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For my 3000 post, I figured I would do something special for those of us fresh into TMOUSA's crappy 2 year contract (and for those thinking about it).
We all drooled and drooled consistently until TMOUSA came out with the HD2. There is a catch though, it is through TMOUSA. Many people have reported crappy service (cell-wise) and flat spots for data coverage (3G areas turning into Edge, turning into GPRS, into no-data). On top of that paying $450 for a device is not exactly appealing either ($199 sounds like a much better deal after all). I have been thinking about it long and hard and I came up with the perfect mathematical solution for getting a cheaper HD2, sticking to TMOUSA cheaper plans (or leave TMOUSA altogether), and not paying for such crappy data plan/coverage. If you are like me, you are surrounded by an accessible Wifi signal about 70-80% of your waking day, so being forced to pay $30 per month is borderline stupid.
[highlight]Edit: My method is only for brand new devices. A lot of you are suggesting cheaper solutions by buying them off eBay or craiglist, which will come with the added risk of device malfunctions or scams. If you feel adventurous enough to go down these paths... by all means. It usually works out better in the end anyways. But this method ensures a brand new device, that you will get on the spot.[/highlight]
Without Further Ado, I give you the "Scr3w You Very Much, TMOUSA" Method...
Getting HD2 without contract from the store:
$450
Cheapest Unlimited voice only plan from TMO: $49.99 (without contract)
Cost over two years: $49.99 * 24 months = $1199.76
Getting HD2 with contract from the store:
$199
Cheapest Unlimited voice + Data (they will force you into this) plan from TMO: $89.99 (2 year contract)
Cost over two years: $89.99 * 24 months = $2159.76
Cost to get out of the contract (option available only after 15 days from establishing a contract - aka remorse period): $200
Difference in phone price (with and without contract difference):
$450 - $199 = $251
Cost of breaking Contract and Keeping New Phone: $199 + $200 = $399
so we are saving $50 right off the bat (remember that the no contract price is $450, so $450 - $399 = $51)
Plan Cost:
$2159.76 - $1199.76 = $960 savings over two years
Total Savings over 2 years ($960 plan cost savings - $200 early cancellation fee + $50 for savings versus purchasing HD2 @ full price)= $810
You may think "but I still need internet" on the road... simple answer to that too:
Internet package from non contract plan = $25
Internet package from contract plan = $30
Savings over 24 months contract = $120
May not seem like much, but when you add that to the $240 from the unlimited voice plan difference (49.99 w/o contract vs $59.99 w contract), it adds to $360 for the life of the contract, plus you can leave them dry at any point you want...
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I hope this is useful into deciding if you are getting a HD2 but don't want TMOUSA as your carrier or simply don't feel like paying a lot to them.
Good to know for us tmobile users my friend.. i'll stick it as requested.
But there are those of us who actually need more than the basic services.
My business requires me to have unlimited minutes, texts, and e-mail access at all times.
So, over all, T-Mobile is cheaper than At&T or Verizon.
But I do see your point.
$30 a month for 3G internet service does seem a bit too much, when I pay the same amount for 4G (Clear Wireless) at home.
I would much rather opt out of TMOUS 2 year contract and jump ship to AT&T/Verizon/Sprint...
TMOUS has the absolute WORST service...
I guess you forgot the %35 Bing cash back when you shop online and pay full price! $300 with no contract is the best deal
Funkyrocemz said:
I would much rather opt out of TMOUS 2 year contract and jump ship to AT&T/Verizon/Sprint...
TMOUS has the absolute WORST service...
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Depends on where you are...they work quite fine in many major areas.
This does make sense. But then again it doesnt. Think about it!
Tmobile sells it on a 2 year contract for $199.
Walmart sells the samething (online) for $99 plus theres many coupons foe $25 off. So thats $75 on a new 2 year contract. Walmart also pays taxes.
Thats $75 vs. $450+ tax.
Now let me get to the point. If you want data+text+500 minutes. Its 59.99 on even more plus. Vs. $79.99 on contract.
So thats $20 more a month.
