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Any one else having issues with the photo album,
I'v taken out the crappy supplied transcend micro sd and put in a sandisk one in instead.
The album takes for ever to load up the pictures, then when you click on one album, it freezes forever and then 5 minutes later tells you
"Sorry, Activity Albums (in application Albums) is not repsonding, force close or wait"
xdaman85 said:
Any one else having issues with the photo album,
I'v taken out the crappy supplied transcend micro sd and put in a sandisk one in instead.
The album takes for ever to load up the pictures, then when you click on one album, it freezes forever and then 5 minutes later tells you
"Sorry, Activity Albums (in application Albums) is not repsonding, force close or wait"
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What is your version or 'for ever'? if its 3-4 seconds then you need to give up the caffeine. Life isn't perfect and surprisingly no mobile phone is as well. stop MOANING for gods sake, can you actually see the images? yes? yes? oh it takes a few seconds? oh and in that time your supposed friends who only know you through Facebook and not in real life have deserted you... oh poor you, pooooooooooor you, we all feel for you. .......... lick a lemon, it may stimulate you....
And if it really if taking 5 mins then return the phone/...........
now was there any need for that?
be nice please....
thank you
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What is your version or 'for ever'? if its 3-4 seconds then you need to give up the caffeine. Life isn't perfect and surprisingly no mobile phone is as well. stop MOANING for gods sake, can you actually see the images? yes? yes? oh it takes a few seconds? oh and in that time your supposed friends who only know you through Facebook and not in real life have deserted you... oh poor you, pooooooooooor you, we all feel for you. .......... lick a lemon, it may stimulate you....
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Firstly, I don't like facebook nor am I even signed up to it, I make my friends in real life,
remember this is a website to help people out, I don't understand why you had to make the comments you'v made, if you think I'v done something wrong by making this thread, either ignore it or report it to a mod.
Anyway back to the point,
yes, it does indeed literally hang for nearly 5 minutes, loads one or two pics but the remaining 99% stay blank, stays like that, screen wont respond and so on.
And if it took even 10 seconds to load, I wouldn't mind, as I also use Windows Mobile which can be laggy, but 5 Minutes.
An yeh barryallott, please to do not respond to this unless you really have something constructive to say, I dont need you to tell me how much a waste of time this thread is.
Mine hangs occasionally on the albums, and can take up to 10-15 secs to load each album. I reckon it's just a fact of life at the moment- I can remember the first real implementation of HTC Album on the Touch Dual, and the program has come a long way since then on Win Mob. This is the first Android implementation and for the most part it works well for me.
If you are seriously getting 5 minute lag (or anything over 30 secs), I'd suggest getting a taskmanager from the market (I use "Task Manager") and check how many apps you have open, and what resources they are using. It took me a little while to realise that Android leaves stuff running in the background in a Win Mob fashion, which is ace as multitasking is a must for me, but it doesn't half take up resources if you aren't careful!
the other app I'd consider to be essential is '3g watchdog' which you can set with your data limit, and it keeps a tally of all your use in mb and as a percentage- Orange aren't getting a penny out of me for going over the 500mb limit! I wish it wasn't a trade off in the UK between awesome data bundles and no reception with T-mobile, or just about bearable data bundles and amazing reception with Orange...
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Mine hangs occasionally on the albums, and can take up to 10-15 secs to load each album. I reckon it's just a fact of life at the moment- I can remember the first real implementation of HTC Album on the Touch Dual, and the program has come a long way since then on Win Mob. This is the first Android implementation and for the most part it works well for me.
If you are seriously getting 5 minute lag (or anything over 30 secs), I'd suggest getting a taskmanager from the market (I use "Task Manager") and check how many apps you have open, and what resources they are using. It took me a little while to realise that Android leaves stuff running in the background in a Win Mob fashion, which is ace as multitasking is a must for me, but it doesn't half take up resources if you aren't careful!
the other app I'd consider to be essential is '3g watchdog' which you can set with your data limit, and it keeps a tally of all your use in mb and as a percentage- Orange aren't getting a penny out of me for going over the 500mb limit! I wish it wasn't a trade off in the UK between awesome data bundles and no reception with T-mobile, or just about bearable data bundles and amazing reception with Orange...
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I'm using taskiller and seems to be helping out, thank you for helping out.
Oh yeh, 3G watchdog is cool, thanx for that
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What is your version or 'for ever'? if its 3-4 seconds then you need to give up the caffeine. Life isn't perfect and surprisingly no mobile phone is as well. stop MOANING for gods sake, can you actually see the images? yes? yes? oh it takes a few seconds? oh and in that time your supposed friends who only know you through Facebook and not in real life have deserted you... oh poor you, pooooooooooor you, we all feel for you. .......... lick a lemon, it may stimulate you....
