If I were to buy a Tab from Europe for use in the United States on AT&T, is there a particular model out there that works on the bands AT&T supports? As I understand it, the phone capability is disabled on the U.S. release, so I'd like to get one that has the capability, since I'm a bluetooth user primarily for phone calls anyway.
jdsemler said:
If I were to buy a Tab from Europe for use in the United States on AT&T, is there a particular model out there that works on the bands AT&T supports? As I understand it, the phone capability is disabled on the U.S. release, so I'd like to get one that has the capability, since I'm a bluetooth user primarily for phone calls anyway.
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If we are lucky the phone is disabled only at the ROM level... In which case we may get it back when flashing
If you want the right 3G bands, I would bet on Telstra (Australia0 or Bell (Canada). The problem is you'll probably end up paying more than US versions
We are on the same boat btw...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=824676
What worries me is AT&T has been super slow in announcing its model... We still have no idea when it will be available or how much it will cost
^ Most likely before the holiday shopping season begins. They wont DARE miss it.
What At&t is probably doing is focusing on Windows Phone 7 for a while before switching their marketing over to the Galaxy Tab. Also, let the other carriers market the crap out of their own Galaxy Tabs so At&t stands out from the crowd.
The three carriers will be launching their Tabs only a couple of days from each other. T-Mobile is first, two days later Verizon then 4 days later Sprint.
I would love to get an Euro version to use on AT&T, but they are so damn expensive. The cheapest I've found is $939!!!!
INeedYourHelp said:
I would love to get an Euro version to use on AT&T, but they are so damn expensive. The cheapest I've found is $939!!!!
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On top of that 3G won't work in the US... So no don;t do that, it would be such a waste...
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On top of that 3G won't work in the US... So no don;t do that, it would be such a waste...
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NOT true.
The euro model WILL WORK on at&t's 3G just fine (and will make call just fine) if you live in an area that at&t uses 1900Mhz for its 3G network.
I use it just fine here in the SF Bay Area.
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I think if your going to get a tab with no contract the best one to get would be the tmobile one the sim slot is still here so it may just be the rom they mess with,
plus the price is like 599 us why pay 989 plus shipping
bulldebeerman said:
I think if your going to get a tab with no contract the best one to get would be the tmobile one the sim slot is still here so it may just be the rom they mess with,
plus the price is like 599 us why pay 989 plus shipping
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???????
You think the slim slot will be missing on other carriers ? Yeah right...
There will be a SIM slot on all of the Tabs in the US. You need a SIM for 3G connections
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NOT true.
The euro model WILL WORK on at&t's 3G just fine (and will make call just fine) if you live in an area that at&t uses 1900Mhz for its 3G network.
I use it just fine here in the SF Bay Area.
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And you'll be missing 850 Mhx band
So... you pay nearly twice the price of the US Tab and you get a crippled device... Sounds like a great deal !
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You think the slim slot will be missing on other carriers ? Yeah right...
There will be a SIM slot on all of the Tabs in the US. You need a SIM for 3G connections
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It'll be missing on the Sprint and Verizon models as they're CDMA-based and therefore don't use SIM cards.
Hey guys- there is already a post that discusses this question. please be careful about clogging the site up with questions that have already been discussed. (it's upsetting the Russians)
As far as the 850 band goes, it's just as fast and available as the 1900 band. 850 was added to relieve congestion due to IPhone users in 2010. 1900 is still most places and isn't going away.
I wouldn't knock someone because they decided to get the euro version without 850. Clubtech has been rocking out on his for about a month with voice capability unlocked while we are sitting around hoping that the US carrier version can be hacked. That only cost him roughly 50 bucks a week and that drops every day we don't have one. Seems pretty smart at this point and by the time we do get ours and figure out how to unlock the phone the difference in price will be negligible. plus he's already saving for the next gen tab while we wait for this one. And how upset will you be when you find out the hardware is disconnected and we can't get the phone turned on and have to pay the same price 2 months later after already buying the castrated US version. I guess we will find out after Thursday. Also, I heard a nasty rumor that the front facing camera on the AT&T version is removed.
I plan to get the T-Mo version without a contract on Wed and then hand that off to my wife as a Wi-Fi only tab when I can get my hands on the unlocked 850 band model that has phone capability as shown on mobilecity.com or Negrielectronics.com. I don't care what the price is, I just want to rock out on a tab like Clubtech is doing NOW!!!
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Clubtech has been rocking out on his for about a month...
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I thought the release date was November first?
he got the Italian model several weeks ago
I didn't realise they'd launched it there earlier, for some reason I was under the impression it was launched across Europe on the same date.
Only the UK model was delayed untill Nov 1. Italy, Germany and several others have had it since early Oct.