Heres the catch. If you cancel your contract after 6 months. The fee goes from $200 to $100 per line.
So lets add this up.
Buy the phone for $75. Add ($20 extra a month for 6 months= $120). And then add another $100 for the contract cancellation. Thats a total of $295.
So $295 vs. $450+ tax. Which sounds like a better deal?
After you cancel the contract. Just sign up for even more plus..
As an alternative (I did that personally), buy one get one free from T-Mobile promotion ... and pay $200 + tax for TWO HD2 phones. Activation waived.
So you pay $214 (in FL) for 2 phones.
Then you pay for 2 weeks of cheapest service (around $70) and cancellation fees of $400 for 2 phones
Total loss: $684
And you eBay your 2nd HD2 for $500 (around 450 after all fees)
You get your new shiny HD2 for $234 and you did not even extended your contract yet
Don't Forget HTC has extended the turn in a old phone and get 50.00 on top of that with teh purchase of a HD2, G1, etc... I think till May 19th
recyclerebates.com/htcWebQuote.do;jsessionid=B386A281A1471313D8E724CBA74DD8B4
joshkoss said:
Good to know for us tmobile users my friend.. i'll stick it as requested.
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Thanks a lot josh!
Always a pleasure hearing from you, my friend!
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But there are those of us who actually need more than the basic services.
My business requires me to have unlimited minutes, texts, and e-mail access at all times.
So, over all, T-Mobile is cheaper than At&T or Verizon.
But I do see your point.
$30 a month for 3G internet service does seem a bit too much, when I pay the same amount for 4G (Clear Wireless) at home.
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You may think "but I still need internet" on the road... simple answer to that too:
Internet package from non contract plan = $25
Internet package from contract plan = $30
Savings over 24 months contract = $120
May not seem like much, but when you add that to the $240 from the unlimited voice plan difference (49.99 w/o contract vs $59.99 w contract), it adds to $360 for the life of the contract, plus you can leave them dry at any point you want...
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Internet with the cheaper plans is cheaper ($5 a month cheaper to be more precise)
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I guess you forgot the %35 Bing cash back when you shop online and pay full price! $300 with no contract is the best deal
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It isn't as much as I forgot, but rather I had no idea about it (then, again, I have never used Bing)
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This does make sense. But then again it doesnt. Think about it!
Tmobile sells it on a 2 year contract for $199.
Walmart sells the samething (online) for $99 plus theres many coupons foe $25 off. So thats $75 on a new 2 year contract. Walmart also pays taxes.
Thats $75 vs. $450+ tax.
Now let me get to the point. If you want data+text+500 minutes. Its 59.99 on even more plus. Vs. $79.99 on contract.
So thats $20 more a month.
Heres the catch. If you cancel your contract after 6 months. The fee goes from $200 to $100 per line.
So lets add this up.
Buy the phone for $75. Add ($20 extra a month for 6 months= $120). And then add another $100 for the contract cancellation. Thats a total of $295.
So $295 vs. $450+ tax. Which sounds like a better deal?
After you cancel the contract. Just sign up for even more plus..
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Wow! I had no idea Walmart sold these... I bought mine at Best Buy (had a $70 coupon from Rewards)
I was looking at this option and it is done through "Let's Talk"... and they do have their own set of rules (apart from TMOUSA)
$200 LetsTalk instant discount
Purchase select T-Mobile phones online or through our customer service department and receive a $200.00 instant discount when you activate new T-Mobile service on a plan of $59.99 per month or higher and in conjunction with any feature or bundle or any other plan option at least $30.00 per month or greater. This exclusive offer is limited to select online retailers and is not available in any stores. Certain rate plans may not apply. This promotion applies only to individual plans or line 1 to line 2 of a family plan and requires a (2) two-year service agreement.
Offer Qualifications and Restrictions:
Cancellation of this purchase option within the first 61 days of activation will result in a $100 penalty charge.
Customers who add a qualifying feature after their service has been activated by LetsTalk.com are NOT eligible unless the feature is activated by LetsTalk.com directly.
