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Q. about And. 2.2 install on the X10

Hey everyone
I have tried to search the forum about how to install the 2.2 on the X10. Or even the 2.1
So my question is, if there's someone who know the easy way or if it is at all possible?
I am also wondering if the Fryo update for the Nexus one can be used, and then what with the SE functions, will the camera still work and at what resolution.
Kindly
Simon
Denmark

its not fully rooted.. bootloader still to go.. then 2.1 or 2.2 will depend on the chefz who cook the custom rom.. correct me if im wrong!
not sure about the camera resolution and stuff but I'm sure having android 2.x wil give us hd recording and 16M screen..
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Thanks
Well thats just to bad right now
But i hope the people soon get it working. If i can install Android 2.2 on my x10 before Iphone 4 comes to Denmark. I will donate the money i've put aside to buy the iphone 4, and postpone the buy to the second shipment to Denmark...
Well i just gotta have the iPhone. I'm a Apple fan yes
Looking forward to installing Fryo, when its possible.
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Simon

You'll be an Apple fan until you realise you can't hold it the way you're used to or the screen goes yellow. Look up Iphone 4 issues online before you buy it
POS in my opinion, but I'm an Apple hater.

Well, i suggest for you to take of your Apple goggless off, and open your eyes... Im not saying that iPhone is crap, but by the issues the first ones are having, i rather wipe ass by the money then spend it on iphone...
So, i suggest for you to wait few more months that they fix the problems... But like you sayd, your apple fanboy, so you would buy red brick by 1000$, if they call i it iphone
http://www.riemurasia.net/jylppy/media.php?id=72293&c=11
EDIT: And no, Im not Apple hater, or fanboy... Just can't see point spending 500$ on mobilephone, that cant be used for calling...

Mobzter said:
its not fully rooted.. bootloader still to go.. then 2.1 or 2.2 will depend on the chefz who cook the custom rom.. correct me if im wrong!
not sure about the camera resolution and stuff but I'm sure having android 2.x wil give us hd recording and 16M screen..
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It IS fully rooted. 'Rooting' is when you gain linux 'root' permissions, and can do whatever you want with the system. It is even more so than with Windows, because you can't change the windows kernel, but you can with Linux, on which everything is run.
If you want a froyo rom, just wait. A method is probably being worked on jerpelea, Bin4ry, Maryland Cookie etc. In fact they are trying to get a custom kernel running which will allow us to do this. Just look at some of the threads on the X10 Android Development section.
I'm not as knowledgeable as the devs here, but I try to do some research so I can at least partly understand what is going on, and learn some things along the way.
Sorry about the rant...

Hi fellow X10 users ! first time question here on the forum. Is there anyone who has installed 2.2 on the x10?!

Are you kidding ? Can you read ? It is impossible to have Froyo on X10.
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It is unbelievable...people can write but can't read
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No offense, but do people not do even a little research about their phone before they buy it?

That is why he is sn apple fan. Wikipedia classify apple fan as
1. Idiots that doesn't reseach
2. People who want to get ibto the crowd by hlding up his iphone
3. Rich people who throw money down the sink
4. Brainless zombie
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ozd said:
No offense, but do people not do even a little research about their phone before they buy it?
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Annoyingly, most people don't...
That's why so many people still bought the iPhone 4, with it's signal problems. The problem is not terrible, but it shouldn't have happened - function should always be prioritised over form.

wrongfeifong said:
That is why he is sn apple fan. Wikipedia classify apple fan as
1. Idiots that doesn't reseach
2. People who want to get ibto the crowd by hlding up his iphone
3. Rich people who throw money down the sink
4. Brainless zombie
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You know what's twenty times worse than an Apple fan?
An Anti-Apple fan.
Seriously, who gives a crap what others like. Doesn't make them "brainless zombies" or "idiots that don't research." People tend to buy things that they want. Don't try to justify yourself by putting others down, it makes you look far worse.

iead1 said:
You know what's twenty times worse than an Apple fan?
An Anti-Apple fan.
Seriously, who gives a crap what others like. Doesn't make them "brainless zombies" or "idiots that don't research." People tend to buy things that they want. Don't try to justify yourself by putting others down, it makes you look far worse.
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no it doesnt. hes right

we are going waaaaaay off topic....again.
it is strange how we end up always talking about that ****ty Iphone
We are talking about the Iphone more than the X10, on a X10 forum.
Hhmm strange...

