What the hell's the difference between the Leo and the Bravo (Desire) - HD2 General

htc.com/www/product/desire/specification.html
I noticed the Bravo has face recognition ? Can't see many other differences in the spec
Anything else different with this new model?

Android 2.1, smaller screen

now.. that phone is loook much better than X10

Guys what do you recommend, HD2 or Desire.!!

The Desire also has optical trackpad and AMOLED rather than LCD screen. If I was buying a new handset now, I would need to try both an HD2 and Desire side by side to make my choice.
I'm happy with my HD2 on HTC's 1.66 ROM, but the Desire looks nice and the Apps being released for Android would be enough to tempt me if the rumours of the HD2 getting WM7 weren't around.

Pretty much what he said ^

It looks nice.... the kind of thing my daugfhter would prefer over the HD" (she's already a veteran Hero user....) but.... its Android...

desire as android gets allot of free updates than windows mobile

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[COMP]HTC Legend Vs HTC Desire (which one ?)

Hello,
I am extremely fascinated with these two new phones by htc but i can't decide which one to buy. I have been watching videos all over the internet and reading the reviews from the MWC and other hands-on from many sites and still i am in dilemma. I LOVE the design of the legend but i want the power of Desire.
The reason i have this thread here is if anyone can tell me what are the differences between the two phones.
First of all i know the differences below, so if they are the ones you know i'd be gratefull if we don't fill the thread with the same ones over and over again.
1) 1Ghz Snapdragon Vs 600mhz MS7227
2) 3.7" Vs 3.2" Screen
3) 576MB Vs 384MB ram
4) Divx out of the box for desire no for legend.
Ok these are the differences i know for sure and i haven't found anything else. I am asking if anyone knows other ones especially if the ones i am gonna mention here are true or just rumors to get the customers buy the desire.
1) I read that the HTC Legend will not get the flashplayer 10.1 like Desire (will it at least have the flash lite like hero ?)
2) The browser used in the desire is the same as in the legend or is it an upgraded and better version of it ???
3) and something unrelated, is the difference in cpu so much of a problem for the legend???
Thanks and i hope someone will give me answers At least until april when i'll buy one of the two!!!
exactly the same boat, want the design of the Legend but with the screen and power of the Desire. Coming from a Touch HD, I don't really want to loose the screen size, think I'm still going for a Legend though, the Desire looks too much like a Touch HD!
Going to go SIM free though this time so I can swap it easily
One more difference between the 2 devices according to this thread is that the Legend will not have live wallpapers like the Desire.
Not much of a deal-breaker for most, I assume.
Regarding Flash 10.1, this article is worth a look.
Regardlesss, I'll be getting one of these for my wife when it releases. She needs a device that can take a beating. I gave her my Touch Diamond a few months ago. It was in near-mint condition at the time but now, the battery cover is scratched and a corner is broken off. I'm hoping the aluminum unibody design can help.
Personally, I'm pretty much set on getting the Desire for the sheer horsepower...
What about video recording mode?
We know the Desire will have HD recording but what about the Legend??
I hope it's not the wacky 320x240 of the Hero
vegetaleb said:
What about video recording mode?
We know the Desire will have HD recording but what about the Legend??
I hope it's not the wacky 320x240 of the Hero
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Any links to confirm the HD recording capabilities of the Desire?
This was a rumored feature and ever since the device was announce at MWC, there's been multiple sites saying that it doesn't record video at 720p.
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_s8500_wave_and_htc_desire_headed_to_tmobile_soon-news-1461.php
http://www.toptechreviews.net/mobil...ve-and-the-htc-desire-on-its-way-to-t-mobile/
This news source is the only one that lets me keep my hopes alive for 720p recording. But then, this isn't a feature that I'm too concerned about...
yes the 720p video recording doesn't really matters so much for me. as for the live wallpapers neither but it would be a nice touch to have. also i think it WILL have live wallpapers, i read somewhere that it has but even if it doesn't since the gpu is the same as the nexus it won't be an issue to port them to the Legend. my main concerns are for performance especially and the internet stuff.
Another question is if they support wifi routering or at least tethering
The Legend is a sexy piece of hardware on the outside.
I will buy the next version once they upgrade the inside more with a Cortex chip instead of a cheapo one
I was very exited for both the Legend and Desire but yesterday when I red the review of GsmArena about the Amoled screen of the Nexus 1...I think I will take a Hero now
Why? Because they said the Amoled screen of N1 and most probably Legend/Desire is unreadable under direct sunlight
As long as I remember the Hero has been well reviewed about this particular detail which is important for me
Even if there is a lot of disaturation in direct sunlight there is no way you can't use the phone. and are you going to watch a movie or do something which takes time while standing in sunshine ??? i guess not
im so confused about which 1 2 get.
i definately want the HTC Legend as i had a Hero and like staying with my own.
but the power of the Desire is amaizing.
I don't understand why there is ANY debate about this at all. The Desire is better than the Legend in every spec. Infact, the Legend doesn't seem to be a big upgrade over the Hero imo, unless I am missing something?
yeah but desire looks like it was chewed,swallowed and digested compared to the legend...i mean desire is not ugly at all,but legend kicks ass....and umm does any of you guys maybe know the price range for any of those?
well according to clove.uk
HTC Desire = 464euro plus 25euro shipping(cyprus fedex)
HTC Legend = 426euro plus shipping
the gap between them is so little that makes me even more confused!!!
Isn't it too soon to have final prices?
The Desire and Legend will be released in mid-April right?
these prices are for preorder!!!
The design of this baby is so full of win, that I am willing to compromise with the specs.
kugelfish said:
The design of this baby is so full of win, that I am willing to compromise with the specs.
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me too....
I like the construction quality. This thing can take one serious beating be fore tossing in the towel. Would be nice to have that with the desire.
i wish the desire would come for cdma. at least the scorpion looks like a sprint phone. i fell like android+HTC will make me upgrade phones every few months. i wonder if i a cell company will do 6 month contracts. lol
i reallly dont care about looks, i have the G1 and thought it was the most beautiful piece of equipment when i got it. i hope the new phones will keep call funtionality
The thing that's confusing me is the price
the desire is only 10 euros up from legend ?
http://www.clove.co.uk/category.aspx?department=HTC&category=591602F7-C32B-44D8-859D-F9230F032E7E
looks like clove is kinda drunk