If the customer receives their phone and the qualifying data feature is not active, the customer must contact LetsTalk.com directly to have the feature added in order to avoid a chargeback.
If the customer receives their phone and wishes to add the qualifying feature to take advantage of the offer, the customer must contact LetsTalk.com's Customer Service center and LetsTalk.com must add the qualifying feature through their activation system.
Customers who contact T-Mobile directly to have the qualifying feature added to their accounts post activation will not be eligible for this offer.
The customer may not change the feature activated by LetsTalk.com through T-Mobile's website, call center retail stores or any other T-Mobile agents or representatives and must maintain the same qualifying feature selected at the time of purchase for 61 days in order to avoid a deactivation chargeback.
If the customer wishes to change to a different qualifying feature they must contact LetsTalk.com directly and LetsTalk.com must change the data feature directly otherwise the customer may be liable for a chargeback.
LetsTalk.com imposes this chargeback solely to recoup plan feature commissions deducted by T-Mobile.
Phones Eligible for this Promotion:
Samsung Behold II (T-Mobile), HTC HD2 (T-Mobile)
Qualifying Plan Features for this promotion:
Android Unlimited Web, Android Unlimited Web for Flexpay, myTouch Unlimited Web, myTouch Unlimited Web for Flexpay, BlackBerry Unlimited Web, BlackBerry Unlimited Web for Flexpay, BlackBerry Unlimited Web w/Enterprise Email, BlackBerry Unlimited Web w/Enterprise Email for Flexpay, Sidekick Unlimited Web, Sidekick Unlimited Web for Flexpay, SmartPhone Unlimited Web, SmartPhone Unlimited Web for Flexpay
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But you are absolutely correct about everything you are saying... There will be various methods for doing this (which result in different savings) based on personal usage of the features of the plan. In my case, (as I explained in the first post) I don't really need internet 24/7 on my device since most of my waking time, I am in areas where wireless is available, so for me this translates into at least saving $30 per month (without accounting the fact that the unlimited voice is $10 cheaper as well), and here is the thing why I posted this. Remember that having internet when you are in a contract is not an option, it is a requirement... there is no way out of it unless you break your contract or pay full price for the phone. I figured this way to be cheaper for my usage type.
Maybe I will change the title of this thread to "Ways of Getting a Cheaper Device and No Contract" or something like that. I appreciate your input on this
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As an alternative (I did that personally), buy one get one free from T-Mobile promotion ... and pay $200 + tax for TWO HD2 phones. Activation waived.
So you pay $214 (in FL) for 2 phones.
Then you pay for 2 weeks of cheapest service (around $70) and cancellation fees of $400 for 2 phones
Total loss: $684
And you eBay your 2nd HD2 for $500 (around 450 after all fees)
You get your new shiny HD2 for $234 and you did not even extended your contract yet
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Not bad, but why would someone pay $500 for a device on eBay (assuming shipping is included), when they can buy it brand new, from the store, no contract needed for $450?
alooohaboy said:
Don't Forget HTC has extended the turn in a old phone and get 50.00 on top of that with teh purchase of a HD2, G1, etc... I think till May 19th
recyclerebates.com/htcWebQuote.do;jsessionid=B386A281A1471313D8E724CBA74DD8B4
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I just checked it out and in order to do this, you have to have proof of purchase (receipt or UPC box label). I have a 7 year old Wallaby bought in eBay, a 5 year old Blue Angel, 2 0.5 year old Vogues (soon to be 4), soon to have a Tytn, and a Wizard (which I sold, but for the sake of argument, I will throw it in as well).... I cannot use any of these devices for that since I have no way of providing them with proof of purchase (and this happens to be the case for a lot of htc device owners around here).
It is a good resource to have though. Thanks for sharing.
Just spoke to LetsTalk customer support. aka Walmart $99 purchase.
They'll give you the phone for $99 but if you break the contract within 6 months, you'll have to pay $250 disconnect fee to LetsTalk in addition to the $200 charged by T-Mobile.
