotate the map, but the arrow. It works when you rotate the phone (or when you rotate yourself while you're holding the phone ) when sitting down/standing still/not using gps...
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You're wrong. It (only) works when GPS is disabled. And it does rotate according to the direction you are facing. It just doesn't rotate the map, but the arrow. It works when you rotate the phone (or when you rotate yourself while you're holding the phone ) when sitting down/standing still/not using gps...
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On my Touch Pro2 I get this arrow on Google Maps version 3.2.1, and that phone doesn't even have a compass so I think it's safe to say that the arrow is not compass-based. The fact that it doesn't work unless you're moving is also a dead give-away.
Only works with GPS over here, and doesnt rotate, doesnt look like it supports the compass yet.
I can't get it to work for me. Do I have to enable it somehow, or should it "just work" ?
It worked indoor for me, without GPS, and very accurately.
I disabled GPS, hit the blue dot in the corner and waited for
a minute before it started.
Hello guys, yesterday i used the maps and it said i need to turn my 3g on i usually have it off. And when i press navigate it said i need to enable gps and i did. So my question is doesnt gps run without 3g or internet on other phones? And also i wana know does it use data?
because google maps requires an internet connection...
I all depends on which application you use for navigation.
Short answer:
Check with the software instrucions / help files to see how it behaves and works.
Long answer:
Some map software's have all the map data you need for your region already packed with it.
Advantage: No data need to be downloaded within the region, fast, works offline.
Disadvantage: Tricky to update the maps and often charge you for additional regions. Takes up space on the device.
Other apps download maps on the go as you navigate.
Advantage: Always the latest maps as you navigate. Takes less space on the device. Disadvantage: slow or even non-functional with poor or no data connection.
Google maps and Google navigation are of the latter one. They downloads maps as you navigate. therefor it is a good idea to have a data-plan with your provider so no additional expenses comes to.
They are free to use, so if you already have a data-plan with your provider, it's practically free.
On the X10, there are one application included by Sony Ericsson on most X10 sold out there: Wisepilot.
Wisepilot are the kind where you buy maps and download them into your phone, once this is done, it will use little or none of your data-connection.
I'm not sure, but I think Wisepilot are the kind that can be used offline once maps are bought and downloaded.
It can use the data-connection to download additional information such as "speed limit cameras", "spots of interest" and so on.
Try Mapdroid
This app downloads the MAP files when internet is available and can be used offline also with GPS activated..... try this, this is da best app
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hey, when you use google navigation, will you be able to use the voice guidance??? I am having troubles to use the voice guidance...not sure how to activate it....
Having to buy the maps and such for wisepilot.. I wish there was a better solution for GPS on the x10. I wouldn't mind using it, but not necessary.
You can use GPS without 3G. I can even get a lock with my phone in airport mode and inside a cement building. When I say cement I mean cement, the floor, walls, and ceiling are all cement (hurricane proof). It is the third (top) floor however.
GPS software on x10
Currently I installed Navigon, Ndrive, MotoNave and Copilot 8 on my x10i with various world maps and all fully functional without 3g or network connection, direct data from satellite in orbit with the phone inbuild GPS receiver. Why you may ask? Because I can. How you may ask? The answers is out there! I am giving you the knowledge , now go and find your answers.
X10 is an Awsome device.
Another solution is to use the Brut Google Maps mod. It allows you to view previously viewed maps from the SD card. It saves the Google maps cache to your SD, but the only downside is that you have to view all of the places you want to travel on at all zoom levels.
If anyone needs it, I have the majority of Menorca done at all zoom levels......
I tend to use google navigation, the best bit of this is when you have your route downloaded and the voice guidance starts, you can then switch off your 3g and it still routes you. Obviously if you take a wrong turn it won't be able to download a new route until you switch 3g back on, but hey
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Wow really.. so I can use my phone's gps rather than my car's and I DON"T need 3g?? that's sweet..
Only too bad I don't know how to install any other GPS on my phone... I'm such a noob. Back to my magellans GPS .. ool
Anyone willing to go through the process with me ? haha
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I tend to use google navigation, the best bit of this is when you have your route downloaded and the voice guidance starts, you can then switch off your 3g and it still routes you. Obviously if you take a wrong turn it won't be able to download a new route until you switch 3g back on, but hey
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do you mind to share how you activate the voice guidance??? I am having troubles activating this in my google navigation....