What annoys me the most is not whether you are an Iphone fan or not, but not researching and asking questions that are obviously, not answerable.
Does anyone really think that there is some secret society keeping everyone else from knowing if an upgrade is available? In this age of instant news, I bet the moment the X10's program loader is hacked, the news will instantly spread and custom roms will soon show up.
...and before people ask whether other phone's Roms can be used once the program loader is hacked, the answer is no. It takes a lot of experimentation just because of differences in the hardware.
I guess I am tired of reading this question over and over again.

I'm glad the x10 doesnt have a dedicated keyboard made the x1 far to chunky and i never used it. Anyone remember the full qwerty keyboard that you could plug into the bottom of the T18 & T28 it was quality

tris1979 said:
I'm glad the x10 doesnt have a dedicated keyboard made the x1 far to chunky and i never used it. Anyone remember the full qwerty keyboard that you could plug into the bottom of the T18 & T28 it was quality
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Well the X10 Mini Pro (with a hardware keyboard) is only like 1mm thicker than the regular Mini...

Another dissapointed user - another phone

here appeard many posts like this and sadly I have to say that I want a different android phone, defenetly not SE. They are losing their customers.
What other phone would you recommend? I was thinking about milestone xt720. Maybe there is something more interesting?

Instead of spamming these boards, why don't you go to a board where you can get answers unobjectively. Also, SE already got your money, they don't care if you sell the phone.
These threads are useless and must be deleted at all costs.

iead1 said:
Also, SE already got your money, they don't care if you sell the phone.
These threads are useless and must be deleted at all costs.
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+1! I can understand the frustration, but don't get why people are selling their phones right now, that's just cutting your nose off to spite your face imo.

Well I got rid of mine because I've had enough of SE dragging their heels, I'm running 2.2 on my HD2 and its the best move I have made tbh.
I know SE already have my money, but I didn't see the point of sticking with something I wasn't happy with.
I know its only a phone at the end of the day and all the normal stuff worked, its just SE's policy on providing support, Ohh its ok the users who gave us there hard earned cash can wait for their update as we already have their cash.
I hope the devs can do somethin with the X10 as it is a cracking piece of kit and not worthy of running 1.6.
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Hows that desire HD rom

Here's a thought:
Instead of venting on this board where X10 users and hobbyist developers gather to exchange ideas why not send a wellformulated email to something like SE sales or SE's customer services? Most of us here have no connection to SE other than owning one of their phones. Some of us don't even have a choice and couldn't switch if we wanted to.
Coming here to vent won't really do anything other than piss people off which is kind of counter-productive. Even if some here agree with your views there's not a lot we can do other than trying to do the best we can with what we got.
If you hope to accomplish something or even get SE to recognize your problems then the best way is really to write a proper message to SE explaining your stance. It's a long-shot but there's always a chance that they will listen to the critique and act on it.
*****ing to us X10 users helps no one, most of us don't even care and it just takes up your time.

Just create a thread for all these complainers about leaving their phone yada yada yada. Simple.

I agree, if you don't like then leave and join other forum for the phone you want.
Most phone manufacturers are concern about making money and that is business so no choice.
Leave us alone here as there are some of us who still like our X10 including myself.

chongbh said:
Leave us alone here as there are some of us who still like our X10 including myself.
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Hear, hear. Even though we're stuck on 1.6 for now I still love the display and design of the hardware.

ddewbofh said:
Hear, hear. Even though we're stuck on 1.6 for now I still love the display and design of the hardware.
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Yes, we like and love the phone not because it has updated OS but it is the phone hardware and specs which makes us attracted to it.
Even if the phone is updated with the latest OS like 2.2 or even 3.0 but the outlook of the phone don't look nice or the specs of the hardware is not advance, holding the phone don't makes us feel good as well.
It is the same like cars, even though your car is powerful but the design of the car do not look good, less people will buy it.
Just my sharing.

kubbek said:
here appeard many posts like this and sadly I have to say that I want a different android phone, defenetly not SE. They are losing their customers.
What other phone would you recommend? I was thinking about milestone xt720. Maybe there is something more interesting?
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xt720 is nice but is older than X10.
Slowe CPU too.
And Motorola is locking their devices too.
If you want to switch, at least go to a HTC where you can play with them as much as you want.
The bad part, HTCs are ugly phones

