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Hello,
i am planning to buy the Acer NeoTouch S200 F1, and i would like to know which custom rom consider to be the best. In addition, could you tell me if Greek language is supported?
Thanks in advance
Well it depends what rom you consider the best.
If you already know about Windows Mobile and its different Homescreens it is actually up to you.
I personally prefer SPB mobile shell, www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/mobileshell , but it does cost . If you decide to choose SPB mobile shell, then a clean and lite Rom would be one of your choice
Or if you go for Sense 2.5, then Arto's sense rom would be the best choice for you. Some nice feature i really like is SRS WOW HD which signifantly improves the sound quality
Concerning greek i can't answer your question
Thanks for your answer
i read that the latest official rom from acer is ver 3. Does it worth to change it with another unofficial rom? What common things will improve?
In addionio could you tell me how do you find sound speaker and camera quality?
Thanks in advance!
well there are wm versions that are more fingerfriendly, and many unofficial roms run on these.furthermore many unneccessary apps from acer are mo more included
speaker quality concerning the speaker for a call is fine but the external speaker is lets say sufficient
the camera is the biggest weakness, lack of features and bad quality of the photo unless the light conditions are perfect. my old omnia did much better. video recording isnt the best either
Thank riotman for your answers. I really appreciate.
Do you suggest me another smartphone in ~300euro, better than this one?
cxmgp said:
Thank riotman for your answers. I really appreciate.
Do you suggest me another smartphone in ~300euro, better than this one?
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I am using Acer only because i need a Windows Mobile device for my work, otherwise i would bought a Android smartphone - probably HTC Desire or Samsung Galaxy S (I9000).
Android is having much better apps and is easier for use. If you have enough money then buy HTC Desire - you wont regret it - but don´t buy Acer Liquid or some other Android under 300 €.
lets say im contended but i wouldnt recommend it, bad acer service, built quality suffers fast from daily use and wm is a dying plattform. id also buy an android device like the desire or galaxy s if i needed replacememt
neotouch can be found ofr 199 euros...I don't think that you can find a decent adroid smartphone in that price-range..
id like to see the source where u can buy a new acer neotoch for 199 euros...
http://www.wind.it/shop/prodotto46.phtml and it's NOT operator lock and NOT with some kind of contract..sim free.
brainmaster said:
I am using Acer only because i need a Windows Mobile device for my work, otherwise i would bought a Android smartphone - probably HTC Desire or Samsung Galaxy S (I9000).
Android is having much better apps and is easier for use. If you have enough money then buy HTC Desire - you wont regret it - but don´t buy Acer Liquid or some other Android under 300 €.
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Thanks for your reply!
If i bought a smartphone android. Between samsung galaxy i5800 and htc wildfire, which do you suggest me ? both price is ~250euro
cxmgp said:
Thanks for your reply!
If i bought a smartphone android. Between samsung galaxy i5800 and htc wildfire, which do you suggest me ? both price is ~250euro
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None of them, because they both have small display resolution - very bad for surfing.
But, if you are O.K. with that, then i would always go for HTC.
thats why i thought acer neotouch with the 3.8 " screen.
i dont care windows mobile. i know that android is better. the phone isnt for me. IS for person who havent used any smartphone ever. So windows mobile is perfect for him
cxmgp said:
IS for person who havent used any smartphone ever. So windows mobile is perfect for him
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Thats why Android Smartphone is much better for that person.
cxmgp said:
IS for person who havent used any smartphone ever. So windows mobile is perfect for him
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if hes never used a smartphone before, y is windows mobile perfect for him?
might as well get an iPhone 4. easy to use.
he would probably hate windows mobile...
For lot of years only windows mobile were exists. Did you hate them so much (as now)? I believe not. You hate them now because you see android and iphone
The phone will be for my father. He will use it for wifi surfing, listen to music and watch a small video, take a picture.
i like the big screen 3.8"
what do you thing? if i was 'sure' that acer phones is not like acer laptop, i will bought it
Well, Windows Mobile demands a quite large amount of time to understand its functionality... its not like an iphone, which takes away your opportunity to decide what you want to be able to do.
Freedom always requires time to get along with, so if your father likes to discover this,windows mobile will be ok for him.
I actually even gotta agree that the big advantage of Windows mobile is the large variety of Navigation software.