[Q] HTC Desire or Android on HD2 (Loves big screen)

Hello Friends
I am from India. I have been looking for EVO 4g since long time, but its not available in India. finally decided to go with other one and got stuck between HD2 & Desire. I want to have HTC Desire because want to have an Android with joystick & crispy display, but like HD2's big screen, video recording at 30 frame/s and few more features. finally i decided to buy HD2 and planning to have Android on it. I am a software developer and it will allow me to do some stuff for both platforms. Am i right??? whatever i have learn't just because of you guys and want to know your views before i go for HD2.
So HD2 with dual OS will work fine or if i am to choose only one OS (Android my preference) i should go for HTC Desire?
HD2 is great because it gives you so much freedom to do whatever u want. Just look around xda and you'll find threads for Windows ROMS Android ROMS (Sd or NAND installs) and theres even some of the latest gingerbread versions round. Dual booting too is now possible so go with HD2 and use the search bar. Endless possibilities with HD2. you'll love it
Well my girlfriend has the Desire.its a very reliable piece of kit,battery life is great,3.7inch screen,720p recording,you can root and put different builds on it but its a native android device,i have a HD2,Simular internals to the desire,no 720p tho however we do have a duel flash wich is better for taking pictures,4.3inch screen,You can boot several different OS.Duel Boot,Theres no other phone like it,The possibilitys are Endless with this thing however The decision is yours
If you wanted an Evo 4G then you can actually download the Android build for the HD2. It also has the bigger screen and now comes with clockwork mod so you can do anything the Desire can do but with the HD2 you have more options like Miui, MyTouch, Evo 4G, Desire HD/Z, Samsung Galaxy S (Gingerbread) or any other builds you may like, they are all available on the HD2.
in my opinion both phones suck dont buy them at all
htc desire is a useless old phone with bad battery and old version htc sense interface that makes it slow an unfunctional
hd2 also is a winmo phone and changing it to android makes it even worse
bad battery drain
connections issue
and lack of screen color support(256k not 16m) makes the android looks symbian
so if you want to have a real phone wait for evo 4g or htc desire or...
but not hd2
m2shakiba said:
in my opinion both phones suck dont buy them at all
htc desire is a useless old phone with bad battery and old version htc sense interface that makes it slow an unfunctional
hd2 also is a winmo phone and changing it to android makes it even worse
bad battery drain
connections issue
and lack of screen color support(256k not 16m) makes the android looks symbian
so if you want to have a real phone wait for evo 4g or htc desire or...
but not hd2
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No connection issues for me for HD2 running NAND
No battery issues minus the 1 60mA bug (read your messages and it won't effect your battery life much)
Screen color doesn't mean ****, Android looks flawless. I bet if someone found a workaround for 16m vs 256k you wouldn't even notice the difference.
He was saying wait for the Desire HD by the way --- Great phone, but terrible look appeal, Evo 4G looks like poop. HD2 is the best phone on the US Market, hands-down.
AndHD2 said:
If you wanted an Evo 4G then you can actually download the Android build for the HD2. It also has the bigger screen and now comes with clockwork mod so you can do anything the Desire can do but with the HD2 you have more options like Miui, MyTouch, Evo 4G, Desire HD/Z, Samsung Galaxy S (Gingerbread) or any other builds you may like, they are all available on the HD2.
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What makes you think the desire doesn't have all those builds? It does... it probably even has more roms available.
Anyways, to the op... if you want to also boot into winmo and maybe wp7 in the future, the hd2 is a good phone. If you just want Android, you'd be better off getting a native Android phone. Native Android phones have more colors, better battery, and overall can run Android better once their rooted and tweaked properly. But they will never be able to run winmo (or wp7 in future hopefully) like the hd2 can.
