I want this on my evo, these look so cool. Is there anyway to port these over, I know you can go to Sprint.com/sprintid, but it says they are only compatible for those two phones right now, but since its android it should be possible right?
So basically themes?
More like scenes but yeah in that sort of family, but with apps personalized for that "Theme" not just the aesthetic look.
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looks like android ships officially now.. and given that, i wonder why not much is making Pseudo-Android apps for WM.. there are some bits of android that will be a nice addition to our WM phones to make it a bit more user friendly..
this is also posted on another thread, but i think it's hi-jacking so i made a new thread discussing it
what i like to see now is some Android inspired apps.. i'm quite sick now of pseudo-iPhone apps (well, excluding A_Cs S2 lineup that is and other great apps)..
so, how about an application such like the Android drop down notifications.. it'll totally replace the bubble notification icon when you have more than 1 notification.. and it's easier to access than pressing that darn icon on the topbar..
it's pretty handy, if you ask me.. i hope someone develops something like that..
here's a video demo of what i am talking about..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hy-YcGNyJds
anyone who have seen other interesting bits of android, and want that bit into our WM phones, please post here..
luckily, a good developer might see this and create one for us..
HTC designed Sense, and it's popular..but one question that has been on my mind for a while is, why haven't we designed something of our own yet? We hack,mod, and theme Android and Sense, but wouldn't it be cool if somebody just built a whole new UI? What kind of manpower would that take to do?
A full custom UI is probably pretty complicated to create and requires not only knowledge of the code but also graphics and design skills.
We have some talented dev's on the Android theme I figured we would have seen it by now.
SystmDcln said:
We have some talented dev's on the Android theme I figured we would have seen it by now.
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I don't think the devs want to spend soooo much time and effort for something they won't be properly compensated for...
most devs either excel at coding and therefore create apps and ROMs, or they excel at graphics and therefore create custom themes and such.
I have a side project that I am trying out something on. That's about it for now. But it's not something you, SystmDcln, would like though. Current time frame is for Q1 of this year but that does not belong in this forum or this section of the forum.
With that said, I am going to say the following things and they are in no particular order.
1. Making a UI require both programing, understanding of the system and graphics.
2. Building an UI also require time. Time = money etc... you see where this is going...
3. People spend hours making UI and only half of people will like what they did. The other half will dislike it and why waste time for no reason.
4. HTC BOUGHT out a UI making company a few years back and they paid in the millions for that. Why? To make sense UI.
5. A good UI is hard to come by. I prefer clean and in 3 colors; black, white and gray. HTC likes colorful stuff (look at sense ui).
There will be more.... I'll come back...
i'd be happy to put together any images. just gimme a round-about design idea, file type, and the size. photoshop and illustrator are fun for me to play with, and i'd be flattered if other people wanted my material on their phones.
i don't code though. got out of that a loooooong time ago. haven't looked back
I get what you mean. However, I look at Android sorta like the Linux community..there is like more distro's of Linux than most can keep count of all free and customized to particular needs..would just kinda like to see some of that with Android.
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I get what you mean. However, I look at Android sorta like the Linux community..there is like more distro's of Linux than most can keep count of all free and customized to particular needs..would just kinda like to see some of that with Android.
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Dude, its still way new. You say look at the linux com., yah and look how long they been around...
There ARE some very talented people in here, give them credit for what they HAVE done, its amazing already, and they didnt get paid by google like these current engineers have been. Move to another OS (or older phone aka g1) for more options.
Down the road im sure there will be mannny awesome things to come about. But relax for now.
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Dude, its still way new. You say look at the linux com., yah and look how long they been around...
There ARE some very talented people in here, give them credit for what they HAVE done, its amazing already, and they didnt get paid by google like these current engineers have been. Move to another OS (or older phone aka g1) for more options.
Down the road im sure there will be mannny awesome things to come about. But relax for now.
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I'm not referring specifically to Nexus One but more or less Android as a whole. And I do give credit to people like Cyanogen etc who have done some really neat things.
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I get what you mean. However, I look at Android sorta like the Linux community..there is like more distro's of Linux than most can keep count of all free and customized to particular needs..would just kinda like to see some of that with Android.
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all those distro's are backed by a whole organized team of devs. Most devs you find here either work completley alone, or simply communicate with other devs for help and advice. They usually do not for an organized team for development.
Are you talking about something like Home++ or GDE?
Sounds like the "UI" that you're talking about is just a launcher/home replacement...which is already available on the market....
Come on Ginger http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/06/20/google_android_oem/
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Come on Ginger http://forum.xda-developers.com/newthread.php?do=newthread&f=557
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whats with the link for a new thread????
I think you pasted the wrong link there...
Oh my gosh! That's interesting!
somehow..
Link Fail >.>
cheddie said:
whats with the link for a new thread????
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http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/06/20/google_android_oem/
Nice find. personaly i think that the sensui makes the phone slower. But can't wait to see gingerbread
I dont think its really going to change much..its just going to make the decision for getting a custom UI more difficult since google is improving androids stock UI. Also, from what I've read they should be doing updates through the market after gingerbread so wouldnt that make it easier for the custom UI'ed phones to stay updated?
I read that article this morning and it just annoyed me. First of all, Google aren't going to stop manufacturers applying their own skins, I can still see HTC using sense and maybe motoblur/TouchWiz (eurghh) but there's still going to be a hell of a lot of phones/devices out there running stock UI that will benefit from this, including us Nexus users...
Secondly the author shows a lack of knowledge in saying that Microsoft couldn't do this because of Sense on Mobile 6.5 - are they aware that Windows Phone 7 is not allowed to be skinned?
Hopefully part of this UI refresh will focus on making Android work on tablet sized devices, as stock looks a bit odd on such large screens.