The offical unlocked 850/1900 version was delayed until early 2011. Atleast thats what Samsung told Nergi however, the Bell version is offically coming on Nov 12th and that version has 850/1900 3G bands so there ya go... Full 3G in the USA!
Hi guys... I joined xda to try to figure out the best way to get voice calling in the US on the Tab... so thank you all so much for your information.
In an attempt to see if I have 1900MHz coverage from AT&T in my area... I called their 800 no. (1-800-331-0500) given to me by the local office, cus they didn't know precise coverage areas.
At the 800 number, the rep read from an Oct 10 release (on their MyCustomer Service Portal) where AT&T says that "because the number of customers with 1900MHz only phones is declinging" they are phasing out that frequency in 2010-2011. It's already begun in 30 markets (OKC phase out should be complete by Dec 2 according to the release). (Edited to add: clubtech says that they've been saying this since 2008, and hasn't happened yet.... so maybe it won't? who knows...)
They said they would replace customers' phones as the frequency was phased out if they were 1900MHz only.
And from what I've been able to learn here and elsewhere... it is the 1900MHz frequency that the Galaxy Tab uses, not the 850 frequency (at least on AT&T).
Sooooo.... isn't that lovely?
Looks like a Euro unlocked will not work for too much longer... altho maybe by the time the 1900 bands are phased out, there will be other workarounds.
So it's either back to mobilecity to preorder the 3G unlocked version for $879 (and who knows when that will be in?) or wait to see if the T-Mo version can be flashed to voice calling... which hopefully we will know soon.
btw... in my searching, clubtech was kind enough to enlighten me that the Euro version Tabs on eBay will only work on the 2G network of T-Mobile, which obviously is no good... so heads up on that.
But I must say I am getting even more pissed at the US carriers for making it so difficult to use the phone features of the tablet.
xexes said:
Hi guys... I joined xda to try to figure out the best way to get voice calling in the US on the Tab... so thank you all so much for your information.
In an attempt to see if I have 1900MHz coverage from AT&T in my area... I called their 800 no. (1-800-331-0500) given to me by the local office, cus they didn't know precise coverage areas.
At the 800 number, the rep read from an Oct 10 release (on their MyCustomer Service Portal) where AT&T says that "because the number of customers with 1900MHz only phones is declinging" they are phasing out that frequency in 2010-2011. It's already begun in 30 markets (OKC phase out should be complete by Dec 2 according to the release). (Edited to add: clubtech says that they've been saying this since 2008, and hasn't happened yet.... so maybe it won't? who knows...)
They said they would replace customers' phones as the frequency was phased out if they were 1900MHz only.
And from what I've been able to learn here and elsewhere... it is the 1900MHz frequency that the Galaxy Tab uses, not the 850 frequency (at least on AT&T).
Sooooo.... isn't that lovely?
Looks like a Euro unlocked will not work for too much longer... altho maybe by the time the 1900 bands are phased out, there will be other workarounds.
So it's either back to mobilecity to preorder the 3G unlocked version for $879 (and who knows when that will be in?) or wait to see if the T-Mo version can be flashed to voice calling... which hopefully we will know soon.
btw... in my searching, clubtech was kind enough to enlighten me that the Euro version Tabs on eBay will only work on the 2G network of T-Mobile, which obviously is no good... so heads up on that.
But I must say I am getting even more pissed at the US carriers for making it so difficult to use the phone features of the tablet.
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What starts to piss me off is AT&T has still not given any release date. Probably trying to please Apple... Once AT&T's tab is out we'll find out whether the call has been disabled at the hardware level (Given Samsung's history, I kind of doubt it)
But point taken, Cell phones networks (and operators) are at the level of Third World countries in America... (I lived in Hong Kong and Japan before)
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But point taken, Cell phones networks (and operators) are at the level of Third World countries in America... (I lived in Hong Kong and Japan before)
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Different countries' networks have different strong points and weak points.
In the UK, the biggest upside is the competitive pricing. The biggest downside is the generally poor data services, allowances, prices and speeds.
In the US, the cons seem to be the 50/50 split between two technologies, making matters unnecessarily complex and reducing competition, thus leading to poorer pricing. The pros relate to the superior adoption/acceptance of data usage, more generous allowances, pushing forwards with better network technologies and higher speeds.
Or, at least, that's how I see it.
I'm on the same boat with you Alcibiade. Although I tend to believe it's the collaborative decision, or perhaps more on the Samsung's side, to make the Tab more competitive to the iPad. If you look at the pricing of the Euro/Asia version, it's pretty much no contest against the iPad. For them to sell it here in the State (the home of walmart, Target, etc, and where iPad is from) they really had to take drastic approach to lower it in order to match the iPad. And that leaves u, and me getting frustrated about if we really do have the type of options that Samsung is trying to appeal to the consumer (by offering the same device to different carriers).
