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3D Holgram for Touch Diamond?

Heya all,
I have been looking at the iHologram app and it would be awesome to have one for the HTC...
http://adameatstilk.blogspot.com/2008/08/hologram-cat-on-iphone.html
Any Ideas?

hm...looks very nice and smooth, maybe just another fullscreen vid?

It is a fake - the designer only wanted to show a concept.

Heh, the designer did prove the idea that people think of Apple's devices as being allmighty and all powerful. Anyone wonder how the iPhone knows to whose direction this 'anamorphic perspective rendering' should be rendered? Or how it knows to render towards the videocamera instead of the cameramans eyes? How to do this with multiple people?
Somebody actually did this with the Wii, as you can use the remote control to 'localize' yourself.

It is not real!!! It is just an idea....
http://gizmodo.com/5041304/ihologram-3d-iphone-app-was-just-for-show-not-peek-into-alternate-world

to make this happen
you have to locate the sight of the user and only one user can experience the 3D effect. impossible to make it work on iphone or any ppc now (hardware limitation)
its funny but do not have that great value on the market

of course it´s a fake. how could the iphone detect moving itself around it´s own axis laying flat on the table? magical rotation sensor?

So I guess there could be a couple of problems:
- How do you tell the observer's perspective?
- Can the Diamond's g sensor tell when its rotated on a flat surface? (The lightsaber app doesn't seem to register much - but I will admit thats far from empirical testing )

Jamzb said:
So I guess there could be a couple of problems:
- How do you tell the observer's perspective?
- Can the Diamond's g sensor tell when its rotated on a flat surface? (The lightsaber app doesn't seem to register much - but I will admit thats far from empirical testing )
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Maybe eye tracking using front camera?
using the wii VR demo, I experienced that the effect is reached best when the screen follows the head/eye movement instead of the other way around.

Jamzb said:
- Can the Diamond's g sensor tell when its rotated on a flat surface? (The lightsaber app doesn't seem to register much - but I will admit thats far from empirical testing )
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It would need a gyroscope. But i never imagine a cellphone whit a 3axis acc so just wait six months or so

soundonly said:
to make this happen
you have to locate the sight of the user and only one user can experience the 3D effect. impossible to make it work on iphone or any ppc now (hardware limitation)
its funny but do not have that great value on the market
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It is not a fake. It is not magic. And no you don't need superduper hardware. It is actually working on iPhone, it assumes a fixed position of the viewer, that's why it works only for one viewer (at the correct angle). Read here about it: http://www.davidoreilly.com/blog/2008/08/ihologram-update/

Holographic effect
You can have a nice holographic effect without a gyroscope...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugoq8M2XxVE

faethon said:
It is not a fake. It is not magic. And no you don't need superduper hardware. It is actually working on iPhone, it assumes a fixed position of the viewer, that's why it works only for one viewer (at the correct angle). Read here about it: http://www.davidoreilly.com/blog/2008/08/ihologram-update/
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LOL - that link says this....
The iHologram app was not real. It was an illustration of an idea I had which I believe could work with the technology (combining anamorphosis and motion sensing). Unfortunately I’m just an ideas person, and I can show how things should look, but I’m no hardcore programmer.
I’d be happy to collaborate with a developer or studio who want’s to make it happen, I’m bursting with ideas for the interactive world, but right now all my attention is on filmmaking.
My aim with this was to tackle the problem of 3d viewing in an original way using current technology, not fool anyone… so for those who doubted but still supported it, respect. I hope it inspires some talented programmers out there.

gerDiamond said:
You can have a nice holographic effect without a gyroscope...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugoq8M2XxVE
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Thanks for the post, this is the way i assumed something like this could work.
In the 3d world, besides being on an axis, there are virtually unlimited points to perceive an object. This guys application simply assumes the user is watching from an axis perpendicular to the screen, which is how we as people usually look at any display.
This way, no matter how you tilt the phone, it can react accordingly to you looking down on it, with gravity below it.

gerDiamond said:
You can have a nice holographic effect without a gyroscope...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugoq8M2XxVE
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This is a nice ap!!!!

yeh that dice app looks nice

In the dice experiment, he shakes the phone, it isn't rotation. (I only say that for people who can think strange things xD)

I have seen the dice app on the iphone. It does look very very nice. I cant code but surely the Diamond can compete on ths level. ?

