I've done a bunch of searching on this and can't find a thing; I know there are certain restrictions on the sims (locked) but that's as far as it goes.
I may be going to Greece (from US) for 2-3 months and am about to buy a Streak here in the US.
Can I use the phone there without having to go through AT&T's "overseas plan"? Can I, for example, use a Vodaphone sim or any other for that matter while I'm away?
Thanks for the help.
EDIT: Almost forgot to ask, what type of speed do I expect compared to ATT's 3G?
Short answer: no, you can't. When the phone is sim-locked, you can't use any other sim cards than att-sims.
Slightly longer answer: you may call att once you get the phone and tell them you will be staying with att, but you're going to greece for 2-3 months. they may send you an unlock code (see the other recently updated unlocking thread). i think you also have to buy the full priced version from dell, not the one with an att subscription. i just sent them a fax with a proof of purchase, because they needed to know the price i paid for the device... good luck!
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Short answer: no, you can't. When the phone is sim-locked, you can't use any other sim cards than att-sims.
Slightly longer answer: you may call att once you get the phone and tell them you will be staying with att, but you're going to greece for 2-3 months. they may send you an unlock code (see the other recently updated unlocking thread). i think you also have to buy the full priced version from dell, not the one with an att subscription. i just sent them a fax with a proof of purchase, because they needed to know the price i paid for the device... good luck!
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Seems like you have personal experience with this sort of thing.
So basically, buy a phone at full price and then maybe att will give me an unlock code?
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Seems like you have personal experience with this sort of thing.
So basically, buy a phone at full price and then maybe att will give me an unlock code?
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Not true.
I've had att provide me with the unlock code for many devices that I paid the subsidized price for.
What you have to do is call them and request it, have your devices imei # available. once they tell you that they can't access the unlock code or whatever the issue ask them what your options are and if they don't suggest to open a case then request to open one. They'll take your email from you and you should get the code within 2 weeks.
Remember to be polite and when they offer you the international roaming package, just kindly deny it and say your more comfortable with using a local sim card. Also good to say that your going overseas for business so they take you nour seriously.
As for the data speeds, find what frequency the network in greece uses then compare that to the streaks
Good luck.
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Why don't you just buy a rebel ii sim card?
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Not true.
I've had att provide me with the unlock code for many devices that I paid the subsidized price for.
What you have to do is call them and request it, have your devices imei # available. once they tell you that they can't access the unlock code or whatever the issue ask them what your options are and if they don't suggest to open a case then request to open one. They'll take your email from you and you should get the code within 2 weeks.
Remember to be polite and when they offer you the international roaming package, just kindly deny it and say your more comfortable with using a local sim card. Also good to say that your going overseas for business so they take you nour seriously.
As for the data speeds, find what frequency the network in greece uses then compare that to the streaks
Good luck.
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Well, i bought the full priced device - i can't use att when i don't live in the us..
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Why don't you just buy a rebel ii sim card?
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1. calling att is cheaper?
2. changing sim cards often when using rebel sim ii is a hassle
3. rebel sim is not a true unlock, and it complicates everything..
but, tr8rjohnk, if att won't give you the unlock code, go ahead and buy a rebel sim ii..
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1. calling att is cheaper?
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Well if you're within a geographical location that allows you to use att i would imagine you would use your att sim
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2. changing sim cards often when using rebel sim ii is a hassle
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Yeah! shutting the phone down, removing the back, taking out the battery, taking out the sim, sliding in the new sim, replacing the battery, putting the cover back on taking all of 5 valuable minutes at the start and the end of your three month tenure could really bring a man down
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3. rebel sim is not a true unlock, and it complicates everything..
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Can you, or can you not, use any sim anywhere within the developed world whilst using a rebel ii sim? Yes! so why is it different from any other unlocking technique
Good info, everyone, thanks for the input. I'll be looking into the rebel sim ii and also speaking with att.