I went to a Sams Club last week and they had it for $142 + tax. The guy there said I can keep my existing plan (family plan and $25 android data plan).
So my plan is to buy the phone from Sams Club. If I like it, I'll stay on the new 2 yr contract and if I don't I'll break the contract after 30 days and sell it on craigslist (ebay charges a lot of fees).
I've been waiting for a good android phone for a long time (my contract on the G1 got over more than a year ago. But since T-Mobile is not getting any good androind phones, I'll try WM 6.5. Microsoft wins and Google loses. The last WM device I used was an MPX200. I would have bought the Nexus One if they allowed me to add it to my family plan with a discounted rate.
before u go getting phones at contract discount and canceling. you may want to read this http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1634784
basically says tmobile will start blcking IMEI's of phones from canceled contracts. I dont know if its legit but i just bought a HD2 from ebay and now im paranoid anyone heard of this?
Edit seller assured me thats not the case for me but still thats kinda scary.
kcaj32 said:
Just spoke to LetsTalk customer support. aka Walmart $99 purchase.
They'll give you the phone for $99 but if you break the contract within 6 months, you'll have to pay $250 disconnect fee to LetsTalk in addition to the $200 charged by T-Mobile.
I went to a Sams Club last week and they had it for $142 + tax. The guy there said I can keep my existing plan (family plan and $25 android data plan).
So my plan is to buy the phone from Sams Club. If I like it, I'll stay on the new 2 yr contract and if I don't I'll break the contract after 30 days and sell it on craigslist (ebay charges a lot of fees).
I've been waiting for a good android phone for a long time (my contract on the G1 got over more than a year ago. But since T-Mobile is not getting any good androind phones, I'll try WM 6.5. Microsoft wins and Google loses. The last WM device I used was an MPX200. I would have bought the Nexus One if they allowed me to add it to my family plan with a discounted rate.
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This is true!
But if you plan on keeping the phone for atleast 181 days, then lets talk will remove the fee (plus tmobile will only charge $100 per line). This would be the best decision for someone looking to keep the phone and not sell it anytime soon.
mrbox23 said:
before u go getting phones at contract discount and canceling. you may want to read this http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1634784
basically says tmobile will start blcking IMEI's of phones from canceled contracts. I dont know if its legit but i just bought a HD2 from ebay and now im paranoid anyone heard of this?
Edit seller assured me thats not the case for me but still thats kinda scary.
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I guess this would apply more to being careful about buying the phone from 3rd party (places like ebay, craiglist, etc)
joefx13 said:
This is true!
But if you plan on keeping the phone for atleast 181 days, then lets talk will remove the fee (plus tmobile will only charge $100 per line). This would be the best decision for someone looking to keep the phone and not sell it anytime soon.
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I spoke to T-Mobile too. Their policy for canceling 2 years contract is:
If you have more than 180 days from the end of the contract, you pay $200.
If you have more than 90 days but less than 180 before contract ends, its $50, and less than 90 days for contract to end, you pay $25.
But yes, I agree that someone who plans on keeping the phone for 2 years, its a good deal.
I got the email from sprint regarding the evo release date and pricing. The phone will be 199.99 with 100.00 mail in rebate. The plan will be 69.99 or business plan of (starting at) 59.99 PLUS a data buy up plan for 10.00 on top of the plan. I think this is bull crap. Let me know how you feel about this $10 bucks extra for having this phone. I dont really care about 4G especially since its not available in my area
joshuadb20 said:
I got the email from sprint regarding the evo release date and pricing. The phone will be 199.99 with 100.00 mail in rebate. The plan will be 69.99 or business plan of (starting at) 59.99 PLUS a data buy up plan for 10.00 on top of the plan. I think this is bull crap. Let me know how you feel about this $10 bucks extra for having this phone. I dont really care about 4G especially since its not available in my area
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imon an unlimnited everything plan atm so 10 $ more a month is nothing for a beast of a phone
What, is an additional ten dollars a month too much for you to pay? AT&T and Verizon both charge a LOT more for their plans.