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=421806

Sorry but thats not even in the same league..

No Accelerometer In Touch Hd!!!

Conclusion: There IS Accelerometer, only they call it G-Sensor, thanks for all the feedback!
Dear fellows,
I was unpleasantly surprised to find that Touch HD does NOT have an accelerometer, rather only a G-Sensor. (Some more detail: Accelerometer is supposed to sense "acceleration," typically in all three dimensions x,y and z. With software support, orientation sensing can be done as one usage. G-Sensor is an inferior sensor that only gives information about orientation, no velocity/acceleration sensing). Although it can be argued that most typical uses are covered by G-Sensor (like screen orientation), but the key word is "most" Accelerometer is definitively more useful in gaming, and potentially other applications. I searched several other threads and found many people equating G-Sensor with accelerometer. I hope this thread can add some clarification.
To me it looks like another effort by HTC to cut on a few bucks. Anyway I still consider it as a minor setback to me in my overall enthusiasm for Touh HD Just missing one good argument to an iphone user (no iphone debate wars intended here )
Best regards.

waqarz said:
Dear fellows,
I was unpleasantly surprised to find that Touch HD does NOT have an accelerometer, rather only a G-Sensor. (Some more detail: Accelerometer is supposed to sense "acceleration," typically in all three dimensions x,y and z. With software support, orientation sensing can be done as one usage. G-Sensor is an inferior sensor that only gives information about orientation, no velocity/acceleration sensing). Although it can be argued that most typical uses are covered by G-Sensor (like screen orientation), but the key word is "most" Accelerometer is definitively more useful in gaming, and potentially other applications. I searched several other threads and found many people equating G-Sensor with accelerometer. I hope this thread can add some clarification.
To me it looks like another effort by HTC to cut on a few bucks. Anyway I still consider it as a minor setback to me in my overall enthusiasm for Touh HD Just missing one good argument to an iphone user (no iphone debate wars intended here )
Best regards.
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another victim fallen to the marketing gimmick of a "buzz word", accelerometer, despite its name doesn't necessary mean it must detect acceleration, iphone's accelerometer doesn't do that. none on the market do that. if in the future there's a similar device that can detect acceleration, then it may fall into the "accelerometer" category, or market people will create a new buzz word to highlight its features.
but g senor, motion sensor and accelerometer are the same thing as the market/technology stands now. i made the same mistake and was corrected as well:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=436592#7

buggybug0 said:
another victim fallen to the marketing gimmick of a "buzz word", accelerometer, despite its name doesn't necessary mean it must detect acceleration, iphone's accelerometer doesn't do that. none on the market do that. if in the future there's a similar device that can detect acceleration, then it may fall into the "accelerometer" category, or market people will create a new buzz word to highlight its features.
but g senor, motion sensor and accelerometer are the same thing as the market/technology stands now. i made the same mistake and was corrected as well:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=436592#7
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Thanks. Well if this is indeed true (that iphone and others also only have a G-Sensor) I dont think I can call it marketing gimik. It is plain dishonesty. An accelerometer is a well understood term, misusing it is... well!
But have you checked that for iphone. I will check that tomorrow with one colleague who has one. Wikipedia gives different info here, I quote:
"For example, Apple uses an LIS302DL accelerometer in the iPhone, iPod Touch and the 4th generation iPod Nano allowing the device to know when it is tilted on its side."
LIS302DL is indeed a full blown accelerometer, not just g-sensor! So lets recheck and compare our notes. Thanks for the feedback!

I think the proof is in the fact that you cant do anything with the Iphone's "accelerometer" that you cant also do with the HTC "g-sensor" If there was a fundamental difference in their capability it would have been exploited by now.