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That was such a dramatic over exaggeration. There was no need at all for any of that. I've seen people react better to being hit in the face than how you reacted to that guy asking a simple question...
ExO_PoLiTiX said:
That was such a dramatic over exaggeration. There was no need at all for any of that. I've seen people react better to being hit in the face than how you reacted to that guy asking a simple question...
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point taken..
On the G1 and Magic, on first use of an app that stores stuff on SD, it seems to take a while, and this seems to be mainly down to it creating a thumbs database on the device. Once created, the subsequent access times are MUCH faster. I don't know that this is true for the HTC album, but part of the issue might be this, especially if it never gets time to completely load the pics so every time its trying to finish making a Thumbs database for you.
From the sound of things I think its a combo of issues - the quality of SD card probably having an effect, the creation of a Thumbs database on first access, and possible glitches with the HTC Albunm software that need ironing out. Good news is they all sound very solvable - So give it some time to load.... and think about getting a class4 or class6 SD card.
Much love
Daisy xxx (too sweet? > just kidding...)
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On the G1 and Magic, on first use of an app that stores stuff on SD, it seems to take a while, and this seems to be mainly down to it creating a thumbs database on the device. Once created, the subsequent access times are MUCH faster. I don't know that this is true for the HTC album, but part of the issue might be this, especially if it never gets time to completely load the pics so every time its trying to finish making a Thumbs database for you.
From the sound of things I think its a combo of issues - the quality of SD card probably having an effect, the creation of a Thumbs database on first access, and possible glitches with the HTC Albunm software that need ironing out. Good news is they all sound very solvable - So give it some time to load.... and think about getting a class4 or class6 SD card.
Much love
Daisy xxx (too sweet? > just kidding...)
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Yep your right, theres a folder called .thumbnails in the DCIM folder.
I'v got an Sandisk 8GB class 4 Micro SDHC, so that isn't the issue.
I agree with you that it's most likely to do with the album software.
I exchanged my phone today at the orange shop, and the guy told me that the delay for the release of the Hero was because they had to send the handsets back due to the reading/loading issues. And he happily exchanged it.
Problem still persists, but I'm sure just as you said, that future software revisions may iron things out.
Thanx
Is it me or has this so called lag been blown completely out of proportion with the SGS? I used to have a HTC Hero, I tell you, it's like going from riding a snail to a rocket fuselage. That phone was so slow, a phone may I add which only a year ago was seen as the 'iPhone killer'.
Please are there any previous HTC Hero users who now own a SGS? You have to speak out!
I mean sure, I've used a HTC Desire, it's very fast. But the only difference I have noticed is that on the SGS sometimes Apps take around 3secs longer to open than they should. That's it!! I mean, why are you all complaining so much! It's just as fast as the Desire except that point.
I have now had the SGS for 2 weeks, I haven't noticed any considerable slowdown. It works great! Why are you all complaining like babies? Have you installed Crysis 2 on your SGS or something, obviously your phone would never work again if you did that. Before anybody asks, I have made no changes to my SGS. I have an unlocked SGS, still on Touchwiz, no flash, no root. I don't even use task killer for God's sake. Please would someone explain to me what the big deal is?
What you have to realise is that it's not an always persistent problem. The phone in general is extremely fast, however with earlier firmwares the phone does not free up memory effectively. 3 seconds is nothing, but I recall sometimes waiting 10-15 seconds for the Dialer to launch. And when the memory is really really clogged up, it's a complete pain even pressing the home screen button (waiting 10 seconds to go to home isn't pretty either). For a phone with so much power, do you really think this is normal?
The difference must just be that I'm not a heavy app user. I still have the stock firmware the phone came with. Never had a 10 second delay with anything. Never noticed any sort of build up of lag. It works great! Do you guys install like 50 apps on your phones or something? Clearly that must be your problem.
I have never had any problems either (other than with flaky GPS).
Someone told me how to replicate the lag issue, and it boiled down to having 8-odd apps running in the background at once. I would expect the same on my multi-core 4GB RAM iMac, let alone a phone with 256MB RAM.
Not saying others are only having problems with the above situation, but it does seem like there are specific factors that cause it, which is why a lot of people have had no problems.
The phone has 512mb ram.
Just that currently, HiMem is not available (will be in froyo as a default, and if we're lucky, in the JF6 firmware as well)
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The phone has 512mb ram.
Just that currently, HiMem is not available (will be in froyo as a default, and if we're lucky, in the JF6 firmware as well)
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I know, but until we can actually use it, we are limited to 256MB (or was it 232MB?)