Compared to Verizon and ATT, I'd take Sprints 4G network and unlimited data use for 10 dollars more. Thanks.
$10 for a true UNLIMITED data plan?? Definately well worth it. Im on the Everything Unlimited plan, so my plan wont change with the EVO, I will still have Unlimited everything, and also a wifi hotspot. AWESOME!!!!!!!
$10 is $10 so I would rather hold on to it in my pocket.......but it looks as if I will be paying it, NP
joshuadb20 said:
I got the email from sprint regarding the evo release date and pricing. The phone will be 199.99 with 100.00 mail in rebate. The plan will be 69.99 or business plan of (starting at) 59.99 PLUS a data buy up plan for 10.00 on top of the plan. I think this is bull crap. Let me know how you feel about this $10 bucks extra for having this phone. I dont really care about 4G especially since its not available in my area
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Well according to the poll, the only one that sucks here is YOU!
Now go take your garbage to the android forums so you can get a hug!
joshuadb20 said:
I got the email from sprint regarding the evo release date and pricing. The phone will be 199.99 with 100.00 mail in rebate. The plan will be 69.99 or business plan of (starting at) 59.99 PLUS a data buy up plan for 10.00 on top of the plan. I think this is bull crap. Let me know how you feel about this $10 bucks extra for having this phone. I dont really care about 4G especially since its not available in my area
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The 10$ isn't just for 4G. It's for premium services. Ask anyone on ATT, VZW, T-Mo if they would like to pay 10 dollars extra for truly unlimited data, with no cap and see what they say.
The plan will be 69.99 """OR""" business plan of (starting at) 59.99 PLUS a data buy up plan for 10.00 on top of the plan... Keyword being OR... If you're not on a business plan don't worry about it...
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The plan will be 69.99 """OR""" business plan of (starting at) 59.99 PLUS a data buy up plan for 10.00 on top of the plan... Keyword being OR... If you're not on a business plan don't worry about it...
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Incorrect. Its 10 dollars on top of any plan for the Evo.
Of course I'm going to pay it! I'm not going to let a $10 increase stop me from getting the best handheld device available in the US.
I've been a Sprint customer for 12 years and price increases every couple of years are common. Phones get progressively more complex and data demands increase. When I went from a smart phone (Fuze) to a PDA phone (Diamond) the required plan increase was $10. That was 2 years ago so I am actually relieved that the increase for the EVO is ONLY $10.
Im trying to think of all the stuff i waste $10 on a month........p0rn, wendys, etc.....
swaze said:
$10 for a true UNLIMITED data plan?? Definately well worth it. Im on the Everything Unlimited plan, so my plan wont change with the EVO, I will still have Unlimited everything, and also a wifi hotspot. AWESOME!!!!!!!
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wifi hotspot will cost you an additional $29/month, btw
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wifi hotspot will cost you an additional $29/month, btw
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Until we get root. Or we can USB tether and share over WiFi.
yes but i'm not happy about it
I just made sure with my Sprint rep... ;-) Even Dan Hesse himself said no additional cost durring CTIA this year... I have talked to two different reps on this issue because customers were asking me the same thing... The 59.99 is for the Sprint Business Advantage Messaging and Data then you pay the 10 extra bringing it up to the 69.99, or... If you're already a Sprint individual consumer account on the 69.99 Everything Data Plan, the Evo is covered... They claim there is nothing in there system under the Everything Data Plan for such a feature and have not been notified of that feature even being added... They are currently on a 4 week training course gearing up for launch and nothing had been said...
I went to best buy and pre ordered one device. I was going to get two but with the extra $10q the wife will inherit my hero instead.
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I just made sure with my Sprint rep... ;-) Even Dan Hesse himself said no additional cost durring CTIA this year... I have talked to two different reps on this issue because customers were asking me the same thing... The 59.99 is for the Sprint Business Advantage Messaging and Data then you pay the 10 extra bringing it up to the 69.99, or... If you're already a Sprint individual consumer account on the 69.99 Everything Data Plan, the Evo is covered... They claim there is nothing in there system under the Everything Data Plan for such a feature and have not been notified of that feature even being added... They are currently on a 4 week training course gearing up for launch and nothing had been said...