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Guys...why all the replies today to a thread started last August huh ?
I think the OP might have moved on by now....
I mean to be honest HD2 is the best phone for any os. It is a beast with android, a monstar with windows. Big screen and awesome colors, amazing picture quality. All in all it is your best bet. Hd2 is also cheaper than desire.
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m2shakiba said:
in my opinion both phones suck dont buy them at all
htc desire is a useless old phone with bad battery and old version htc sense interface that makes it slow an unfunctional
hd2 also is a winmo phone and changing it to android makes it even worse
bad battery drain
connections issue
and lack of screen color support(256k not 16m) makes the android looks symbian
so if you want to have a real phone wait for evo 4g or htc desire or...
but not hd2
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Why are you on here,i think you contridicted yourself in many ways,You say desire sucks but you say wait for a real phone like a htc desire,you say wait for Evo wich has exacly the same screen as a HD2,The lack of colour support,i cant see that being a major issue,the other thing is its actually 262k,Basically the difference is the 16m will give more depth to photos etc but also consider the resolution and brightness of the screen, I've seen a few 16m colour displays with poor resolution(nokia 5800 for example,its a symbian,Samsung Galexy Spica,an Android,both with 16m)and while the colours look great the image isn't as sharp! Good resolution first, then consider the colours i,4.3 inch and 480x800 Res(this goes for Evo aswell)image quility is better than half the 16m units and nothing is a bad as what symbian is,ive had an Amoled Samung i8910 with 16m and a 360x640 res and that was worse than a HD2 screen,This screen even beats my old Hero,its not all about Colours,Battery i think is the same as windows mo,just depends on the kernal and on most smart phones,battery life isnt fantastic anyway,I think you shoulda thought that post through a little better
Marct77 said:
Guys...why all the replies today to a thread started last August huh ?
I think the OP might have moved on by now....
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Oh, wow, I didn't pay attention to the date of the op... I just saw a bunch of replies from today so I assumed it was recent.
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thinking about switching from Desire to HD2

I own a Desire and thinking about switching to the HD2 because I like the big screen. However, there are some things I would like to know:
- Is Android 2.2 running from the SD-card just as fast as it would be if NAND? And is is just as fast as it runs on the desire?
- Are the colors (especially the deep blacks) on the Desire (AMOLED) THAT much better then the HD2?
- Are there any more major advantages/disadvantages about making the switch from the Desire to the HD2?
If you would wait for a little time, a bootloader to boot android from NAND on the HD2 will be released.
Concerning the other questions, I can't provide any help to you, as I only own a HTC HD2.
Btw, why do you ask that question in two different threads?
I can't post a link to the NAND discussion to PREVENT SPAM...
if you want a bigger screen running android you would be beter off just getting the desire hd
I have both phones and the desire is the newest of my phones because I liked a mates desire that he recently bought. I thought that when the desire came in the mail that it would be my main phone but I was wrong. The screen on the Desire is nice but it is way over the top with colour, the colour is is too unrealistic.
The HD2's screen size wins over hands down and you can pick the HD2 up cheap now over buying the Desire HD which looks like it doesn't have much more to offer than the HD2 other than the camera and the new screen type.
I also own both phones, I Like the HD2 for some things, and the Desire for others. But the Desire has become my daily driver since I got it. I Like the screen, and am able to run it at a lot lower brightness, than the HD2, saving power. I think the biggest difference is the weight, the HD2 is all metal and a lot bigger, the plastic back on the Desire really reduces the weight.

