thinking about switching from Desire to HD2 - HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera

I own a Desire and thinking about switching to the HD2 because I like the big screen. However, there are some things I would like to know:
- Is Android 2.2 running from the SD-card just as fast as it would be if NAND? And is is just as fast as it runs on the desire?
- Are the colors (especially the deep blacks) on the Desire (AMOLED) THAT much better then the HD2?
- Are there any more major advantages/disadvantages about making the switch from the Desire to the HD2?

If you would wait for a little time, a bootloader to boot android from NAND on the HD2 will be released.
Concerning the other questions, I can't provide any help to you, as I only own a HTC HD2.
Btw, why do you ask that question in two different threads?
I can't post a link to the NAND discussion to PREVENT SPAM...

if you want a bigger screen running android you would be beter off just getting the desire hd

I have both phones and the desire is the newest of my phones because I liked a mates desire that he recently bought. I thought that when the desire came in the mail that it would be my main phone but I was wrong. The screen on the Desire is nice but it is way over the top with colour, the colour is is too unrealistic.
The HD2's screen size wins over hands down and you can pick the HD2 up cheap now over buying the Desire HD which looks like it doesn't have much more to offer than the HD2 other than the camera and the new screen type.

I also own both phones, I Like the HD2 for some things, and the Desire for others. But the Desire has become my daily driver since I got it. I Like the screen, and am able to run it at a lot lower brightness, than the HD2, saving power. I think the biggest difference is the weight, the HD2 is all metal and a lot bigger, the plastic back on the Desire really reduces the weight.

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What the hell's the difference between the Leo and the Bravo (Desire)

htc.com/www/product/desire/specification.html
I noticed the Bravo has face recognition ? Can't see many other differences in the spec
Anything else different with this new model?
Android 2.1, smaller screen
now.. that phone is loook much better than X10
Guys what do you recommend, HD2 or Desire.!!
The Desire also has optical trackpad and AMOLED rather than LCD screen. If I was buying a new handset now, I would need to try both an HD2 and Desire side by side to make my choice.
I'm happy with my HD2 on HTC's 1.66 ROM, but the Desire looks nice and the Apps being released for Android would be enough to tempt me if the rumours of the HD2 getting WM7 weren't around.
Pretty much what he said ^
It looks nice.... the kind of thing my daugfhter would prefer over the HD" (she's already a veteran Hero user....) but.... its Android...
desire as android gets allot of free updates than windows mobile

[Q] HTC Desire or Android on HD2 (Loves big screen)