I'm seling my X10 to go for a Captivate.
I know the camera is worse, but at least the bootloader is already hacked so CM6 is the way to go.

tuxStyle said:
xt720 is nice but is older than X10.
Slowe CPU too.
And Motorola is locking their devices too.
If you want to switch, at least go to a HTC where you can play with them as much as you want.
The bad part, HTCs are ugly phones
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Calling them ugly is a bit harsh imo, non-descript is a better name for it. They're basic and they don't stand out. They're sort of like the VW Passat, the design is perfectly fine but also very forgettable at the same time.

iead1 said:
Instead of spamming these boards, why don't you go to a board where you can get answers unobjectively. Also, SE already got your money, they don't care if you sell the phone.
These threads are useless and must be deleted at all costs.
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Delete these threads? Why? Coz you love your x10?
Well good for you, but others don't and this is a forum for discussion and people should be allowed to give negative opinion on a product that has not been delivered as promised.
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jayman1986 said:
Delete these threads? Why? Coz you love your x10?
Well good for you, but others don't and this is a forum for discussion and people should be allowed to give negative opinion on a product that has not been delivered as promised.
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You're right. This board is for discussion. However, do they require a new thread each time?
Hmmm.. you guys obviously wouldn't care much assuming you don't donate to the board to help maintain it. I bet if you did you'd care much more about people who posts useless threads like this.

jayman1986 said:
Delete these threads? Why? Coz you love your x10?
Well good for you, but others don't and this is a forum for discussion and people should be allowed to give negative opinion on a product that has not been delivered as promised.
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I'm pretty sure all the features that were promised on the the box are working fine. Don't get confused with the ramblings you hear on the internet, they are the wants of users, not the promises of se.
I want features such as froyo, 16 million colours, flash etc. as much as anyone, but such things were never promised. And lack of 16 million colours isn't aproblem, you would be hard pressed to see the difference, unless you have a fascination with looking at colour gradients. And no multitouch, even though it has been denied as a feature countless times is a blessing. If there was multitouch you can say goodbye to using the phone one handed. Multitouch gestures are stupid, pointless and annoying.
So if you want to sell your phone, then godspeed to you. But please don't complain to other users that enjoy theirphone, just because you didn't research properly what this phone is capable of.
No offence intended, this is an open discussion and that is my point of view, if you can show evidence of broken promises then be my guest. Delay in 2.1 update doesn't count, release dates for software slip, its a fact of life. Deal with it.
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ddewbofh said:
Calling them ugly is a bit harsh imo, non-descript is a better name for it. They're basic and they don't stand out. They're sort of like the VW Passat, the design is perfectly fine but also very forgettable at the same time.
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IMO a dogs backside could design something more attractive than a desire lol
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Why do some people think others care if they got a new phone LOL. I bet the honeymoon will last no more then a few weeks with their new device, then they will complain about some issues they have with it.
Sony has made some stupid moves IMO but whatever company you go to the situation will be the same. At most you will get one major update and some bugfix updates.

I blew off alot of steam about how the 2.1 update wouldn't even include 16m colors...I then got really pissed about SE delaying our 2.1 update til October. I for sure said some things out of anger....but one thing I remember clearly is that I ditched a Nexus One running 2.2 (froyo) for my X10. I loved my Nexus One, it was truly amazing....but something about the X10 pulled me to it. I find with my X10 I love it more and enjoy it much more than the Nexus One. That said, I know SE pissed alot of people off..including myself....but there's no need to ditch a phone that you know you loved because SE delayed the update. Honestly look at it this way, is your phone going to die? will it not live for another month until 2.1? will you die? can you just give your phone the chance of running 2.1 before you are so quick to judge....maybe just MAYBE!! SE are being secretive about something in the update...maybe not. But I have a damn good feeling when 2.1 drops to the X10 some people will be coming back to it....because SE will get there **** together and really deliver on this. If im wrong, then you can flame me. People have just a little more patience for the update.
just my two cents

NightSidew1nd3r;
So if you want to sell your phone said:
Well firstly he's not specifically aiming it at people who are happy with their phone, cox there are many who are unhappy.
And research properly before you buy?- like I replied to another SE fanboy on another thread, I bought my phone in March and SE did not make anything clear when phone releasing the phone- everything was rumours. And at that time all mobile phone sources were hinting an update to 2.1 before summer.
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Are SE really all that bad?