But still i wouldnt recommend Acer... My battery cover is kinda loose after a few months, its not totally fix anymore, btw the battery cover gets scratched really easily, and as already mentioned, unless the daylight conditions arent perfect, the camera is useless.
Try to buy a used HD2 from ebay or somewhere else. it'll be the better choice.
Dont get me wrong, The Acer neotouch is a stunning device, but it's built quality isnt made to last very long
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I am using Acer only because i need a Windows Mobile device for my work, otherwise i would bought a Android smartphone - probably HTC Desire or Samsung Galaxy S (I9000).
Android is having much better apps and is easier for use. If you have enough money then buy HTC Desire - you wont regret it - but don´t buy Acer Liquid or some other Android under 300 €.
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i had a samsung spica ... only one question to android ...
is the bluetooth-spp-profile already usable ??
otherwise for business or private :
my opinion : drop every andriod !!
greets from austria
Actually, I'm quite happy with the stock Acer ROM, it's the most finger friendly UI I've seen (I dislike Manila and SPB Mobile after ver2). Only problem I have with it is just the outdated WM 6.5 and I can't seem to arrange the Start menu icons easily.
I can't say Android is a better platform because I bought one and tried it out extensively. If you're looking for a "smart" phone, then go for Android. If you're looking for a PDA phone, then get a Windows Mobile.
UranusHertz said:
If you're looking for a PDA phone, then get a Windows Mobile.
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OK. But is the Acer then Wm phone to go for? The HD2 might indeed be of better build quality but it has a smaller capacity battery, is too big and cost allmost twice as much.
So the question remains. Is the HD2 (for a slightly slower device but better build quality) the snapdragon WM phone to go for or is the neotouch the better option (especially since the HD2 won't get Windows Phone 7 as was originally promised and remains on a dying platform).
I do not understand how LG Optimus P920 3D Optimus, Optimus 2X, Optimus Mach LU3000, Black Optimus, Optimus Me P350, Revolution... working on OS Android , LG E900 Optimus7 can not, which is the difference and reason that can not be installed on Android optimus7
No one said it cannot be done. It can probably be done, seeing how all WP7 devices share similar hardware to the HTC Desire-derivative phones. However, the LG Optimus 7 is a Windows Phone, and ships with Windows Phone 7 as its operating system. That is the end of it. All the phones you mentioned from LG come with Android as its operating system. I suggest if you prefer Android to WP7, do not bother with LG Optimus 7.
PS: I tried to answer this as calmly as possibly without breaking my keyboard...
Ok kapanak I am not asked to crush keyboard than you actually did not ask anything, if I want Android and Android will buy, I just wondered if anyone could give me a explanation may which is the difference because I see that some LG phone using Android and I wondered why LG E900 Optimus 7 does not. ate different from the others and uses a different hardware. The LG E900 is the perfect Optimus 7 phone who currently use and we changed it from any other phone.
IMHO I think this is politic of LG and many companies. One phone is with Android other one with WP7. Everybody have a choice. I like Android, I use HTC Desire but bought LG Swift 7 (Optimus 7) to test WP7 and make compare betwen Android and WP7.
LG can assembly the same model of phone to Android and to WP7 but marketing is cruel. More phones will sell with Android neither WP7 (at this moment). And LG will do more phones with AND but there is possible to install WP7.
This is my point of view.
I love my Optimus 7 but it would be great if we had the option to dual boot between WP7 and Android. I wonder when someone finds out how to do it.
Currently there are only 2 phones available that can dual boot different OS's:
1. The Nokia N900 can run Maemo, Android and MeeGo.
2. The HTC HD2 can run WM6.5, Android, WP7 and MeeGo.
The only phone that offers 2 different OS's at the SAME time is the HD2 with WP7 or WP6.5 on Nand and Android on SD as secondary OS.
So if you want such stuff you should go for a HD2.
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No one said it cannot be done. It can probably be done, seeing how all WP7 devices share similar hardware to the HTC Desire-derivative phones. However, the LG Optimus 7 is a Windows Phone, and ships with Windows Phone 7 as its operating system. That is the end of it. All the phones you mentioned from LG come with Android as its operating system. I suggest if you prefer Android to WP7, do not bother with LG Optimus 7.
PS: I tried to answer this as calmly as possibly without breaking my keyboard...
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Why does it have to be either/or? I would like the option to dual boot.
