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Internet Dialing - VOIP

I have been trying to find an answer to this all over the forums. Has any of the cooked roms enabled the VOIP capabilities back into the phone?
I am using the VZW 6800 and would love to be able to dial over wifi with my asterisk server. I know VZW removes this feature, but I have not found out whether any of the cooked roms, including DCD's roms have added this back in.
If anyone knows, or has used this feature, please let me know your experience.
Thank you!

Check the last pages of this thread and you should be good to go. Over wifi things are good but over 3g it's not.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=299950&highlight=voip

I have gotten the voip stuff working on my sprint mogul w/ the sero plan (connected to gizmo), but there are a few things that keep me from using it:
a. even though it *does* work over the EVDO connection, with both evdo and wifi the outgoing audio is really clippy (both bluetooth and wired headsets tested)
b. for some reason, when I have voip enabled I can't get phone service half the time... it's like I put a 6db attenuator on the receiver and it only gets service if I have really good signal to the tower
c. the audio is so quiet that it's virtually unusable that way
follow the above linked thread, I think that's where I got my info as well.
Also, keep in mind that the 'net connection you use has to be initialized when you try to make/receive a call (use PIE if need be, particularly when using the phone's internet connection rather than wifi), and in order to make outgoing calls, you'll have to make your own dialplan. (edit ipdialplan.xml)
I can post mine, if you want, I just don't have it with me. if you would like me to, PM me ('cause I might forget to check this thread again) and I'll post it here.

Any Way to Make the HD2 Work Like UMA?

I've been trying to search for a solution to this, and haven't found anything yet on this topic. I keep seeing SIP and programs that require you to connect to a VoIP server, but I am not sure if this will accomplish the same goal. Basically I like how the Blackberry UMA technology connects via WiFi from overseas, and lets you make calls back to the US using your regular plan minutes with no long distance charges. Is there any way to do the same thing on the HD2 (US version)? I know the antenna's are not the same technology.
There is also an option for internet calling when you go to Settings Tab>Menu>All Settings>Personal>Phone>Internet. It reads:
Internet Calling
To set the calling network for your next call, select Internet Calling on the Home Screen.
Does this even do anything?

I too would be very interested in something like this as my reception at my home - inside or out - is very weak.
I have tried several different radios as well, but I'm not having any luck.

Ditto.. I could totally use this feature. Does anyone know if you must have hardware that supports it or is it just software that runs on the phone ?

As far as I know both the hardware and software must support UMA in order for it to work. For instance, I could use UMA calling on my Shadow 2009, but could'nt on my Shadow 2007, even though they ran the same build of WinMo. From what I understand UMA has to be built into the WiFi chip in order for it to work.

I have truphone, witch works great, but only for outgoing calls. I need something that works through wifi that I can get incoming calls as well as outgoing. This is the one and only thing that makes me miss my blackberry. If I wasn't merely 9 months into my 2 year contract I could afford the mytouch 4g or the G2 and enjoy uma, but I don't have 500 plus dollars for yet another new phone. Trust me I'd love a new Mytouch 4G but it's at least another year until I can get one. I know this is off topic but does anyone have any hands on knowledge about the signal boosters they sell online? what ones work? cuz I get like 1 bar in my house and it comes and goes but soon as i'm 3 doors up I have 5 bars and 3g. So I definitely need something.

I was searching for just the same thing and came across this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=380803
post 23 explains it, so now all thats needed is adaptation, but I'm not a programer.
Here are the files I did download, but I haven't tested them, nor would know how to "make" them work.
Hope someone can make this work, I get 0 service at home, cause I live in a rural area, but work in a metro.

ashasaur said:
As far as I know both the hardware and software must support UMA in order for it to work. For instance, I could use UMA calling on my Shadow 2009, but could'nt on my Shadow 2007, even though they ran the same build of WinMo. From what I understand UMA has to be built into the WiFi chip in order for it to work.
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But how does that explain the Wi-fi calling feature that is added through custom rom flashes for the Samsung Vibrant and the Nexus One? Both those devices never had UMA from the beginning but was added through custom flashes later on.