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Wow really.. so I can use my phone's gps rather than my car's and I DON"T need 3g?? that's sweet..
Only too bad I don't know how to install any other GPS on my phone... I'm such a noob. Back to my magellans GPS .. ool
Anyone willing to go through the process with me ? haha
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Use Google, i have Sygic with France, Spain, Andorra and Portugal maps up to date, included shops, hotels, restaurants, radars...
I repeat, use google and you will find out
oXunknownXo said:
Use Google, i have Sygic with France, Spain, Andorra and Portugal maps up to date, included shops, hotels, restaurants, radars...
I repeat, use google and you will find out
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I have searched Google. I live in Canada so I would need North American maps.. ha.. but however, I still don't get the installation process. I am not very computer literate as many of you guys are ):
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hey, when you use google navigation, will you be able to use the voice guidance??? I am having troubles to use the voice guidance...not sure how to activate it....
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It automatically did it on mine. On google map, tap on Direction. When you enter direction it will ask you to activate GPS (if not already activated).
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It automatically did it on mine. On google map, tap on Direction. When you enter direction it will ask you to activate GPS (if not already activated).
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the google navigation works fine, just there is no voice guidance... It only has the "beep" sound when it is about to change in direction (like make left/right turn, stay in the lane, or heading out to the exit) So I am wondering how to make it with turn by turn with voice guidance turn on...
iHim said:
Currently I installed Navigon, Ndrive, MotoNave and Copilot 8 on my x10i with various world maps and all fully functional without 3g or network connection, direct data from satellite in orbit with the phone inbuild GPS receiver. Why you may ask? Because I can. How you may ask? The answers is out there! I am giving you the knowledge , now go and find your answers.
X10 is an Awsome device.
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what nav app did u like the most out of those? i currently have motonav, its great but button presses are somewhat laggy. what do u reccomend?
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the google navigation works fine, just there is no voice guidance... It only has the "beep" sound when it is about to change in direction (like make left/right turn, stay in the lane, or heading out to the exit) So I am wondering how to make it with turn by turn with voice guidance turn on...
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Try going to your phone Settings/Speech Synthesis/Install voice data...
If that doesn't work the I've no idea
Good luck!
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I like em all but the one I find myself using the most is Copilot 8 and yes you are right, button presses are laggy on Motonav. I travel all over the world with my job so these GPA apps are very handy to have on a single device.
Best device for my needs. Great apps, awesome GPS, great camera, storage space (16GB), 3G & wifi and movies.
twentybenson said:
Try going to your phone Settings/Speech Synthesis/Install voice data...
If that doesn't work the I've no idea
Good luck!
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Looks like i am out of luck. the "install voice data" optioned was dimmed out, and i wont be able to install it.....
Hey all,
For anyone with Bell vibrant version, do any of you have the problem with the "Google Maps Navigation is not yet available for your location" popping up when you open the app? Obviously this is not true since it's fully available here in Canada, not to mention the fact that it worked fine for me before. On my previous JG9 firmware it worked fine, but it seems to have sort of fudged up after the JH2 update. Now it shows that message, turn-by-turn nav is not available and only gives you the option of showing you directions.
Not that I use navigation much, but how should I go about in fixing this problem? any settings or caches I can clear to make it work again?
yes, same error, the fix is to install a new version from Android market
but it is better to use a decent GPS software like CoPilot, IGo, or anything of that quality.
Thanks for the info. I don't think I use GPS enough to buy a better app for it though, but I'll remember it as reference. I'll download the new version of stock for now.
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yes, same error, the fix is to install a new version from Android market
but it is better to use a decent GPS software like CoPilot, IGo, or anything of that quality.
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Google Maps Navigation suddenly stopped working for me on Friday 20th (southern Ontario). Current version is 4.4.0. No update available yet.
It has happened right in the middle of a long weekend trip. It's good I had my old reliable Garmin with me...
I got my phone less than a week ago. Installed Google Maps 4.4 right away. It's worked perfectly since. I'm on whatever firmware the phone came with.