[Q] HD2 vs Desire?

Which one runs Android better/faster? The logical answer would be Desire since it's made to run Android, but the hd2 seems really fast also. They both cost the same, which one is better? I'm tending to the hd2 for that awesome screen, I'm sick of my iPhone's small screen..
freemini said:
Which one runs Android better/faster? The logical answer would be Desire since it's made to run Android, but the hd2 seems really fast also. They both cost the same, which one is better? I'm tending to the hd2 for that awesome screen, I'm sick of my iPhone's small screen..
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Hd2 boots android from the sd card basically which tends to make it slow and also the battery life on it using android sucks big time in comparison to desire.
The desire on the other hand has a newer processor and boots android straight from nand. Hence it is more power efficient and android works pretty well on it
But the HD2 has better RAM and ROM capabilities.
And the option to boot many Operating systems at a time
Also the HD2 nand will be out soon.
So its basically left up to you dude.
Do a nice comparison between the two.
i am sure you know what your needs are
NAND can't come quick enough for me; I'm getting really tired of the SD mounting instability.
Personally, I have 0 problems with Android running from the SD card. I did have a few issues with earlier builds, but haven't had any problems for a couple of months now. The newest builds seem even faster and have better battery life, so it's all good!
I couldn't stand to go to a Desire after the HD2. I seriously didn't see any performance benefits when I played with one (in fairness, the HD2 seems quicker and smoother to me), and yes.... the massive screen is difficult to top!
Unless it's a Desire HD, I'd stick with the HD2.
Desire has 3.7 AMOLED/SLCD screen while HD2 has 4.3 65536 colors TFT screen.
It's hard to decide.
HD2
my friend had a desire and it just couldnt match up with the development on the HD2
however, for a pure phone and not to play everyday, Desire might suite you
HD2 is pure experimental and fun
twilightgod said:
Desire has 3.7 AMOLED/SLCD screen while HD2 has 4.3 65536 colors TFT screen.
It's hard to decide.
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The 65k colors on HD2 is not the screen capability, its actually WinMo that can display max of 65k colors..

