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is it possible to connect my digital camera to my pda?

hi
I have a xda2 pocket pc with a 22pin(USB/Serial) interface.
is there any way to use the interface to plug in a multimedia card reader or a digital camera?
I want to be able to transfer my digital camera pictures straight to my pda.

I don't think so, I've looked into it, but from what I've found the XDA doens't have the right Hardware to act as a USB host, it can only act as a client. There might be some way to hook up a serial interface, but I don't know...
My camera has a 128MB SD card, and my XDA has a 1GB SD card so I'm sorted anyway

I dont think you can do that but if your camera uses cf cards it is possible to obtain an sd to cf card adaptor, you slot the sd card into the cf adaptor then slot the cf adaptor into the camera, when you wish to transfer pictures you remove the sd card from adaptor and place it in your xda. I dont know if this helps but here is the link.
http://www.dooyoo.co.uk/other-memory-adapters/minolta-sd-cf1-compactflash-card-adapter/1007358/

thank you

When I was choosing a camera, I looked for one that will use SD/MMC card. No problems with interface at all! SD card that came with camera was showing as full of normal, viewable JPEGs. There is a lot of free memory in XDA to serve as buffer between SD card and another SD card (we aren't talking about gigs of photos here )
If camera is already bought but uses CF, there is a "backpack" add-on device for XDA II which adds a spare battery, CF slot and VGA output. I have one. So CF card can be copied.
The only problem is that backpack is quite expensive - may be worth to change camera instead - they're getting cheaper each month.

The TyTN, Memory cards, and my camera...

Hey. This is my first post on the board - spent the last couple of days snooping round and searching as much possible. Just wandering if anyone can offer me a little bit of advice.
Basically I'm looking to get the TyTN once it finally comes out on t-mobile. Apart from the it being my first pda phone and every function looking like too much fun it would be really useful - at least every so often - if I could take photos off of my camera and email them off places.
I shoot a canon 30d - which takes compact flash type I and II.
The simplest? solution: would be connect the camera (or more practically a card reader) by usb to the phone. From what I read the wizard and the universal do NOT support usb hosting - and as far as I can find neither does the TyTN.
Next best solution: compact flash to sd adapter. Which does not exist. Either due to lack of demand or the laws of physics.
Final - well if its the only way, its the only way - solution: sd to compact flash adapter. Use sd cards in my camera when I reckon it'll be useful to transfer them to my phone. Only issue here is write speed. But considering the buffer on the 30d is about 30 jpegs (or 9 jpeg/raw simultaneously) it shouldn't be a huge problem...?
Are there any other solutions? And are my presumutions correct?
Thanks!
James
(I'm a little bit technically stupid on pda phones - but I am a physics student and should really catch on quite quickly...honest)

I think you've pretty much got it down.

hmm...I've just had a thought.
micro sd --> sd --> compactflash.
That's surely going to hugely lower write speeds and make everything a wee bit sketchy?

I'm going to give this a go< i've got a canon 1D mk2 which has an SD slot aswell, I'll see what happens and report. I usually use my dell Axim X50v with my phone in a tight spot without my macbook but the tytn has more ram than the Axim so it may handle the files better.

It works, I set my 1D mk2 to backup shots taken on the CF card and copy them at the same time to the SD card (micro SD adaptor) then took it out the camera put it in the Tytn 2 and go to file explorer and view the images then attach them to an email, sadly I can't do this with my canon 5D but then again the files are a lot bigger anyway so it would be slower with bigger attachements on my emails.

Can i get a XD card reader for my tilt

Hello,
Sorry if this question seems silly, but is there any way i can connect a card reader for the xD format to my phone. I have looked for adapter, and could find none. I looked for reader that are bluetooth enabled, but it looks like they only act as a dongle. So i guess my question is can i get an adapter that will alow me to plus a USB device (a card reader) into my phone. Is there a better way to do it?
Thank you

Would something link this work??

I don't believe Windows Mobile allows the connection of a removeable storage device through USB.

Next best thing might be to get a MicroSD card reader that has a USB port on it. Then simply plug the MicroSD into your Kaiser, and into the adapter when you wish to pull files from other sources.
SanDisk has such a device called the MicroMate.