SGS has 512MB RAM
Robin.B said:
What you have to realise is that it's not an always persistent problem. The phone in general is extremely fast, however with earlier firmwares the phone does not free up memory effectively. 3 seconds is nothing, but I recall sometimes waiting 10-15 seconds for the Dialer to launch. And when the memory is really really clogged up, it's a complete pain even pressing the home screen button (waiting 10 seconds to go to home isn't pretty either). For a phone with so much power, do you really think this is normal?
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And although I am not a really heavy app user, I am a heavy user, and it wasn't hard to make the phone lag quite heavily at times, so I'd say no, it has not been blown out of proportion.
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What you have to realise is that it's not an always persistent problem. The phone in general is extremely fast, however with earlier firmwares the phone does not free up memory effectively. 3 seconds is nothing, but I recall sometimes waiting 10-15 seconds for the Dialer to launch. And when the memory is really really clogged up, it's a complete pain even pressing the home screen button (waiting 10 seconds to go to home isn't pretty either). For a phone with so much power, do you really think this is normal?
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+1.
More serious in some applications like mails, RSS reader. It's so slow that I don't even use my SGS for my mails, or to read news anymore.
Tachikoma_kun said:
I have never had any problems either (other than with flaky GPS).
Someone told me how to replicate the lag issue, and it boiled down to having 8-odd apps running in the background at once. I would expect the same on my multi-core 4GB RAM iMac, let alone a phone with 256MB RAM.
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Tachikoma_kun,
Please understand that Android does not work like the Mac OSX on an iMac, and that, if you open 8 odd apps in a row, you should _not_ have them all running in the background at once.
Android's memory management should close applications and free memory as needed. Processes will start if needed, be set to inactive as long as possible and killed if necessary. This works fine with other Android devices and obviously not with the Galaxy S.
You can read about the life cycle of Android Components at
http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/fundamentals.html
Using a task killer to free up memory might make your Galaxy S faster than not using one, but this is still a lot less efficient than it should be. In a working Android system you should use the most out of your available memory and the system should stay fast as you open and switch between applications. You should never have to think about which applications are running or not running.
Again, this works just fine with other devices. If it does not work with the Galaxy S then this is a serious flaw in the system. The flaw might be related to the slow I/O on the internal SD, or maybe there is a firmware bug besides the I/O. But it is currently not working correctly.
If you have access to 256mb memory of RAM, and you use a task killer to always keep 100MB free, then you use your device like it only had 156MB.
I also do not believe that the average customer without a technical background is able to use a task killer without shooting himself in the foot. Without knowledge about what each application and service does, and how android manages background processes, how should a normal user know what he can kill and which services he should keep running?
lag problem blown out of proportion. May be froyo update will satisfy the hunger of these power hungary geeks.
lag problem blown out of proportion. May be froyo update will satisfy the hunger of these power hungary geeks.
eaglesteve said:
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More serious in some applications like mails, RSS reader. It's so slow that I don't even use my SGS for my mails, or to read news anymore.
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I just don't get it. I've never had this problem. Emails and news update perfectly with no lag.
Enarca said:
I just don't get it. I've never had this problem. Emails and news update perfectly with no lag.
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Perhaps whether a person thinks it's slow or not depends on what that person was used to?
That is exactly what i was telling people.
I come from the HTC Athena, and OMG... that thing is like crawling on sand, even with its super duper 625 Mhz CPU which by then was supposed to be the state of the art.
yet everything i did was sloooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow, using the SGS was like smooth flowing water, everything is perfect in this phone out of the box.
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Is it me or has this so called lag been blown completely out of proportion with the SGS? I used to have a HTC Hero, I tell you, it's like going from riding a snail to a rocket fuselage. That phone was so slow, a phone may I add which only a year ago was seen as the 'iPhone killer'.
Please are there any previous HTC Hero users who now own a SGS? You have to speak out!
I mean sure, I've used a HTC Desire, it's very fast. But the only difference I have noticed is that on the SGS sometimes Apps take around 3secs longer to open than they should. That's it!! I mean, why are you all complaining so much! It's just as fast as the Desire except that point.
I have now had the SGS for 2 weeks, I haven't noticed any considerable slowdown. It works great! Why are you all complaining like babies? Have you installed Crysis 2 on your SGS or something, obviously your phone would never work again if you did that. Before anybody asks, I have made no changes to my SGS. I have an unlocked SGS, still on Touchwiz, no flash, no root. I don't even use task killer for God's sake. Please would someone explain to me what the big deal is?