Desire HD or HTC HD2

I want to buy a new smartphone. What is the best?
Is there other options because those phones are both nice but there are newer ones with dual core about the same price as those phones. If you want versatility then the HD2 is the phone for you. if you want pure android from the door and dont really want the hassle of messing around then I would go withe the Desire HD. I have the HD2 and i love the phone alot of development for it but it is getting old. I would go with the Desire HD.
czarsuperstar......... Define versatility.
Uh...
Desire HD has newer CPU and GPU.
So... Desire HD/
fabicio said:
I want to buy a new smartphone. What is the best?
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How about Sensation?
rockztahh said:
How about Sensation?
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Grip of death issue on the Sensation...and the nail to the coffin for the Sensation is that other brands do offer better per dollar value...such as SGSII. lol.
Between HD2 and Desire HD, go with the Desire HD, its a far newer phone with improved CPU and GPU as well as other small tweaks such as the camera, most importantly, a far more superior operating system...HD2 had a lot of issues with the digitaliser...
fabicio said:
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If I were you I would not consider hanging with these phones. Though very popular phone but...I would put 10% more on the top of my budget n bought the new dual core phones like sensation or GS2.
I got DHD now. I like it but there are couple of other phones more powerful, better GPU and better battery life.
Decision is yours: If no last options I would prefer DHD far better specs than HD2
My wife has Samsung Galaxy. Everything just seems to 'work' on that phone compared to my HD. Dont be blinkered into choosing an HTC phone based on past glories.
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l0w said:
My wife has Samsung Galaxy. Everything just seems to 'work' on that phone compared to my HD. Dont be blinkered into choosing an HTC phone based on past glories.
Sent from my HTC HD so may contain typos, bugs and, if the battery lasts, pearls of....(battery 0%)
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I'm also tempted to buy a S2 galaxy.
People b*tch about it being plastic but you have very good plastic and bad metal if you know what I mean, as long as the chassis is sturdy.
Also rf-signals (gps, wifi, bt and gsm (still a phone)) pass through plastic more easily than metal.
For one I would not buy a HD2 anymore if it would be your only phone.
Like someone said, hardware issues. Head down to the hd2 forum and you will see loads of people complaining about bad blocks, digitizers etc. things that are not really replacable etc.
As being a 'toy' phone then yes the HD2 is fantastic.
I now have the DHD but I'm still not sure that I like it. I also have a ZTE blade (yes the cheap thing) and it beats the DHD in wifi, gps and loudspeaker (as being able to hear something not like a tweeter on the DHD)
The DHD on the other hand is faster, has a better camera (still seeing pink spot, check a grey wall and bump up colour and contrast) and larger screen (did I say that the ZTE screen was brighter also?).
So it all depends on your needs.
I would love to testdrive a couple of phones and compare them for a week.
There are 2 things about SGS2 which wins over Sensation. It's Super Amoled bright screen and it's light weight!
Downside: very cheap looking phone! seems like bought from a $2.00 shop lol
Sensation: It's got sense 3.0 because it make sense! a bit lagging If I'm not wrong my DHD runs smoother than HTC sensation. > May be they have fixed with the new update!
NOT to overwhelm OP with these ideologies . Ya should have these things in mind before buying your SMART PHONE. Or else you'll end up regrating. Now we say HD2 is old 2,3 months later you'll say to Sensation or GS2. It's all Money and Marketing but on top of that you should consider your own needs and requirements from a smart phone.
l0w said:
My wife has Samsung Galaxy. Everything just seems to 'work' on that phone compared to my HD. Dont be blinkered into choosing an HTC phone based on past glories.
Sent from my HTC HD so may contain typos, bugs and, if the battery lasts, pearls of....(battery 0%)
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hmmm...HTC just isnt what they used to be...disappointed in their Evo 3D...and the Sensation...dont get me wrong...Ive had 5 HTCs in the past...absolute fanatic...but yea...
Diamond II > Nexus One > Wildfire > Desire > Desire HD
fabicio said:
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I have been a member of the HD2 section of this forum for over a year, and until last week i owned 2 x HD2 phones.
Trust me.....get a HTC Desire!!!!
Owned my desire for a week and it's BRILLIANT compared to HD2 problems.
matt
As few have mentioned the DHD has better hardware spec than the HD2.
What nobody has mentioned though is the screen is way better on the DHD especially in terms of accuracy of typing, thats what i've found anyway...
If they are your only 2 choices defo the DHD in my experience...
DHD is better than HD2,they are uncomparable,but why not another newer and more powerful dual core phone? The two of them are out of fashion now.
I think the Desire HD is still a very good phone compared to the newer generation phones (SGS2, Sensation) and a viable option. It depends on what features you need though.
Why?
-Dualcore does not bring any real advantages right now. When apps really profit from it there will be better phones. + it usually uses more power than singlecore.
So the speed improvement compared to a DHD is very minimal and probably not noticable in general.
-DHD has one of the best custom rom support. From different Sense 2.1 and Sense 3 roms to Cyanogen or MIUI variations you can flash what you want on your DHD. Custom roms on the newer phones are still in early developement.
-Software from both SGS2 and Sensation isnt quite there imho. Touchwiz is well... touchwiz, and SGS2 has some problems with 3d games and overheats sometimes. And somehow the sensation just doesnt feel that smooth (i had the feeling sense 3 on my DHD runs smoother^^) we can only hope updates will correct that.
I could go on. But in my opinion upgrading from a DHD to one of the newer phones is something you should only do if you have more than enough money on your bank.
But you're in another situation. You need a new phone and if money is an issue i think the DHD is still a good option (forget the HD2 its just too old). Its not without flaws but neither are the newer phones.
I will stick to my DHD for at least another year. But if I would be in your spot(and money wasnt an issue) right now id probably go for the Sensation with a good custom rom (they should be out soon with the bootloader unlocked now).
The SGS2 is very good, but there are some things that are dealbrakers for me. For example the screen. Everyones praising it to heaven but i think its just awefull to look at^^ Colors are way off. And stuff mentioned above..
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For example the screen. Everyones praising it to heaven but i think its just awefull to look at^^ Colors are way off. And stuff mentioned above..
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Ah, I'm not alone in thinking that then? Full brightness, looks fine - anything less and the SGSII has a green tint to it. Yuck.
I've got a Desire HD; works very well for me - all the better for rooting and putting on Cyanogen instead of Sense!
HD2 is pretty old now. I would say of the 2 dhd
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100% Desire HD
maybe 200%
I had HD2 first and went from HD2 to Desire HD.
Desire HD is a much better phone and double so fast than HD2.
Desire HD or Sensation is today options

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