I am sorry, it seems i wasnt clear enough in what i wanted to do. I have a camera that takes an xD card. I would like to get the pictures from the camera to the phone without need a computer. I know i can do that if the camera took SD cards, I can get microSD card with SD adpters. My question is there any way i can do that or something similar to it with an xD card.
Thanks again

silver7x said:
I am sorry, it seems i wasnt clear enough in what i wanted to do. I have a camera that takes an xD card. I would like to get the pictures from the camera to the phone without need a computer. I know i can do that if the camera took SD cards, I can get microSD card with SD adpters. My question is there any way i can do that or something similar to it with an xD card.
Thanks again
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I googled about a bit, and the only adapter I could find for XD cards was to Compact Flash. Maybe buy a new digital camera that uses MicroSD?

yeah i saw that same reader, and i looked into a different camera, but i really like the Olympus cameras, and they only take xD

never seen such a device maybe because an converter would be pretty fragile as microSD is tiny compared to XD

Well other solution is try to get a micro sd card converter to XD card. I mean the XD card adapter that you can put your micro sd card inside and place it on your camera to take a pic. This is what I do on my camera, but I am using a sd card camera.

Yup, Thought about that, looked everywhere, and it looks like they just dont make it. i think it has something to do with who owns the IP on the xD card (Fuji, I think) and who owns it on the SD card (Sandisk I think).

Transfering SDHC Content to Touch HD

Guys,
I'm soon going on a trip to the Lake District (UK National Park) and will be doing a lot of climbing/hiking/walking.
Whilst I am at the summits of certain 'Fells' I will be taking photo's with my Digital Camera.
At that point I want to transfer Photo's from the Camera to the Phone and send them directly from the Phone.
Problems I need to overcome:-
The Camera uses SDHC.
The Phone uses MicroSD.
Apart from the Phone there is no power source.
What do you think is the best way to transfer the Photo's to the Phone so that I can then send them over 3G?
Thanks in advance.

Why not use a Micro sd in a Micro SD to SD adaptor, that way you are storing the camera images direct to a micro SD card and can then just put that in your phone to send the images

alanwesty said:
Why not use a Micro sd in a Micro SD to SD adaptor, that way you are storing the camera images direct to a micro SD card and can then just put that in your phone to send the images
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The camera will not take an adapter.
Don't forget I won't have the option of using a computer.

Why will the camera not take an adaptor I have used these adaptors ina PC and they work just the same as if you had put an ordinary SD card in.

alanwesty said:
Why will the camera not take an adaptor I have used these adaptors ina PC and they work just the same as if you had put an ordinary SD card in.
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Can you show me which adapter will connect directly to a camera WITHOUT the need for a PC.
Surely you need the PC to transfer the data across?

You can get SD adaptors that are just the same size as an ordinary SD card with a slot in the end to fit a Micro Sd card. This means that they fit anywhere a SD card fits and appear like a SD card to the device they are fitted to. A search on google for "sd adaptor" will find one.

alanwesty said:
You can get SD adaptors that are just the same size as an ordinary SD card with a slot in the end to fit a Micro Sd card. This means that they fit anywhere a SD card fits and appear like a SD card to the device they are fitted to. A search on google for "sd adaptor" will find one.
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Yes but that would mean taking the photo's DIRECTLY onto the MicroSD Card.
I use high speed burst mode with my camera and that requires a fast SDHC Class 6 16GB Card.
You can not get a 16GB Class 6 MicroSD.
Although some will be released very soon the difference in price is quite high.
I'm trying to overcome having to chop and change cards between camera & Phone.
I am seeking a lead or something on this vein for transferring the data across.

Surely you're going to have to make some kind of sacrafice at some stage, either:
- Shoot on Class 2 MicroSD (via SD Adapter)
- Take laptop/netbook along
- Only other viable option is some kind of device that replicates SD to MicroSD without a PC - I don't think it exists.
You sound like your probably using a DSLR, have you thought about the time it will take to tranfer each photo over 3G, even assuming you can get 3G reception in the Lake District browsing the net on mine can be frustrating enough never mind uploading 4Mb photo's.
Oh and the power issue is pretty big! Have you got a windup/solar charger or a shed load of spare batteries?
Good luck though - it's a worthy cause