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I think your Sprint rep is wrong.
http://jbtaylor.posterous.com/more-detail-on-the-sprint-evo-4g-10month-prem
Do price increases suck? Yes. Is Sprint still cheaper than the competition and probably raising prices because they've been bleeding money for years? Yes. You can't really compare this to, say, cable companies who just raise prices because they can (having monopolies in many areas and all). Especially considering sprint is introducing cut-rate prepaid plans (a blackberry for $35/mo with unlimited text and data?), it's hard to complain about their flagship phone/network costing a little extra. If you want cheaper options, they're out there, but you won't get an EVO on them
The ONLY problem I have with the plan is that initially it was said (in various places) that there was not going to be an extra charge. As a matter of fact, it was even said in one of the early videos of the phone...
Hey guys, I was just wondering how much you guys pay for the data plan? I heard T-Mobile has an unlimited Android web plan for $20, does that include the HSPA+ network? I also hear some people getting it for $10 saying it's a really crappy phone. Also will the g1 data plan work for the g2's hspa+ network?
Thanks!
As far as I know there are three available data plans.
$10 should be the regular plan for basic phones, not smart phones
$20 should be for the phones that support wifi but have a 5gb limit before throttling
$30 should be the android data plan with the hrsp+ deal and I've heard that you can hit 10gb before tombile considers throttle your speed
That's just based on what I've read on forums and junk.
Thanks for the reply, oh man $30 a month for HSPA+? Looks like I'll just stick with the $20 after a month or two. Thanks!
and if you buy a phone at full price, the cheapest data plan can be $25 (no unlimited text). the cheapest call plan is $29.99.
actually, if you make 2-year contract, the cheapest total plan will be $79.99? month-to-month is $25 cheaper a month over next 24 months. so total 2 year saving will be about $600.
it can cover the full price of phone.
in addition, you can add/drop data plan anytime and they charge daily proportion of $25. if you are usually just home/office where wifi is there on weekdays but going out of town on weekend, you can add data plan online on friday and cut on sunday.
moreover, even if you don't have a data plan, you can access to the internet for $1.99/MB for emergency.
and T-mo has no interest installment. if you buy G2 now, you pay $70+ for first payment + tax, then start paying $25 from january for 19 months.
Thanks for the reply, MassimoM2! Sadly, I can not get the contract as I might switch carriers any time. The emergency $1.99/MB is interesting, I have a g1 without a data plan, and it tells me I will need a data plan to use the internet.
My main plan is to buy it for the full retail price and see whichever is the cheapest way to get internet. Looks like I will get the 24.99 plan since I already have text, thanks!
Hey guys I know that the bill is cheaper bit searching I can not find anything current how much cheaper
BrianDigital said:
Hey guys I know that the bill is cheaper bit searching I can not find anything current how much cheaper
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It's $20 per month cheaper IF you get your plan switched to the Even More Plus contract-free plan.
It's not cheaper automatically, as far as I know, if you're on a current contract rate and don't ask for the change...
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It's $20 per month cheaper IF you get your plan switched to the Even More Plus contract-free plan.
It's not cheaper automatically, as far as I know, if you're on a current contract rate and don't ask for the change...
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i would be coming into tmobile with no contract so it would not be cheaper
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i would be coming into tmobile with no contract so it would not be cheaper
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No, it would be cheaper.
If you're not currently a T-Mobile customer, and you buy the phone contract free and at an unsubsidized price, you can ask for the Even More Plus plan, and you will get a rate that is $20 per month cheaper than people who buy the phone for $199 with a two year contract pay per month.
The Even More Plus plan is not available online any more, you have to go into a T-Mo store and ask for it specifically... I'm not sure Best Buy can/will offer it to you.
What I did with my Nexus One was go into a T-Mo store and buy the sim card before my phone even came in, then just plugged the sim into the phone when it was delivered.