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Im not a SGS owner but i keep noticing the reference to the desire. I did own a snapdragon device until about a week ago. (Droid Incredible). Switched to droid x. The only real reason i believe there is lag on the samsung is the touchwiz. The cpu&gpu in the SGS IS FAR SUPERIOR to that of the desire. Htc just has the most polished custom ui. If u get launcher pro id be willing to bet that lag is gonzola in a hurry. Maybe give this a try? Just trying to help my fellow androiders out. Goodluck fellas
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ksizzle9 said:
Im not a SGS owner but i keep noticing the reference to the desire. I did own a snapdragon device until about a week ago. (Droid Incredible). Switched to droid x. The only real reason i believe there is lag on the samsung is the touchwiz. The cpu&gpu in the SGS IS FAR SUPERIOR to that of the desire. Htc just has the most polished custom ui. If u get launcher pro id be willing to bet that lag is gonzola in a hurry. Maybe give this a try? Just trying to help my fellow androiders out. Goodluck fellas
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what made you choose a Droid X vs. a SGS i9000?
the 2 phones are almost identical, except for the camera.
the lag is very real.
try opening Dolphin HD and then closing it again .....about 8+ seconds to do either, and that's with nothing else open.
instantaneous on the nexus with 2.2.
some apps are much slower than others, some there is no difference, but even the default samsung apps such as phonebook have a good lag when switching between tabs.
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I agree. I'm guessing you haven't used/owned a HTC Hero? If so, you haven't experienced the PAIN!! lol.
On my side I don't have any heavy app, I don't do games, or HD stuff what I expect from my phone is to be able to show me my mail ... and that's where I have plenty of lag ( not all the time but everyday for sure).
Lag to open the mail, lag to delete the mail, lag to come back on the homescreen.
Up to 15 sec to come back from the settings menu.
My benchmark is the iphone 3GS but also the HTC P3600 and the HTC diamond which are not that fast
I have never been waiting so long in front of my phone.
Excuse me if I am working with my phone and I don't want to wait 10 sec all the time.
And stop insulting people who complains please
Oh and the comment about installing 50 apps .... please learn how android is supposed to work. I should be able to install 1000 app without any problem. Who care about the number of app installed ???
By the way, when I have a lot of lag I go in systempanel to see what it my amount of memory and it's around 30-50 Mb so it should not be a problem.
Now that I have had a few days playing with my new phone I thought I would leave some feedback.
Firstly the screen is amazing! I have had several iphone4 owners grovelling at it.
Swype is a touch of genius! I am using it now to type this and its fast as hell!
The battery usage is pretty severe compared to what I expected! Does apps like juice defender work?
Gps is flakey! My tracks was bouncing all over the place, so I guess I am joining the rest of you praying for a firmware fix. I will try co pilot tomorrow to see if its usable.
Lag was a problem, however have been using advanced task manager and it seems to help. I know rooting is supposed to be better with autokiller, but I believe rooting invalidates your warranty? Also, when I reboot my phone I have about 150mb free, but after a days use using adv task man I only have 55ish.
Anyhow in all I am happy with the phone, just need to work on the gps and lag.
Btw, how do I figure out my firmware number?
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in settings, about, and somewhere down the line.
You should be really restrictive when killing processes. Use the ignorelist for just about everything that might be used somehow by something.
Example, start the camera and it can take 2 - 4 sec to be ready to shoot. Have it idling in the background and its up in a split second. This goes for everything.
The onlu thing I kill is games, market and some other useless stuff i tend to run sometimes. Remember: you dont need a lot of free memory, for a quick phone you need your often-used-apps idling and loaded in mem.
djglenn1337 said:
Now that I have had a few days playing with my new phone I thought I would leave some feedback.
Firstly the screen is amazing! I have had several iphone4 owners grovelling at it.
Swype is a touch of genius! I am using it now to type this and its fast as hell!
The battery usage is pretty severe compared to what I expected! Does apps like juice defender work?
Gps is flakey! My tracks was bouncing all over the place, so I guess I am joining the rest of you praying for a firmware fix. I will try co pilot tomorrow to see if its usable.
Lag was a problem
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Similar to my imrpessions in the first days. Screen is outstanding, the only reason I keep wanting to keep the phone. Swype is nice but didn't get used to it.. still type faster on my Nokia E72...but that is a matter of practicing.
GPS.. *sigh*. No comments. It is useless.
Also the lag was annoying but I won't complain much on that since I never tried any of the unofficial fixes.... still, out of the box it is a problem, definitely something Samsung didn't polish well enough.
Plenty of lag and memory fixes available.
