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Qik video quality SUCKS

So i've put a few videos on qik's site, and the quality SUCKS. I thought it was actually supposed to look good but it's extremely pixelated, even in HQ mode.

Which camera did you use? 8MP is on the back one but the one in front is 1.3, just enough to convey your emotions and face more than be high def or anything.

thecodemonk said:
Which camera did you use? 8MP is on the back one but the one in front is 1.3, just enough to convey your emotions and face more than be high def or anything.
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Videos taken with the one in the back look no better then ones taken with the one in the front.
Here are two videos i took to compare the quality. Taken and uploaded over 3G.
Rear camera: http://qik.com/video/7248873
Front camera: http://qik.com/video/7248546
Are those trees or are they green blobs?

I'm really hoping that the video quality is a matter of HTC or Qik compressing the ever loving hell out of the final result. If so, I sure hope it can be changed via root.

i agree, i tried to stream with the 8mp cam on as high a quality as i could get and still, the video comes out pixelated and poor.

The video coming out of the camera isn't that hot either: http://www.flickr.com/photos/mrono/4679553815/

Mecha2142 said:
I'm really hoping that the video quality is a matter of HTC or Qik compressing the ever loving hell out of the final result. If so, I sure hope it can be changed via root.
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I also hope this, can anyone confirm one way or the other, where/when is it compressed, upon recording, or while saving? Is it fixable; it does seem pretty poor for a High Definition camera, no?

Here are two videos i took to compare the quality. Taken and uploaded over 3G.
Rear camera: http://qik.com/video/7248873
Front camera: http://qik.com/video/7248546
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that's pretty crap

the extra 5 a month is supposed to allow greater resolution. go figure.
screw them. fring with skype is at least that good, and its free.
someone will come out with a free alternative, albeit with ads, i'm sure

Wow, that is terrible. WTF Qik / Sprint, ugh, you would think 720p HD it would be a whole lot better.

Sucks but about what I expected. Bandwidth isn't free.

I think they look good

mrono said:
The video coming out of the camera isn't that hot either: http://www.flickr.com/photos/mrono/4679553815/
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what exactly are you expecting from your cell phone? that looks pretty darn good in my opinion. Sure it's not a 720p DVD quality, but again, what are you expecting from you cell phone?
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Aridon said:
Sucks but about what I expected. Bandwidth isn't free.
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sure, but as we are in a 'premium' demo you would expect more. I would expect this quality from free qik but not for paying monthly for it.
http://www.phonenews.com/qik-detail...-on-evo-4g-free-access-until-june-15th-11391/

720p Recording on HD2 with Android

Well since Android is progressing well and they've started getting the camera working (I know this from HTC-Linux's Twitter) and since Android can actually play 720p as opposed to when Winmo is running it can't. And with the camera hack for the Nexus One that allowed it to record 720p I was just theorizing that there may be a possibility of recording 720p on HD2 while you're running Android? To me it would make sense but I know nothing of hardware specs vs software vs decoding speed vs screen resolution so I was curious as to what all other people reading this thread or Developers may have to say to this.

Bump...........

Indeed it would be nice to have HD recording on HD2, but you'll still have to take into consideration the fact that it is still early and lots of other bugs need to be fixed before such "luxurious" details can be looked over by the devs.

Not to mention the fact that the sound on the video recorder on the hd2 is bloody awful to say the least. I used to have an n95 and that wiped the floor with the hd2. I would be more interested in better sound.