Hello Friends
I am from India. I have been looking for EVO 4g since long time, but its not available in India. finally decided to go with other one and got stuck between HD2 & Desire. I want to have HTC Desire because want to have an Android with joystick & crispy display, but like HD2's big screen, video recording at 30 frame/s and few more features. finally i decided to buy HD2 and planning to have Android on it. I am a software developer and it will allow me to do some stuff for both platforms. Am i right??? whatever i have learn't just because of you guys and want to know your views before i go for HD2.
So HD2 with dual OS will work fine or if i am to choose only one OS (Android my preference) i should go for HTC Desire?
HD2 is great because it gives you so much freedom to do whatever u want. Just look around xda and you'll find threads for Windows ROMS Android ROMS (Sd or NAND installs) and theres even some of the latest gingerbread versions round. Dual booting too is now possible so go with HD2 and use the search bar. Endless possibilities with HD2. you'll love it
Well my girlfriend has the Desire.its a very reliable piece of kit,battery life is great,3.7inch screen,720p recording,you can root and put different builds on it but its a native android device,i have a HD2,Simular internals to the desire,no 720p tho however we do have a duel flash wich is better for taking pictures,4.3inch screen,You can boot several different OS.Duel Boot,Theres no other phone like it,The possibilitys are Endless with this thing however The decision is yours
If you wanted an Evo 4G then you can actually download the Android build for the HD2. It also has the bigger screen and now comes with clockwork mod so you can do anything the Desire can do but with the HD2 you have more options like Miui, MyTouch, Evo 4G, Desire HD/Z, Samsung Galaxy S (Gingerbread) or any other builds you may like, they are all available on the HD2.
in my opinion both phones suck dont buy them at all
htc desire is a useless old phone with bad battery and old version htc sense interface that makes it slow an unfunctional
hd2 also is a winmo phone and changing it to android makes it even worse
bad battery drain
connections issue
and lack of screen color support(256k not 16m) makes the android looks symbian
so if you want to have a real phone wait for evo 4g or htc desire or...
but not hd2
m2shakiba said:
in my opinion both phones suck dont buy them at all
htc desire is a useless old phone with bad battery and old version htc sense interface that makes it slow an unfunctional
hd2 also is a winmo phone and changing it to android makes it even worse
bad battery drain
connections issue
and lack of screen color support(256k not 16m) makes the android looks symbian
so if you want to have a real phone wait for evo 4g or htc desire or...
but not hd2
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No connection issues for me for HD2 running NAND
No battery issues minus the 1 60mA bug (read your messages and it won't effect your battery life much)
Screen color doesn't mean ****, Android looks flawless. I bet if someone found a workaround for 16m vs 256k you wouldn't even notice the difference.
He was saying wait for the Desire HD by the way --- Great phone, but terrible look appeal, Evo 4G looks like poop. HD2 is the best phone on the US Market, hands-down.
AndHD2 said:
If you wanted an Evo 4G then you can actually download the Android build for the HD2. It also has the bigger screen and now comes with clockwork mod so you can do anything the Desire can do but with the HD2 you have more options like Miui, MyTouch, Evo 4G, Desire HD/Z, Samsung Galaxy S (Gingerbread) or any other builds you may like, they are all available on the HD2.
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What makes you think the desire doesn't have all those builds? It does... it probably even has more roms available.
Anyways, to the op... if you want to also boot into winmo and maybe wp7 in the future, the hd2 is a good phone. If you just want Android, you'd be better off getting a native Android phone. Native Android phones have more colors, better battery, and overall can run Android better once their rooted and tweaked properly. But they will never be able to run winmo (or wp7 in future hopefully) like the hd2 can.
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Guys...why all the replies today to a thread started last August huh ?
I think the OP might have moved on by now....
I mean to be honest HD2 is the best phone for any os. It is a beast with android, a monstar with windows. Big screen and awesome colors, amazing picture quality. All in all it is your best bet. Hd2 is also cheaper than desire.
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m2shakiba said:
in my opinion both phones suck dont buy them at all
htc desire is a useless old phone with bad battery and old version htc sense interface that makes it slow an unfunctional
hd2 also is a winmo phone and changing it to android makes it even worse
bad battery drain
connections issue
and lack of screen color support(256k not 16m) makes the android looks symbian
so if you want to have a real phone wait for evo 4g or htc desire or...
but not hd2
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Why are you on here,i think you contridicted yourself in many ways,You say desire sucks but you say wait for a real phone like a htc desire,you say wait for Evo wich has exacly the same screen as a HD2,The lack of colour support,i cant see that being a major issue,the other thing is its actually 262k,Basically the difference is the 16m will give more depth to photos etc but also consider the resolution and brightness of the screen, I've seen a few 16m colour displays with poor resolution(nokia 5800 for example,its a symbian,Samsung Galexy Spica,an Android,both with 16m)and while the colours look great the image isn't as sharp! Good resolution first, then consider the colours i,4.3 inch and 480x800 Res(this goes for Evo aswell)image quility is better than half the 16m units and nothing is a bad as what symbian is,ive had an Amoled Samung i8910 with 16m and a 360x640 res and that was worse than a HD2 screen,This screen even beats my old Hero,its not all about Colours,Battery i think is the same as windows mo,just depends on the kernal and on most smart phones,battery life isnt fantastic anyway,I think you shoulda thought that post through a little better
Marct77 said:
Guys...why all the replies today to a thread started last August huh ?
I think the OP might have moved on by now....
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Oh, wow, I didn't pay attention to the date of the op... I just saw a bunch of replies from today so I assumed it was recent.
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[Q] Desire or Desire HD?