WILD9 said:
If there was a fundamental difference in their capability it would have been exploited by now.
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http://www.CarTrackApp.com/

fallenczar said:
http://www.CarTrackApp.com/
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And in response... [APP] gMeter for HTC Touch Diamond/Pro [Second release]

edit: damn beaten to it!

waqarz said:
Thanks. Well if this is indeed true (that iphone and others also only have a G-Sensor) I dont think I can call it marketing gimik. It is plain dishonesty. An accelerometer is a well understood term, misusing it is... well!
But have you checked that for iphone. I will check that tomorrow with one colleague who has one. Wikipedia gives different info here, I quote:
"For example, Apple uses an LIS302DL accelerometer in the iPhone, iPod Touch and the 4th generation iPod Nano allowing the device to know when it is tilted on its side."
LIS302DL is indeed a full blown accelerometer, not just g-sensor! So lets recheck and compare our notes. Thanks for the feedback!
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These two apps prove you wrong.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=431965
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=422662
Surur

surur said:
These two apps prove you wrong.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=431965
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=422662
Surur
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Wake up ppl, all these applications discussed above are using GPS signal in conjunction with G-sensing. So this discussion is not relevant to this topic!!
Doing some more digging here and the source code shows my first post is accurate. There IS a FULL LIS302DL accelerometer in iphone, and we are stuck with G-Sensor of HD.... means we cant "shake things around" literally.

waqarz said:
Wake up ppl, all these applications discussed above are using GPS signal in conjunction with G-sensing. So this discussion is not relevant to this topic!!
Doing some more digging here and the source code shows my first post is accurate. There IS a FULL LIS302DL accelerometer in iphone, and we are stuck with G-Sensor of HD.... means we cant "shake things around" literally.
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No they don't use GPS for Accel, it is impossible to measure short time Accell with GPS accuracy.
G-Sensor is just another Name for Accelerometer. Both Sensors (IPhone and HD) have nearly the same accuracy in there API, so if you look to the source of the IPhone you should also look at the Sensor-API of the HTC's ;_)).
So HD/Diamond/Raphael has not only a "Tilt-On/Off"-Sensor as you try to explain, it is indeed a "full"-Accelerometer. You could just install one of the mentioned Programs to prove that the indeed are measuring acceleration .
And if you are really interested you should look at: http://www.koushikdutta.com/2008/07/using-htc-touch-diamond-sensor-sdk-from.html
to learn how to program the Accelerometer.
BTW Gyroscope-Sensors are brand new, and no phone to date has one , the should be cheaper and more accurate as the today build in Sensors.

Rivendel is absolutely right. The applications wouldn't work without a proper accelerometer.
Originally, micromachined accelerometers would have been very expensive, but now there is so much demand for them that they can be bought for about a dollar in large quantity.

Rivendel said:
No they don't use GPS for Accel, it is impossible to measure short time Accell with GPS accuracy.
G-Sensor is just another Name for Accelerometer. Both Sensors (IPhone and HD) have nearly the same accuracy in there API, so if you look to the source of the IPhone you should also look at the Sensor-API of the HTC's ;_)).
So HD/Diamond/Raphael has not only a "Tilt-On/Off"-Sensor as you try to explain, it is indeed a "full"-Accelerometer. You could just install one of the mentioned Programs to prove that the indeed are measuring acceleration .
And if you are really interested you should look at: http://www.koushikdutta.com/2008/07/using-htc-touch-diamond-sensor-sdk-from.html
to learn how to program the Accelerometer.
BTW Gyroscope-Sensors are brand new, and no phone to date has one , the should be cheaper and more accurate as the today build in Sensors.
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OK, yes I guess you are right too; Pocket GForce register lots of Gs just moving the device sideways without tilting it much, so some measurement of acceleration is there. Then may be, HTC ppl should upgrade and call it accelerometer!

waqarz said:
OK, yes I guess you are right too; Pocket GForce register lots of Gs just moving the device sideways without tilting it much, so some measurement of acceleration is there. Then may be, HTC ppl should upgrade and call it accelerometer!
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Well G-Sensor does allude to acceleration if you take name to mean a sensor which measures G-Force....

