GPS/My Location - Droid 2 General

Just got my Droid 2 the other day, first Android phone or smart phone for that matter.
Was wondering if anyone knew why google maps or anything that uses my GPS location is always slightly inaccurate?
For instance I work on a main road through a strip of restaurants and shops and it showed my location as across the main road and down a side road a few blocks, it clearly showed the nearby streets and was close but where it put the icon I was obviously not there.
Same thing happens with my weather app, every now and then it says I am in the next town over from where I really am.
Whats up? Anyone else have this problem?

yes unfortunately, my navigation app is next to useless. Always end up walking a block.
Would really like some input on this!

An update:
I deliver pizza (still in school okay ) and I used my maps to just show the location of a house that was pretty far away at the farthest point of our range. I put in the address correctly and it showed the house about 5 miles off from where it really was, but somehow still on the same road.
This is pretty unacceptable to me as a driver, I was hoping to be able to put my phone and GPS to good use, but for now it is far from working correctly.

Hi
Mine works great it's right on you have to turn on the sats not just the cell towers.

Okay, so after some intense Googlage, it seems like there are THREE different ways a modern android froyo device can get your position...
It triangulates GPS satellites, Cell Phone towers, and WIRELESS networks...
I believe Google has a database of known wifi hotspots from driving around in the street view truck.
Apparently the phone trys to average a position between all three? Either way, the WIFI triangulation is known to be inaccurate and throws the phone off.
Anyways, if you use the stock froyo power switch widget do the following to get best results:
1. enable WIFI and GPS via the widget
2. navigate to main settings screen
3. select Location & Security settings
4. DISABLE "Use wireless networks"
5. ENABLE "Use GPS satellites"
6. ENABLE "Assisted GPS"
If you still have issues, try calibrating your compass before you set off for a trip or are trying to use Google maps to get an exact location.
After changing these settings, you can go back to the power switch widget and disable GPS and WIFI if you'd like. anytime you need to use a location based app, just enable GPS via the widget and launch your app!

Anyone else have problems using the GPS toggle widget? (Either Froyo stock or the Moto one)
When I turn off GPS, it disables all three options under Location & Security. Weird, but not too big of a deal as long as it would restore them when I power it back on... but it doesn't. When I re-enable GPS, ONLY the "Use GPS satellites" option is re-enabled, regardless of the state the other options were in originally. Both aGPS and "wireless networks" options stay disabled and I have to manually get back to settings and re-enable them...
Am I special or do other people get this with the D2?

I was sitting the Hospital the other day, wondering where I was so I turned on my maps & sure enough it showed I was right in the middle of the building, even showing the building! Found out where I was!

teeBOMB said:
Okay, so after some intense Googlage, it seems like there are THREE different ways a modern android froyo device can get your position...
It triangulates GPS satellites, Cell Phone towers, and WIRELESS networks...
I believe Google has a database of known wifi hotspots from driving around in the street view truck.
Apparently the phone trys to average a position between all three? Either way, the WIFI triangulation is known to be inaccurate and throws the phone off.
Anyways, if you use the stock froyo power switch widget do the following to get best results:
1. enable WIFI and GPS via the widget
2. navigate to main settings screen
3. select Location & Security settings
4. DISABLE "Use wireless networks"
5. ENABLE "Use GPS satellites"
6. ENABLE "Assisted GPS"
If you still have issues, try calibrating your compass before you set off for a trip or are trying to use Google maps to get an exact location.
After changing these settings, you can go back to the power switch widget and disable GPS and WIFI if you'd like. anytime you need to use a location based app, just enable GPS via the widget and launch your app!
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This fixed it for me, thanks! For some reason I thought the GPS would always be on, I suppose I do like that I can turn it off now though.

Wanted to add that if you leave all that GPS on even when your charging you'll get an email alert that you have it on, another words you are being monitored. Caught me by surprise so I turned it off for a few minutes of privacy.

anonymous-x said:
Wanted to add that if you leave all that GPS on even when your charging you'll get an email alert that you have it on, another words you are being monitored. Caught me by surprise so I turned it off for a few minutes of privacy.
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Uh, no.
You get an e-mail when you enable Google Latitude, which is completely separate from the GPS system itself. Google Latitude can be turned on and off from "inside" of Google Maps.

Yes & I have no complaints using those apps but when I'm home it should know & turning them off saves battery & I also charge it.
I used to trust Flexilis which changed it's name to Lookout but when I tested that last night & today it's locating my phone at either the west or east tower which are more than 5000 meters away (but they are a good free back-up).

