[Q] HTC Desire-Z boot speed - Legend General

I dunno if you've seen it but it starts in about the time it takes my legend to turn the screen on. Anyhoo
Do we reckon it would be possible to put this kind of thing on other phones (Namely our Legend)? It's called HTC Fast boot; so would it be possible to, when they're released, port the stuff in the ROM that does this? Or not? Or anything even close?

It's very early to tell, but if they'll release to other phones (like Desire) there's a very very good chance it's possible.

For what it's worth I don't think the boot time for our Legends is bad at all. I'm satisfied with it.

Yeah, but faster is (nearly) always better

Watch second video, you can see how fast is boot speed! F*** yeah . This is what we need for legend!
http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/15/htc-desire-z-hands-on/

qzem said:
Watch second video, you can see how fast is boot speed! F*** yeah . This is what we need for legend!
http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/15/htc-desire-z-hands-on/
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My only worry is that there's some stuff going on there that's not ROM related. Maybe bootloader tinkering; who knows?

From CoolSmartPhone.com (note the last couple of sentences):
Oh, and that boot time is a whole lot quicker too according to HTC. We did give this a test after being told that the device could turn back on in "less than 10 seconds". We tested it and it actually did it in less than 5 seconds, but it seems that there's some clever "suspend" technology going on when you tell the devices to power off from the GUI as, when we popped the battery out to try a complete "cold boot" it took the normal amount of time. We're guessing that this will still be brilliant though, especially if you've had the phone powered off whilst asleep or during a flight.
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Yea.. I had a feeling that it was likely to be a suspend. This does, however, make it more likely to be ported to other phones...

No. Not. At. All.

owenw said:
No. Not. At. All.
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What's that in reference to?

c_man said:
For what it's worth I don't think the boot time for our Legends is bad at all. I'm satisfied with it.
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For what it's worth, I played on the Desire HD (and Z) last night as I went along to the HTC event. The boot speed IS very impressive, but it's a nice to have, not a "need to have".
Some people were overly impressed with the boot speed, some not impressed at all. Afterall, there is more to a phone that how fast it manages to boot up .

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New Htc Sense

Just saw the videos from the htc desire Z and wow. The main thing I want is that htc fast boot. It literally took the phone 4 seconds to boot up. You think we will ever see the light of day on that for our Evos?
Is that an Evo in your pocket or are you just happy to see me?
Link to vid?
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Yea its the second video they have posted.
Www.engadget.com/2010/09/15/htc-desire-z-hands-on/
Is that an Evo in your pocket or are you just happy to see me?
mmanjj said:
Yea its the second video they have posted.
Www.engadget.com/2010/09/15/htc-desire-z-hands-on/
Is that an Evo in your pocket or are you just happy to see me?
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damn - that is fast. But my takeaway from that vid is the fact that lansdcape sense should now be doable.
Yea. If they can do it for sliders it shouldn't be too hard to do it officially for our phones. Love that boot up speed...
Is that an Evo in your pocket or are you just happy to see me?
I was more excited about landscape sense. The fastboot is defiantly cool but a feature that isn't too useful since my phone is pretty much always on.
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I was sort of hoping maybe Sprint & HTC would do an update for the EVO . Since we have a kickstand and all.
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I was sort of hoping maybe Sprint & HTC would do an update for the EVO . Since we have a kickstand and all.
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Exactly - Although at this point I'm too attached to launcherpro to go back to sense, the fact that I couldn't use sense in landscape with the kickstand is what pushed me to launcherpro in the first place.
Yeah that fast boot was pretty impressive.
All sorts of HTC love going on today. Wild.
landscape sense ftw
here's hoping they update us (wont be holding my breath)
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Yeah that fast boot was pretty impressive.
All sorts of HTC love going on today. Wild.
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I don't have the audio so please correct me if I'm wrong; but to me it looked like they demonstrated the startup time for Sense, not the whole phone. i.e. Android will still take its usual time to start up, it's just the Sense portion of it (the very last part before you see the unlock screen) will be faster. If that's true, overall it will be a marginal improvement.
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I don't have the audio so please correct me if I'm wrong; but to me it looked like they demonstrated the startup time for Sense, not the whole phone. i.e. Android will still take its usual time to start up, it's just the Sense portion of it (the very last part before you see the unlock screen) will be faster. If that's true, overall it will be a marginal improvement.
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HTC GUY: And that's the boot, its ready to use.
Camera Guy: Was that the whole boot
HTC GUY: Yes, we've done a lot to improve boot time etc.
So I'm guessing it is the boot time.
I want landscape sense!!!!!! Now!!!!! Lol... When can I haves it?
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While some have noticed that the "fastboot" was incredibly fast another video showed the phone booting up and taking longer.
Read somewhere, was a couple hours ago, that a reboot was the speedier of the two, not necessarily powering up a cold phone. Is that the case? Maybe I misread, but I forgot where I saw it so I can't really go back and read again ... maybe I missed something. And I probably did, have been drinking.
Pretty impressive I hope this comes to the EVO.
why do you guys want landscape sense? don't see a use for it. But I do like the new status bar and the customization as well.
I would like landscape sense because, if I were to be using a sense ROM, I constantly hold the phone in landscape. So when I go from here to homescreen I have to turn the phone, which is incredibly taxing for me rolleyes and this would solve the issue.
As it stands, have used CM6 damn near the whole time it's been out, but I understand why people want it. A buddy got his new Evo and this was something I noticed. He'd go from portrait to landscape to portrait to landscape and he was like, dude, this is getting old. I had to agree with him. I know the widget solution ... yeah, sure, but it looks awkward.
Ah hope this is released for evo.. looks great.
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This has to be released for the Evo, its HTC sense.. so it should arrive on the incredible too.. if they only choose 1ghz devices. What I'm wondering is how and when will this be implemented.
They're launching htcsense.com next month, maybe this will include updates for in use devices.
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Chyeahhhhhh boy!!!! I definitely cannot wait for this!!!

