Interesting GPS issue... - Epic 4G General

Has anybody noticed that if you use the gps status app before you use the google maps that the gps connect quicker for any app using gps such as maps, weather, where, etc... until phone reset.
When I run google maps first gps would just search for several minutes and sometimes wouldn't even find the location. So for anyone with gps issue probably try the gps status app from the market first.
I'm wondering if the gps status and google maps access the epic 4g gps differently... just a thought
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I did what you suggested and indeed the gps locked much faster on google maps when I used GPS status first.

three epics here. extensive GPS testing over weeks now.
what you are seeing is gps status forcing aGPS vs "use wireless location, whcih is not aGPS.
If your ephemeris is new or has been cleared (the Epics main problem is not clearing ephemeris) you get an aGPS lock in seconds on GPS/aGPS only application like GPS status. But on application that can use either location method, the non GPS Use wireless networks" or the GPS, it often tries to get a wireless tower location first.
I get the identical affect by turning off the tower based system by keeping "Use wireless networks" normally off. this gives me instant aGPS locks five to ten seconds in proper conditions at all ties with cold start enabled.

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GPS/My Location

Just got my Droid 2 the other day, first Android phone or smart phone for that matter.
Was wondering if anyone knew why google maps or anything that uses my GPS location is always slightly inaccurate?
For instance I work on a main road through a strip of restaurants and shops and it showed my location as across the main road and down a side road a few blocks, it clearly showed the nearby streets and was close but where it put the icon I was obviously not there.
Same thing happens with my weather app, every now and then it says I am in the next town over from where I really am.
Whats up? Anyone else have this problem?
yes unfortunately, my navigation app is next to useless. Always end up walking a block.
Would really like some input on this!
An update:
I deliver pizza (still in school okay ) and I used my maps to just show the location of a house that was pretty far away at the farthest point of our range. I put in the address correctly and it showed the house about 5 miles off from where it really was, but somehow still on the same road.
This is pretty unacceptable to me as a driver, I was hoping to be able to put my phone and GPS to good use, but for now it is far from working correctly.
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Mine works great it's right on you have to turn on the sats not just the cell towers.
Okay, so after some intense Googlage, it seems like there are THREE different ways a modern android froyo device can get your position...
It triangulates GPS satellites, Cell Phone towers, and WIRELESS networks...
I believe Google has a database of known wifi hotspots from driving around in the street view truck.
Apparently the phone trys to average a position between all three? Either way, the WIFI triangulation is known to be inaccurate and throws the phone off.
Anyways, if you use the stock froyo power switch widget do the following to get best results:
1. enable WIFI and GPS via the widget
2. navigate to main settings screen
3. select Location & Security settings
4. DISABLE "Use wireless networks"
5. ENABLE "Use GPS satellites"
6. ENABLE "Assisted GPS"
If you still have issues, try calibrating your compass before you set off for a trip or are trying to use Google maps to get an exact location.
After changing these settings, you can go back to the power switch widget and disable GPS and WIFI if you'd like. anytime you need to use a location based app, just enable GPS via the widget and launch your app!
Anyone else have problems using the GPS toggle widget? (Either Froyo stock or the Moto one)
When I turn off GPS, it disables all three options under Location & Security. Weird, but not too big of a deal as long as it would restore them when I power it back on... but it doesn't. When I re-enable GPS, ONLY the "Use GPS satellites" option is re-enabled, regardless of the state the other options were in originally. Both aGPS and "wireless networks" options stay disabled and I have to manually get back to settings and re-enable them...
Am I special or do other people get this with the D2?
I was sitting the Hospital the other day, wondering where I was so I turned on my maps & sure enough it showed I was right in the middle of the building, even showing the building! Found out where I was!
teeBOMB said:
Okay, so after some intense Googlage, it seems like there are THREE different ways a modern android froyo device can get your position...
It triangulates GPS satellites, Cell Phone towers, and WIRELESS networks...
I believe Google has a database of known wifi hotspots from driving around in the street view truck.
Apparently the phone trys to average a position between all three? Either way, the WIFI triangulation is known to be inaccurate and throws the phone off.
Anyways, if you use the stock froyo power switch widget do the following to get best results:
1. enable WIFI and GPS via the widget
2. navigate to main settings screen
3. select Location & Security settings
4. DISABLE "Use wireless networks"
5. ENABLE "Use GPS satellites"
6. ENABLE "Assisted GPS"
If you still have issues, try calibrating your compass before you set off for a trip or are trying to use Google maps to get an exact location.
After changing these settings, you can go back to the power switch widget and disable GPS and WIFI if you'd like. anytime you need to use a location based app, just enable GPS via the widget and launch your app!
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This fixed it for me, thanks! For some reason I thought the GPS would always be on, I suppose I do like that I can turn it off now though.
Wanted to add that if you leave all that GPS on even when your charging you'll get an email alert that you have it on, another words you are being monitored. Caught me by surprise so I turned it off for a few minutes of privacy.
anonymous-x said:
Wanted to add that if you leave all that GPS on even when your charging you'll get an email alert that you have it on, another words you are being monitored. Caught me by surprise so I turned it off for a few minutes of privacy.
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Uh, no.
You get an e-mail when you enable Google Latitude, which is completely separate from the GPS system itself. Google Latitude can be turned on and off from "inside" of Google Maps.
Yes & I have no complaints using those apps but when I'm home it should know & turning them off saves battery & I also charge it.
I used to trust Flexilis which changed it's name to Lookout but when I tested that last night & today it's locating my phone at either the west or east tower which are more than 5000 meters away (but they are a good free back-up).