The HD2's photo quality is limited by the lens, not the operating system on the phone. The N95 features a Carl Zeiss lens which enables it to take great pictures. Resolution is highly overrated when it comes to photo quality.

polo735 said:
The HD2's photo quality is limited by the lens, not the operating system on the phone. The N95 features a Carl Zeiss lens which enables it to take great pictures. Resolution is highly overrated when it comes to photo quality.
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elgrego4 said:
Not to mention the fact that the sound on the video recorder on the hd2 is bloody awful to say the least. I used to have an n95 and that wiped the floor with the hd2. I would be more interested in better sound.
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im not with you in this
see (dont forget to put it at high quality 480p on youtube for best quality)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UX6Jx9gDR_I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWlHUFnvKP8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfpmqPJwcMM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cba7yo5SwNk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfpmqPJwcMM
one of the best videos i recorded
but i also want 720p

I know I may sound stupid and I'll accept peoples input if this does but I just think that if the Nexus One camera can get a hack to support 720p and the HD2 was relatively released in the same 3-4 month period (may seem long I know) it just makes me think that the HD2's camera should qualify for getting the same hack when running android and yes it does deal with winmo because HD2 can't run 720p videos normally through the Winmo OS but as demonstrated the Linux Kernel on HD2 was able to play a 720p HD video.

Just tried the new Desire V4 Build and it indeed has camera support so if any dev wants to look into it by all means.

polo735 said:
The HD2's photo quality is limited by the lens, not the operating system on the phone. The N95 features a Carl Zeiss lens which enables it to take great pictures. Resolution is highly overrated when it comes to photo quality.
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Nah, I would bet it's the sensor more than anything.

I'm not talking about the pic quality, its the sound quality. It is very distorted and tinny. I was at a concert with my gf who recorded the same song on her average sony phone. The difference in the quality was shocking.

I actually think the video and picture performance are quite good, then again I came from a touch HD which was terrible. There is no hardware reason why this phone cannot do, in fact the hardware can defo record / decode HD but how easy it will be to get this to work in Andriod is anyones guess.
I am actually planning to keep this phone a while as IMHO it is still the best looking phone out there, the droids are too clunky and the samsungs are about 3 years behind in design.
I'm hoping we can get a full working full installable ROM soon so I can ditch winmo altogether.
Then again I only have 11 months left on my HD2 so something else may catch my eye - I dont think it will be winmo7 though as it looks dull as fnck.

polo735 said:
The HD2's photo quality is limited by the lens, not the operating system on the phone. The N95 features a Carl Zeiss lens which enables it to take great pictures. Resolution is highly overrated when it comes to photo quality.
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yes the n95s lens was a zeiss, but that was just a name!
The lens was cheap thin glass, just like any other mobile phone lens ever made. There is a reason zeiss prime lenses go for £20k and upwards, I agree with you on that!
and your spot on about resolution being no way near as important as a good sized sensor, and good optics.
But one of the main reasons mobile phone video looks so crap, is the low resolution its always been recorded at! You look at some phones that can record 720 and it looks a damn sight better than the vga recordings, Mostly because It doesn't need to be stretched out and destroted like low res' video does

I definately haven't experienced problems with the mike for the HD2, I've recorded videos with my friends and they come out very well in reference to sound and there IS alot of sound in a concert so I wouldn't be surprised if audio you recorded at a concert would sound bad.

lonelykatana said:
yes the n95s lens was a zeiss, but that was just a name!
The lens was cheap thin glass, just like any other mobile phone lens ever made. There is a reason zeiss prime lenses go for £20k and upwards, I agree with you on that!
and your spot on about resolution being no way near as important as a good sized sensor, and good optics.
But one of the main reasons mobile phone video looks so crap, is the low resolution its always been recorded at! You look at some phones that can record 720 and it looks a damn sight better than the vga recordings, Mostly because It doesn't need to be stretched out and destroted like low res' video does
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I always did wonder why the HD2's video quality only went up to VGA even though it has a WVGA screen, 0.o.

skrizzyboy said:
I definately haven't experienced problems with the mike for the HD2, I've recorded videos with my friends and they come out very well in reference to sound and there IS alot of sound in a concert so I wouldn't be surprised if audio you recorded at a concert would sound bad.
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What im trying to point out is that lots of other (older, cheaper) phones record better sound. My missus used a w995 and It is much better sound.

granted sound probably isnt the HD2's stongpoint but the video performance is comparable with other models. Yes it could be better but it will only get better though enabling it in Android.