foaf said:
Surely you're going to have to make some kind of sacrafice at some stage, either:
- Shoot on Class 2 MicroSD (via SD Adapter)
- Take laptop/netbook along
- Only other viable option is some kind of device that replicates SD to MicroSD without a PC - I don't think it exists.
You sound like your probably using a DSLR, have you thought about the time it will take to tranfer each photo over 3G, even assuming you can get 3G reception in the Lake District browsing the net on mine can be frustrating enough never mind uploading 4Mb photo's.
Oh and the power issue is pretty big! Have you got a windup/solar charger or a shed load of spare batteries?
Good luck though - it's a worthy cause
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Thanks for the feedback.
Yes, I'm shooting with a couple of cameras (Big Nikon D2Xs & a small semi-pro Panasonic LX3).
The Nikon though uses CFII for storage and I aim to use this camera with it's heavy zoom lens at the foot of the fells.
The LX3 will be going up with me to the top this time as I've done the Nikon before (and what a weight it was).
The last time I had all my gear... Laptop, Mobile 3G, Solar Charger, etc. etc.
This time however I'm trying something different and want to go as light as possible.
I've got the new Proporta portable charger and this will give my Phone plenty of charge.
The LX3 has two spare batteries so that's not going to be an issue.
I did think about using a mobile hard drive like the Archos AV700 (which I have).
It requires no power source using cable alone and has USB Host.
However, it would mean more weight and cables etc.
I just wondered if there were another simple way I could achieve my aim.
I intend to transfer around 3 to 6 pics and appreciate what you say on the speed issue (agree fully) but I want to complete the task which will help in the review I end up writing.

Hi Beards,
I tried but don't have all the right cables to prove it.
I thought the USB on the HD would also behave as a master for storage - so I thought I could connect a USB to a SD converter and that would be the solution. BUT, I don't have a USB female-female connector. I do have a micro USB to USB cable and a USB SD convertor. My aim was to plug it all in and try - Sorry.
Maybe this will work for you with the SD card appearing (hopefully) as storagecard2 but I need the extra cable to prove it.
Only other issue I can think of is the pictures will be big so no MMS transfer will be possible. Only email attachments and then I think there might also be a limit.
Have a great trip !

Cheesy Dave said:
Hi Beards,
I tried but don't have all the right cables to prove it.
I thought the USB on the HD would also behave as a master for storage - so I thought I could connect a USB to a SD converter and that would be the solution. BUT, I don't have a USB female-female connector. I do have a micro USB to USB cable and a USB SD convertor. My aim was to plug it all in and try - Sorry.
Maybe this will work for you with the SD card appearing (hopefully) as storagecard2 but I need the extra cable to prove it.
Only other issue I can think of is the pictures will be big so no MMS transfer will be possible. Only email attachments and then I think there might also be a limit.
Have a great trip !
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Hi Dave,
Nice speaking with you again.
Thanks for the heads up, this sounds promising.
I've got a couple of weeks to try and sort it out so if you come across anything suitable do please let me know.
Been far too busy in theatre lately. This trip will make a perfect break.

Why not just use the camera's 50mb internal memory to copy from your cheap high speed SDHC card to the micro SD card in SD adaptor combination already suggested? Since you're only talking abut 3 or 4 photos it shouldn't be a great hardship, and you get to shoot the way you like.

shuflie said:
Why not just use the camera's 50mb internal memory to copy from your cheap high speed SDHC card to the micro SD card in SD adaptor combination already suggested? Since you're only talking abut 3 or 4 photos it shouldn't be a great hardship, and you get to shoot the way you like.
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I'm not taking 3 to 4 shots shuflie.... I'll be 'transferring' 3 to 4 shots to the Phone.
I will be taking around three hundred odd shots in total. I've then got to pick which will then be transferred to the phone.
It's an interesting concept though....
The MicroSD to SD Adapter keeps cropping up in topic here. So on basis this needs to be investigated further.
Edit:
I have just checked the Manual on the LX3 and it would appear this procedure can be done.
According to the Manual I can copy data from an SDHC card to Internal Memory and vice-versa.
So.... all I would need to do is:-
1. Pick from which shots require transferring.
2. Transfer them into Internal Memory.
3. Take out the SDHC Card with all the photos on.
4. Insert the SD Adapter with MicroSD card.
5. Transfer the selected Internal Memory shots on to the MicroSD card.
6. Take out the Adapter and MicroSD card from the camera and remove the MicroSD from the SD Adapter.
7. Insert the MicroSD card into the Phone and temporarily place in internal memory.
8. Take out the MicroSD card and replace with the correct storage MicroSD card.
9. On the Phone, transfer the shots from Internal Memory to the Storage card.
10. Send the shots over 3G.
Phew........ but at least it should work.