From what I can gather, aside from the lack of the voice capability, there are small difference between carriers. Spring and Verizon's version seems to have only 2GB built in memory. The T-Mobile runs on it's own 3G band. And AT&T's version is up in the air. I know for me I definitely need GSM for traveling, so that really leaves me without too much choice.
Albeit maybe i am just in the minority. But i really wish they could make purchasing Tab as easy as buying the iPad.
Related
http://www.infosyncworld.com/news/n/10780.html
http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Mobile-and-Wireless/Google-Nexus-One-May-Be-on-Tap-for-ATT-494707/
I will be SOOOO pissed if a phone with dual capability or even AT&T comes out soon. I should have waited
I'm hoping they will offer me an exchange if I can obtain 3g. After all I did pay $530 for a 2G device just because I'm a Google fan boy.
-Charlie
I'm hoping the same... would be great if you could exchange between 3 models so you truely are free of the phone companies! It would have to cost something but I would be willling to switch between AT&T, Sprint, Verizon and Tmobile.
i thought the update would be software not hardware.....
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i thought the update would be software not hardware.....
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Legally, it can't be. The AWS (T-Mobile) Nexus One only passed the FCC with the GSM 850/1900 and the UMTS 700/2100 frequencies tested. If it supported any other North American frequencies, those also would have needed to be tested. Any device released to the public can't exist with untested frequencies hiding under the hood. When it comes to frequencies, it's always a matter of hardware.
To anyone who didn't think this wasn't going to happen, you're a fool. There may not be a version sold for AT&T specifically, but it was very highly safe to assume that the product would make it to Canada. Since all the major Canadian companies run off the same bands as AT&T, everyone should have been able to figure out that there would be a version that works on AT&T coming out.
I'll be a little miffed if it's an at&t/t-mobile compatible instead of just at&t compatible.
Nexus coming to ATT
After making the move to Ft. Myers, FL I realized that tmo was horribly spotty. Its bad enough that the phone jumps from H to 3G to edge on a constant basis. So I went to to ATT and got a prepaid plan and the guy who assisted scan my IMEI # to put it into the cpu and said thats weird... it came up in our cpu as Nexus one usually unlocked phones name do not show up. He said which means we are getting this phone. Now I do care that I have it on tmo since I bought it full price and didnt use an upgrade, but thats the price you pay for just jumping in.
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I'll be a little miffed if it's an at&t/t-mobile compatible instead of just at&t compatible.
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Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but given the current state of cell phone antenna technology an at&t and t-mobile compatible phone will not be available. The design of the cell phone antenna is critical when you want to accommodate several frequencies. Finding an optimal design for one frequency might affect the signal of another frequency when using the same antenna or one in close proximity. Given the size of smarphones and the fact that we all want small and slim (pocketable) smartphones, the engineers have to compromise on the number of frequencies a given phone antenna(s) can support. It's possible, but you'll most likely end with a much larger phone if the antenna(s) is/are build-in.
If you bought it within 14 days (30 in California) you can still return the phone. Restocking fee of $45.
Based on past phones, what kind of time line are we looking at until this new version would go on sale? Weeks or months?
If it happens soon I have a mint condition unlocked tmobile one for trade for an att one lol, that is if they don't send a letter saying we will trade you for the restocking fee.
-Charlie
i would pay a restocking fee no problem. Mine is mint as well... someone trade me ;-)
http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/12/samsung-galaxy-s-2-and-10-1-inch-honeycomb-tablet-leaked-on-kore/
Alright as seen above is the Galaxy S2, Mkkkkkk thats great and all but because it has HSPA+ does that mean it can be on T-Mobile only I get confused by this and think "God dammit the antenna cant be run on Sprint, there is no way we are getting that phone now" This happened with the Pre 3 too, I just need some further insight into what that spec means and how it affects which provider the phone is going too.
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http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/12/samsung-galaxy-s-2-and-10-1-inch-honeycomb-tablet-leaked-on-kore/
Alright as seen above is the Galaxy S2, Mkkkkkk thats great and all but because it has HSPA+ does that mean it can be on T-Mobile only I get confused by this and think "God dammit the antenna cant be run on Sprint, there is no way we are getting that phone now" This happened with the Pre 3 too, I just need some further insight into what that spec means and how it affects which provider the phone is going too.
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you sir would be correct, that will not work on a sprint network.