I pay $59.99/mo for 500 talk minutes, unlimited text and unlimited web AND I'm not tied to any contract (well other than the monthly contract). You still get free nights and weekends and all that good stuff.
No reason to not buy the phone at full price and unsubsidized, unless you don't want to fork over $580 all at once. In the long run it's a better deal.
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I pay $59.99/mo for 500 talk minutes, unlimited text and unlimited web AND I'm not tied to any contract (well other than the monthly contract). You still get free nights and weekends and all that good stuff.
No reason to not buy the phone at full price and unsubsidized, unless you don't want to fork over $580 all at once. In the long run it's a better deal.
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This
also $59 off contract and when on contract it comes to $79
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also $59 off contract and when on contract it comes to $79
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Nice so the data only sim will be like thirty a month, On sprint I use about 60 minutes a month(data is another issue) and with gizmo5 and gv is going to be how I make my few random cell phone calls
distortedloop is correct; T-Mobile's pricing is such that plans are marginally less expensive if you are not on contract.
BrianDigital said:
Hey guys I know that the bill is cheaper bit searching I can not find anything current how much cheaper
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Just so you know, ALL Nexus S's are sold unlocked. The word you're looking for is "unsubsidized", or full price.
People have been saying that Even More Plus (no contract) plans are $20/month cheaper than Even More (contract) plans. This is only partially true. The Phone+Text+Data plans are $20/month cheaper. Phone+Text (no data) plans, and data only plans, are $10/month cheaper.
The general Even More Plus plans are not available online (with the exception of the data only plan which I linked above). You'd need to go to a T-Mobile store (or call customer service) to get the general EM+ plan.
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+1, yes you will save in the long run
I was in a loyalty unlimited plan ($84.99) for 2 years with my G1. Wanted to save more in the long run so I opted for the "non-contract" Even More Plus Plan ($59.99). I had to call Customer Care to be able to change my loyalty unlimited plan. So in 2 years similar to signing a 2 year cotnract, I save $250.
Like others suggested, buy the sim card for the Even More "Plus" plan for $59.99
and just buy the phone outright.
Even More Plus is really only beneficial for single lines. If you have more than one, it's not worth it.
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Even More Plus is really only beneficial for single lines. If you have more than one, it's not worth it.
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Why's that? The cheapest Talk+Text+UnlWeb family plan is $30/month cheaper on EM+ than on EM. And the savings increast with the higher-minute plans.
where are you guys seeing EMP plans? i thought t-mobile got rid of them, i certainly can't find it on their site.
I'm still in contract with my G1 plan. $79.99 with unlimited talk/text/data.
bcl0328 said:
where are you guys seeing EMP plans? i thought t-mobile got rid of them, i certainly can't find it on their site.
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they don't, you have to call Customer Care and ask for it, I believe they are being phased out
Nexus MC said:
they don't, you have to call Customer Care and ask for it, I believe they are being phased out
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I work at a T-Mobile COR store and this seems to be the plan in the next few months.
ichan444 said:
I work at a T-Mobile COR store and this seems to be the plan in the next few months.
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I'm actually surprised that T-Mobile is still offering it. I would have thought they stopped offering them as of now.
ravidavi said:
Why's that? The cheapest Talk+Text+UnlWeb family plan is $30/month cheaper on EM+ than on EM. And the savings increast with the higher-minute plans.
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Current Plan:
Even More 1500: $79.99
Data Plan (2): $40
Unlimited Family Messaging: $20
Two phones: Free til 2012
Total: $140
Even More Plus 1500: $119.99
Data Plan (2): Included
Unlimited Family Messaging: Included
Two phones: $10
Total: $130.00
That's only $10 a month cheaper for EMP. When I have to start paying the other two lines, it'll be $20 a month cheaper...which is the general consensus that EMP saves ($20/month).
$20 a month for 22 months = $440.
Now go to upgrade your phones. I need two smart phones and two regular phones.
Even more: Free (2 Vibrants, 2 Gravity T)
Even more plus: 2 Vibrants at retail ($400? each) and 2 Gravity T at retail ($175? each) = $1150 (this may be a high estimate) - $440 (savings) = $710
The difference I save each month on EMP does not offset the price I have to pay to buy phones outright.