Hi dear,
I own galaxy s and I like it.
After I saw HTC desire hd, I've changed my mind though.
I'm about to sell my phone and going to get the phone ot desire.
Do you think if I will get desire(not hd), is it too late to get it?
Should I wait for desire hd?
I'm tired of the laggy on galaxy s...
13 days till HD is released, thats nothing honestly.
I've been waiting for months =X
@jorkobe23 The only reason you're considering buying a DHD is because of the lag issues on the SGS? If so, why not wait until the end of the month for the SGS update to 2.2 to see if it fixes the lag issues?
It may save you a lot of money to wait, especially since from your post it seems that other than the lag you're happy with your SGS.
nono,
I love sense ui and I want to have bigger screen.
I heard android froyo is optimized for snappgon cpu not hummingbird.
So many people guess even though froyo will release for galaxy s,
the laggy and gps problem will not be solved.
Idree: Haha,
did you sell your galaxy s?
wait for the DHD, its will be on stock very soon, until the 22th.
dono, for me anyway the SGS is not the real thing, no cm for that device yet, and dono, its made like plastic.
jorkobe23 said:
nono,
I love sense ui and I want to have bigger screen.
I heard android froyo is optimized for snappgon cpu not hummingbird.
So many people guess even though froyo will release for galaxy s,
the laggy and gps problem will not be solved.
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if you want a bigger screen i wouldn't go for the desire because that has a 3.7" screen which is smaller than your current phone, which is 4" the desire hd will have a screen of 4,3"
Desire HD advantages:
- updated graphics GPU (faster 3d games performance)
- bigger screen 4.3 vs 3.7inch
- 8MP camera with real 720p recording vs 5MP and broken 720p
- more RAM and more internal storage (internal is no issue on desire with A2SD+)
- Full aluminum body
- new sense
Desire advantages
- Slimmer, lighter and easier to operate in one hand
- Higher screen density (252dpi vs 233dpi)
- AMOLED or SLCD (Sexier colors and blacks then standard LCD on the HD with better viewing angle)
- semi aluminum frame
- new sense is on the way (either officially or by xda)
i'm personally in love with my dense SLCD screen and slim body, so i wait for the next desire, praying for 4inch version
Haha Thanks for useful information, hamdir.
Hm... I think I should go desire HD cos I heard desire has had multi touch problem, right?
jorkobe23 said:
Haha Thanks for useful information, hamdir.
Hm... I think I should go desire HD cos I heard desire has had multi touch problem, right?
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a slight multi touch problem, the desire is dual touch, i'm not facing any issues with games like hero of sparta and emulators
the issue appears with FPS like games for example where you might keep one finger still on the movement buttons and aim with the other
in games like heavy gunner where you have to dual control both left and right guns i faced no issues and i've enjoyed that game
as for the interface no problems, pinch to zoom works perfectly
but yes your right if that is a concern go with the HD (i'm not sure if multi touch is confirmed), the HD is more suited to games anyway because of the much faster GPU
for me i compared the HD2 usage to Desire usage and the size was unfortunatly an issue for me
Ok.. so I'm in the same situation here... and I can't make up my mind between the 2 phones ....
I've read this whole forum and also looked at the 20 best mobile phones at techradar - The original desire is still at number 1.
I like the big screen. I am basically in front of a pc the whole day .. So I can pretty much charge the phone anytime.
So I would like some input from fellow xda users ... which is the best to go for? Desire or Desire HD?
Cranzy said:
Ok.. so I'm in the same situation here... and I can't make up my mind between the 2 phones ....
I've read this whole forum and also looked at the 20 best mobile phones at techradar - The original desire is still at number 1.
I like the big screen. I am basically in front of a pc the whole day .. So I can pretty much charge the phone anytime.
So I would like some input from fellow xda users ... which is the best to go for? Desire or Desire HD?
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I have a Desire and just got the DHD last week. The DHD doesn't seem like a big enough upgrade over the Desire for me personally and I prefer the more compact size of the desire.
If I didn't already have the Desire, I would be happy with the DHD on it's merits.
@Cranzy: my opinion is that if you don't mind the extra 4mm height and 8mm width, if you don't mind the touch buttons and don't need the optical trackball, if you don't mind the maybe little lower battery life (on other side, on first run i still have 52% battery after nearly 12 hour run, so it looks like a full day with a bit higher usage than usual for me), then go for Desire HD. I got it yesterday, and it's impossible to compare with my old Milestone, the speed is like from a different planet .
Thanks for the info... Think I'm much more leaning towards the Desire HD ...
Ok... the more i read the forum here .. the more I'm thinking Im gonna make the wrong choice by moving to the desire HD and that I should rather be moving to the normal desire ... maybe I should go start reading the normal desire forums ...
Each phone has probably got their own problems...
Will future firmware updates fix most of these little nagging problems ..?
I am upgrading here from HTC diamond .. so both desire or desire HD is a major upgrade ...
Is everybody still saying I should go for the desire HD?
It all depends what you want, but don't forget that graphical performance of HTC Desire is ~50% of the Desire HD or Z.
I really like the big screen and htcsense feature ... i don't mind the battery ... just been reading about the sensor and camera issues ...
Im still leaning towards the Desire HD though
I'm on my second day of my dhd not totally sure if I'm keeping it . Love the screen size and battery life . But its not that much of an upgrade from my desire and I do like the amoled screen better on the desire .
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I gathered from the forums that if you are coming from the desire .. the upgrade isn't really worth it... but for me coming from htc diamond ... it will be
To be honest they are both great phones . Very tempted to keep the hd but will live with my desire till something a bit better comes along or my desire goes faulty . But never the less the hd is a class phone if your coming from something totally different .
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[Q] HD2 vs Desire?