I've only ever used mobile phones before.. Never been into the technology, so the whole firmware update thing never really concerned me too much..
Just read this on the htc legend forums..
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I think you are missing the point here. HTC are VERY slow at releasing updates for their phones. If they cared about their customers just a little bit more, all 2010 models would have Android 2.2 now. And yes, we expect updates to be released. Could well bee that updatet products are of no interess for you, but for others that have experienced HTC for years now, we are starting to be tired of all the delays.
It's a shame HTC have no real competition, the day they do you can be sure customers will not accept this **** any more.
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Suggests htc aren't really any better than SE!
So maybe things aren't so bad after all..
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Maybe its just that people love to hate. Still, we don't see htc missing deadlines do we..
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SE is not bad, they can't keep up with their promise. This is not the first time as same thing happened with X1 and X2 as far as I experienced it myself. SE is awesome but it could be even better, way more!

The difference is that pretty much all(?) HTC's are running at least 2.1 at this point, and increasingly more are getting 2.2. Also, HTC spends more time working on their software than on locking down the phone, so most(all?) phones can be flashed with custom ROMs.
HTC owners are mad about being behind in firmware, and SE owners are just mad about being slightly further behind...

i think they make great phones(hardware) but there programmes and programmers(software) is just plain bad, when our great dev team get us custom roms we'll have great software to go with our great hardware!
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Difference is that HTC are reasonably commited to providing up to date OS for their phones. Where as SE won't even commit to 2.2. We are over a year behind, HTC owners complain about being a month or two behind, HUGE difference. Additionally, HTC tend to have relatively easy to crack bootloaders or even provide unlocked bootloaders for some phones. Unlike SE, they don't invest time in perfecting the DRM and locking out the customer; same goldcard method has been available for years. They do JUST enough to cover their corporate butt, but don't go out of their way to stop you voiding your warranty. SE FOCUS on locking the customers out and retaining control of their hardware, PS/PSP made them very, very good at it; they are much better than Apple for example - put it this way, the iPhone is a more open device than our SE phones. I'm never buying another SE product again, in fact, the vineyard I work at was offerred a bunch of X10s by vodafone as upgrades for our staff; I made sure we went with iPhones instead. Ok, it was only six sales SE lost - but it made me feel a lot better. ;-)
ballubas said:
i think they make great phones(hardware) but there programmes and programmers(software) is just plain bad, when our great dev team get us custom roms we'll have great software to go with our great hardware!
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A) their programmers are actually very good, just that they are trying to stop us doing what we want.
B) The reality is, we may NEVER be able to get custom roms. There are formidable obstacles in our way and SE are very good at DRM. The dev community is very small compared to HTC, and miniscule compared to the number of people working on jailbreaking Apple's products

You do have a point.
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YES SE MAKE ME ANGRY
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Actually no, they are not bad at all. Just because they delayed an update doesnt make them bad. I had quite a few SE phones before this one and they were always amazing phones in their time like the w810 and k850i. SE phones are reliable and very well built with very good spec and features. I have always trusted SE phones and will continue to. A lot of the people here talk out of their ass, but just watch when SE come out with their next super device all those people that say never again im buying SE phone will be the first ones to get it. Its always like that. For a first android phone i think they did an amazing job. The phone is a machine, tough, stable, reliable with great spec and the best camera in the market. So my opinion is they are not bad at all.
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The best camera?
I dont get the point Have you ever compare the picture captured by x10 with an HD2 one? I dont think we are having the best camera fone on the market (smart phone only).
I like the design of x10, i like its specs also, but i dont like the software (OS) and the way SE treat their customers.
And with 65k color, my screen cannot show a perfect color of an widget, such as Power Widget ( it's look like was shown on a cheap mobile screen). Haiz

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And with 65k color, my screen cannot show a perfect color of an widget, such as Power Widget ( it's look like was shown on a cheap mobile screen). Haiz
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Why are you judging the screen quality based on a widget? Sometimes the graphics are of low quality. Try using SpringPad widget or Recodroid widget. They look perfect. ;-)

Seriously, half of you idiots actually realize this phone was announced september 09.
It was released like Jan or Feb. This phone is first targeting the Japanese audiences, not you americans nor europeans at first. I am pretty sure the japanese might have this phone a lot more early.
Now back to the point, why are you comparing to a phone that is already 1 years behind the competitiion. THIS is AN OLD PHONE.
Do you still get update on your w810 or whatever? NO, old phone don't update themselves. You either get a new phone to go with your little friends on their pursue for "greater numbers" or join Iphone community where no one will complain about thier OS.
Let SE does their own job, if you don't like the phone, for god saken, thrash it or sell it and do yourself a favor, buy a new phone. I am sick of reading thread every time i open this link to see more "SE sucks and such".
Are you guys like some 5 years old kids complaining about their toys not being the latest? Geez, get off the forum already.