Any update on the 720p on htc hd2 ??? I would pay the person 100 us dollars if they get the 720p recording on htc hd2 with android !!

skrizzyboy said:
I always did wonder why the HD2's video quality only went up to VGA even though it has a WVGA screen, 0.o.
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lol! mine records in WVGA(800x480) and has the option to record 720p(1280x720) but when i try it camera shuts down.. so the best a can record is WVGA plus the frame rate seems to be a bit smoother than normal HD2 VGA recording

Dani01c said:
lol! mine records in WVGA(800x480) and has the option to record 720p(1280x720) but when i try it camera shuts down.. so the best a can record is WVGA plus the frame rate seems to be a bit smoother than normal HD2 VGA recording
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how does it have that option? and cant that just be a vid codec error?(which can be fixed)

Any news about 720p recording in android?Is a driver still in development? I would like to try wp7 only for the hd recording ability,seems good

OTA Froyo Recording Quality.

Can somebody record some shots using the updated camcorder app in the ota? It would be really interesting to see the "improvements" made by htc.

am uploading something right now... ill post when done its just a test ...am using the 2.2 that just came out

yes plz audio on camcorder is the most fail

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M829mZlnnic
i just did it random i dint even check the audio thing haha
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i dotn know if i did something wrng but its not showing the 720 p on the youtube.. maybe it takes a while to processs :l

magicalan said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M829mZlnnic
i just did it random i dint even check the audio thing haha
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i dotn know if i did something wrng but its not showing the 720 p on the youtube.. maybe it takes a while to processs :l
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Check the codec you recorded with; if it was h.264 you can only capture @480p

Not looking to good....maybe check the code try again.... oh well maybe the devs will make better.

Yeah check your settings. If that was 720p I don't see much different. Hopefully your settings weren't right.
Sent from the dark side of the moon.

there it is go to 720p....it was processing

edtate said:
Check the codec you recorded with; if it was h.264 you can only capture @480p
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Evo video FPS is killing me. Subpar

edtate said:
Check the codec you recorded with; if it was h.264 you can only capture @480p
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Got this from another forum,
aznmode said:
When i select h264 as the compression I can only go up to 800 x 400 resolution. I have to select mpeg4 decoding to be able to record at 720p. Anyone else notice?
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The audio is ALOT better on the vid.

All I can say is, 24fps my ASS! *sigh*

Is there a way to just disable the video camera completely, because with that type of quality, if I ever did record something by accident, I'd have to kill myself.

On a "meh" note, the h.264 800x480 recording is very smooth and looks pretty good.
Not 720p, which still is pretty much what it was before, but at least it's something.

Really guys? I think it looks pretty decent. It's still no iPhone 4, but when he gets outside it definitely looks a bit smoother than it did before, and detail is a bit better as well. I remember before it would look like the camera had trouble even recording in 720 and would hiccup every few seconds. It may only be 24fps, but at least it's a CONSISTENT 24fps. don't forget every movie you've ever seen was filmed at 24fps... And yea, the indoor portion kinda sucked but that's due to the crap sensor they put in the evo.

while not recording the actual image on the screen looks a little smoother,but to my eyes it seems when you record its actually worst then before

audio is sooooooooooooooooooooo much better

AMDman18 said:
Really guys? I think it looks pretty decent. It's still no iPhone 4, but when he gets outside it definitely looks a bit smoother than it did before, and detail is a bit better as well. I remember before it would look like the camera had trouble even recording in 720 and would hiccup every few seconds. It may only be 24fps, but at least it's a CONSISTENT 24fps. don't forget every movie you've ever seen was filmed at 24fps... And yea, the indoor portion kinda sucked but that's due to the crap sensor they put in the evo.
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What are you talking about? It's using an 8 megapixel version of the EXACT same sensor they used in the iPhone 4 by the SAME manufacturer, and unlike most camera sensors in smartphones today, it's actually backlit. Please stop blaming the hardware before recognizing the real root of the problem.