Which one runs Android better/faster? The logical answer would be Desire since it's made to run Android, but the hd2 seems really fast also. They both cost the same, which one is better? I'm tending to the hd2 for that awesome screen, I'm sick of my iPhone's small screen..
freemini said:
Which one runs Android better/faster? The logical answer would be Desire since it's made to run Android, but the hd2 seems really fast also. They both cost the same, which one is better? I'm tending to the hd2 for that awesome screen, I'm sick of my iPhone's small screen..
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Hd2 boots android from the sd card basically which tends to make it slow and also the battery life on it using android sucks big time in comparison to desire.
The desire on the other hand has a newer processor and boots android straight from nand. Hence it is more power efficient and android works pretty well on it
But the HD2 has better RAM and ROM capabilities.
And the option to boot many Operating systems at a time
Also the HD2 nand will be out soon.
So its basically left up to you dude.
Do a nice comparison between the two.
i am sure you know what your needs are
NAND can't come quick enough for me; I'm getting really tired of the SD mounting instability.
Personally, I have 0 problems with Android running from the SD card. I did have a few issues with earlier builds, but haven't had any problems for a couple of months now. The newest builds seem even faster and have better battery life, so it's all good!
I couldn't stand to go to a Desire after the HD2. I seriously didn't see any performance benefits when I played with one (in fairness, the HD2 seems quicker and smoother to me), and yes.... the massive screen is difficult to top!
Unless it's a Desire HD, I'd stick with the HD2.
Desire has 3.7 AMOLED/SLCD screen while HD2 has 4.3 65536 colors TFT screen.
It's hard to decide.
HD2
my friend had a desire and it just couldnt match up with the development on the HD2
however, for a pure phone and not to play everyday, Desire might suite you
HD2 is pure experimental and fun
twilightgod said:
Desire has 3.7 AMOLED/SLCD screen while HD2 has 4.3 65536 colors TFT screen.
It's hard to decide.
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The 65k colors on HD2 is not the screen capability, its actually WinMo that can display max of 65k colors..