Blitzpwnage said:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/12/samsung-galaxy-s-2-and-10-1-inch-honeycomb-tablet-leaked-on-kore/
Alright as seen above is the Galaxy S2, Mkkkkkk thats great and all but because it has HSPA+ does that mean it can be on T-Mobile only I get confused by this and think "God dammit the antenna cant be run on Sprint, there is no way we are getting that phone now" This happened with the Pre 3 too, I just need some further insight into what that spec means and how it affects which provider the phone is going too.
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HSPA+ is run on GSM networks NOT CDMA which is what sprint and Verizon use. Hence the different stuff on each network ex. EVDO, and HSPA
I think at&t also is going to be using hspa+
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you sir would be correct, that will not work on a sprint network.
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Yes, but keep in mind that leak is coming from Korea and it's going to be at MWC so it's no surprise that it only mentions a GSM / HSPA+ version. Nothing says that there wont be a CDMA / LTE / Wimax version for Sprint / Verizon.
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HSPA+ is what the GSM carriers are doing for 4G right now. I think ATT is going to do LTE, T-mobile doesn't plan on it...I just switched back to sprint from t-mobile and the speed difference is ridiculous. Even on 4G, I am getting half the data speeds that I did with t-mobile HSDPA. Definitely not what I expected.
When the original Galaxy S was announced, it was GSM only as well but variants came out for all the carriers. I wouldn't buy anything from Samsung though, regardless of how appealing it seems.
*sigh*
HSPA+ = GSM = AT&T, T-Mobile, and 99% of all carriers in Europe, Asia, Africa, Australia, and South America.
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HSPA+ = GSM = AT&T, T-Mobile, and 99% of all carriers in Europe, Asia, Africa, Australia, and South America.
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Wow, this is such a misleading comment. Europe uses gsm exclusively but the rest of the world mostly uses cdma. Don't sigh about it. But please don't lie about it.
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Wow, this is such a misleading comment. Europe uses gsm exclusively but the rest of the world mostly uses cdma. Don't sigh about it. But please don't lie about it.
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Um, actually most of the world uses GSM, which is why gsm phones are commonly referred to as "world phones"
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No, phones that are gsm AND CDMA are referred to as world phones typically.
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No, phones that are gsm AND CDMA are referred to as world phones typically.
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Actually, the term pre-dates combo GSM/CDMA devices and was used to refer to GSM phones since GSM networks were the predominate cell technology outside of the US (and still are).
Oh, and to the OP, HSPA+ is being marketed as "4G" currently by AT&T alongside their yet-to-be-launched LTE network. Talk about confusing You may find that with a little bit of effort,( or none at all) HSPA+ equipped devices will bet interchangeable between T-mobile and AT&T. There are also rumours that some LTE-equipped devices will be able to swap between Verizon and AT&T.
Yep..me too. Actually breaking my contract (less than a year in because of Sprints abysmal speed) as soon as Infuse, or Galaxy 2 etc break.
Can't wait for the infuse 4g .... 4.5 in screeen wow
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Wow, this is such a misleading comment. Europe uses gsm exclusively but the rest of the world mostly uses cdma. Don't sigh about it. But please don't lie about it.
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I lived in Cambodia for five years and travelled between often to Thailand and other countries. They all use GSM...
I'm breaking contract with T-mobile. I had a G1, loved it. Got a Vibrant, it was a nightmare trying to get it to work correctly, although I can't lie, I still enjoyed having it. Got a Nexus S, too many problems, returned it. Got a MT4G, nice phone, runs smoothly, but the screen was too small and the phone itself is a bit on the ugly side.
The real determing factor for me was that Sprint has 4G in my area, all of the other providers have 3G, and T-mobile is still running on Edge. I'm within my 30 day trial period w/ Sprint and the Evo, and I'll see how it goes. I was really hoping on going w/ Verizon and the HTC Thunderbolt, but alas, it's still up-in-the-air when it will come out. Verizon is more expensive as well when it comes to data plans. And as far as the MT4G, although CM7 runs very well on it, and it is very stable, I still can't bring myself to buying a 4G phone from a company that only offers Edge in my area (supposedly the military base near here is using their 3G towers to link to Afghanistan, but that's their problem, not mine)
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Can't wait for the infuse 4g .... 4.5 in screeen wow
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Do yourself a favor... don't buy a Samsung device. They make good screens, I'll admit. But you'll be waiting for updates forever, and somebody won't release the code... just look at the Vibrant threads... they haven't even gotten CM6, let alone CM7.
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Wow, this is such a misleading comment. Europe uses gsm exclusively but the rest of the world mostly uses cdma. Don't sigh about it. But please don't lie about it.
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You're an idiot. The only places outside of North America that CDMA are used are sporadically in China, a carrier or two in Japan, here and there in the rest of Asia, and that's about it.