AMDman18 said:
Really guys? I think it looks pretty decent. It's still no iPhone 4, but when he gets outside it definitely looks a bit smoother than it did before, and detail is a bit better as well. I remember before it would look like the camera had trouble even recording in 720 and would hiccup every few seconds. It may only be 24fps, but at least it's a CONSISTENT 24fps. don't forget every movie you've ever seen was filmed at 24fps... And yea, the indoor portion kinda sucked but that's due to the crap sensor they put in the evo.
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Ya, but pro cameras don't drop frame rates in low light.
I've seen my EVO drop to 8-12 FPS while recording in low light. Almost impossible to watch.

**** man i've given up on evo as a recording device.. what a waste of space..

improvements to video with Froyo

What exactly did HTC fix or improve in video recording? Running stock 2.1 every 5 seconds i had sound problems where it would sort of pause for about one second and now on a different evo with 2.2 same problem. Anyone else experienced this?
This is only when recording with 720p.

goldt said:
What exactly did HTC fix or improve in video recording? Running stock 2.1 every 5 seconds i had sound problems where it would sort of pause for about one second and now on a different evo with 2.2 same problem. Anyone else experienced this?
This is only when recording with 720p.
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I had this problem in 2.1. Haven't had a chance to test it in 2.2. I'll try to post back when I have tested it.

Not having your problem, but a bigger one. Fresh 2.2 - 3.0.1 and shot a lot of outdoor videos this week in Hawaii using lots of different settings: h.254/480 and MPEG4/720 - It all looks like ****!!! Therefore, a much bigger problem.

Hrshycro said:
Not having your problem, but a bigger one. Fresh 2.2 - 3.0.1 and shot a lot of outdoor videos this week in Hawaii using lots of different settings: h.254/480 and MPEG4/720 - It all looks like ****!!! Therefore, a much bigger problem.
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evo is a terrible recording device. The software is junk, the parts are junk. Theres no end to how frustrated I am with the audio quality of the videos recorded. Instead of lugging around a dedicated video recorder and a phone I think I might just get an iphone 4.. I love recording videos and uploading them to youtube/facebook for people to see my life @ concerts,clubs.. its just retarded how htc boned us and cheaped out on one of the most important selling points of this phone.. I feel ripped off.. slapped in the face..
Hell the ipod nano 5th generation has better video/audio quality then evo's "720 P"

crakerjaks said:
evo is a terrible recording device. The software is junk, the parts are junk. Theres no end to how frustrated I am with the audio quality of the videos recorded. Instead of lugging around a dedicated video recorder and a phone I think I might just get an iphone 4.. I love recording videos and uploading them to youtube/facebook for people to see my life @ concerts,clubs.. its just retarded how htc boned us and cheaped out on one of the most important selling points of this phone.. I feel ripped off.. slapped in the face..
Hell the ipod nano 5th generation has better video/audio quality then evo's "720 P"
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are you serious, your complaining about the specs and the capability of a CELL PHONE?! you ungrateful bastard, go buy a ipod nano then. theres nothing worse that someone that cant appreciate today's technology.

crakerjaks said:
evo is a terrible recording device. The software is junk, the parts are junk. Theres no end to how frustrated I am with the audio quality of the videos recorded. Instead of lugging around a dedicated video recorder and a phone I think I might just get an iphone 4.. I love recording videos and uploading them to youtube/facebook for people to see my life @ concerts,clubs.. its just retarded how htc boned us and cheaped out on one of the most important selling points of this phone.. I feel ripped off.. slapped in the face..
Hell the ipod nano 5th generation has better video/audio quality then evo's "720 P"
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I agree with this. The video recording on the EVO is a total joke. 720p my ass! More like 120p.
Droid X and iPhone 4 are worlds apart in this category. Sad!
Personally, I don't think the photo camera is all that good either. In fact I think its also **** for a so-called 8MP camera.
Thanks HTC!