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is lag really a major issue out of the box?
yeah theres a decent amount of lag out of the box, but TONS of fixes available
About the battery, OP, wait untill you pass 5-7 initial charge cycles. Battery time increases twofold or more.
On my first battery cycle, it wasted out in around 11 hours.
Now i get more than 2 days of heavy use, and up to 6 of light use.
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is lag really a major issue out of the box?
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what lag?
i've not yet applied any so called "fixed" and i download all kind of free apps i can find in the market, and i don't have any noticeable lag
stock rom UK and Bell version
AllGamer said:
what lag?
i've not yet applied any so called "fixed" and i download all kind of free apps i can find in the market, and i don't have any noticeable lag
stock rom UK and Bell version
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yeah come on !! what lag ?? I didn't see any thread talking about lag, any video .. nothing
There are lag fix but it is not to fix the lag ... as it doens't exist
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The battery usage is pretty severe compared to what I expected! Does apps like juice defender work?
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Yes. Buy it (ultimate Juice). You won't be let down.
AllGamer said:
what lag?
i've not yet applied any so called "fixed" and i download all kind of free apps i can find in the market, and i don't have any noticeable lag
stock rom UK and Bell version
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Your SGS must be really different from mine, perhaps even one of the 6 units that were released in proper shape worldwide. Hang on to it.
Not only you have no GPS issues but you also have no lag.
Mine has no GPS and it lags on the stock ROM (JM2)
Sure. There are lag fixes. And you can always buy an external GPS unit for only 150€ or so.
I just have the nasty habit of presuming I won't need to fix anything right after unpackaging and booting or pay more after spitting out 599€ for a "cutting edge" smartphone.
Customers... always so ungrateful and never pleased. /spit.
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About the battery, OP, wait untill you pass 5-7 initial charge cycles. Battery time increases twofold or more.
On my first battery cycle, it wasted out in around 11 hours.
Now i get more than 2 days of heavy use, and up to 6 of light use.
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how many days passed since you bought the phone, and how many charging cycles?
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how many days passed since you bought the phone, and how many charging cycles?
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It also varies based on your applications though. With some applications running, phone can't sleep properly.
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About the battery, OP, wait untill you pass 5-7 initial charge cycles. Battery time increases twofold or more.
On my first battery cycle, it wasted out in around 11 hours.
Now i get more than 2 days of heavy use, and up to 6 of light use.
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I really hope your right, as mine is still not great tbh.
I will try ultimate juice to see if that helps..
Should I be doing anything in specific in the charge cycles? i.e letting it fully discharge, or anything else?
Ref Lag;
I did experience it out of the box, but only after using lots of multiple apps. I found that task killer fixed the problem, and I have not tried any other fixes.
However I still cant understand my RAM usage.
150MB free on boot, which then decreases to 130MB after say an hour.
2+ Hours later I am down into the 90's...and after 8+ hours into the 60's.
This is using task killer regular enough...so not sure why it happens.
Thanks for the replies guys, much appreciated.
Mine could sometimes take up to 10 seconds to open the phone app on the stock rom. Very annoying. Especially when there's an incoming call and you can't answer because the answer key just won't show up. Now I'm running the jg5 rom and samset 1.6 rom. And everything is lightning fast now. Faster than my iphone 4.
Using the Galaxy S as well for a while now. The phone is AWESOME. After the lagfix this is the best android device I ever messed with. I thought I would want to change the launcher but after getting used to the iPhone like design, touchwiz is actually one of the best skins I have seen. Rotates both ways, you can change the order of the homescreens easily and you can have as many as you want up to 7. It offers some cool widgets just like Sense does and the menu can be all reorganized and not be mixed up by alphabetical order. Even the built in keyboard is awesome for me. Fits with the rest of the design and its multitouch enabled. And you have Swype preinstalled if you want that as well. The camera is awesome and despite the lack of flash you can still take some really decent pics with this if there is some light around.
The screen is just on the sweet spot. 4" with Super AMOLED. Im in heaven really lol.
Even my mum that is a complete iPhone addict is now surrendered to this phone capabilities. Nice job by samsung and obviously by the genius who developed the lagfix and 1 click root.
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So i just got my galaxy s and there doesnt seem to be any lag at the mo.
Why is my baseband 19000nejg1?
Beowulf_pt said:
Your SGS must be really different from mine, perhaps even one of the 6 units that were released in proper shape worldwide. Hang on to it.
Not only you have no GPS issues but you also have no lag.
Mine has no GPS and it lags on the stock ROM (JM2)
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It's worth noting though that Beowulf_pt complained that reports of poor GPS and lag were the things holding him back from purchasing this phone (so I'm honestly wondering why he purchased the phone in the first place). Especially since purchasing it every post he has made seems to have been complaints about the GPS..