Im always surprised by how much flak this type of question gets on XDA, a forum for hardware hacking and independent software development... Why do i want to flash my phone with android? Because hardware hacking is FUN, and just to say I did it. Not because either android or WP7 is better. If the E900 was an android phone id be interested in flashing it to WP7...
What you fail to grasp is the sheer amount of work required to port Android for a phone that didn't support it in the first place. In the case of WM, it was easy, since XDA members hacked the life out of every one of those phones. There has to be someone willing to spend the time porting Android for this phone. But so far, no one is willing. Of you are up for the challenge, the perhaps you should begin your work, and I am sure once a person begins to show progress, other devs and hackers will follow.
Thanks for being condescending but i fully grasp the amount of work required. Im not asking why its not done, i was simply stating its pretty ridiculous how much people here crap on someone for asking. Do you honestly thing if anyone was actually working on it, this would be the place to show their work? I havent seen a single thread where someone proposed flashing different OS's to a WP7 handset that didnt involve at least one person saying "Dont bother". Its almost like WP7 handsets are sacred here and we shouldnt mess with them too much Strange, considering the idea behind this forum...
It may be due to the fact that for years, people here, and elsewhere, have been spending years customizing their phones OS to make it smoother, faster, more intuitive, and then suddenly, we have this new OS that, despite all its obvious and glaring shortcomings, fullfills that need for "speed", and makes the need for customizations and optimizations less than appealing. ( And iOS doesn't count, that's for a different crowd )
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The Problem is not the Hardware (the HD2 uses the same chipset only with lower ram and rom). The problem are the bootloaders. You have to write your own or costumize the original one to allow a 3rd party os. But if somebody know how to extract this files from a lg e900 it would be only a question about some weeks for the first nand android on a lg e900. Because the chipsetdrivers are (theoratically ^^) the same as the HD2 uses.
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The Problem is not the Hardware (the HD2 uses the same chipset only with lower ram and rom). The problem are the bootloaders. You have to write your own or costumize the original one to allow a 3rd party os. But if somebody know how to extract this files from a lg e900 it would be only a question about some weeks for the first nand android on a lg e900. Because the chipsetdrivers are (theoratically ^^) the same as the HD2 uses.
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Got to wait for MAGLDR on optimus 7 then ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfUBo6bzXZ0
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No one said it cannot be done. It can probably be done, seeing how all WP7 devices share similar hardware to the HTC Desire-derivative phones. However, the LG Optimus 7 is a Windows Phone, and ships with Windows Phone 7 as its operating system. That is the end of it. All the phones you mentioned from LG come with Android as its operating system. I suggest if you prefer Android to WP7, do not bother with LG Optimus 7.
PS: I tried to answer this as calmly as possibly without breaking my keyboard...
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i read this post and said lolwut, but yea, it would be great if this phone could get an android port, it does have good potential.
Running WP7: Mango Beta Build 7712
$AUD179 (unlocked), the LG Optimus 7 ... but Android?
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Got to wait for MAGLDR on optimus 7 then ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfUBo6bzXZ0
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2BDMnYMe5E&feature=related
GINGERBREAD now on my old HD2.
This link is offering $AUD179 (unlocked), the LG Optimus 7 Windows Smartphone:
http://www.catchoftheday.com.au/smallfish_info.php?products_id=45298
Better camera, a camera button that does not jolt the camera focus. I'd like to dual boot, cos Android has better third party apps, & more freeware. When I dare upgrade Android, sometimes it puts my phone offline for days, until a solution is found.
I think Android can be ported to Optimus 7 ... there are many Android phones with nearly identical hardware ...
Probably it still needs a minimum effort, so you need to find someone willing to spend his time doing such a thing ...
Btw I think the topic 'how to have windows phone on the possible higher number of devices' is much more interesting than 'how to port Crappoid on our devices'
What I meant to say is : If I was able to, I still would not have spare time for such a 'task'
Is the OS Good? What can you do on it e.g. hack? Is there jailbreaking? Any Custom ROMS?
Thanks.
Was on Andorid what does it compare like if any one has tried best of both worlds/
dont buy a windows 7 phone buy the htc hd2 same proccesor much more customisible i have the htc trophy and it is the worst phone i bought.i had the htc tytn ii and it was much better apart from the camara and proccesor.
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Is the OS Good? What can you do on it e.g. hack? Is there jailbreaking? Any Custom ROMS?
Thanks.