G sensors and accelerometers are exactly the same thing.the former is more of layman and commercial term while the later is the more appropriate technical term.what it does is measure acceleration as its name suggest.this device can be position in any axis(x,y,z).a complete system should consist of 3 accelerometers in exact tangent to each other in those 3 axis so that it can sense vertical,horizontal and lateral accelerations.since acceleration is measured in "meters/seconds squared"the value of acceleration when integrated once will give u distance and when integrated twice will give u time.this is the basis of any stand alone navigation or guidance systems but it must be coupled with a 3 axis gyroscopic system to give attitude information.in the phone,the accelerometers measure the gravity force which has an acceleration of approx 10 m/s squared.the resultant output will determine the phone's orientation

it has an acceltomater, with diamonds vr hologram, if you lay it on a flat surface, and push it artound, it wil stil move

Rivendel said:
BTW Gyroscope-Sensors are brand new, and no phone to date has one , the should be cheaper and more accurate as the today build in Sensors.
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Some Nokia phones have had Gyroscope-Sensor for over year by now, it rotates the map in the navigating software real time when u spin around, its very handy when navigating by walking.

I think that's a digital compass in the Nokia phones. A lot of the recent ones don't have the compass though (N95, etc.)

? iphone 3gs compass like for wm 6.1 ?

can anyone make such app - or - anyone any clue were to get a compass for our win mobiles http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlKvW89Q7Z8

As a wm power user, you should know that a compass is hardware, not software

Fitz said:
As a wm power user, you should know that a compass is hardware, not software
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yea i thought about the gsensor aint that enough for te hardware part

Gsensors don't always point north...

well if u no of any compass's i can try via gps send me the site but would be beter if we got one like the assphone

Most higher end GPS units have "electronic" compasses. It is not just something that can be enabled through software, there needs to be a hardware component as well.
As a side note, my garmin vista Hcx has an electronic compass and it makes geocaching so nice

Like this?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=524294
Go to the link in the first post.

you may like this
http://htcdriver.com/index.php?page=richesse-GPS
and i also have such feature on my mapking GPS app

Any GPS app for windows mobile has a "Compass" by seeing which way you are moving and comparing that to north. A real compass can be stationary and point north more accurately. This is a hardware feature that no WM phones have. Maybe the Touch Pro 3 will have it.

Yeah, buy a real compass buddy. Its more accurately and never run out of battery and you never fear of losing GPS signal.
Oh, btw, I do have a real compass. and never use it.

Tomtom, GPS cycle, any navigation software would have a compass.
If that doesn't satisfy can always use the good old, sun rises in the east and sets in the west strategy. or go watch a few eps of Man vs Wild or survivor man and they'll show you how to find the direction.

rungvang said:
Oh, btw, I do have a real compass. and never use it.
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Exactly my thoughts. Who needs yet ANOTHER gimmicky app that has no real purpose? In my time on this Earth I have never needed a compass or ever even thought '**** I wish I had a compass for X task'. So why would we need a digital one in our pockets ?

The sun sets in the west and rises in the east. There's your compass.

Don't you guys sleep facing the north? After the sun has set, how do you align your salt and pepper accurately? The hardware component is a magnetometer, pigeons have them, get a pigeon!

No sorry guys, a compass can be usefuill for a lot of Apps like navigation or Games, and the IPhone ist the most powerfull mobile divice ever build compared with a stabil and smooth operating system and a gigantic and cheap Appstore with 50.000 Apps.
And half of the Apps here are just wannabe iphone-Apps.
Thats fact, and sorry that i must tell you the truth : Windows Mobile is ulgy, slow and not state of the Art.
this is a littel preview to demonstrate you the Power of the "old" iPhone 3G (the brandnew 3Gs is getting much bette/faster and has a graphics chipset similar to xBox)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWDDPAmZd5k
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3TeX4OCfLc

dickenz said:
Exactly my thoughts. Who needs yet ANOTHER gimmicky app that has no real purpose? In my time on this Earth I have never needed a compass or ever even thought '**** I wish I had a compass for X task'. So why would we need a digital one in our pockets ?
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I think lot's of people, of which you are probably one of them, don't have a clue to the purpose of the compass feature several new phones have. Apple clearly wouldn't emphasize on this feature if it were only useful to tell you where north and south are relatively to your location.
More and more apps are becoming available, which give you a view through the camera of your device, overlaying certain information, such as where the nearest ATM is, where you can find a particular shop, etc. (this technique is called Augmented Reality and it really doesn't work as good without a compass, as with a compass). There are a dozen apps available for Android at the moment using the build-in compass. That's where you need such a piece of hardware for.