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Wifi auto disable?

is there a app that turns off/disables the wifi when you leave the range? blackberry had an app for this and am hopeful android does too but i cant seem to find any so was wondering if anyone knows of one.
I'm going to bump this because i've been looking for this same program.
i think juicedefender (the payed ultimatejuice actually) claims to do this? it never worked for me though, but apparently it does for other people. give it a shot
i found 1 that sounds like it would of worked but cant find...
Sanga Wifi Enabler will automatically enable your wifi adapter only on those
locations where you actually use it.
When you are at a place where you don't regularly use your wifi adapter, Sanga Wifi Enabler
will turn off your adapter, thus greatly improving battery life.
Includes also bluetooth management.
also found and tried this BUT i didnt see it turn off my wifi when i went in town and noticed my GPS never stopped so i had to turn it off because i felt that along with my unused wifi being on i was using gps non stop...
Wifi Auto Enabler
Active or desactive automaticly Wifi in one or many zones saved . This soft not use Gps for save battery but use Gsm location .
(CELLULAR ( GSM ) LOCALISATION MUST BE ACTIVED ON PHONE PARAMETERS )
I use one called Y5 it turns off and on my wifi based on my location. It seems to work well.
wick12345 said:
I use one called Y5 it turns off and on my wifi based on my location. It seems to work well.
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now this looks like it might work! many thanks.
i figure the best way to make a working app is to save my location via cell towers around me like how phones without gps can guess your location within a area by triangulating the location. saving that specific location on an app just monitoring not using gps sounds like it might do better on battery with check ever so often (30min,1hr,...). once my location saved and i am in it the app triggers on the wifi. if im out of the area it truns the wifi off. im just sayin heh.

Interesting GPS issue...

Has anybody noticed that if you use the gps status app before you use the google maps that the gps connect quicker for any app using gps such as maps, weather, where, etc... until phone reset.
When I run google maps first gps would just search for several minutes and sometimes wouldn't even find the location. So for anyone with gps issue probably try the gps status app from the market first.
I'm wondering if the gps status and google maps access the epic 4g gps differently... just a thought
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I did what you suggested and indeed the gps locked much faster on google maps when I used GPS status first.
three epics here. extensive GPS testing over weeks now.
what you are seeing is gps status forcing aGPS vs "use wireless location, whcih is not aGPS.
If your ephemeris is new or has been cleared (the Epics main problem is not clearing ephemeris) you get an aGPS lock in seconds on GPS/aGPS only application like GPS status. But on application that can use either location method, the non GPS Use wireless networks" or the GPS, it often tries to get a wireless tower location first.
I get the identical affect by turning off the tower based system by keeping "Use wireless networks" normally off. this gives me instant aGPS locks five to ten seconds in proper conditions at all ties with cold start enabled.

7.3.0 update now accepts my GPS.