Desire HD Fastboot

Hi i was wondering if this phone will have Fastboot like the G2 does Thanks
Apparently...
HTC said it would when they unveiled it, I think they demonstrated it on the desire z so it should be on the HD aswell.
is fast boot related to the processor power or what , and could we get it on our recent android devices
Hopefully, If the Desire Z can do it I'm sure the Desire HD should be able too, especially with the advantage of a faster processor.
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I was just at the launch event, and the host clearly said that it's not shutting down, it's just in a hibernation state. It restarts in about 10 seconds.
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The guy at Giant Robot(one of the htc event hosts) said it has "Solid State Memory", felt like believing it,but i thought it was too good to be true
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The guy at Giant Robot(one of the htc event hosts) said it has "Solid State Memory", felt like believing it,but i thought it was too good to be true
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I had no idea that smartphones use anything else than solid state memory.
vijay555 said:
I was just at the launch event, and the host clearly said that it's not shutting down, it's just in a hibernation state. It restarts in about 10 seconds.
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that would actually explain it. I can't imagine both devices being able to boot this much faster with essentially the same processor speed as the other phones.
hibernation isn't very useful i think. maybe it will be useful if u turned it off on a plane or something? oh, it might be useful to those who turn off their phone everyday before going to sleep.
i believe it is in the OS along with the processor speed.
but the boot speeds are amazing i believe HCDR.Jacob will be putting it into his ROMS when he figures it out
So this thing actually boots device from 0 to operation? I think it's some sort of hibernation here. No way android with sense could boot so fast.
Yer the phone 'sleeps' when you turn it off...
So if you actually yank the battery out the phone will have to boot as normal. Seems pointless to be honest.
matejdro said:
So this thing actually boots device from 0 to operation? I think it's some sort of hibernation here. No way android with sense could boot so fast.
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yeah i have to agree. But i must admit it is actually a smart implementation. Phones should be doing this.
Clearly it's in sleep or hibernate. It's not like HTC were pitching it any differently explaining how useful it might be when you're on a plane.
I think it's a nice feature and I'd be able to use it pretty well. I won't sigh when I have to turn my phone off for an interview or meeting!
Since changing the actual boot behavior will require a kernel change (which htc or google won't perform) - it is highly likely that this is all about "sleep/hibernation" technique, nothing spectacular.
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So if you actually yank the battery out the phone will have to boot as normal. Seems pointless to be honest.
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I'm not so sure of this.
It might also always keep a fully booted up image, even if you remove the battery.
If it's a "Suspend to Ram" implementation, it's probably gonna need the battery indeed.
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If it's a "Suspend to Ram" implementation, it's probably gonna need the battery indeed.
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Right, but it could be something different. If the bootup image resides in a rom you don't have this problem.
Of course, this is only speculation until we know how they implemented it.
Here's one more video...demonstrating fast boot of Desire HD and its recorded with Desire Z @ 720p
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbtCLKANMzI

Review/Warning

I just bought an Atrix, and I thought I would post a little review because in all my research before I bought the phone, I did not find one which said what I needed to hear. Hopefully this is useful and objective.
I have owned a OG Droid, Samsung Fascinate, Nexus S, Galaxy S, and this Atrix so I feel like I have good grounds for comparison.
Out of the box...
The Good: The phone's hardware is top notch. The specs are awesome.
The Bad: The Motorola Atrix in completly stock form (the one I bought anyways) is very buggy and laggy. When I first unboxed it and was doing my initial set up and installing a few apps, a number of different programs forced close. The whole experience was slow and frustrating. I would rate Moto Blur as simply horrible and disgusting.
The fact that Motorola was able to take a tegra 2 powered phone with 1GB of DDR2 ram and make it run choppy is beyond me.
With that being said... If you don't know how to or do not plan on rooting, or modifying the software on your phone, I would highly recommended you avoid the Atrix.
If you are a fan of tinkering and modifying, then the Atrix is a great choice.
I have only noticed lag for the first 15-30 seconds after power on. None after that...
Motoblur means nothing to me, and doesn't really seem to slow down my phone. I had lunch with a bunch of other android users, and they were all impressed by the atrix' snappiness...
One thing I remembered when I had the atrix was unlocking the phone and using it was extremely laggy and slow for the first few seconds. I confirmed this with 2 other store demos. If you swipe your finger or do the pattern unlock, try bringing down the notification bar immediately. It'll be slow and choppy but if you wait a couple seconds and then try again, it'll be fine. Always annoyed me at how LONG it took to unlock the phone and get it going compared to every other android phone I've owned.
I have had no issues with performance at all on my device. It's lightning quick. The most impressive for me wasn't the CPU speed, but the file access speed. That thing installs, uninstalls, and loads applications retarded fast. They made a good choice of hardware right there.
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I have had no issues with performance at all on my device. It's lightning quick. The most impressive for me wasn't the CPU speed, but the file access speed. That thing installs, uninstalls, and loads applications retarded fast. They made a good choice of hardware right there.
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DDR2 ram win.
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The only lag I've noticed is for a few seconds after the initial boot up, which is understandable. To say it is very laggy and buggy is crazy. Perhaps the unit you had was defective.
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Sounds like you may have a buggy device... Ive had three of them so far (one was replaced due to what I perceived to be a faulty battery and my wife also uses one). And I've not seen any of the lag you're talking about...
If it was a big enough occurance don't you think you would've read about it on these forums? This place is packed with android super users... no ones having problems like that ...
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If you are a fan of tinkering and modifying, then the Atrix is a great choice.
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the atrix is a horrible choice if you like to tinker and modify your phone...
dinan said:
One thing I remembered when I had the atrix was unlocking the phone and using it was extremely laggy and slow for the first few seconds. I confirmed this with 2 other store demos. If you swipe your finger or do the pattern unlock, try bringing down the notification bar immediately. It'll be slow and choppy but if you wait a couple seconds and then try again, it'll be fine. Always annoyed me at how LONG it took to unlock the phone and get it going compared to every other android phone I've owned.
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.... the fingerprint scanner makes it real quick to unlock the phone.... and it's not easy enough to be accidentally pocket-unlocked like some other unlocking systems i've seen.... such as i think HTC's, where you just slide the one thing down. Hell, with the one pair of shorts i have, i was actually able to see the screen on my iPhone 4 when i had it, and unlock it THROUGH THE SHORTS if i wanted to.
And i think it'd be expected for things to be going a tad slow as soon as it's woken up. Look at computers. Whether it's booting... sleeping... hibernating.... if you expect to be able to do something without any form of lag the second either of those are recovered from, you'd be sorely mistaken.
neotekz said:
the atrix is a horrible choice if you like to tinker and modify your phone...
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Sounds like a great comment from a non-Atrix user? Maybe I'm wrong though?
The Atrix is fine for people who like to tinker. The only thing we can't do is overclock our processors and change ROMs every 3 seconds. Other than that I have free tethering, no ads, root, no bloatware, free webtop thanks to a hack and a pseudo-ROM/theme loaded. Yeah too bad I can't tinker with it. *eyes rolling*
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Sounds like a great comment from a non-Atrix user? Maybe I'm wrong though?
The Atrix is fine for people who like to tinker. The only thing we can't do is overclock our processors and change ROMs every 3 seconds. Other than that I have free tethering, no ads, root, no bloatware, free webtop thanks to a hack and a pseudo-ROM/theme loaded. Yeah too bad I can't tinker with it. *eyes rolling*
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NICE!!!!!! glad someone finally said something... I mean sure u can't load cyanogen but with the way things are going with these "pseudo" roms if cyanogen put some effort into making one of those for the atrix would that not be a sufficient fix??? Because lets face it doubt the BL will be unlocked soo instead of putting all that effort I to unlocking it how about taking g advantage of the capabilities that we do have.... ???? Just sayen