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Well if you're within a geographical location that allows you to use att i would imagine you would use your att sim
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well, me and att are on opposite sides of the atlantic - and calling att for 10 minutes is still much cheaper than ordering (and shipping) the rebel sim..
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Yeah! shutting the phone down, removing the back, taking out the battery, taking out the sim, sliding in the new sim, replacing the battery, putting the cover back on taking all of 5 valuable minutes at the start and the end of your three month tenure could really bring a man down
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and cutting your sim? i haven't tried the rebel sim yet, (because i just unlocked my att streak with the unlock code i received) but i've heard it's more than just 'sliding in another sim'.
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Can you, or can you not, use any sim anywhere within the developed world whilst using a rebel ii sim? Yes! so why is it different from any other unlocking technique
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well, it's different in that you phone is still locked to a provider.. have you read any other threads about rebel sim? until rebel sim released the new firmware for their sims, 3g did't work properly.. as i said, it complicates things... i just punched in my 8 digit code i got from att (called them on friday), and the streak works like a charm with my (uncut) norwegian sim card..
guys, calling Att is for the US sold ATT devices. I'm pretty sure, but not 100%, that they can tell from the imei if it was sold via dell.com in the US or not. If not i don't think they'll issue you the unlock code, unless the unlock code generator that LBK Tech for At&t has doesn't distinguish the imeis
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I live in the US and I have a trip planned to London, Paris and Rome in May. I own a T-mobile G1 and was wondering what my best option was for using my G1 in those cities. I know there are a lot of European users here on XDA so I was hoping somebody could give me some advise from experience. I do realize that the 3G won't work over there no matter what I do.
Thanks for any and all help!
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I live in the US and I have a trip planned to London, Paris and Rome in May. I own a T-mobile G1 and was wondering what my best option was for using my G1 in those cities. I know there are a lot of European users here on XDA so I was hoping somebody could give me some advise from experience. I do realize that the 3G won't work over there no matter what I do.
Thanks for any and all help!
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3G should work fine. When you get there, buy a local prepaid simcard.
You need to unlock it first, call T-Mo and tell them what you just posted and they will give you the unlock code.
Your best bet for London (once you've got the phone unlocked) is a "pay as you go" sim from three. Just put £10 credit on it and you'll get a 150mb, 90day internet allowance. If you need to top it up again you get that allowance renewed every time.
Unless I am mistaking, the phone is rooted and is running a non stock rom, thus it is unlocked. I will look into the prepaid sim cards. Will I have to get a different one for each of the countries/cities?
@lbcoder: are you sure about the 3G? since this is a t-mobile phone I was under the impression that the bands it uses for 3G are only the N. American Bands and would only work over here.
Not unlocked for other networks, you need to get it unlocked to use other networks.
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Unless I am mistaking, the phone is rooted and is running a non stock rom, thus it is unlocked.
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Sim unlock isn't the same thing as root.. You need a code from t-mobile for that. They'll give you one if you tell them what you've told us.
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I will look into the prepaid sim cards. Will I have to get a different one for each of the countries/cities?
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That's going to be the cheapest way to do it.. You'll get brutally raped for roaming charges otherwise. In the UK the cards are usually free, you just have to buy the calling credit.
TMO will give you your SIM unlock code for free if your account has been paid up for 90 days or longer. They take up to 7 days. I had to get this from TMO via my American friend when I bought my G1 off him. There are places online where you can pay $25 or so and get an unlock code within hours. SIM unlock is not the same thing as root.
I'm also just about to go to Europe! Vodafone turned on global roaming for free (I just pay for calls) and they sells packs of roaming data, I got 25Mb for $50, which is way cheaper than their usual rate of $10 per 1Mb! For me this is easier than stuffing round with pre-paid SIM cards, changing number and whatever, I also don't know if a pre-paid SIM gives mobile data access? Give TMO a call and see what they offer.