I'm having the same problem on two different phones.
It comes and goes. Restarting the phone usually helps as a temporary fix.
@AllGamer: Google's Navigation may not have some advanced features but I find it far superior to both my Magellan and TomTom.
created a FAQ that answer some of the questions regarding the "Navigator"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=763887
@hoomanb yes, i do like the google navigator, but it's not quite perfect yet, and as you said neither is TomTom
every one of those apps have something i like and dislike
currently using CoPilot, is almost great, but is also missing something i like from TomTom & Google Maps
if they could just combine all 3 of them together...
So, Since the Nexus 7 has only WiFi, which offline navigation app do you use when out without WiFI?
I don't mind paying for app but it should come close to Google maps navigation in terms of accuracy.
And yes Google maps doesn't allow you to navigate offline, it does allow only caching of maps offline.
Sygic, it is the best so far that I have used. Worth the price.
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Sygic, it is the best so far that I have used. Worth the price.
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Wow that is good to know! Tho very expensive. How much memory do all the different maps take? I am going to Europe this fall and will definitely have need of a GPS.
My only concern is that google navigation will eventually work offline, so why pay the extra cash? Then again. I AM going to Europe and I don't think that navigation will work in Europe anyway.
I use a Garmin.
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I AM going to Europe and I don't think that navigation will work in Europe anyway.
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Why shouldn't it work in Europe. There is no reason. My Nexus 7 is working here in Germany and so will yours, or any other Navigationsytem.
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My only concern is that google navigation will eventually work offline, so why pay the extra cash? T
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How will Google navigation work offline? Maps work but navigation you always need Wifi.
I use Google Maps cached. If I forgot to cache one, I use Navfree.
Cache your route on wifi, will work offline.
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Why shouldn't it work in Europe. There is no reason. My Nexus 7 is working here in Germany and so will yours, or any other Navigationsytem.
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OH, nice! I was under the impression that google navigation only worked in The US and canada. What I will probably do is get the 14 day trial version of Sygic and then see if i can use the european map.
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How will Google navigation work offline? Maps work but navigation you always need Wifi.
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Do other GPS devices have a constant connection to the internet? I thought they just re-routed based on your known location using the computer on the device and the stored maps.
I bought Co pilot Live Premium USA yesterday, think it's on sale for 9.99. Haven't used it to navigate yet but downloaded the Midwest maps and played around with it a bit, seems like it will work pretty well. Unfortunately it's only USA maps so you'd have to buy a different version for Europe.
I got CoPilot Live Standard USA for 3.99. Not what the difference is between standard and premium, but all maps are offline. I started it up when I left to work one morning and went my normal direction to work, which was different from what the route said to go. When I didn't take a turn, it automatically adjusted the route for me. Supposed to get free map upgrades "for life".
Only problem is that it can be a rip-off if you want the extra features like 3d navigation, active traffic (12-month subscription), fuel prices (12-month subscription), personal routes (lets you do alternate routes, drag and drop routes, etc.). All of those cost at least 4.96 or more. Only one I'd really consider if personal routes to get alternate routes, but I can live without it for now. 3d navigation would be nice, but not at a cost of 14.99, that's just ridiculous since my eyes will be on the road 99.9% of the time...
I'm another big Sygic fan - and compared to the $100 or so I was paying every year to upgrade maps on a standalone it's very, very cheap. I've used it in Mexico, Arizona, and New Mexico, including in places where there's no cell signal at all and it's accurate and quick. It would be great for Europe, because you can navigate "walking" routes as well as driving. Buying the "package" deals makes the most sense. Have fun! - sheureka
I also use Sygic myself. Tried Co-Pilot and it didn't have some addresses like my house in Canada. Sygic on the other hand is just amazing.
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So, Since the Nexus 7 has only WiFi, which offline navigation app do you use when out without WiFI?
I don't mind paying for app but it should come close to Google maps navigation in terms of accuracy.
And yes Google maps doesn't allow you to navigate offline, it does allow only caching of maps offline.
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im pretty sure it has offline navigation. i think
see: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUIZL_rvCIY
I use Navit and Navdroyd...works well to tell me where on Earth I am. completely offline.