The Lag exists, but it doesn't make the phone unusable. Agreed it could be better, but whether it really affects anyone is questionable. It may be mostly fixable by switching scheduler and caching better. Remember, phones such as the Nexus one might be better currently, but they also shipped with a deluge of problems which are now fixed too.. Even the iPhone 4 did..
The GPS does have obvious issues (the accuracy indicator is still wrong, which to me suggests software), but other than the GPS, I am still happy with the phone. Also remember the battery issues depend on what you are running (some apps don't let the phone sleep properly).
I'm still happy to give them until Froyo to fix it. If Samsung doesn't fix it properly by then (and instead does something silly like tell us the "signal strength indicators are wrong"), then I'll try to get a refund. But at the moment, I'm willing to give them a chance.
It is surprising to read people who have no gps problems or lag issues straight out of the box, either they are very lucky and have bought fully functionaly sgs or are quite used to devices which take awhile to respond (I think it is the latter)!
Certainly there are fixes out there to improve the gps and lag issues but none have completely resolved the problem. I'm using JM5 which is working brilliantly and gps seems to work quite accurately especiallywith co-pilot no-other fix has been applied (to scared to!), the lag has also improved significantly but it does occassionaly freeze.
I'm also willing to give the boys at sammy a chance till 2.2 version is out or till Desire HD is launched, which ever comes first. Till then this is the best device out there inmho.
I too didn't notice any lag, until I installed the fixes, then the lag was noticeable as the phone was MUCH smoother.
Ok, so stock Vibrant "lag". What does this mean, precisely? I'm a rooted but otherwise stock JI6, and I don't see any lag anywhere on the phone.
If I were to be experiencing this lag, what would it look like?
keenerb said:
Ok, so stock Vibrant "lag". What does this mean, precisely? I'm a rooted but otherwise stock JI6, and I don't see any lag anywhere on the phone.
If I were to be experiencing this lag, what would it look like?
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Get Xscope V5 (V6 is buggy) browser for free x-labs.net and use it for a day or two. Notice how slow it loads webpages sometimes. Or try Miui Browser (not in market) GUI lags a little too
The LAG that most people are talking about is when you switch windows or open a new app. Sometimes when doing this, the phone will seem to freeze for a moment before going to the new app or page.
With Voodoo lagfix, I have not seen this happen once, where with stock it happened all the time.
If you have rooted your phone and gone down the mod rabbit hole, lagfix is well worth it.
I installed a LagFix recently like I did months ago and saw no huge change in performance (barely any change really) This "lag" problem is about as overblown as it could be. Firefox runs as smoothly as it can (it's not that smooth, beta and needs 40MB of ram on my phone. JFD firmware was did have some lag issues though that we're a problem. Some serious lag was solved by a factory reset or by reloading the OS. The lagfix isn't worth the reduced app space or lesser reliability. If you have no problems with how your phone is running, don't bother with any hacks like that.
Some people randomly got major lag when updating from JFD to JI6. A data wipe solves it.. and they couldn't be happier.
The 'lag' that you see people complaining about does not happen on all phones, all the time.
And I need to remind you to be careful about installing any lagfix. Read up on what it does and how it may affect your phone BEFORE installing it.
Raistline said:
The LAG that most people are talking about is when you switch windows or open a new app. Sometimes when doing this, the phone will seem to freeze for a moment before going to the new app or page.
With Voodoo lagfix, I have not seen this happen once, where with stock it happened all the time.
If you have rooted your phone and gone down the mod rabbit hole, lagfix is well worth it.
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Agreed, you might think the phone is fast now but when you install the lag fix you'll definately notice a difference.
It amazed me when I had to go back to stock (after soft bricking my phone) and I had to install rom manager from the market while everything was stock and it was crazy how slow it was.
heygrl said:
I installed a LagFix recently like I did months ago and saw no huge change in performance (barely any change really) This "lag" problem is about as overblown as it could be. Firefox runs as smoothly as it can (it's not that smooth, beta and needs 40MB of ram on my phone. JFD firmware was did have some lag issues though that we're a problem. Some serious lag was solved by a factory reset or by reloading the OS. The lagfix isn't worth the reduced app space or lesser reliability. If you have no problems with how your phone is running, don't bother with any hacks like that.
Some people randomly got major lag when updating from JFD to JI6. A data wipe solves it.. and they couldn't be happier.
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Gonma take our two vibrants to tmo and use my camcorder to rexord us using different phones after fresh reboots soon to shut up idiots like u.