"World phones" are AT&T (since they use different frequencies than the rest of the world's GSM networks except for... Telstra in Australia?), Verizon, and Sprint phones which have extra radios that support the standard quad-band networks. That's why there's two models of the Nexus One: A T-Mobile/World model, and the AT&T model.
The future of mobile is going to be in wifi not cellular. Hspa+ is TM's trial run at nailing down seemless transfer from 4G to wifi for data and voice calls. Assuming there are not many stumbling blocks, their future (and any other wireless companies that dont want to be left behind) will be into switching to running purely off wifi towers.
I read that T-Mobile users will have to switch out to an AT&T smartphone device (at no cost or so they say) in order to stay on the 3G network because of the frequency difference. With that said it will be the end of our HD2 at least on 3G, even if it's a year out this phone still has over a year left of use in it.
do we need another thread about this buyout?
Not true. Nothing will happen for atleast a year. Plus.......from what I have read...they bought T-Mobile to add the 2 networks together. At&t has run out of room and want to unload some of they're weight onto tmobiles spectrum.
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why would they stop broadcasting on our 3g frequency?
they paid the FCC ridiculously for the right to that frequency and by adding the two different frequencies together and by designing phones with radios to access both frequencies, AT&T be able to compete with Verizon in terms of network coverage speed etc. This merger could be good for us as long as they don't price gouge us.
It doesnt make any sense unless at&t plans to sell the tmobile frequency to another cell company to force customers to switch to at&t phones...I dont see how or why that would ever happen makes much more sense to combine networks to increase speed and coverage and provide better service bc that is what will get and keep customers
If AT&T jacks up rates and tries to play the TMobile customers who went to TMobile in the first place bc Tmobile was the only wireless competition who went after Verizon and AT&T by offering better prices then AT&T can kiss its TMobile customers goodbye. I hate this merger from a consumer perspective but if they dont get greedy it might be ok...I dunno lack of competition is almost always bad for consumers
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why would they stop broadcasting on our 3g frequency?
they paid the FCC ridiculously for the right to that frequency and by adding the two different frequencies together and by designing phones with radios to access both frequencies, AT&T be able to compete with Verizon in terms of network coverage speed etc. This merger could be good for us as long as they don't price gouge us.
It doesnt make any sense unless at&t plans to sell the tmobile frequency to another cell company to force customers to switch to at&t phones...I dont see how or why that would ever happen makes much more sense to combine networks to increase speed and coverage and provide better service bc that is what will get and keep customers
If AT&T jacks up rates and tries to play the TMobile customers who went to TMobile in the first place bc Tmobile was the only wireless competition who went after Verizon and AT&T by offering better prices then AT&T can kiss its TMobile customers goodbye. I hate this merger from a consumer perspective but if they dont get greedy it might be ok...I dunno lack of competition is almost always bad for consumers
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AT&T has announced it is NOT going to us T-Mo's frequencies. They are going to upgrade the T-Mo towers to their 4G LTE tech, rendering our 3G phones useless. This is supposed to take a year or two though.
so whoever has the tmobiles "4G" aka HSPA+ devices, will be able to use that "4G LTE" network that they gonna add which should make G2 MT4G capable of the real 4G speeds?
No HSPA + uses GSM crap and whatnot whilst LTE is like next gen GSM. So no, if you have an HSPA+ phone it won't work on LTE.
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No HSPA + uses GSM crap and whatnot whilst LTE is like next gen GSM. So no, if you have an HSPA+ phone it won't work on LTE.
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well that blows.. guess ill have to wait to see waht they come up with. no matter how much i hate att i really need a gsm device....
Well as said. LTE is like a next gen or evolution of GSM. So alot of carriers are moving to it, if not all. At&t, Verizon, Sprint, Europe is going there. Maybe asia. So maybe LTE will be the new GSM.
Only downside is for people who live in third/second world countries.
Although you won't expect a big wave of LTE devices to hit anytime soon however, and make GSM obsolete.
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Well as said. LTE is like a next gen or evolution of GSM. So alot of carriers are moving to it, if not all. At&t, Verizon, Sprint, Europe is going there. Maybe asia. So maybe LTE will be the new GSM.
Only downside is for people who live in third/second world countries.
Although you won't expect a big wave of LTE devices to hit anytime soon however, and make GSM obsolete.
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well yea thats true but withing next like 2 years they should start popping out fast
nothing is changing any time soon.... They are honoring all contracts that are entered before the merger happens. MEANING if you have an hd2 you have nothing to worry about. I for one will not still be using it in two years from now. There will be WAY better phones by then.
what a niche of people are worried about is if the $10 web2go or $5.99 tzones UNLIMITED DATA WITH TETHERING NO CAPS will still work..
I'm looking at going with the larger screen T-Mobile mo to mo. First device on their high speed network. We'll have to look closely at the action of Qualcomm during the first 30 days.