From usability & build quality standpoint SE is not bad. The problem IMO is the x10 has a why the hell did they do that factor. Why the hell is SE taking so long to release 2.1? Why the hell is the 2.1 upgrade only supporting 65k colours instead of 16m? Why the hell did SE leave out MT hardware support? It doesn't matter if you find any of these features useful what does matter IMO is that SE's rivals have these features.

This is se's first android phone so they started with nothing. HTC's first androids were craptastic. But now that HTC have their software developed they can release 10 new phone a year and only have to adapt the software a little. Se will get better with their software it just takes time.
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After no updates,X10 Insulted by SE team

http://blogs.sonyericsson.com/products/
look at the video how they showing that not only software, X10 camera sucks as well..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtBZOXiASQk&feature=player_embedded#at=70

lol... no matter what phone u use it will get outdated in a year . and it wasnt a insult of any sort . it was a comparison. why dont u compare u r phone camera with other phones in its same time line ( have same release dates)
Most people are sick of such kind of posts. avoid them pls!

I suppose your glass is half empty then?
Should every product improvement be considered as an insult to those who bought the older version?
Nothing would ever progress if manufacturers considered that.
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jags_the1 said:
lol... no matter what phone u use it will get outdated in a year . and it wasnt a insult of any sort . it was a comparison. why dont u compare u r phone camera with other phones in its same time line ( have same release dates)
Most people are sick of such kind of posts. avoid them pls!
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yousure it will be outdated in 1 year?? I might say in less than that
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I suppose your glass is half empty then?
Should every product improvement be considered as an insult to those who bought the older version?
Nothing would ever progress if manufacturers considered that.
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it shouldnot be considered as that but we have to remember that the 1st version of anything is always going to suck and tht we'll be disappointed of it

Its not about new phone,its all about attitude..
do u see apple,HTC showing that see our iphone4 or htc desire 4..5 whatever can do this now see this our old phone iphone 3gs or desire can not do this....
so all those who got our older phone are bunch of fools coz their phone cant do this...
X10 is indeed one of the powerful machine out there in the market,but highly under rated,and seeing the attitude by SE towards it...it just makes every X10 user what big mistake they did by buying it...
if not support the X10 users,atleast dont insult them

kunalgahlot said:
Its not about new phone,its all about attitude..
do u see apple,HTC showing that see our iphone4 or htc desire 4..5 whatever can do this now see this our old phone iphone 3gs or desire can not do this....
so all those who got our older phone are bunch of fools coz their phone cant do this...
X10 is indeed one of the powerful machine out there in the market,but highly under rated,and seeing the attitude by SE towards it...it just makes every X10 user what big mistake they did by buying it...
if not support the X10 users,atleast dont insult them
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I never considered it a mistake buying Rachael 0.o
But... I kinda feel bad cos I'm starting to ogle at her sister... T_T

X10 is not old enough to retire..not even a year old,that it is being boycotted by the company and users..so please don't give the reason that it is old now so company and no one should care about it

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You are honestly trying to say that sony ericsson shouldn't market the fact that their new phones are better then the current one?
so many companies do it. When HD was coming on they were showing quality differences and how bad the old quality is. I guess you'll say how bad they are for that too.
Or how graphics card companies compare new and old generations?
Or cpu manufacturers? Or car makers?
It's not like sony ericsson are the only ones...
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I don't think having an upgraded camera is an insult. It's not like the camera sensors are exactly the same. You'd have a point if they were though.