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NICE!!!!!! glad someone finally said something... I mean sure u can't load cyanogen but with the way things are going with these "pseudo" roms if cyanogen put some effort into making one of those for the atrix would that not be a sufficient fix??? Because lets face it doubt the BL will be unlocked soo instead of putting all that effort I to unlocking it how about taking g advantage of the capabilities that we do have.... ???? Just sayen
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Haha didn't really mean to come off as a jerk but I'm just sick of reading people's posts in the ATRIX forum hating on the phone. If it's not the phone for you so what go to the forum of the device you like!
I hope to also see some cool themes/pseudo-ROMs made available. At least we have Ken right now working his butt off on GingerBlur!
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Haha didn't really mean to come off as a jerk but I'm just sick of reading people's posts in the ATRIX forum hating on the phone. If it's not the phone for you so what go to the forum of the device you like!
I hope to also see some cool themes/pseudo-ROMs made available. At least we have Ken right now working his butt off on GingerBlur!
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yes he difinitley is i was following that thread for a bit but i saw that with the latest release i believe it was beta7 (at the time) webtop for th laptop dock was disabled and i have the LTD so that is a feature that i definitely need... do you know if its a RC yet???
Mustang302LX said:
Sounds like a great comment from a non-Atrix user? Maybe I'm wrong though?
The Atrix is fine for people who like to tinker. The only thing we can't do is overclock our processors and change ROMs every 3 seconds. Other than that I have free tethering, no ads, root, no bloatware, free webtop thanks to a hack and a pseudo-ROM/theme loaded. Yeah too bad I can't tinker with it. *eyes rolling*
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i have an atrix, i guess we just have different opinions on tinkering...i do like the change roms often and be able to upgrade to the newest android version without having to wait for the manufacture. theres so much more you can do when you open up the kernel, most of the bugs that people are having would be solved if the devs can get at the kernel. Why do you think developers are leaving the Atrix? there's only so much you can do with a locked bootloader. i never said i hated the phone(i wouldnt of bought it if i did) i just dont think it's a good phone for modding but hopefully that will change...
SpeeDemon said:
I have had no issues with performance at all on my device. It's lightning quick. The most impressive for me wasn't the CPU speed, but the file access speed. That thing installs, uninstalls, and loads applications retarded fast. They made a good choice of hardware right there.
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same with mine.. the ATT version of the Atrix must be loaded with crapware making the phone slow down. My Bell version flies right out of the box, even when using Motoblur!
SpeeDemon said:
I have had no issues with performance at all on my device. It's lightning quick. The most impressive for me wasn't the CPU speed, but the file access speed. That thing installs, uninstalls, and loads applications retarded fast. They made a good choice of hardware right there.
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+1 I agree, Atrix = speed I've rarely felt lags if any at all
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yes he difinitley is i was following that thread for a bit but i saw that with the latest release i believe it was beta7 (at the time) webtop for th laptop dock was disabled and i have the LTD so that is a feature that i definitely need... do you know if its a RC yet???
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It's still in Beta at 7.2 now. However I believe the webtop that was removed in the previous version was the hack to make it work with just an HDMI cable so you don't need the dock to make it work. I am on 7.2 and I have the webtop hack installed and it works perfect on my TV through just the HDMI cable.
I am really enjoying the ATRIX. I was starting to get a little burnt out on installing new ROMS every couple days or weeks. This is however my first Android phone...coming from the WinMo forums...This phone is like night and day compared to my old Tilt 2.
People have such harsh and strong opinions on everything on forums. These 'reviews' should be read as objectively as possible.
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I am really enjoying the ATRIX. I was starting to get a little burnt out on installing new ROMS every couple days or weeks. This is however my first Android phone...coming from the WinMo forums...This phone is like night and day compared to my old Tilt 2.
People have such harsh and strong opinions on everything on forums. These 'reviews' should be read as objectively as possible.
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Welcome Brother I'm in the same boat =P tilt 2 to atrix is an amazingly wonderful jump ~!
I came from a captivate where roms are readily available. I enjoyed flashing and it was awesome to see how a device can mature. But the kernel development is where things truly shine. But even after all the flashing I just felt like things didn't quite work right. I thought it was the fact that 99% of the roms were based off the international galaxy s.
I love my atrix. Everything works. The battery life is awesome. The phone really flies. Motoblur sucks but its been taken care of. As long as we get more roms ill be happy. Unlocked bootloader would be nice but I don't see it happening
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[SOLVED] Camera Flash Shutdown