[Q] GPS hot fix technology exist on android??

Hi guys,
I have some trouble with GPS, it's take very very very long time to establish appropriate connection to some satellites. On Windows mobile there was app which download data about positions satellites from INTERNET and speed up the connection process. Then have exist some this solution for android platform? and one more thing, have some soft which can show satellites connected etc (not need any navigation or compass just some thing for verify)..
Any ideas?
Volis said:
Hi guys,
I have some trouble with GPS, it's take very very very long time to establish appropriate connection to some satellites. On Windows mobile there was app which download data about positions satellites from INTERNET and speed up the connection process. Then have exist some this solution for android platform? and one more thing, have some soft which can show satellites connected etc (not need any navigation or compass just some thing for verify)..
Any ideas?
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Search for "gps.config"!
Download tis app called gps status...you can download satellites thru its settings or you can reset ur gps data in it...downloading agps data dramatically improves locking speed..check it out...hope it helps
Setings> GPS&Sensors > Auto-download agps data
I am having issues with some builds sometimes to get a fix.
Some android builds make WM GPS not to fix anymore even. The only way to make it work on WM again is to re-flash your radio and not run android again (Android seems to do something to the GPS that makes it stop working on WM).
Perhaps I am wrong but this is my observation.
nuclearfissure said:
Download tis app called gps status...you can download satellites thru its settings or you can reset ur gps data in it...downloading agps data dramatically improves locking speed..check it out...hope it helps
Setings> GPS&Sensors > Auto-download agps data
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Yep looks that..
Thanks, it worked very well for me.
I have also raised this question previously.
With GPS's there are two additional technologies that help with speeding up a lock.
The first often known as QuickGPS. Normally when you GPS finally find its first satellite it needs to download a lot of satellite information including where all the other satellites are in relationship. This can take a minute or so and if it is interrupted will need to restart. Thats why you get a quicker lock when stationary versus moving. What QuickGPS does is download this information via the internet and store it locally.
The second is A-GPS. When your GPS starts it is listening trying to find anyone of over 30 satellites. This can take time. Once it find one satellite it then needs to repeat for another 2 before being able to identify where it is and what other satellites are in the area (From Step 1). What A-GPS does is find out where you are via cell sites etc. Once it has an approx location it then refers to the QuickGPS data to then workout what satellites are in the area. In then proceeds to only try to lock on local ones which is a lot quicker.
All the fixes for the HD2 gps relate to updating the NTP server setting in the GPS conf file. The current setting is fine however refers to an american time server. End of the day it is still going to give you a time sync to within a few milliseconds. Refering to a local NTP (Time Server) will give the exact same data.
Waste of time.
I believe the slow GPS lock is due to one of these technogies not working. I suspect it is a-GPS however have yet to confirm either way that the GPD data is being downloaded and saved in the right place.
Hope this helps.
Yes, I thinking primary about the fist option QuickGPS.. I was able on my HD2 wit win get the GPS lock for 7-10 satelelites in let then 30 second.. without that 5-10 minutes, then I thing is very userfull to have it somehow working on android too..