Yeah, Damenloader is right. How come there's a rom that gives the Vibrant and the Nexus UMA wifi calling ? Anybody ? I'd REALLY like to get UMA on my HD2.

johnny13oi said:
But how does that explain the Wi-fi calling feature that is added through custom rom flashes for the Samsung Vibrant and the Nexus One? Both those devices never had UMA from the beginning but was added through custom flashes later on.
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Yeah, Damenloader is right. How come there's a rom that gives the Vibrant and the Nexus UMA wifi calling ? Anybody ? I'd REALLY like to get UMA on my HD2.
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Are you guys sure you're not confusing Wi-Fi calling for UMA? These are two different technologies. Wi-Fi calling is simply using a messenger program or SIP server to make calls using Wi-Fi. It's free to other Wi-Fi users or charged to account credits for phone numbers (Fringo, Skype, Nimbuzz, Google Voice). SIP servers work the same way (SIP Gate, etc.), you have to have an account with credit to make Wi-Fi calls to phone numbers.
Both of these Wi-Fi calling options require you to purchase calling credit to make calls to telephone numbers.
The idea behind UMA is that you do not have to purchase credit through a third party, but instead you use the minutes on your T-Mobile plan. For example, if you make a Wi-Fi call with a Blackberry (UMA-enabled phone), you would be connected through T-Mobile's servers (not 3rd party, ie: Skype), and they would simply deduct the minutes from your monthly plan. It would work the same with UMA as it would with a regular phone call through wireless service, free t-motbile to t-mobile, nights and weekends, etc.
I have searched this information thoroughly and have only come to conclude that UMA capability has to be built into the phone, via a chip or other. So far I have not seen anything about UMA being accessible through a program install or software mod.
If you simply want Wi-Fi calling it is possible with the HD2, as I have already done it with Skype and SIP Gate. It will be free if the person you are calling also has Skype, Nimbuzz, Fringo, etc. If you don't mind paying 2-10 cents/minute, then you can purchase the credit and make Wi-Fi calls to telephone numbers as well.
Hope this answers your question.

cu2cool, I believe you may have it a little wrong on the part of UMA. Like in the link I posted before, UMA isn't hardware or chip dependent, though phones like Blackberrys have a dedicated chip for the purpose. UMA is software dependent, and most likely radio dependent. My proof is in this link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=807116 taken from a Nexus1 thread, which phone didn't have UMA support before some crafty guys worked it out. Don't get me wrong I'm no expert on the subject, just from reading around, I'm fairly certain its "possible" and all it should take is a crafty person with the know-how to make it work.
Edit: Just found this (actually had it opened for weeks and forgot I had it) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=843433&page=6 a dev page for WIP on UMA-HD2_TMo-Android.

I finally just forked over the cash for a Mytouch 4G, and it was money well spent even if just for the wifi calling alone.
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I think I just saw something that might help. It came out on the 11th of February. http://www.xda-developers.com/windows-mobile/windows-mobile-voip-sip-updated/

telephony hardware

Does it exist on tis tab?
how about on
http://www.sierrawireless.com/Newsr...Wireless_4G_LTE_Mobile_Broadband_Network.aspx
which may be the card going in the xoom?
Lastly if the hardware exists on an lte device, should it be possible to make calls work by switching the sim card with a lte phone sim?

I think that if you would like to place phone calls with your Xoom using the cell radio its possible to find a way. Verizon might not be happy with it.
However, Its the hard way to place calls.
Sigh up with a VoIP provider, and use a SIP Client.
I like a provider named Vitelity. You can port your number to them if you would like. They are very inexpensive, and very reliable. (or use Skype, or anyone else.)
Then, use a SIP dialer and a Bluetooth headset on your Xoom. I am doing just that using Verizon 3g and it works great.

I have signed up for skype and have a number, but skype seems to have no interest in real BT support, neither does Google. If I could force Skype to use the mic on a BT< I could likely live with it, but AFAIK that is not possible.

This all be in another forum, however I am using CSIPSimple and it supports my plantronic BT voyager 510, (on Honeycomb)
http://www.plantronics.com/us/product/voyager-510&skuId=sku4610016
And, CSIPSimple opens the default Android Dialer (Which is in Honeycomb) to send and receive calls.

Would you mind testing it to be sure?
If so, place a call, leave your pad and walk like 15 feet and see if you are still heard.
Please don't be offended, I have just had WAY to many people say the same thing as you, only to find out A2DP let them hear, and they were using the tab mic without knowing it.

Hmmm.. I will check later tonight. That is a good question.

Thanks young... anyone else use csip too?

The hardware is capable, the problem is with the provisioning. Verizon adds feature codes to block voice and SMS on their tablet data plans.

what stops us from switching sims later to make our tablets look like a phone?