BrianDigital said:
Nice so the data only sim will be like thirty a month, On sprint I use about 60 minutes a month(data is another issue) and with gizmo5 and gv is going to be how I make my few random cell phone calls
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Data only sim is $50. It used to be $30
HotShotAzn said:
Current Plan:
Even More 1500: $79.99
Data Plan (2): $40
Unlimited Family Messaging: $20
Two phones: Free til 2012
Total: $140
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I must be missing something. On T-Mobile's website, the EM1500 plan with unlimited txt + data is $160/month. Is your plan maybe part of some special? Or do you have 4 of the $10/month (200MB cap) data plans?
From your description, it's tough to tell whether you have 4 lines or 2 (since you say "once I have to start paying for 2 lines").
I realize we're kinda sidetracking the main thread here ... I'm just curious about your plan for some reason.
I'm confused to no end...
I got a message from t-mobile, saying that my flexpay with 500 minutes and 5GB data plan, for which I pay $60 in total, will expire (actual message below). I have an unlocked Nexus One (and a single line) that I don't want to change; I use like 80-100 minutes, 2-3 text messages, and about 5GB of data with it in a month...
Can someone help me?
I don't understand whether I can stay with Flexpay or whether it will actually expire for good (and take the $50 I have $50 my flexaccount too --they're used when you overuse minutes).
Customer reps on 611 refuse to send me any documentation, don't tell me whether my plan will actually get cancelled or not, and pretty much act like they don't know anything and are reading from a script written for existing flexpay customers. (I'll be going to a store, but I don't trust them either. Me being a foreigner doesn't help...)
I'm looking at the options they provide (their plans online), and if I keep my 5GB data plan, everything that they have is more expensive... As in: their $50 "postpaid" plan includes 100MB or so data before getting throttled...
Could anyone suggest what I should do to keep a plan that costs $60 or less without sacrificing my $50 on that stupid flexaccount[1]?
[1] The $50 is leftover from having a long-distance (as in cross-pacific) relationship... Don't do it
[Message from t-mobile:
Response requested: your Flexpay rate plan will expire. Call 611 to update your account & get 1200 bonus minutes. Call 611 for details.]
Help? Please?
Thanks
Same problem - Cancellation of T-mobile Flexpay plan
Even I got a call few days ago and recently got a SMS stating that Flexpay plan will expire. Not sure if I can still continue? I dont want to be bound by 24 month contract. Either I might switch to pay as you go plan or switch to another provider.
Let me know if there any updates or work around here!!
Thanks!
AFAIK all flexpay plans WILL expire and you have some options....
1) Enter into a contract and go with the VALUE plans (cheaper monthly charges, NO SUBSIDIZED DEVICES)
2) Enter into a contract and get a regular postpaid plan (higher monthly charges, DEVICES AT SUBSIDIZED PRICES)
3) Pay as you go prepaid plans including a monthly option (I think...kinda like flex-pay)
http://prepaid-phones.t-mobile.com/monthly-4g-plans
I just got on a contract for a Value plan with two lines and it's quite possibly the most awesome thing ever.
I get:
1000 shared minutes
unlimited SMS
2GB of data per line
... for $95 + tax/fees/etc, per month. For two lines.
I had to buy the phones outright, sure, but the overall savings is significantly greater than had I gone on a "standard" contract with the device subsidy. Two lines on a standard contract, same 1000 shared minutes and SMS and data, would have cost $35 more per month (+ tax/fees/etc).
Before I was on an individual Even More Plus plan (which has been phased out, just like Flexpay) and paid $70 + tax every month, and my partner was on a Flexpay plan and paid $75 + tax every month. Of course, those plans had 5GB data, but we weren't actually using the 5GB--the 2GB option hadn't been created yet, and even when it was first formed, it wasn't any cheaper.
Now, seriously, we're getting cell service almost as cheap as a regional carrier with better devices and better service.