gps problem

Hi to all
I have gen1 blade with tpt for gen2. Currently it is with cyanogen-mod 7 ROM. I'm pleased with this phone but it does have one problem. GPS is not working!! To be exact device fails to "see" any satellites. With WIFI I get lock but only because of WIFI and trace of IP address. I heave used modified gps config file but that got my AGPS working, not regular GPS.
I have tried to find service manual on internet and failed....
Any ideas on how to solve this? I did check antenna connections that i could see and all seams to be fine.
No one?
I have tried Swedish snow rom but had same problem. replaced original gps.conf file;e with modified one and still had problem.
I guess u have not switched on the location services.
Go to settings location services then tick mark all and in GPS source select internal
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udaytalwaronline said:
I guess u have not switched on the location services.
Go to settings location services then tick mark all and in GPS source select internal
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AGPS works. I do get position according to WiFi but as i leave WiFi covered area I don't get tracking. No updated GPS position, according to software there is no visible satellites.
I have given up on getting this fixed. I have tried different ROMS and programs. Only when i get location from WiFi using ether Google maps or Locus I have position. Using GPS Test app i never get position. Same goes for other apps. I do have old (5 years old) BT GPS dongle and he finds position and satellites within 1minute using this mobile.
I have tried to find service manual or some sort of technical info about GPS in this mobile but found nothing.
grunf said:
AGPS works. I do get position according to WiFi but as i leave WiFi covered area I don't get tracking. No updated GPS position, according to software there is no visible satellites.
I have given up on getting this fixed. I have tried different ROMS and programs. Only when i get location from WiFi using ether Google maps or Locus I have position. Using GPS Test app i never get position. Same goes for other apps. I do have old (5 years old) BT GPS dongle and he finds position and satellites within 1minute using this mobile.
I have tried to find service manual or some sort of technical info about GPS in this mobile but found nothing.
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Do you have any screenshots from GPS Test app at least?

Google Maps GPS vs WiFi-Mobile Networks

I have been doing a lot of testing due to the frustration of locations locking me very slow using Maps...
When I disable Wifi & Mobile Networks in "Location" and just have GPS & Verizon I get a faster lock with Maps. Although both wee originally checked I feel that Maps tends to wait for WiFi & Mobile Networks over GPS which has fixed location... When both are checked in LOCATION I can see GPS has a lock and can see that with GPS Scan I have lots of sats. locked... But I still have the Maps pointer with a big blue circle trying to lock my location....waiting for it to find me exactly
If in the same example I just use GPS & Verizon Networks Maps locks my location fast since the sats are found. I would leave it this way but without the other checked for Wifi & Mobile Networks it hurts apps that need location info.
I tend to have WiFi off when not at home and I have found with all options checked in LOCATION and I turn WiFi on while on the road I do get a bit...a BIT faster lock but still so far GPS solo (alone) is far faster...
Any thoughts on this or other people experiences..??
I am rooted on Beans rom...

GPS Signal Strength horrible after Nougat Update

Wife and I recently applied the Nougat update that was pushed out. However, now both our phones have GPS issues. We use apps that require a GPS connection. Up until now, those apps worked from our home and our workplace. However, since the update, the apps keep giving us GPS errors.
I notice that Google Maps also can's show me where I'm actually at. Sometimes it works, but only for a few minutes. I downloaded GPS Status and Toolbox and it can't get a lock from my desk.
Is there any fixes out there that address the GPS signal strength, post Android 7.0?
Thank you!
Having no GPS problems on my Sprint S7
Under the Location settings I have "Locating Method" set to "High accuracy" and both "Wi-Fi scanning" and "Bluetooth scanning" disabled under "Improve accuracy"
Have you tried factory reset?
That seems to fix some of the various issues that people are having through the Nougat update.
I'll try turning those off and see how it goes.
No, didn't want to do a factory reset, if I didn't have to... Such a pain in the arse.
Thank you!
Any luck with this? The factory reset didn't work for me on my Sprint S7, I still have GPS issues and now I've lost app data to Runtastic and ToMarket GPS settings are the same as DankNuts.
Since the nougat update, It happens every time I use Runtastic (every other day). When it happens, I notice that Maps is also showing the wrong location (anywhere from where I'm at to a mile away). I've tried the app GPS Test (clearing and updating AGPS) and numerous phone restarts. At first those seemed to work. Now I try clearing the cache of apps that use GPS and that has worked long enough for my 90 minute run.
One thing that I just realized now, is that when I start Waze or navigation I don't seem to have the problem. I may need to test with a combination of those and Runtastic.
satellite problem
I installed gps statua software and it says 0/0 satellites. Gps essentials software says location provider cell.
For me it seems that the gps module would not somehow "turn on"
Edit: if i change in samsumg setting 'location method' to 'device only' gps essentials says location provider "unknown"
Sagula said:
I installed gps statua software and it says 0/0 satellites. Gps essentials software says location provider cell.
For me it seems that the gps module would not somehow "turn on"
Edit: if i change in samsumg setting 'location method' to 'device only' gps essentials says location provider "unknown"
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did you solve it? I think tomorrow I'll go to samsung assistance..
better gps solution
Goto settings; location; then top-right scanning, switch off wifi scanning and also bluetooth
Because there is a conflict with wifi and gps.
Help with several devices.
peter
Mine was defective, they replaced the motherboard entirely

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