Navit is clunky to use but the app and vector road maps of any land in the world are free to download. I like to walk in a foreign country until I am lost then start Navit to find where I am.
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im pretty sure it has offline navigation. i think
see: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUIZL_rvCIY
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Google Maps uses GPS to show you where you are. Has nothing to do with WiFi if you cache the offline maps.
You can't do turn-by-turn, but if you are out hiking it is great for showing where you are.
Because Apple WiFi does not use GPS receivers, they like to make everyone think it does not work for Google either.
Is there any plan for standalone use of Maps on GPS equipped smartwatches? Tried asking this over at Google Community but their forum doesn't work -- any new question gets an error message and won't post, so I'm hoping to find some help here.
According to Android Pit, “It’s easy to get turn-by-turn directions on your Android Wear smartwatch. Plus, with Android Wear 2.0, you can do it without being connected to your smartphone if your smartwatch has GPS built-in.”
Even a Google Support article regarding AW 2.0 seems to indicate this is possible, just by downloading and using Google Maps on your AW 2.0 device.
My device, the ZTE Quartz, has been reviewed as allowing for stand alone navigation. It has GPS, a SIM card, runs on a 3G network, and has GPS. It even has a menu option for Location of using “Device Only” for GPS. Yet, I can’t use Google Maps without use of my phone.
Wasn’t this supposed to be part of AW 2.0, using maps with the wearable only? It seems there is definitely a sense that it should be possible, as I've indicated above . I keep coming across references to it being possible, but also feedback that it is not possible in real life.
I see Huawei 2 customers are also frustrated, having understood that they could use the watch only for navigation, and yet it does not work, according to threads I've come across, while trying to research this.
The ZTE Quartz Community suggests it is a Google Maps problem that maybe will be fixed in the future? The thought seems to be that AW 2.0 should be capable of it, but the Maps app is at fault.
Any plans to address this? Or will navigation always require use of both the watch and the phone? This greatly reduces the independent use of the watch, obviously, which seemed to be the point of AW 2.0, to address such.
Any thoughts? Is anyone on AW 2.0, with a GPS enabled watch, able to use navigation without a phone?
Huawei watch 2 here.
As for the recent time, i found navigation with the watch to be unreliable, lag and overall pretty useless. With or without phone.
The google app and the maps app got several updates recently so I'll give it a try again.
lg urbane 2
i have the same issue and searching for a solution. the menu already says: use gps inbuilt and smartphone and can't change the option.
can we edit this somewhere?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.wearofflinemap.world&hl=en
Could someone please try this and let us know if it works? The description seems to indicate it should
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.wearofflinemap.world&hl=en
Could someone please try this and let us know if it works? The description seems to indicate it should
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Hi, yes I use it on my Moto 360 sport (upgraded AW2) and it works surprisingly well. Maps are quite clear on watch, zoom in and out easily and pick a start and end point then the app will plot a route and navigate - all offline with no phone!
I'm quite impressed. The only app that comes near is Viewranger.
I made a standalone navigation map here, if you'd like to try it out: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=uk.co.onibaku.standalonewearmap
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I made a standalone navigation map here, if you'd like to try it out: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=uk.co.onibaku.standalonewearmap
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This is looking really good. I want true standalone navigation on my Huawei Watch 2 4G. It has a sim so loads the route standalone and seems to be able to do everything expected...i'm trying the demo version now.
One question though...unless i'm missing something..how do you exit the app? I'm currently having to force close it.
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This is looking really good. I want true standalone navigation on my Huawei Watch 2 4G. It has a sim so loads the route standalone and seems to be able to do everything expected...i'm trying the demo version now.
One question though...unless i'm missing something..how do you exit the app? I'm currently having to force close it.
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I had not realised that the app does not cease to use GPS whilst it is in sleep mode, so I have added a button to exit the app properly when you drag down. I've just released it now.
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I had not realised that the app does not cease to use GPS whilst it is in sleep mode, so I have added a button to exit the app properly when you drag down. I've just released it now.
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Hi I have just bought the standalone wear map for my Huawei watch 2 and it works very well.
Would like to check whether we can record the tracks and have an option to display it on the watch screen in additional to the routes (plot out by defining the destinations).
If no, would there be plan in the future.
Thanks.
Albert