As some of us know, after knowing your Desire HD for quite a long time, flashing a ROM such as CM7 has incurred problems such as camera flash shutdowns.
The explanation for this is simple! :laugh: It is NOT (by about 99.999%) a hardware fault. It is due to the phone withdrawing too much power at boot due to some voltage settings and kernels...​
Solution 1
Change your kernel and adjust voltage settings...
Solution 2 (The better one)
Replace your Desire HD battery, it may seem drastic for some cheapskates (like me), but is effective. ONLY do this is Solution 1 didn't work. Also, it may give you better battery life.
Solution 3 EXTREME MEASURES
Revert to a stock ROM... NOT a flashed one, I mean a full fledged RUU (Rom Update Utility).
For RUU's check out the Development forum.
FINAL SOLUTION (MOST EXTREMELY FREAKING WEIRD MEASURES)
Lock bootloader, undo s-off and contact HTC.
In my personal experience the battery solution was the best and worked like a charm.
Have a good day.
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Come on... 103 views and no thanks..? Come on people!!!
can you explain more about solution 1 !
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Come on... 103 views and no thanks..? Come on people!!!
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Not sure if serious... :/
PHOENIX-9 said:
can you explain more about solution 1 !
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Go to the development section, go to the index and look at the kernel category. Pick one that seems good to you and use it. The dev might also write about what voltages are good for the kernel, and to change them I recommend SetCPU
I hope I helped the poor poor people with this issue.
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For me this issue comes and goes, so I guess it's a kernel/system settings related.
right now on Sabsa Prime v11 @1.5Ghz and no issues with flash.
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For me this issue comes and goes, so I guess it's a kernel/system settings related.
right now on Sabsa Prime v11 @1.5Ghz and no issues with flash.
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That's nice, this tutorial was just for those people who are going absolutely KAY-RAY-ZEE at their DHD's. (like me)
I had the same issue, on a stock phone. The DHD would first shut down when doing a photo with flash, then when simply doing a photo, then sometimes without any apparent reasons, even with screen off. In the last times it would works only when without the sim card, every time i booted with SIM in the phone shutted down at the moment it was gaining signal.
I bought a new battery and, by now at least, it solved everything.
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I had the same issue, on a stock phone. The DHD would first shut down when doing a photo with flash, then when simply doing a photo, then sometimes without any apparent reasons, even with screen off. In the last times it would works only when without the sim card, every time i booted with SIM in the phone shutted down at the moment it was gaining signal.
I bought a new battery and, by now at least, it solved everything.
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Yay just like me! Nice that it worked, it happened to me as well. Plus do click thanks though.
YAY!