I will turn off Sync and use DroidWall to make sure stuff doesn't update in the background and use all my allowance. It's really only to update Facebook to let people know I am still alive
Your G1 will most definitely work and use 3G in London. You can grab a T-Mo prepaid SIM from the multiple vending machines in the airport when you arrive in London, and swap it in and start using it immediately. I did exactly this at both Gatwick and Heathrow. Do like the other posters said and call T-Mobile in the US and get the unlock code before you fly. It's free that way. I did that too, and they are cool about it. It took about 24 hours after my request and it was emailed to me. The one thing that confused me at first was my G1 kept asking for a "SIM unlock code" or something like that after I had unlocked it using the T-Mobile code. Turns out it was a security setting that I could disable, to prevent someone from using the phone if they stole it. Two totally different "SIM unlocks". Now I know.
I know this has been posted before but I don't know if anyone really understood or paid attention so I will post what needs to be done specifically to get ur US Dell Streak unlocked. Just contact ATT in regards to unlocking, make sure your account isn't past due and tell the customer service rep that you about to be deployed (or something to that effect) overseas and be very "adamant" about it.They will in return ask for the IMEI number and provide you with a unlock code. Once you have the unlock code.. just get another carrier's sim and put in the code and your good to go.. no rebel sim or anything else..!
You do not need to make that many storied neither you need to be dramatic just call ATT and tell them you have plans to travel outside US and need an unlock code for Streak.
They will tell you should use ATT then just tell them ATT roaming is very expensive story finished
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You can order yourself a Rebel 11 sim card
vikramdhani said:
You do not need to make that many storied neither you need to be dramatic just call ATT and tell them you have plans to travel outside US and need an unlock code for Streak.
They will tell you should use ATT then just tell them ATT roaming is very expensive story finished
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You can order yourself a Rebel 11 sim card
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Its not dramatic dude..just explaining what needs to be said and done HERE IN THE US! I use to work for ATT AND I KNOW THAT THEY GIVE CUSTOMERS HASSLE OVER THE SUBSIDY CODES!
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Its not dramatic dude..just explaining what needs to be said and done HERE IN THE US! I use to work for ATT AND I KNOW THAT THEY GIVE CUSTOMERS HASSLE OVER THE SUBSIDY CODES!
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Well I am in US and i never gone through the hassle getting the code for so many of the phones
I was able to get my US ATT full price Streak unlocked by ATT, I had to fax the request after I called customer service and wait a few days but they provided the unlock
code and I am running on Cincinnati Bell now. I have also tested with TMobile and I get EDGE data and voice with no issues on both networks.
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you dont have to make up a story or tell them you are going overseas. just asked them if you can get the unlock code for your dell streak. i bought mine subsidized undercontract and im not going anwhere, they still gave it to me. http://forum.pocketables.net/showthread.php?p=56578#post56578
I am planning a trip to Europe soon. My Att Atrix is rooted and unlocked running cm9, but not unlocked for different SIM cards.
What do I need to do to have my phone work in Italy, and Denmark. I was just going to pick up a SIM card at the airport.
Do I need to flash a international radio? What provider should I buy a SIM from? Anyone recommend a specific unlocking code provider?
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1. You should buy an unlock code (I bought from ebay, 99 cents).
2. Buy sim card from GSM provider.
3. you're set.
Call ATT and ask them for unlock code. they should be able to provide it to you for free if you are a customer.
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AT&T used to provide unlock codes free if you had an account more than 90 days old. Then they changed to "the phone has to be released more than a year ago". Now they've changed again, not sure but I think back to 90 days.
Call them and ask, when you say you are going overseas they should ive you the code if their timeout has been met.
The Atrix IS a GSM 4-band international ready phone, no need to monkey with that. Unless your mods changed something, it will use the right band wherever you are.
As to which provider...ask about rates and coverage for each area you'll be in.
The unlock code from AT&T cannot actually be applied until you try to turn on the phone with an "alien" SIM card in it, so once you get the code you might want to borrow a TMobile or other SIM so you can confirm the code actually will work for you. (Or buy a cheapie here.)