The lag issue is far from overblown.
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N8ter said:
Gonma take our two vibrants to tmo and use my camcorder to rexord us using different phones after fresh reboots soon to shut up idiots like u.
The lag issue is far from overblown.
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N8ter is a troll, just read their posts. Where did I say "fresh reboot"? Nowhere!
N8ter said:
Gonma take our two vibrants to tmo and use my camcorder to rexord us using different phones after fresh reboots soon to shut up idiots like u.
The lag issue is far from overblown.
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Am interested in seeing said video.
Here is a video I took a while back. I'd be interested in seeing the lag. I know someone with a DROID X, behavior is exactly the same when opening apps. It was the same when I installed the lag fix.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jl1Q2qlRNwE
I'm on stock JI6, non-rooted.
I think what I'm experiencing is considered lag.
It doesn't happen all the time but it is annoying when it does.
Sometimes it'll take 10 seconds for an app to launch.
It's especially bad if I have more than a couple of apps going at the same time.
Some of this can be worked around, keeping as few apps going as possible. I don't use a task killer, I just back out of apps instead of switching home and keeping the app in memory.
There are certain apps where it seems to be worse in.
The Facebook app is horrible to the point where I don't use it but I'm not sure if that's the app or the phone. I can't scroll a page without the phone locking up for 3-4 seconds. Clicking on anything takes about 3-5 seconds for it to register.
I'm pretty disappointed in Samsung in general with their software. The hardware is great, the software just sucks.
One of these days I'll get around to installing another ROM.
knurdle said:
I'm on stock JI6, non-rooted.
I think what I'm experiencing is considered lag.
It doesn't happen all the time but it is annoying when it does.
Sometimes it'll take 10 seconds for an app to launch.
It's especially bad if I have more than a couple of apps going at the same time.
Some of this can be worked around, keeping as few apps going as possible. I don't use a task killer, I just back out of apps instead of switching home and keeping the app in memory.
There are certain apps where it seems to be worse in.
The Facebook app is horrible to the point where I don't use it but I'm not sure if that's the app or the phone. I can't scroll a page without the phone locking up for 3-4 seconds. Clicking on anything takes about 3-5 seconds for it to register.
I'm pretty disappointed in Samsung in general with their software. The hardware is great, the software just sucks.
One of these days I'll get around to installing another ROM.
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You obviously have something else going on here.. Facebook runs with no problems on my phone. If you flash another rom everything will be wiped, just the same as what I said above. The FB app taking 10 seconds to load and locking up the phone is NOT normal behavior.
heygrl said:
You obviously have something else going on here.. Facebook runs with no problems on my phone. If you flash another rom everything will be wiped, just the same as what I said above. The FB app taking 10 seconds to load and locking up the phone is NOT normal behavior.
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I think you're right. It doesn't make sense that facebook would be so bad.
Everything else is pretty much okay.
I think I'm going to try one of the other ROMs. Just need to find some time.
Also, I'm dreading having to go through the whole process of reinstalling and reconfiguring everything. I might have to try titanium backup so that I don't have to do that.
Just been on the phone to Samsung service centre in the UK and they said if u are not happy with the phone u have 28 days to return it, from where u got it and they will replace it with a new one...
and the purpose of this thread is.......?
Odd that Samsung would do that as its not their responsibility .
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psp888 said:
and the purpose of this thread is.......?
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Im having wifi issues with phone as a lot of people are, and also its a bit sluggish... unless of course you think its supposed to be like that, apart from this its a great phone (best Ive had anyways)
davidoff08 said:
Just been on the phone to Samsung service centre in the UK and they said if u are not happy with the phone u have 28 days to return it, from where u got it and they will replace it with a new one...
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since samsung does not sell the phone directly, where exactly are they claiming you can "return the phone to within 28 days"? i would think that depends on the place in which you purchased it. and i dont think its the same for every store.
i'm confused.
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Im having wifi issues with phone as a lot of people are, and also its a bit sluggish... unless of course you think its supposed to be like that, apart from this its a great phone (best Ive had anyways)
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Sluggish ?! Where ?!
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Sluggish ?! Where ?![/QUOTE
read below
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Please ignore this post
No, that's not normal. Take it back dude. Mine never lags.
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Sluggish ?! Where ?!
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Ok it lags when i press the contacts, phone, and messaging buttons a tad, and sometimes it takes over a second to wake up, when i click out of a widget, it lags a lot... if this is normal then ill wont bother taking it back....
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Ok it lags when i press the contacts, phone, and messaging buttons a tad, and sometimes it takes over a second to wake up, when i click out of a widget, it lags a lot... if this is normal then ill wont bother taking it back....