New security update for tmobile 3/21/17

I havent updated yet. Just want to find put more information if fix or break anything
UPDATE: just did the update. Phone feel much snappier and fingerprint works much faster. It was already good enough with nougat update but now is even more accurate
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I havent updated yet. Just want to find put more information if fix or break anything
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It brings us to March 1st security don't see any other changes.
galaxy4mylife said:
It brings us to March 1st security don't see any other changes.
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From my personal experience i have seen that tmobile update make the phone snappier, better battery life etc or the other way around even when they only state is only a security patch update
I got the update and now I can't login to my phone. It wants me to put in the password (just once, then I can use fingerprint again like before). But I never setup a PIN and now I can't get into my phone!!
at a "whopping" 51Mb, that's not a lot of updates. The "faster" effect is probably placebo.
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at a "whopping" 51Mb, that's not a lot of updates. The "faster" effect is probably placebo.
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this :good:
Compusmurf said:
at a "whopping" 51Mb, that's not a lot of updates. The "faster" effect is probably placebo.
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"Futher improve to perfomance" so kernel mods changing and modifying a few codes for better perfomance which take no memory is also a placebo effect. Gonna have to explain that to all the kernel and tweakers developers in xda.
This is not a new OS or OS upgrade. Doesnt need to be 1gb to get better improvement on the phone. U can try the update and see. Im loving the speed.
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"Futher improve to perfomance" so kernel mods changing and modifying a few codes for better perfomance which take no memory is also a placebo effect. Gonna have to explain that to all the kernel and tweakers developers in xda.
This is not a new OS or OS upgrade. Doesnt need to be 1gb to get better improvement on the phone. U can try the update and see. Im loving the speed.
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Every update says the same darn thing. If you go look at the google code revisions, you'll be disappointed. Besides, I did this update many hours ago, not one iota difference in noticeable speed on my NON ROOTED STOCK device. I reboot every morning so I get the nice, fresh "fastest" possible speeds, at least until standard android and samsung bog downs occur by the end of the day.
But, if your gut says you feel a difference, more power to you.
About Kernel mods here. They take existing base and tweak specifically for speed at a trade off of potential stability. Google and Samsung, neither are well known for real speed improvements. They shoot for stability over mass numbers of devices vs speed. Their professional developers that know and work with the code day in and day out would nothing more than love to tweak it and massively optimize it for even their own devices but they have to march the corporate line.
Namuna said:
I got the update and now I can't login to my phone. It wants me to put in the password (just once, then I can use fingerprint again like before). But I never setup a PIN and now I can't get into my phone!!
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That happened with me while on MM. It took 3 factory resets from recovery before it let me in without a pin.
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Every update says the same darn thing. If you go look at the google code revisions, you'll be disappointed. Besides, I did this update many hours ago, not one iota difference in noticeable speed on my NON ROOTED STOCK device. I reboot every morning so I get the nice, fresh "fastest" possible speeds, at least until standard android and samsung bog downs occur by the end of the day.
But, if your gut says you feel a difference, more power to you.
About Kernel mods here. They take existing base and tweak specifically for speed at a trade off of potential stability. Google and Samsung, neither are well known for real speed improvements. They shoot for stability over mass numbers of devices vs speed. Their professional developers that know and work with the code day in and day out would nothing more than love to tweak it and massively optimize it for even their own devices but they have to march the corporate line.
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If u look back when this phone was release a year ago and all thr updates tmobile has done it s now. Completly different phone, speed and perfomance wise. Phone also doesnt hit up like a toaster like when the phone was release.
Is funny u said to go and check every update. Cause if u do the same here in xda u are going to find out most member talking about improvement, battery life and other thnlings. But i guess all of them are wrong cause is all a PLACEBO effect. If samsung didnt care about perfomance why is the U version the fastest and better version. This is why almost everyone is waiting on the nougat U version including me.
Feel sorry for u that u have to restart your phone everyday. U most have a lemon GS7 edge. I never have to do this to feel my phone fresh and fast.
sacnotsack said:
That happened with me while on MM. It took 3 factory resets from recovery before it let me in without a pin.
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This is pure BS! When I searched the web for this issue I found that this has happened before and as far back as at least 2 years ago!!
I mean, this seems like a straightforward fix from Google's side...Have the updates NOT trigger PIN requirement if there's was no PIN present. For anyone that's more familiar with such things, am I oversimplifying it here? It's just that easy isn't it?
I guess i will be updating in the am.
Compusmurf said:
at a "whopping" 51Mb, that's not a lot of updates. The "faster" effect is probably placebo.
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Seems like a small change, but I am getting better standby time. Left the phone unplugged all night last night after the update, a wipe of the cache, and a full charge. Woke up today it still had 96% battery left at least a 3% improvement over before the update.
I'll run the test again tonight to see if I get similar results. It's a pretty nice improvement if it stays that way.
ShrekOpher said:
Seems like a small change, but I am getting better standby time. Left the phone unplugged all night last night after the update, a wipe of the cache, and a full charge. Woke up today it still had 96% battery left at least a 3% improvement over before the update.
I'll run the test again tonight to see if I get similar results. It's a pretty nice improvement if it stays that way.
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Is this with ambient always on display?. I love this feature dont really want to disable it.
eduardmc said:
I havent updated yet. Just want to find put more information if fix or break anything
UPDATE: just did the update. Phone feel much snappier and fingerprint works much faster. It was already good enough with nougat update but now is even more accurate
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Probably felt faster simply because you restarted the phone as part of the installation process.
eduardmc said:
Is this with ambient always on display?. I love this feature dont really want to disable it.
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No I leave ambient off. I have my Gear Fit 2 so there really is no need to have my display on.

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