Htc needs to fix this....a majority can be fixed threw software...lazy htc ...we sould email or boycott or something.

jcalba89 said:
are you serious, your complaining about the specs and the capability of a CELL PHONE?! you ungrateful bastard, go buy a ipod nano then. theres nothing worse that someone that cant appreciate today's technology.
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I tempered my expectations because I knew it was a phone, but when two of your selling points are 8mp camera and 720p recording they should be decent.
I have had good luck using the camera, and I gotten great shots (especially considering it is a phone) But the stock camcorder was HORRIBLE, and it makes 720p fans cry!
Cyanogen's rom has made video recording better for me.

jcalba89 said:
are you serious, your complaining about the specs and the capability of a CELL PHONE?! you ungrateful bastard, go buy a ipod nano then. theres nothing worse that someone that cant appreciate today's technology.
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calm down dad... theres nothing worse then someone who can't appreciate proper implementation of today's technology..

lmao @ evo-bashing and comparing to gayphone4 hahaha...
I bet you genius's haven't even taken off the film covering the camera and are still crying like a bunch of little kids on x-mas because you didn't get your easy bake oven... my 720p recordings come out crystal clear with awesome sound quality...
ib4l

Yeah I'm going to say that the video quality on the EVO is fantastic but there's a lot of work to be done.
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I use a camera for pictures and a camcorder for vids would never depend on a cell phone for memories i want to keep.
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weezer562 said:
I use a camera for pictures and a camcorder for vids would never depend on a cell phone for memories i want to keep.
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That's what people without good video quality will say! You dont hear this from iPhone poeple and I work and take phone calls from them everyday.
They complain about multi tasking..... Give me better video HTC

jdmsohc22 said:
lmao @ evo-bashing and comparing to gayphone4 hahaha...
I bet you genius's haven't even taken off the film covering the camera and are still crying like a bunch of little kids on x-mas because you didn't get your easy bake oven... my 720p recordings come out crystal clear with awesome sound quality...
ib4l
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This genius took the plastic off in the store.
This genius is also a professional photographer and knows the limitations of cameras and lenses so I expected little from a cell phone, but I experienced less than I expected.
The video is not 720p, that is a downright lie.
The 8mp camera, yes it is 8mp, but it is poor quality.
I run CM6 and it has a slightly better take on the cam and camcorder.
Even after multiple attempts to adjust the media_profiles.xml and the different configuration files there is little we can get from it. There is an entire thread about this is 28 pages long.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=711808
And I almost forgot, obvious troll is obvious.

Nexus 4 720p/1080p video samples...

I know the device isn't out just yet, but I was wondering if anyone has seen a sample of Nexus 4 camcorder yet? (Front & Back). I rely heavily on my cameras for work & for other reasons & not to bash the G-Nex, but the camera sensor on this device is a little underwhelming to say the least. I heard the camera hardware was based off of the AT&T 8mp Optimus G, but I'm not sure if that's an actual spitting image of what we can expect from the N4.
Any links or input would be greatly appreciated in advanced. Worst case scenario, 10 days isn't too far away!

Here you have some video samples:
Hope is what are you looking for :good:

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Here you have some video samples:
Hope is what are you looking for :good:
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Thanks sooo much for the quick reply with content. The actually image quality is quite an improvement, but my problem lies with the FPS & the audio to a certain extent. I wasn't expecting perfection, so I'm overall happy with what we have here. I'm sure it'll get better between camera mods & software updates. Thanks again.

The mic makes the video so crap, I tried to record video with my GS2 once upon a time and it was far worse than my old iPhone 4 which had such amazing audio quality. I mean I went to Reading last year and the iPhone 4 was super clear, picked up good bass and sounded great but the GS2 just sounded like I was rubbing a plastic bag over the mic and the bass just killed the mic all together.
So if the audio sucks then there is no point to it shooting video tbh. I just have a separate camera though so it doesn't bother me too much though.

I would love it if someone uploaded the original video file from the phone. Youtube seems to always use an aggressive compression on user uploads, I rarely see good 1080p videos on the site, even from pro cameras.

Make sure to go fullscreen when watching the video and turn your youtube video to 720p HD.

Can anyone help ....
I get HEAVY compression artifacts on the video recordings at 1080p on the nexus 4 itself - even when I upload to the PC. The sound and video is compressed sounding too.