Yes,
While going hunting I always take my compass, cell phone, gps, SUV, remington gun and a small atomic device...
You only need a compass if you are in the army. For night time LEARN the sky and if you get lost in the woods???during the day and need to go north??? for some reason than an application on a cellphone is the least of your problems

dickenz said:
Exactly my thoughts. Who needs yet ANOTHER gimmicky app that has no real purpose? In my time on this Earth I have never needed a compass or ever even thought '**** I wish I had a compass for X task'. So why would we need a digital one in our pockets ?
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Obviously you weren't geocaching yet . In the forest it can be quite difficult to say where the sun is (especially if the weather isn't that good), so a "real" compass could be really helpful. There are also a lot of other things a "real" compass is good for.
As far as I know the HTC Magic (running Android) has got one, hasn't it?
And please stop this "Iphone vs. WM" talk, I think it was covered so many times in so many threads already ...
I don't understand these people claiming that their Iphone is so much better, but actually they are using a WM device and using forums for WM devices. That's quite strange, isn't it?. My suggestion: Get an Iphone and let us enjoy our WM devices please!

Gyroscope

Hi,
So i have been doing some searching online and in the forums, and there seems to be mixed responses on if the vibrant has a gyroscope.
Some people say the compass + accelerometer act as a gyroscope. Some say it has a gyroscope like the iphone4 and some say it doesnt at all.
I heard android just included a gyroscope call in their API for Gingerbread.
Can someone clarify if the Vibrant really does have a gyroscope or not.
Thanks

I had a problem with it not to long ago and I was informed by T-Mobile that it was a gyroscope problem since it would only partially calibrate one axis. Nothing I tried was able to fix it since it was not a software problem it was a hardware problem. At the T-Mobile store I was able to have it replaced for free since I had the warranty ($5 p/month) and they concluded the gyroscope hardware related.
Hope this helps you

Tmobile usually have no clue the features on the phone. Just sayin
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A gyro involves spinning a mass around an axis. I'd be shocked if we had a gyroscope. ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gyroscope )
We have accelerometers.
Robert

I heard that Vibrant also has a Gyroscope, but it's not used for now.
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rmeden said:
A gyro involves spinning a mass around an axis. I'd be shocked if we had a gyroscope. ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gyroscope )
We have accelerometers.
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The classical type of gyroscope involves spinning a mass around an axis...Might want to read the rest of your wiki quote, as that's not the only type.
We have a MEMS type gyro, manufactured by STMicro...

masterotaku said:
We have a MEMS type gyro, manufactured by STMicro...
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I did read about MEMS, but since it keeps a "vibrating element", I didn't think Samsung would spend the battery to keep something vibrating. (granted, it probably is very small).

masterotaku said:
The classical type of gyroscope involves spinning a mass around an axis...Might want to read the rest of your wiki quote, as that's not the only type.
We have a MEMS type gyro, manufactured by STMicro...
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So I take it that means we do have a gyroscope comparable to the iphone. Can't wait for games coming out for gingerbread.
Thanks for the info.