Morkai Almandragon said:
what stops us from switching sims later to make our tablets look like a phone?
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There is no sim to switch.
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So then? Any tablet outside of the us ( or Verizon) is able
To standard phonecalls?
I'm in the uk and I was planning to buy the 3g version but if I still have to carry a phone to txt or call, i'll choose the WiFi one, save 200 bucks, and tether with my nexus when needed although I'm not very happy with the idea of carrying multiple devices...
Btw , 3g version has been priced in.....600 pounds! What are they playing at? If I finally choose wifionly I'll buy for sure in the US, screw carphone and pcworld..
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I think you are asking a question that no one can answer at the moment.
LTE does use a SIM card, but, NO devices are currently available on Verizon's LTE network yet, so no one knows what happens if you switch LTE SIM cards between devices.
I also think that LTE devices use a VoIP type of voice connection, something different then how voice is done on CDMA. This new type of connection allows data and Voice to operate at the same time. This functionality, this Software dialer stack would need to be included in Honeycomb, which is not a phone Android distribution.

Young dud you test the bluetooth mic with csip?

Yes. I I have found is that I do have two way audio, all on the Bluetooth headset using csip, I walked around my house, leaving the Xoom several rooms away.
While in WiFi, Bluetooth audio was sketchy at best. For most calls, I could not get the headset in engage for the call. While in the call I would press Bluetooth on the dialer, and nothing would happen, or the audio would cut in and out, before engaging, or a few times I would have to press 'Speaker", then Bluetooth, then Speaker again before it would engage. When it would engage in WiFi I did have two way audio.
While in 3G, with WiFi Off, the connection with Bluetooth was perfect every time. No issues. The call call quality overall was a bit less then with WiFi, however Bluetooth worked correctly.
UPDATE: I just had a bad Bluetooth connection issue on 3G. So, it is spotty. It might be because CSip uses the default Android dialer which might be incomplete in some way on Honeycomb.
I should try another SIP app. But Bluetooth does have two way audio when I can get it to connect.

[Q] is UMA calling possible on android hd2?

i know people are going to hate me for this thread.... but it is really important to me to be able to text from my phone in places where i have no service but am able to connect to wifi.... so is it at all possible to do UMA or is it actually a hardware limitation???
...please dont hate me lols.

I don't know what the heck UMA is, I Googled it up with "xda" tag ..
Found this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=904575
Which lead me to this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=843433&page=6
Which is WiFi Calling,

lols, well uma is actually not the same as wifi calling, like i had it on my crackberry, and it would replace my service completely if i were on wifi, but with the wifi calling thing only lets you place calls and not sms over wifi.... lols, oh well, UMA probably isnt possible anyway.

If you have Google Voice - not the "call phone from gmail" version, the full fledged one with a phone number, you can send text messages over wifi.
It is right now only available in the US, but if you know how to find it, you can activate Google Voice from elsewhere too

UMA is alive and well on the HD2. I have the same situation you do at work with very bad signal but it doesn't matter. Voice and text is flawless.
A word of warning, though - we have 5 HD2's in our family that are configured exactly the same. Of the 5, 3 work without any problem at all with UMA calling and texting and the other two have this strange freezing problem. No idea why they are different because they shouldn't be.
Anyway, the thread with the app is here.
All credit goes to Tytung for his incredible work.
Also, if you're familiar with the original HotSpot @ Home calling, this does not support warm handoffs between cell tower and wifi signal and vice versa.
Hope this is what you were looking for.

Make phone calls with 4G dongle?

Hi there,
I'm a new owner of a Joying HU and figuring out how it all works.
Pretty happy with it so far.
So here's my question:
I ordered a 4G dongle to have a permanent data reception and was wondering, if it would be possible to do in- and outcoming calls with it directly so I could do withou a bluetooth paired phone at all.
Has anybody tried that or ist this just not possible?
Thanks
Thomas

I'm planning a similar setup, but it looks like there are no 4G dongles with voice support. If you need 4G, the only options right now seem to be some LTE routers which support VoLTE or CSFB and can act as a SIP server (e.g. Huawei E5186). However, all I've found are somewhat expensive and rather bulky.
The situation looks a lot better for 3G though. Asterisk's chan_dongle module supports voice calls with a bunch of Huawei 3G dongles. So my current plan is to use one of these, run asterisk as a local SIP server, and use an Android SIP client for calls. That way, I don't have to find or write a specialty dialer that supports 3G dongles.

if you are on T-Mobile they have the DIGITS app that will allow you to do that. Someone at one time got Tablet Talk to work, but I never could

I use Google Voice app. Makes all the calls through data as VOIP. as an added bonus, they give you a number so you don't need to use your personal phone for business