DSLR image sending via Touch HD
Hi Beards
I am a news photographer and do exactly this all the time.
There are sacrifices that pretty much have to be made.. you can't do everything you want without power and a laptop / or loads of extra kit.
The sacrifice is basically you cant shoot on class 6 cards you are stuck with the speed of the microSD. However.. we shoot riots, news, entertainment, etc in RAW mode on a Canon DSLR and unless we hammer it and motordrive loads of shots we dont have any problem with the slow microSD cards from SanDisk. I'm not sure what you plan to burst shoot but i would suspect if it serves us ok doing breaking news it should serve you ok up in the countryside. (unless you are doing motorsports or something )
Our workflow is this..
We shoot RAW images on the Canon EOS1D mk II on a SanDiskc 8bg microSD card in a SanDisk SD card adaptor.
We put the microSD card into the touch HD and use an application called Phojo http://www.idruna.com to extract the jpeg image from the raw file and email or FTP the image from our phone. Phojo has a lot of pro features that you may or may not need.. although it is commercial software so may not be something you want to invest in.
Of course shooting JPEG should mean you can shoot even quicker as the files are less than half the size of the raw images and you dont need Phojo to do the extracting of files. You can of course use the touchHD's built in email software then to send them by email if you wish. We recomment Phojo however because it is specifically designed for this application.
There are obviously other solutions.. you can get battery powered tiny USB transfer devices (belkin used to make one) that will transfer the content of one usb device (card reader / card) to another. However we havent had much success with these and they are fiddly.
Your needs match very much what press photographers do every day. All the ones i know do it by using the microSD adaptor / Phojo method (altho most dont shoot RAW they shoot JPEG) The ones who dont use the microSD method are either using a wifi transmitter made by canon or nikon on their camera and Phojo or they are using a PDA/Phone that supports USB host or SD cards.
Hopefully this helps
kind regards
Edward
Equinox Features
http://www.newspics.com

Newspics, that's really interesting. Great to see how the pro's do it.
I feel like there sould be camera's with built in capabilities to upload pics by now. Or at least Bluetooth 3.0 between the phone and the camera. Live Mesh does a pretty good job for me for syncing pics to my PC, if only it could sync between Camera, Phone and PC.

If you will have no access to a power supply how are you going to keep your phone charged?

BT flash card reader (portable)?

Hello!
I've been searching for a (preferably portable) bluetooth flash card reader, so it can be used to read/write files without opening the case of the f-ing phone (yes, I'm very pissed at the phone designer, who made flash card slot in Fuze under the damn lid, which hard to open with a chance find the battery on the floor = the dumbest thing I've ever seen)
Changing cards in the phone is only one of the problems, another problem is that I install most of the programs on flash card, and it might freeze the phone when it's changed.
Any suggestions?
Thank you.

Hi there,
Depending on the ROM you have, the bluetooth file explorer works exactly as you want. You can send / receive files over bluetooth from your laptop. I will warn you however, that this is an extremely slow process when working with files especially over the 10mb mark. If taking the chip out is the main concern, I advise you to get the USB cable and put the phone into Disk Drive mode. That mode is not quite as fast as taking the chip out and using it in a card reader, but it is still MUCH faster than bluetooth.
Feel free to PM me if you need help or further explanations

Thank you for the reply.
By portable I ment something much much smaller and much cheaper then a laptop...
Since designer of the photo camera I'm using was much smarter then HTC designer, the flash card can be easily be removed from it, and that where the files I need to transfer are from.
I've seen so many portable BT gps loggers, that look like a little box with a usb dongle sticked in (the box is battery), why not make something similar, but instead of GPS add flash card reader bult-in the dongle?
I mean it makes so much sense, but I failed to find anything even remotely close to this...
I still have my previous phone 8525, with a flash card slot outside, perhaps I could use that phone for now...as soon as I can figure out how to set up the bt link between the phones...probably will need update the rom on 8525..