Was on Andorid what does it compare like if any one has tried best of both worlds/
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Hi, mate.
If you want customizable, buy an android. But if you want some phone that you could not change anything to, buy a trophy. except the main screen, where you can change the big icons in any order you want, the rest stays where it is. nothing can be changed ...... but there's one thing great about this win 7: everything is where it should be and it's very easy to use. Yes, to turn on or off wifi i have to press 5 times, for instance. But if you play with it for 1 or 2 days you'll see that it's a very easy device to play with .... everything is one click away .
I have a desire (wife using it for the moment) and i'm not sure i'll get back on desire after had this trophy for a week.
Good luck.
G.
I have both devices. HTC Trophy's performance it better than a WP7 rom flashed on an HD2. I like both devices but the Trophy is my #1!
My wife uses the HD2 now...also with a WP7 rom flashed on it (She likes the simplicity and metro-ui with live-tiles)
If you get a trophy make sure it's developer unlocked before upgrading to NODO via Zune. That way it is still unlocked with NODO installed and you can sideload apps.
Why we havent got a custom rom for our phones? we cant install a lot of apps(like opera or bazaar) if we not have a dft rom. Someone know if any person is developing a custom rom for our smartphone?
thanks and sorry for my english
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Why we havent got a custom rom for our phones? we cant install a lot of apps(like opera or bazaar) if we not have a dft rom. Someone know if any person is developing a custom rom for our smartphone?
thanks and sorry for my english
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Bazaar is possible to install, don't know about the other one.
Yes bazaar is possible to install, but downloaded applications cannot since it needs a fully unlocked phone. So far we have only interop-unlock available.
although after custom ROMs for samsung, some for LG would be great.
with new folder and bluetooth app
Up, it would be great!
Just today I heard about a new version of Folders with a lot of new features ONLY for completely unlocked devices, not talking about the new Bluetooth-transfer app! Come on, xda, give us this little gift!!
I think it's little strange... Many people choose HTC - Mozart, or HD7.
LG with Optimus 7 provides better battery, and better price.
Unfortunately, Optimus isn't popular
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I think it's little strange... Many people choose HTC - Mozart, or HD7.
LG with Optimus 7 provides better battery, and better price.
Unfortunately, Optimus isn't popular
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It's not so strange...Optimus 7 might be value for money, but, LG is not so famous for its phones. HTC and Samsung have made many hits in smartphone market the last years
Also, I hate to admit it, but Optimus 7 is fat, heavy and ugly compared to some other Windows Phone devices.
The worst is that, LG, in many occasions, has let us down with the updates/support. As far as I know, open market e900 devices still haven't got official tethering/hidden wifi support and there are many devices with hardware problems like random reboots etc...my next phone will be a Nokia...they seem to care more about their customers.
Maybe, in the future, we may edit system registry so our device be recognized as htc or nokia. Then we will install a cooked firmware from other like samsung, nokia, htc, then install harret and so on . Cool sci fi.
I'm waiting for the DFT rom for optimus 7 too
My previous mobilephone is samsung Focus ,I had flashed the DFT rom,it is so convience to deploy apps.
Unfortunately ,it had been stolen a week ago .
I have ordered an optimus 7 at taobao ,because it is almost the cheapest WP7 device.
I believe that the DFT rom for optimus 7 will be coming sooner or later.
you have forgot to mention that the Optimus 7 is the best Windows Phone
don't revive old post plz...the didnt knew the exists of wp7 root tools in that time...
mmandys said:
My previous mobilephone is samsung Focus ,I had flashed the DFT rom,it is so convience to deploy apps.
Unfortunately ,it had been stolen a week ago .
I have ordered an optimus 7 at taobao ,because it is almost the cheapest WP7 device.
I believe that the DFT rom for optimus 7 will be coming sooner or later.
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Sorry, but what would a ROM DFT?
yay
Among the models cited by our source are the LG Optimus F3, LG Optimus F6, LG G Pad 8.3 (including Verizon model), LG G Pro Lite, LG Optimus F7, LG-D315 (unannounced), LG LS740 (rumored to be the successor to the LG Optimus F3), LG Optimus L9 II, LG Optimus Vu II, LG Vu III, and the curvy LG G Flex.
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http://www.phonearena.com/news/LG-t...devices-to-Android-4.4_id51571#2-LG-G-Pad-8.3
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LG G Pad with TapTalk Pro
Sweet!