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I read that article this morning and it just annoyed me. First of all, Google aren't going to stop manufacturers applying their own skins, I can still see HTC using sense and maybe motoblur/TouchWiz (eurghh) but there's still going to be a hell of a lot of phones/devices out there running stock UI that will benefit from this, including us Nexus users...
Secondly the author shows a lack of knowledge in saying that Microsoft couldn't do this because of Sense on Mobile 6.5 - are they aware that Windows Phone 7 is not allowed to be skinned?
Hopefully part of this UI refresh will focus on making Android work on tablet sized devices, as stock looks a bit odd on such large screens.
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I agree, looks like the author is more interested in making a bigger deal out of this that it really is. He is really stretching it too trying to compare Apple and their closed system vs Google improving their UI to make make it more user friendly
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http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/06/20/google_android_oem/
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I stopped reading when the author stated that Google was trying to maintain "Apple-style control" over the user interface. That's nonsense.
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I stopped reading when the author stated that Google was trying to maintain "Apple-style control" over the user interface. That's nonsense.
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no pun intended?
I stopped reading that crap when the article said "programmers risk being 'Motoblur' programmers or 'Sense' programmers. I'm pretty sure if he had any knowledge of the Android OS, he'd know its all ANDROID!!! What the **** is wrong with these iPhone fanboys
It's ridiculous how easily things are misenterpreted and misreported.
What was actually said:
"We're gonna focus on making gingerbread pretty and cohesive"
How it was taken:
"We're gonna actively prevent mfgs from adding their own UI's, we're gonna lock down android, and we're gonna start stealing babies"
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it's ridiculous how easily things are misenterpreted and misreported.
What was actually said:
"we're gonna focus on making gingerbread pretty and cohesive"
how it was taken:
"we're gonna actively prevent mfgs from adding their own ui's, we're gonna lock down android, and we're gonna start stealing babies"
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FOUR HUNDRED BABIES. WE WILL STEAL FOUR HUNDRED BABIES.
minus a few widgets, a pretty wallpaper, and a different launcher.... sense is (and all other blur's and wiz's) basically the same as the "vanilla" android experience... isnt it?
Dont see how this is going to change much. Except for making android more pretty... which sounds good to me!
Sense runs pretty deep.
i must be one of the only one's who dont get all the complaining about the android UI is inconsistent and not cohesive etc. i just dont see that. for example, no matter what app you go into the settings screen looks identical all the time. a long black list with checkbox options for on and off. how is that inconsistent?
Android UI really does need a refresh. Just all the grey boxes, lack of nice gradients, neon greens and bad shapes and no transparency or reflections or anything to make it look 'shiny' really make the platform appear dated. Sense has a go at fixing these things but it only does a good job on the surface and they are still all there as soon as you open something not built for sense. I'm hoping Gingerbread fixes all this!
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Sense runs pretty deep.
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Exactly. That's what Google is trying to stop, these deep reaching UI and OS overhauls. Motoblur, the AT&T Backflip aside, isn't as invasive and therefore doesn't have the same problem. How many apps don't work because of Sense? 5-10% of my apps (aside from Launcher Pro) have some kind of warning against sense issues.
I don't think this will extend to launchers, as those are fairly easy to swap out, and the article stated that wasn't the point. I hope this means we'll actually get some official skinning support, so we don't have to deal with stuff like flashing themes or metamorph. Make it easy, make it modular, make it open. Isn't that the open source goal?
I just watched a video on you tube of the Motorola Droid X. each widget you can long press and then resize the widget too any size on the screen and it automatically adjust. any chance of anyone working on this for our EVO's? I would be the first to donate.Here is the link. Starts at 2:27 into it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMG0Wjnuq3I
Proprietary code
I'm no expert, but if Motorola made their widgets the same way HTC made their's, then the widgets are tied to the launcher and their won't really be any way to extract them. Obviously someone could program something similar, the same way many HTC widgets have been replicated, but a true port of the software is probably impossible. Keep in mind these guys encrypted the bootloader on the device, so I don't think they are too keen on our Android hacking community to begin with, so extracting those widgets is probably impossible without Moto/Ninja-blur.
Thats definitely a cool feature for ADW Launcher to aim for.
i didnt exactly think they could steal that exact one but someone could make a similar option. Actually i was looking at some of cyanogens work and in one of his roms, he does have a resizer built in, not exactly as smooth as the droidx but would still be awesome to see on the EVO. And word is that he is building a rom for the evo now. He does some excellent work and i cant wait to see what he dreams up for the Evo.
Can we have live wallpaper? All my friends are getting new HTCs and they have nice live wallpapers, I love my tilt 2 and don't wanna purchase a new HTC just for that cool feature which I love.
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Can we have live wallpaper? All my friends are getting new HTCs and they have nice live wallpapers, I love my tilt 2 and don't wanna purchase a new HTC just for that cool feature which I love.
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Well... in Windows Mobile, I don't believe you can. But you can in android. Hop on over to the android development section for the rhodium. It isn't suggested to run live wallpapers even in android though. They make the battery life far worse and they don't run that well on our devices.
hey man, if your into all that... just get an android.
a person like you will like this phone less and less the more you see all the other gimmicky garbage the newer phones do.
There are live map wallpapers if you are into that. You will need data or wifi though
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6999228#
I found the following link pretty interesting.. It looks like we've had some sort of wallpaper animation all along. I just checked in my window folder and I have all manila files used to make it work(default of course). Not sure if it'll work with cht. If you give it a try let us know how it works out. Here's the link.. My animated backgrounds for sense 2.5(31-3-2010)
On my Sprint TP2 i've got "Animated Wallpapers", they have a bubble fly across the screen or something similar every now and then. Even though they are not "live" wallpapers, and are very basic it creates tons of lag when switching to the home tab.