Findee said:
You are honestly trying to say that sony ericsson shouldn't market the fact that their new phones are better then the current one?
so many companies do it. When HD was coming on they were showing quality differences and how bad the old quality is. I guess you'll say how bad they are for that too.
Or how graphics card companies compare new and old generations?
Or cpu manufacturers? Or car makers?
It's not like sony ericsson are the only ones...
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Indeed. It's just strategy marketing just to make ppl buy their latest products. Every company in the world does that, so don't just blame SE.
But now, let's see why all this debating: the X10 isn't old, 'cause it doesn't even have a year since its release and 'cause its hardware specs. still can compete with another phones in the market. The problem is that ppl have the feeling that SE is trying to say "your X10 is old/obsolete/outated, trash it! Take some cash or your credit card and go to your nearest store, or call your service provider and request Arc/Neo/Play right now!".
That's the trouble. It depends of how much we let ourselves to be influenced by this or how we understand the message.

Im closing this thread
it does nothing to contribute to disussion

Thanks and goodbye

I would like to thank everyone who helped me with the x10 feedbacks, i know u guys did it to avoid me suffering on SE hands what u guys suffered. I sent the X10 package back, and paid the difference of an Galaxy S t959, that i think i cant go wrong.
I let my best wish for you guys, and at least u made SE lose one customer, even before buying the phone.
Thanks again. Ruben

Bye
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Sorry to hear the negativity scared you off It is a great phone.. I haven't used the samsung though so I can't comment, but at least you will probably actually get updates lol

Did you look at the Arc, or are you turned off on SE in general? Although you wouldn't know it by looking in the xda forums, but SE is supporting the X10 like any other Android. It seems standard in the industry that every Android phone gets ONE major OS upgrade, and other smaller ones along the way. The X10 just happens to have already gotten its update, while Android released two new updates in the meantime, making our new update already dated. Android shouldn't be releasing updates this fast in the future, and we've all (including SE) learned our lesson about getting a phone with a dated OS to start with.
Also, for future knowledge in the Galaxy forums regarding posting etiquette....You should have posted your farewell in the other thread you already started on this subject called "Hi", because this is not a new topic or discussion. Only start a new thread as a last resort.Especially ones that are not useful to other members. You may think you are saving yourself time by starting a new thread, but instead you are taking time from everyone else by filling the forums with more fluff for people to filter through.
Please don't take this the wrong way. Trust me, other people won't be as polite about it. In fact they can be rude and degrading, but the point is valid. In order for everyone to enjoy xda, we all need to do our part to keep it clean, organized, and useful.
For a full description of xda rules on posting read the stickie titled something like "Stop!!! Thinking about posting? Read this first!!! "

Goodbye. I'm sure your experiences with the Galaxy will be a lot better than what you would of have with the X10. However, it is for certain, once everything is cracked and sorted out, the X10 *will* be considered a great phone compared to others

If it weren't for XDA the X10 would be a pile of crap. Fortunately there are some great people here who have released much of the X10's potential, unlike SE.
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shoby said:
If it weren't for XDA the X10 would be a pile of crap. Fortunately there are some great people here who have released much of the X10's potential, unlike SE.
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If it weren't for XDA most of the devices would be crap, talking about my experience with Galaxy Tab and HTC desire
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if it weren't for xda most of the devices would be crap, talking about my experience with galaxy tab and htc desire
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Did you look at the Arc, or are you turned off on SE in general? Although you wouldn't know it by looking in the xda forums, but SE is supporting the X10 like any other Android. It seems standard in the industry that every Android phone gets ONE major OS upgrade, and other smaller ones along the way. The X10 just happens to have already gotten its update, while Android released two new updates in the meantime, making our new update already dated. Android shouldn't be releasing updates this fast in the future, and we've all (including SE) learned our lesson about getting a phone with a dated OS to start with.
Also, for future knowledge in the Galaxy forums regarding posting etiquette....You should have posted your farewell in the other thread you already started on this subject called "Hi", because this is not a new topic or discussion. Only start a new thread as a last resort.Especially ones that are not useful to other members. You may think you are saving yourself time by starting a new thread, but instead you are taking time from everyone else by filling the forums with more fluff for people to filter through.
Please don't take this the wrong way. Trust me, other people won't be as polite about it. In fact they can be rude and degrading, but the point is valid. In order for everyone to enjoy xda, we all need to do our part to keep it clean, organized, and useful.
For a full description of xda rules on posting read the stickie titled something like "Stop!!! Thinking about posting? Read this first!!! "
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How can u recommend Arc to an X10's unsatisfied user? both are basically the same and SE must be the loser here. X10 is a good phone probably yes but I cannot understand yet what happen to the idiot led light feature still not flashing like on my old nokia N80... Htc g1 was upgraded something from 1.5 to 2.2 passing through revisions and it seem 2.3 is next to be the released.... I'm trying to be realist nothing more. I've an x10 just because there wasn't option to buy another brand but I will never buy Arc even when SE would announce about permanent Os upgrades. If you want me to buy another SE device upgrade X10 first, then when it get outdated I will buy next generation Xperia may be dualcore or later.