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Hmm I'm going to film what you say and you'll say me if it's the same with yours. Because with me it's like instantly. Except maybe wakeup.
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Hmm I'm going to film what you say and you'll say me if it's the same with yours. Because with me it's like instantly. Except maybe wakeup.
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So your wake up is slow to is it ??
Ive taken my sd card out now to see if it makes a difference sometimes it wakes instant, sometimes not. but as i said there is s little lag with the phone, message. and contacts app, and a cpl of widgets.
Wifi also, i just want my phone to be right
if your using samsung widgets thats your issue. that **** will slow down a f15 fighter jet.
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So your wake up is slow to is it ??
Ive taken my sd card out now to see if it makes a difference sometimes it wakes instant, sometimes not. but as i said there is s little lag with the phone, message. and contacts app, and a cpl of widgets.
Wifi also, i just want my phone to be right
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So I just did the video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Htp1BvOO3AM
Just have hidden messages but didn't accelerated or cut a part of the video.
And yes wakeup is like 1sec delay and can be annoying.
I'm not seeing any slow downs. At all. I had 3 HD games open (Nova, Lets golf 2, and Real Football 2011). I was playing Nova and it was getting a bit heated and I didn't know why but there was absolutely no lag so I didn't pay attention to it, figured the game is taking up quite a bit of power. I stop after about 30 min, and go into task manager to see... all 3 games were running. That was just f'in impressive... the phone taking all this without lagging even a second.
I dont have any samsung widget lags either : \ Before this I was using launcher pro on Galaxy S 1 with an axura custom rom which was relatively lag free (just saying that because I'm not comparing TW 4.0 launher with TW 3.0).
Having said that, the only slight delay I have is when I pinch in all the homescreens. Even that is just a slight stutter if anything. The live widgets I have on desktop are Gallery (cycling through abotu 100 12MP pics), weather, task manager, Email, Sticky notes, Poweramp music player, Youtube, FML, Yahoo Finance, several Pulse feeds, and calendar). These are my live widgets plus ive got a few app shortcuts scattered around. So I'm not too upset with the pinch on home screen causing a bit of stutter since suddenly all those things are being live refreshed/updated.
If you have the lag you're talking about... I'd say something is wrong with your phone.
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So I just did the video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Htp1BvOO3AM
Just have hidden messages but didn't accelerated or cut a part of the video.
And yes wakeup is like 1sec delay and can be annoying.
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Seems like yours is instant mine isn't, ill take it back into shop in the morning they have said they would replace it.
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I'm not seeing any slow downs. At all. I had 3 HD games open (Nova, Lets golf 2, and Real Football 2011). I was playing Nova and it was getting a bit heated and I didn't know why but there was absolutely no lag so I didn't pay attention to it, figured the game is taking up quite a bit of power. I stop after about 30 min, and go into task manager to see... all 3 games were running. That was just f'in impressive... the phone taking all this without lagging even a second.
I dont have any samsung widget lags either : \ Before this I was using launcher pro on Galaxy S 1 with an axura custom rom which was relatively lag free (just saying that because I'm not comparing TW 4.0 launher with TW 3.0).
Having said that, the only slight delay I have is when I pinch in all the homescreens. Even that is just a slight stutter if anything. The live widgets I have on desktop are Gallery (cycling through abotu 100 12MP pics), weather, task manager, Email, Sticky notes, Poweramp music player, Youtube, FML, Yahoo Finance, several Pulse feeds, and calendar). These are my live widgets plus ive got a few app shortcuts scattered around. So I'm not too upset with the pinch on home screen causing a bit of stutter since suddenly all those things are being live refreshed/updated.
If you have the lag you're talking about... I'd say something is wrong with your phone.
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Well im clicking out of apps now there is a second delay till it gets back
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Seems like yours is instant mine isn't, ill take it back into shop in the morning they have said they would replace it.
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Before you return, you can always try this
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.androidapps.spare_parts&feature=search_result
Install and set Window Animations to fast & Transition Animations to fast also.
(I didn't modified that in the video)
davidoff08 said:
Just been on the phone to Samsung service centre in the UK and they said if u are not happy with the phone u have 28 days to return it, from where u got it and they will replace it with a new one...
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And billions of people think a old beardy dude created the universe but it dont make it so...
trollisms...
EleCtrOx666 said:
Before you return, you can always try this
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.androidapps.spare_parts&feature=search_result
Install and set Window Animations to fast & Transition Animations to fast also.
(I didn't modified that in the video)
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Ok ill try it, but ill take it in the morning see what they say ...