US Moto G First Impressions, AMA

I just got an 8GB/1GB model Moto G XT-1540from BestBuy, it looks like the ones from Motorola directly take time to come in, and this was an instant way to test and compare the Moto G. So far these are things I noticed.
1) The haptic feedback makes the phone sound like something is shaking inside, which feels a bit cheap. This may be a bad early production model.
2) There is no notification light though androidpit did show a picture of one. Not sure where they got their pic since it does seem to be a moto g 3rd gen in their pics.
3) There is no gryoscope, pressure sensor, or temperature sensor in the phone. It does have a magnetic sensor.
4) The back plate around the camera accent seems to have a small gap on one side even thought everything is clicked in, it may not be waterproof due to this, or maybe it's just variation in manufacturing, but it does worry me a bit.
5) The camera does have a 720p slo-mo option
6) It seems to open things faster than my Galaxy s4, which really surprised me, but is definitely nice to see.
7) There's no really good way to display battery percentage. Moto didn't build an option in, and the lollipop built in option needs to be enabled by an app and results in a very small percentage in the battery icon itself which is hardly legible. As roms and root and custom options come out, I suspect there will be ways to fix this, but in the meantime it's kind of stinky.
8) It has an FM radio. The app requires headphones to be plugged in as it uses them as the antenna, but it seems to work pretty well. I don't really care about this feature too much, but I know some people do.
I still haven't put it through anything too taxing, but if anyone wants to know if it can run any particular games ok or anything feel free to ask, or if there's any features you're curious about.
EDIT: Also I wanted to note one more thing that really blew me away. This phone has the same storage, ram, and a higher resolution screen compared to the LG Leon, which is a cheap T-mobile branded phone. I bought one of them about a month ago to test, and despite a lower res screen and the same general specs, it was laggy, annoying, and the low res screen was a huge nuisance as so little could fit on it. Compared to that phone the Moto G runs buttery smooth and goes a great job, it really is fairly comparable to my Galaxy S4 and seems to load things quicker, though it does also seem to have priority on wifi which means it gets all the bandwidth while the S4 is struggling to get its share, which may partly account for that.

Could you conffirm usb otg support ?
Thanks in advance man, i'm looking forward to get the 2gb version myself. Some people over the internet say there is no usb otg support, i think it's kind of an unlikely scenario, but it would be nice if an actual user confirms it.

Cer3alKiller said:
Thanks in advance man, i'm looking forward to get the 2gb version myself. Some people over the internet say there is no usb otg support, i think it's kind of an unlikely scenario, but it would be nice if an actual user confirms it.
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The USB OTG Checker app says the phone has the API. I don't have anything I can plug into the phone to test that for signal though. Hope this helps even if just a bit. If there's a way to test actual functionality without a female usb a to male micro usb b, let me know. I do have a wireless keyboard but without a cable like that, I don't think there's a way for me to test the functionality.

There is USB-OTG support.
Cer3alKiller said:
Thanks in advance man, i'm looking forward to get the 2gb version myself. Some people over the internet say there is no usb otg support, i think it's kind of an unlikely scenario, but it would be nice if an actual user confirms it.
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There is USB-OTG support. The phone is pretty much good. Does the work, but, I would have preferred a gyroscope sensor instead of FM Radio.

manan.dope said:
There is USB-OTG support. The phone is pretty much good. Does the work, but, I would have preferred a gyroscope sensor instead of FM Radio.
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Me too, gyroscope is way more useful than Radio, I'd rather have a notification light too though, it costs next to nothing and is so useful. Moto display isn't nearly as functional.

It's pretty sad that it doesn't have a gyroscope, last years model did have one.

Gotta disagree, I love the FM radio and am glad Motorola still includes it. It's a bummer about the gyroscope, but I never used it. I'm much more disappointed by the lack of a notification LED and being forced to use Moto Display.
Speaking of which, does the Moto Display show music player controls on the lockscreen? I use Poweramp and I'm wondering if I would be able to pause/play/rewind/skip on the lockscreen without having to input a PIN or do extra actions just to get to the music controls.