Never. I've tasted freedom and won't go back. Not having to live with carrier hardware and software changes and being dependent on them for updates is a joy. For $10 a month I have unlimited fake-4G data and free tethering. When it's time to replace the SGS2 it will be with another carrier-unmolested phone. I just bought a 10.1 Tab and got if from the UK so I don't have to deal with all of the U.S. "customization." And T-Mobile sucks - I dumped them when I dumped my piece of crap G2X. Good luck if you have a problem with your phone. Their idea of overnight replacement takes 3-5 days. And every agent tells you something different - some are extremely competent the majority are idiots reading from a script. AT&T will have to dispose of some assets but there's no doubt the merger will go through. T-Mobile's lost 1MM post-paid subscribers so for this year. Then you're shiny new AWS banded phone will make a great paperweight once AT&T starts using the bands for LTE.
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Never. I've tasted freedom and won't go back. Not having to live with carrier hardware and software changes and being dependent on them for updates is a joy. For $10 a month I have unlimited fake-4G data and free tethering. When it's time to replace the SGS2 it will be with another carrier-unmolested phone. I just bought a 10.1 Tab and got if from the UK so I don't have to deal with all of the U.S. "customization." And T-Mobile sucks - I dumped them when I dumped my piece of crap G2X. Good luck if you have a problem with your phone. Their idea of overnight replacement takes 3-5 days. And every agent tells you something different - some are extremely competent the majority are idiots reading from a script. AT&T will have to dispose of some assets but there's no doubt the merger will go through. T-Mobile's lost 1MM post-paid subscribers so for this year. Then you're shiny new AWS banded phone will make a great paperweight once AT&T starts using the bands for LTE.
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I'm in complete agreement with you about the 'carrier' freedom. The only thing that really perturbs me is the reports of phone tweaking (example: how the ATT infuse 4g will get higher data speeds than the sgs ii with them sitting side by side) and if that pattern holds true I'd suspect that the American bastard step-child SGS II will out perform its untainted euro cousin.
I'm rather forced to use the upcoming T-mobile USA release due the band frequencies as the current International model is not compatible with 1700 / 2100
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I'm in complete agreement with you about the 'carrier' freedom. The only thing that really perturbs me is the reports of phone tweaking (example: how the ATT infuse 4g will get higher data speeds than the sgs ii with them sitting side by side) and if that pattern holds true I'd suspect that the American bastard step-child SGS II will out perform its untainted euro cousin.
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I know side by side with the International version that would happen but why vs the Infuse?
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Never. I've tasted freedom and won't go back. Not having to live with carrier hardware and software changes and being dependent on them for updates is a joy. For $10 a month I have unlimited fake-4G data and free tethering. When it's time to replace the SGS2 it will be with another carrier-unmolested phone. I just bought a 10.1 Tab and got if from the UK so I don't have to deal with all of the U.S. "customization." And T-Mobile sucks - I dumped them when I dumped my piece of crap G2X. Good luck if you have a problem with your phone. Their idea of overnight replacement takes 3-5 days. And every agent tells you something different - some are extremely competent the majority are idiots reading from a script. AT&T will have to dispose of some assets but there's no doubt the merger will go through. T-Mobile's lost 1MM post-paid subscribers so for this year. Then you're shiny new AWS banded phone will make a great paperweight once AT&T starts using the bands for LTE.
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Agreed. I'm even running on the "4g" phone apn. On AT&T OLAM, its recognized as Medianet.
I will get the version att has if it's the sgs2 internals with the physical keyboard.
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AllGamer said:
I'm rather forced to use the upcoming T-mobile USA release due the band frequencies as the current International model is not compatible with 1700 / 2100
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The problem there is that if the reports about the hardware specs are true, it won't really be a true sgs2.
Qualcomm instead of exynos? that would make it a pos disguised as an sgs2.
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I'm looking at going with the larger screen T-Mobile mo to mo. First device on their high speed network. We'll have to look closely at the action of Qualcomm during the first 30 days.
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Wait, when did TMO get a high speed network I've realized the best devices I've owned have all been unmolested by any US carrier. Last device I really loved before the SGS2 was the Nexus One. So I really can't see myself giving up my unbranded international version. Case in point is the transition to the Qualcomm processor. If it's anything like the performance I get with my Sensation, that's a big step down from the exynos. I'll be more than happy holding on to my SGS2 until something like the Nexus 3 or SGS3 drops
Hi,
Had bought a T-mobile Note 2 that I got unlocked and was using on AT&T. That was all of 3 weeks ago, and over thanksgiving, dropped the damn phone and shattered the screen - the damaged phone is on Craiglist btw, goto Houston craigs and search "Broken Screen, otherwise working Galaxy Note".