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Oh damn! This news made my day.
Make it happen LG, come on.
Interesting that this still lists the V507L (the 4G LTE version) even though it's not been released yet and many people think it never will.
Nice! I was thinking to move to CM11 now that it seems to support HDMI working (see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=49601193), but if this update happens soon I'll wait for it... :fingers-crossed:
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Nice! I was thinking to move to CM11 now that it seems to support HDMI working (see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=49601193), but if this update happens soon I'll wait for it... :fingers-crossed:
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Yea but the update still keeps lg's crappy skin and bloatware intact while the cm11 rom doesn't. Plus you won't be waiting around for likely a long time to grt the update. BUT at least lg's rom is guaranteed to work with basically every app while there are lots of reports that cm11 roms don't work with a number of games.
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Yea but the update still keeps lg's crappy skin and bloatware intact while the cm11 rom doesn't. Plus you won't be waiting around for likely a long time to grt the update. BUT at least lg's rom is guaranteed to work with basically every app while there are lots of reports that cm11 roms don't work with a number of games.
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actually, you can delete the bloatware. LG actually lets you delete it while others just let you disable it. pretty sure I did this to some aps before I went with cm rom.
Ohh, that's awesome. I've been enjoying the LG 4.2.2 ROM, but this will just sweeten the deal. Looks like the industry as a whole is expecting to get their flagship lineups to 4.4 and will probably leave them there; that'll probably make the consumer market happy for a year (or at least until their next wave of products hit). In the meantime, there's always CM!
Mark
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Yea but the update still keeps lg's crappy skin and bloatware intact while the cm11 rom doesn't. Plus you won't be waiting around for likely a long time to grt the update. BUT at least lg's rom is guaranteed to work with basically every app while there are lots of reports that cm11 roms don't work with a number of games.
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I don't think the LG software is that bad, especially if you use a 3rd party launcher. It's true that the custom roms look nicer, but sounds like you lose some features, e.g., Slimport.
For me, the best solution is a customized rom based on LG stock that is compatible with all the apps, but cleans up the interface a little.
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I don't think the LG software is that bad, especially if you use a 3rd party launcher. It's true that the custom roms look nicer, but sounds like you lose some features, e.g., Slimport.
For me, the best solution is a customized rom based on LG stock that is compatible with all the apps, but cleans up the interface a little.
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Agreed. A custom launcher would be nice, but this will do for me. I love me my Knock On (power button? What's that?) and HDMI. And as non-stock as LG's interface is, it's still far closer to stock than most OEMs and will work for me. I'm coming from Acer and Asus tablets and it's much more like them than Samsung, etc.
Mark
I am hoping that article is correct. I used to use CM11 on my old tablet but tried it and a couple others on my LG and missed the LG interface. SO I am now running stock with Apex. A 4.4 update should be nice.
I don't mind the interface. Frankly I tend to ignore them on tablets. I use a tablet for it's apps not for how pretty the icons look...
I considering trying a custom ROM but I need slimport as I output the tablet to HDMI.
I also read that the knock on feature does not work with customer roms and I actually like that function.
4.4 with everything working is just fine with me.
Now we wait.
Unless of courses Samsung releases it's new Tab Pro 8.4 before then. I'm planning on picking it up.
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I don't mind the interface. Frankly I tend to ignore them on tablets. I use a tablet for it's apps not for how pretty the icons look...
I considering trying a custom ROM but I need slimport as I output the tablet to HDMI.
I also read that the knock on feature does not work with customer roms and I actually like that function.
4.4 with everything working is just fine with me.
Now we wait.
Unless of courses Samsung releases it's new Tab Pro 8.4 before then. I'm planning on picking it up.
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Well, I don't wait anymore. Knock on and off works with CM11 and Mahdi ; HDMI through slimport as well. It might even work with the other roms, but I haven't tried them.
This is good news as I'm still running the stock 4.2.2 LG Rom on my g pad 8.3 and don't feel like messing around with custom rooms hopefully it comes out soon.
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i am happy with the performance.. using rooted stock, did not install any custom recovery
rooted cause i want to use gl2sd, adaway and helium
but it's still gd to hear that we have official updates to kitkat
Im still stock as well. dont pklan on changing either . especially with kitkat coming soon !
There is already a thread about the topic.
Please continue your discussion here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2536671
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