The root of the last update made me to do ​​many mistakes and I had to initialize my kindle. Again the hard work of installing and tricking old programs that worked well.
All fine until I tried my bluetooth GPS dongle. With the other versions of rom it was rejected as an unsupported device, stopping pairing after a few seconds, needing other utilities to make the pairing stable. Now it paired well, at first try, but on the other side "Bluetooth GPS Provider" by Mobilej.de, the app that used to work, now crash all the time. This app used to work perfectly if installed in the System folder /app and annulling the "Force GPS Position" option, but not now.
Other app with the same name but from Michael Chourdakis(TurboIRC.com), that refused to work with 7.2.3, now runs, although is a more basic program.
Does it happens to someone else?
gflorezarroyo said:
The root of the last update made me to do ​​many mistakes and I had to initialize my kindle. Again the hard work of installing and tricking old programs that worked well.
All fine until I tried my bluetooth GPS dongle. With the other versions of rom it was rejected as an unsupported device, stopping pairing after a few seconds, needing other utilities to make the pairing stable. Now it paired well, at first try, but on the other side "Bluetooth GPS Provider" by Mobilej.de, the app that used to work, now crash all the time. This app used to work perfectly if installed in the System folder /app and annulling the "Force GPS Position" option, but not now.
Other app with the same name but from Michael Chourdakis(TurboIRC.com), that refused to work with 7.2.3, now runs, although is a more basic program.
Does it happens to someone else?
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Yes hello, this exact same thing is happening for me...
Prior to this new firmware update, I had been using a Global Sat external gps with Bluetooth GPS Provider (Mobilej.de) and it had successfully connected and gained location activity, after enabling mock settings with "KFHD xSettings", for use with maps applications (in my case for aviation moving maps Avare & Air Navigation Pro). Now with the recent 7.3.0 update, this no longer works and the Bluetooth provider app immediately has lost connection and is stopped. Additionally, these apps continually tell me that location-provider setting is turned off, even though it is shown as "ON".
Have you found a work around yet for this update? Are you saying that the other app by Michael Chourdakis is working and providing gps connection?
Yes, it fails one or two times to connect, you must insist. Then suddenly, it links and begins to receive coordinates and stay connected properly.
You must let it in the background like the other app.
Now, way to home, I will prove its accuracy...
I forgot the link to the app:
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/54456659/turboirc.btgps.apk.zip or http://ubuntuone.com/3yq3ZJKWIvB7Rss37BFE1k
edit: (thanks to prokennexusa)
hello thanks for the app link!
I just tried it after installing in \system\app folder. it does establish connection and says it receives coordinate information, but when I open map applications they say no location available. Or no GPS service.
Are you getting the same? have you successfully used a gps application with your bluetooth dongle?
It is not necessary to install it in System/app but if it works for you...., Once you see the name of the dongle and the coordinates, you must exit with the home button, not with the arrow one, to make the app run in the background. Edit: no, it doesn't closes by itshelf. Is necesary to stop it in configuration....
Then, sliding down the finger by the upper part of the screen you can see a notification that the GPS is working and an GPS icon near the bluetooth symbol is visible. Edit: No, is the android system who shows that alerts when the navigator(whichever you use) request "location" ...
Yes, I have "Mock locations" activated with "KFHD xSettings" (courtesy of 0xD34D), but it works for me with or without "internal location-provider" set.
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I'm testing now the "Alpine quest hiking" app, but by the day I will do with Tom-tom.
The experience has been a bitter relief, as this "Bluetooth GPS Provider"(Turboirc) app seems to be the only remaining solution to tie GPSs and Kindles, but the program hasn't options and loses signal occasionally, just only a second fortunately. Accuracy is good.
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The "original" "Bluetooth GPS Provider"(Mobilej) behaviour has changed, in doesn't hangs now, only announces that has been closed and, curiously only if you install it normally(not system/app), lets you a feedback with the creator to send him errors. I will prove if he or they can fix it in between.
later I will show more tests....
Route 66 hangs with or without WIFI (I set it off to secure there is no "wifi location") in the precise moment I run "Bluetooth GPS Provider"(turbo irc). With the earlier updates it worked good with "Bluetooth GPS Provider"(movilej.de).
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It seems that the turboirc version does something wrong when injecting coordinates to the android system.
GPS update 7.3.0 very good .But hope to soon have CM10.1 . Many thanks Hashcode :victory:
gflorezarroyo said:
Route 66 hangs with or without WIFI (I set it off to secure there is no "wifi location") in the precise moment I run "Bluetooth GPS Provider"(turbo irc). With the earlier updates it worked good with "Bluetooth GPS Provider"(movilej.de).
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It seems that the turboirc version does something wrong when injecting coordinates to the android system.
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^Exactly...I believe I am having the same issue with the turboirc version not feeding gps information. I got it to connect with position initially but does not continually update data in intervals like the mobilej.de version had. As a result, the gps apps get hung up or stop without this feed of coordinate data.
i suppose I will just use my phone in the mean time, until maybe a new firmware update will change this issue!
I've sideloaded Avare, a free superb navigator, for planes!. It doesn't reads the "GPS Provider" app, but neither hangs. Tomtom seems to work, but its raining here and the test must wait to my way home, later.
By car, friends....
hokie152 said: "Exactly...I believe I am having the same issue with the turboirc version not feeding gps information"
Not so easy, it seems some apps see the information and others no. "Alpine quest" works, so the provider app is feeding.
hokie152. If you need GPS to fly, do it as you said by tethering from your phone.............. or downgrade to 7.2.3 and lock updates.....
quan_1986 said:
GPS update 7.3.0 very good .But hope to soon have CM10.1 . Many thanks Hashcode :victory:
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But be aware of Bluetooth not working properly, yet (Bug)
Definitively Tomtom works with "Bluetooth GPS Provider"(turboirc) on 7.3.0. Has the same glitches every now and then like Alpine Quest, but it brings you to home and alerts you of radars.....
Another bluetooth gps provider named..... BlueGPS4android, installs but I cant make it work:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/bluegps4droid/?source=dlp
Bluegps4android works in my phone, but all versions offered refuse to tie in Kindle.
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I've find an app that connects DIRECTLY with the GPS dongle without a provider app. Its name is Trekbuddy, side-loaded from Google Market.
Is a complex program that needs some study, but apparently it works, I don't know if can be used to fly....
To hokie152:
I've installed Air Navigation Pro, and it seems to react and receive some coordinates if you have set "wifi location" with or without wifi. Later I'll take the car and test it. My bluetooth dongle is a cheap and outdated Zaapa Touch(only 5 euros!).
Air Navigation Pro works, but suffers occasionally the same loss of data failures, causing the little plane in the screen turn as a weathervane moved by a whirlwind....But it runs.
gflorezarroyo said:
Air Navigation Pro works, but suffers occasionally the same loss of data failures, causing the little plane in the screen turn as a weathervane moved by a whirlwind....But it runs.
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I will try connecting Air Navigation Pro using Bluetooth GPS Provider by turboir and see if I have the same results "with or without WIFI". I have seen the little plane before rotate in circles when you stop moving (at zero velocity). It displays your location but has no direction of motion so it cannot hold a proper heading. Thanks!
I mean that I think this program inject coordinates(mock locations) to the system, so its necessary that location services are working, ie the approximate location by wifi used by our Kindle. Happy Fly!
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Now I'm making a map of my way to home to test Trekbuddy reading directly from my dongle gps..... to test if it isn't guilty of the glitches.