In the market for a new one now - pending the sale of the damaged one obviously.
There are 2 many versions out there and ALL the searching I've done has left me even more confused.
There are 2 international versions - 7100 and 7105. In the US, there are carrier specific versions.
If you don't care about LTE, then apparently, the T-Mobile version was better even for use on AT&T - which is what I did, and was quite happy with the internet speeds on wap.cingular APN.
The one downside of the US specific versions is that they appear to lack the Wireless Charging pins (atleast the T-Mobile version doesn't seem to allow wireless charging).
If I were to go for an international unlocked version, would it be restricted to 2g speeds (like Iphone 4s would be limited to EDGE on T-Mobile) on AT&T?.. or, would it get decent HSPA+ atleast?.
Not too fussed about LTE - I use the phone for... emails...web surfing, occasional YouTube for the kids, so blazing fast internet is not a must, reasonable speeds are all I ask for.
So, simple questions really...1) US AT&T or US T-Mobile... or N7100 or N7105
2) Would either of the international versions get atleast HSPA+?
Again, I did read all the threads and left confused - hence this post.
Thanks for any help.
Riz
Check the bands for the carriers and with each phone
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RizSher said:
Hi,
Had bought a T-mobile Note 2 that I got unlocked and was using on AT&T. That was all of 3 weeks ago, and over thanksgiving, dropped the damn phone and shattered the screen - the damaged phone is on Craiglist btw, goto Houston craigs and search "Broken Screen, otherwise working Galaxy Note".
In the market for a new one now - pending the sale of the damaged one obviously.
There are 2 many versions out there and ALL the searching I've done has left me even more confused.
There are 2 international versions - 7100 and 7105. In the US, there are carrier specific versions.
If you don't care about LTE, then apparently, the T-Mobile version was better even for use on AT&T - which is what I did, and was quite happy with the internet speeds on wap.cingular APN.
The one downside of the US specific versions is that they appear to lack the Wireless Charging pins (atleast the T-Mobile version doesn't seem to allow wireless charging).
If I were to go for an international unlocked version, would it be restricted to 2g speeds (like Iphone 4s would be limited to EDGE on T-Mobile) on AT&T?.. or, would it get decent HSPA+ atleast?.
Not too fussed about LTE - I use the phone for... emails...web surfing, occasional YouTube for the kids, so blazing fast internet is not a must, reasonable speeds are all I ask for.
So, simple questions really...1) US AT&T or US T-Mobile... or N7100 or N7105
2) Would either of the international versions get atleast HSPA+?
Again, I did read all the threads and left confused - hence this post.
Thanks for any help.
Riz
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I have the international GT-N7100 version and am using it on AT&T until my contract expires in February 2013. You get with them the HSPA+ speed, not the LTE of course. I am going to eventually drop them just like they drop my call now...
In March 2013 my plan is to go with a prepaid service which uses T-Mobile network. By than T-Mobile will (hopefully) their 1900 spectrum active everywhere, which means that I should be getting a very good HSPA+ speed.
P.S. - That phone is available now from newegg.com for $600 till 11/27, but there are ongoing sales in that price range.
Thanks Reuven.
I managed to get rid of the broken Note 2 on craigs for 380$ within an hour or posting the ad... I'm wondering if maybe there is a very easy way to replace the screen... I got about 5 calls in the hour...
Went ahead and ordered the white one from NewEgg... 599 delivered is a pretty good deal.... (the 599 deal on the white ones is available till 11/27).
Riz
RizSher said:
Thanks Reuven.
I managed to get rid of the broken Note 2 on craigs for 380$ within an hour or posting the ad... I'm wondering if maybe there is a very easy way to replace the screen... I got about 5 calls in the hour...
Went ahead and ordered the white one from NewEgg... 599 delivered is a pretty good deal.... (the 599 deal on the white ones is available till 11/27).
Riz
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If you don't mind, you can "thank" me by clicking on the "Thanks" button.
The 7100 will get HSPA+ on AT&T (3G) because they operate HSPA+ on 1900 MHz.
You will only get 2G on TMO, because their HSPA+ is on 1700 MHz, which is not supported by the note 2.
TMO is slowly moving their HSPA+ service to 1900 MHz, which IS supported by the note 2, but the move will take until middle of 2013. (This is the reason why AT&T iPhones going to TMO network never got 3G, it was on the wrong band for those phones. One day those apple folks will be really happy when the switch is made, because they will suddenly get 3G service.)
You won't get TMO's "4G" 42mbit service even when the 1900 MHz switch is complete because the radio in the note 2 doesn't support it. 21 is as fast as it goes.