xnewser said:
How can u recommend Arc to an X10's unsatisfied user? both are basically the same and SE must be the loser here. X10 is a good phone probably yes but I cannot understand yet what happen to the idiot led light feature still not flashing like on my old nokia N80... Htc g1 was upgraded something from 1.5 to 2.2 passing through revisions and it seem 2.3 is next to be the released.... I'm trying to be realist nothing more. I've an x10 just because there wasn't option to buy another brand but I will never buy Arc even when SE would announce about permanent Os upgrades. If you want me to buy another SE device upgrade X10 first, then when it get outdated I will buy next generation Xperia may be dualcore or later.
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He wasn't an unsatisfied user. He returned his X10 new after asking for advice here on xda. I myself said that while I LOVE my X10a, I wouldn't get one this late in the game unless he gets a new phone every 6 months because of how fast this technology is developing.
Thanks to the OP starting a new thread to say "goodbye", you missed the whole conversation in his other thread titled "Hi" started just a few days ago....
So too bad. This is not another bash SE thread, but good try

Once the bootloader is cracked, you will want an X10

agentJBM said:
He wasn't an unsatisfied user. He returned his X10 new after asking for advice here on xda. I myself said that while I LOVE my X10a, I wouldn't get one this late in the game unless he gets a new phone every 6 months because of how fast this technology is developing.
Thanks to the OP starting a new thread to say "goodbye", you missed the whole conversation in his other thread titled "Hi" started just a few days ago....
So too bad. This is not another bash SE thread, but good try
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It is never too late to talk about SE idiotic politics to get people scared to stay with them... You have suggested Arc and stated about every company is offering same upgrade service, it wasn't true, it was too bad and a mere good try.

xnewser said:
It is never too late to talk about SE idiotic politics to get people scared to stay with them... You have suggested Arc and stated about every company is offering same upgrade service, it wasn't true, it was too bad and a mere good try.
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Name one android that has gotten 2 major OS upgrades.

agentJBM said:
Name one android that has gotten 2 major OS upgrades.
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HTC Desire, launched with 2.1 is now officially on 2.2.1 and is about to get 2.3.

agentJBM said:
Name one android that has gotten 2 major OS upgrades.
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HTC G1 is on 2.2 right now and could get 2.3 soon...
Definitively HTC is the best android partner and next to be offered by my telcom...

if the bootloader gets crackd as we heard famous geohot working on it
http://www.xperiax10.net/2011/03/04/geohot-buys-an-xperia-x10-to-hack/
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il buy X10 again

xnewser said:
HTC G1 is on 2.2 right now and could get 2.3 soon...
Definitively HTC is the best android partner and next to be offered by my telcom...
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OK, well it's a first. HTC should be setting this new standard. They have the longest and best relationship with Google. HTC manufacturers phones for them.

I will say good bye to x10 if just know which phone better. Just have to wait for experts to review new arc,neo,pro.
GN Multimedia - X10i

And being picky.. Neither of those phones have yet had the upgrades you mentioned.. So the answer is still 'none'! HTC should be ahead of the curve though.. They've been in this game longer Than anyone else.
Sent from my X10 using XDA and Swype.

Moto Atrix
Smart man! As a consumer, you deserve freedom in the complete context and spirit of open source, even by law are supposedly guaranteed this right in terms of firmware, from ignition (power up the rom, boot load the firmware) to application functionality and presentation, you should be able to do what you will to YOUR phone, being it is an Open source device - primary selling point.
HTC, Motorola and others do this very well, so much better! Atrix has my money with the Tegra 2 dual core, 48gb storage, Gorilla glass, 1080p recording and playback and that awesome netbook to dock the device with running gnome abd from what I understand, virtual box and in effect, OS/X or Windows 7!
Stick your half pie camera and bravia marketing crap in your tight pie holes Sony! If I want a camera, I can get one that is a zillion times better than a phone for a lot less than your Arc, Neo, Pro or Play... haha ****a!
Sony lack vision to grasp open source. They have no place in Android and anyone with half a clue, knows this +1