Google Maps GPS vs WiFi-Mobile Networks

I have been doing a lot of testing due to the frustration of locations locking me very slow using Maps...
When I disable Wifi & Mobile Networks in "Location" and just have GPS & Verizon I get a faster lock with Maps. Although both wee originally checked I feel that Maps tends to wait for WiFi & Mobile Networks over GPS which has fixed location... When both are checked in LOCATION I can see GPS has a lock and can see that with GPS Scan I have lots of sats. locked... But I still have the Maps pointer with a big blue circle trying to lock my location....waiting for it to find me exactly
If in the same example I just use GPS & Verizon Networks Maps locks my location fast since the sats are found. I would leave it this way but without the other checked for Wifi & Mobile Networks it hurts apps that need location info.
I tend to have WiFi off when not at home and I have found with all options checked in LOCATION and I turn WiFi on while on the road I do get a bit...a BIT faster lock but still so far GPS solo (alone) is far faster...
Any thoughts on this or other people experiences..??
I am rooted on Beans rom...

GPS Signal Strength horrible after Nougat Update

Wife and I recently applied the Nougat update that was pushed out. However, now both our phones have GPS issues. We use apps that require a GPS connection. Up until now, those apps worked from our home and our workplace. However, since the update, the apps keep giving us GPS errors.
I notice that Google Maps also can's show me where I'm actually at. Sometimes it works, but only for a few minutes. I downloaded GPS Status and Toolbox and it can't get a lock from my desk.
Is there any fixes out there that address the GPS signal strength, post Android 7.0?
Thank you!
Having no GPS problems on my Sprint S7
Under the Location settings I have "Locating Method" set to "High accuracy" and both "Wi-Fi scanning" and "Bluetooth scanning" disabled under "Improve accuracy"
Have you tried factory reset?
That seems to fix some of the various issues that people are having through the Nougat update.
I'll try turning those off and see how it goes.
No, didn't want to do a factory reset, if I didn't have to... Such a pain in the arse.
Thank you!
Any luck with this? The factory reset didn't work for me on my Sprint S7, I still have GPS issues and now I've lost app data to Runtastic and ToMarket GPS settings are the same as DankNuts.
Since the nougat update, It happens every time I use Runtastic (every other day). When it happens, I notice that Maps is also showing the wrong location (anywhere from where I'm at to a mile away). I've tried the app GPS Test (clearing and updating AGPS) and numerous phone restarts. At first those seemed to work. Now I try clearing the cache of apps that use GPS and that has worked long enough for my 90 minute run.
One thing that I just realized now, is that when I start Waze or navigation I don't seem to have the problem. I may need to test with a combination of those and Runtastic.
satellite problem
I installed gps statua software and it says 0/0 satellites. Gps essentials software says location provider cell.
For me it seems that the gps module would not somehow "turn on"
Edit: if i change in samsumg setting 'location method' to 'device only' gps essentials says location provider "unknown"
Sagula said:
I installed gps statua software and it says 0/0 satellites. Gps essentials software says location provider cell.
For me it seems that the gps module would not somehow "turn on"
Edit: if i change in samsumg setting 'location method' to 'device only' gps essentials says location provider "unknown"
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did you solve it? I think tomorrow I'll go to samsung assistance..
better gps solution
Goto settings; location; then top-right scanning, switch off wifi scanning and also bluetooth
Because there is a conflict with wifi and gps.
Help with several devices.
peter
Mine was defective, they replaced the motherboard entirely

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