Desire HD or HTC HD2

I want to buy a new smartphone. What is the best?
Is there other options because those phones are both nice but there are newer ones with dual core about the same price as those phones. If you want versatility then the HD2 is the phone for you. if you want pure android from the door and dont really want the hassle of messing around then I would go withe the Desire HD. I have the HD2 and i love the phone alot of development for it but it is getting old. I would go with the Desire HD.
czarsuperstar......... Define versatility.
Uh...
Desire HD has newer CPU and GPU.
So... Desire HD/
fabicio said:
I want to buy a new smartphone. What is the best?
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How about Sensation?
rockztahh said:
How about Sensation?
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Grip of death issue on the Sensation...and the nail to the coffin for the Sensation is that other brands do offer better per dollar value...such as SGSII. lol.
Between HD2 and Desire HD, go with the Desire HD, its a far newer phone with improved CPU and GPU as well as other small tweaks such as the camera, most importantly, a far more superior operating system...HD2 had a lot of issues with the digitaliser...
fabicio said:
I want to buy a new smartphone. What is the best?
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If I were you I would not consider hanging with these phones. Though very popular phone but...I would put 10% more on the top of my budget n bought the new dual core phones like sensation or GS2.
I got DHD now. I like it but there are couple of other phones more powerful, better GPU and better battery life.
Decision is yours: If no last options I would prefer DHD far better specs than HD2
My wife has Samsung Galaxy. Everything just seems to 'work' on that phone compared to my HD. Dont be blinkered into choosing an HTC phone based on past glories.
Sent from my HTC HD so may contain typos, bugs and, if the battery lasts, pearls of....(battery 0%)
l0w said:
My wife has Samsung Galaxy. Everything just seems to 'work' on that phone compared to my HD. Dont be blinkered into choosing an HTC phone based on past glories.
Sent from my HTC HD so may contain typos, bugs and, if the battery lasts, pearls of....(battery 0%)
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I'm also tempted to buy a S2 galaxy.
People b*tch about it being plastic but you have very good plastic and bad metal if you know what I mean, as long as the chassis is sturdy.
Also rf-signals (gps, wifi, bt and gsm (still a phone)) pass through plastic more easily than metal.
For one I would not buy a HD2 anymore if it would be your only phone.
Like someone said, hardware issues. Head down to the hd2 forum and you will see loads of people complaining about bad blocks, digitizers etc. things that are not really replacable etc.
As being a 'toy' phone then yes the HD2 is fantastic.
I now have the DHD but I'm still not sure that I like it. I also have a ZTE blade (yes the cheap thing) and it beats the DHD in wifi, gps and loudspeaker (as being able to hear something not like a tweeter on the DHD)
The DHD on the other hand is faster, has a better camera (still seeing pink spot, check a grey wall and bump up colour and contrast) and larger screen (did I say that the ZTE screen was brighter also?).
So it all depends on your needs.
I would love to testdrive a couple of phones and compare them for a week.
There are 2 things about SGS2 which wins over Sensation. It's Super Amoled bright screen and it's light weight!
Downside: very cheap looking phone! seems like bought from a $2.00 shop lol
Sensation: It's got sense 3.0 because it make sense! a bit lagging If I'm not wrong my DHD runs smoother than HTC sensation. > May be they have fixed with the new update!
NOT to overwhelm OP with these ideologies . Ya should have these things in mind before buying your SMART PHONE. Or else you'll end up regrating. Now we say HD2 is old 2,3 months later you'll say to Sensation or GS2. It's all Money and Marketing but on top of that you should consider your own needs and requirements from a smart phone.
l0w said:
My wife has Samsung Galaxy. Everything just seems to 'work' on that phone compared to my HD. Dont be blinkered into choosing an HTC phone based on past glories.
Sent from my HTC HD so may contain typos, bugs and, if the battery lasts, pearls of....(battery 0%)
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hmmm...HTC just isnt what they used to be...disappointed in their Evo 3D...and the Sensation...dont get me wrong...Ive had 5 HTCs in the past...absolute fanatic...but yea...
Diamond II > Nexus One > Wildfire > Desire > Desire HD
fabicio said:
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I have been a member of the HD2 section of this forum for over a year, and until last week i owned 2 x HD2 phones.
Trust me.....get a HTC Desire!!!!
Owned my desire for a week and it's BRILLIANT compared to HD2 problems.
matt
As few have mentioned the DHD has better hardware spec than the HD2.
What nobody has mentioned though is the screen is way better on the DHD especially in terms of accuracy of typing, thats what i've found anyway...
If they are your only 2 choices defo the DHD in my experience...
DHD is better than HD2,they are uncomparable,but why not another newer and more powerful dual core phone? The two of them are out of fashion now.
I think the Desire HD is still a very good phone compared to the newer generation phones (SGS2, Sensation) and a viable option. It depends on what features you need though.
Why?
-Dualcore does not bring any real advantages right now. When apps really profit from it there will be better phones. + it usually uses more power than singlecore.
So the speed improvement compared to a DHD is very minimal and probably not noticable in general.
-DHD has one of the best custom rom support. From different Sense 2.1 and Sense 3 roms to Cyanogen or MIUI variations you can flash what you want on your DHD. Custom roms on the newer phones are still in early developement.
-Software from both SGS2 and Sensation isnt quite there imho. Touchwiz is well... touchwiz, and SGS2 has some problems with 3d games and overheats sometimes. And somehow the sensation just doesnt feel that smooth (i had the feeling sense 3 on my DHD runs smoother^^) we can only hope updates will correct that.
I could go on. But in my opinion upgrading from a DHD to one of the newer phones is something you should only do if you have more than enough money on your bank.
But you're in another situation. You need a new phone and if money is an issue i think the DHD is still a good option (forget the HD2 its just too old). Its not without flaws but neither are the newer phones.
I will stick to my DHD for at least another year. But if I would be in your spot(and money wasnt an issue) right now id probably go for the Sensation with a good custom rom (they should be out soon with the bootloader unlocked now).
The SGS2 is very good, but there are some things that are dealbrakers for me. For example the screen. Everyones praising it to heaven but i think its just awefull to look at^^ Colors are way off. And stuff mentioned above..
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For example the screen. Everyones praising it to heaven but i think its just awefull to look at^^ Colors are way off. And stuff mentioned above..
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Ah, I'm not alone in thinking that then? Full brightness, looks fine - anything less and the SGSII has a green tint to it. Yuck.
I've got a Desire HD; works very well for me - all the better for rooting and putting on Cyanogen instead of Sense!
HD2 is pretty old now. I would say of the 2 dhd
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100% Desire HD
maybe 200%
I had HD2 first and went from HD2 to Desire HD.
Desire HD is a much better phone and double so fast than HD2.
Desire HD or Sensation is today options

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