Oddb411 said:
Gotta disagree, I love the FM radio and am glad Motorola still includes it. It's a bummer about the gyroscope, but I never used it. I'm much more disappointed by the lack of a notification LED and being forced to use Moto Display.
Speaking of which, does the Moto Display show music player controls on the lockscreen? I use Poweramp and I'm wondering if I would be able to pause/play/rewind/skip on the lockscreen without having to input a PIN or do extra actions just to get to the music controls.
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No it does not. I just put poweramp on my phone and when I flip the phone up to turn on moto display it only shows the time and the unlock option because I have no notifications at the moment. If I use the power button to turn on the screen I can see the skip and play/pause options for poweramp though, so there is that. Hope that helps.

ben7337 said:
No it does not. I just put poweramp on my phone and when I flip the phone up to turn on moto display it only shows the time and the unlock option because I have no notifications at the moment. If I use the power button to turn on the screen I can see the skip and play/pause options for poweramp though, so there is that. Hope that helps.
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Thanks for answering. So Moto Display doesn't show the Poweramp controls even though it has a persistent notification? That's a real bummer since Google Play Music apparently has Moto Display controls. I guess it's not a huge loss since you'd have to press the power button on every other phone to get to the lockscreen controls anyway.

Oddb411 said:
Thanks for answering. So Moto Display doesn't show the Poweramp controls even though it has a persistent notification? That's a real bummer since Google Play Music apparently has Moto Display controls. I guess it's not a huge loss since you'd have to press the power button on every other phone to get to the lockscreen controls anyway.
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Yup, just tested with google play music which is what I normally use since it works best with my bluetooth in my car in my experience. It does show in moto display.

Oddb411 said:
Gotta disagree, I love the FM radio and am glad Motorola still includes it. .
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yeah the FM radio is great!

Could you test Google Photospheres? And confirm the lack of gyroscope? Use an app like Z device test to display all sensors... because CPUZ shows some 'orientation sensor' .. isn't that a gyroscope?

Techguy18 said:
Could you test Google Photospheres? And confirm the lack of gyroscope? Use an app like Z device test to display all sensors... because CPUZ shows some 'orientation sensor' .. isn't that a gyroscope?
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It has multiple accelerometers for orientation, but no gyroscope. I tested with a sensor tester yesterday and noted it in my main post. Just installed z device test and found the same, there is no gyroscope.

Too bad. Motorola.. seriously?
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ben7337 said:
It has multiple accelerometers for orientation, but no gyroscope. I tested with a sensor tester yesterday and noted it in my main post. Just installed z device test and found the same, there is no gyroscope.
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Does the phone have a panorama function? Is it 360 degrees?

Techguy18 said:
Too bad. Motorola.. seriously?
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Does the phone have a panorama function? Is it 360 degrees?
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No it doesn't have panorama function, and by multiple accelerometers I mean I think it has the standard number of axes other phones do for accelerometers, but it works on more than just x and y, though maybe I'm wrong there.

ben7337 said:
No it doesn't have panorama function, and by multiple accelerometers I mean I think it has the standard number of axes other phones do for accelerometers, but it works on more than just x and y, though maybe I'm wrong there.
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No, the phone does have panorama support with the Motorola camera app. Even the 2015 Moto E has panorama support. The purpose of the dual accelerometers is for the gestures and panorama functionality. They emulate some of a gyroscope's functionality using two accelerometers.

Sorry, it supports panorama, what it doesn't support is photosphere.

Does the Moto G have the active display like the moto x? I mean can I just wave my hand over the phone and it will light up with notifications and such without touching the phone...

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No, the phone does have panorama support with the Motorola camera app. Even the 2015 Moto E has panorama support. The purpose of the dual accelerometers is for the gestures and panorama functionality. They emulate some of a gyroscope's functionality using two accelerometers.
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But would there be any way to emulate a gyroscope? A hack or alternative app for Photospheres?
Those tilt control racing games work.. they use accelerometers?

Techguy18 said:
But would there be any way to emulate a gyroscope? A hack or alternative app for Photospheres?
Those tilt control racing games work.. they use accelerometers?
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The accelerometer should be adequate for a tilt control racing game.
Emulating a gyroscope with the dual accelerometers and magnetometer would be an interesting but challenging task. I'll be busy for the next couple weeks, but I could look into creating a kernel module that does this when I get time. Obviously, it wouldn't be perfect, since we'd be fudging the data of a sensor that isn't actually there, but it should be possible to create a good enough imitation for photo sphere to work.