Overseas, the most popular bands for 3G are 900 MHz and 2100 MHz, both of which the 7100 supports.
I wouldn't waste time with the 7105. LTE is not widely used in europe, and when it is, it is very expensive.
Hope this helps! I just bought a 7100 in preparation for travel/relocation to London, so I did a fair bit of research.
RizSher said:
Thanks Reuven.
I managed to get rid of the broken Note 2 on craigs for 380$ within an hour or posting the ad... I'm wondering if maybe there is a very easy way to replace the screen... I got about 5 calls in the hour...
Riz
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I think i read somewhere that if your LCD is broken the whole part needs replacing costing $200 ish
But if just the front glass then its very cheap at about $20 although skill/familiarity is needed to make a successful repair.
Pat. said:
I think i read somewhere that if your LCD is broken the whole part needs replacing costing $200 ish
But if just the front glass then its very cheap at about $20 although skill/familiarity is needed to make a successful repair.
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The skill thats needed is beyond most of us - I asked one of these kiosk phone fix-it guys in a mall and he said the LCD and the external glass are glued together and even to replace just the glass he would replace the whole assembly as the use of a heat gun etc isn't that easy.
His estimate was: 250 or so for the LCD+Glass assembly, 30-40 bucks for his fixing charges.
I thought it better to recoup some money by selling the broken phone and getting a new one.
Riz
Yes, i would've done the same as you, people will pay as much sometimes for things needing repair because they are either stupid or want a challenge.
But you expressed surprise at the speed your phone sold & for the sake of others reading this i felt it may be worth pointing out the huge price difference between the two scenarios.
Glass like ebay item 170939616778 & others with a little device for getting it Unglued are on eBay & instructions for fitting are plentiful on You Tube.
Yes, all Repairers tend to advise a complete assembly simply because its really quick & easy to get right & most importantly some charge the $250 & then just fit a new glass
Pat. said:
Yes, i would've done the same as you, people will pay as much sometimes for things needing repair because they are either stupid or want a challenge.
But you expressed surprise at the speed your phone sold & for the sake of others reading this i felt it may be worth pointing out the huge price difference between the two scenarios.
Glass like ebay item 170939616778 & others with a little device for getting it Unglued are on eBay & instructions for fitting are plentiful on You Tube.
Yes, all Repairers tend to advise a complete assembly simply because its really quick & easy to get right & most importantly some charge the $250 & then just fit a new glass
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Some of the ebay listings for the outer glass came with big bold warnings stating chaging the glass is not a simple job etc etc, I don't mind getting my hands dirty to do a bit of tinkering, but, with the warnings, I thought best not to bother. About a year ago, I was in Pakistan, and there, ANYTHING can be fixed - these guys in the small shops in the electic market are magicians, I had a Galaxy S2 at that time and the screen was a bit scratched - I inquired at quite a few shops, and they all said, they can do it, but its fraught, and if its only some scratches, then I should just live with it.
Nevertheless, the speed with which the damaged phone sold makes me wonder maybe the Note ii isn't THAT difficult to repair.
sleebus.jones said:
The 7100 will get HSPA+ on AT&T (3G) because they operate HSPA+ on 1900 MHz.
You will only get 2G on TMO, because their HSPA+ is on 1700 MHz, which is not supported by the note 2.
TMO is slowly moving their HSPA+ service to 1900 MHz, which IS supported by the note 2, but the move will take until middle of 2013. (This is the reason why AT&T iPhones going to TMO network never got 3G, it was on the wrong band for those phones. One day those apple folks will be really happy when the switch is made, because they will suddenly get 3G service.)
You won't get TMO's "4G" 42mbit service even when the 1900 MHz switch is complete because the radio in the note 2 doesn't support it. 21 is as fast as it goes.
Overseas, the most popular bands for 3G are 900 MHz and 2100 MHz, both of which the 7100 supports.
I wouldn't waste time with the 7105. LTE is not widely used in europe, and when it is, it is very expensive.
Hope this helps! I just bought a 7100 in preparation for travel/relocation to London, so I did a fair bit of research.
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I'm actually not at all bothered with LTE - decent 3G speeds are more than enough for what I use the phone for. I'm not going to be using it for dowmloading ISOs etc, so, yeah, even if its restricted to 21mbps HSPA, that theoretical rate is still 4 times the DSL rate I used to get in Scotland and was enough for me. My stay in the US is limited anyway; so, a US specific LTE device would be kind of lost on me anyway.
If you're in London, see if you can get Virgin cable broadband - UK DSL, even with ADSL2+ is mostly sucky.
Riz,
I agree, 21mbps is going to be plenty fast enough for me. Thanks for the heads up on Virgin cable! I'll have to see what availibility is in the area that I'm going to be.