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AT&T used to provide unlock codes free if you had an account more than 90 days old. Then they changed to "the phone has to be released more than a year ago". Now they've changed again, not sure but I think back to 90 days.
Call them and ask, when you say you are going overseas they should ive you the code if their timeout has been met.
The Atrix IS a GSM 4-band international ready phone, no need to monkey with that. Unless your mods changed something, it will use the right band wherever you are.
As to which provider...ask about rates and coverage for each area you'll be in.
The unlock code from AT&T cannot actually be applied until you try to turn on the phone with an "alien" SIM card in it, so once you get the code you might want to borrow a TMobile or other SIM so you can confirm the code actually will work for you. (Or buy a cheapie here.)
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Good information. I'll be honeymooning in Mexico this summer and thinking of leaving my Note at home and bringing my trusty Atrix with me.
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As long as you are using Straight Talk "AT&T" nothing needs to be unlocked. You are still on AT&T, but just using a high-lag MNVO.
WHICH carrier is your Straight Talk SIM card using? Straight Talk resells service from all four major carriers.
If you're using Straight Talk "T-Mobile", then you've got a problem.
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I have already pre-ordered Samsung Galaxy S8 and S8+ for me and my wife, will get it on 29th April. The both phones are from AT&T and I want to ask. Can I unlock them same day for Straight Talk carrier usage? I have a plan with straight talk with a cheap calls so I want to switch to them at the same day. found this this service where S8 already supported for sim unlocking. have somebody used this service before ? just want to be sure before making order there
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You probably dont need a pay service or any service at all to sim unlock it. AT&T has a website to unlock phones if they meet the criteria you just enter the info and they unlock it if you qualify.
https://www.att.com/deviceunlock/#/
Should have bought a Verizon model in that case since they come sim unlocked.
They unlock it only if you do not owe any money of the phone
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You probably dont need a pay service or any service at all to sim unlock it. AT&T has a website to unlock phones if they meet the criteria you just enter the info and they unlock it if you qualify.
https://www.att.com/deviceunlock/#/
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just a quick experience share. I've tried the service from the first post (Mod Edit). my s8+ was locked with a highest level of encryption (hard locked) by carrier, so delivery time was around 12 hours. price was 26 $ ( 13 $ first charge + 13 $ pending amount for hard locked phone). unlock code worked well from the first try and phone is unlocked now (switched from t-mobile to vodafone because they have better mobile data speed). thanks for the link. cheers
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just a quick experience share. I've tried the service from the first post (Mod Edit). my s8+ was locked with a highest level of encryption (hard locked) by carrier, so delivery time was around 12 hours. price was 26 $ ( 13 $ first charge + 13 $ pending amount for hard locked phone). unlock code worked well from the first try and phone is unlocked now (switched from t-mobile to vodafone because they have better mobile data speed). thanks for the link. cheers
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Did you just say t-mobile? They use their own device unlock app right? I wonder how you were able to unlock t-mobile Samsung Galaxy S8.
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Did you just say t-mobile? They use their own device unlock app right? I wonder how you were able to unlock t-mobile Samsung Galaxy S8.
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He's using T-Mobile Europe, not T-Mobile USA. Did you not see the Vodafone reference?
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He's using T-Mobile Europe, not T-Mobile USA. Did you not see the Vodafone reference?
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Looks like I skipped that part
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Looks like I skipped that part
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Deutsche Telekom is the parent company of T-Mobile and that brand is used in some European countries, besides the U.S. At one point, 13 countries had "T-Mobile".
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I have already pre-ordered Samsung Galaxy S8 and S8+ for me and my wife, will get it on 29th April. The both phones are from AT&T and I want to ask. Can I unlock them same day for Straight Talk carrier usage? I have a plan with straight talk with a cheap calls so I want to switch to them at the same day. found this this service where S8 already supported for sim unlocking. have somebody used this service before ? just want to be sure before making order there
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This really sucks for me. I contacted them before ordering sim Unlock for T-Mobile USA. They said since all the services are down for T-Mobile through the official app they are doing it differently where I will have to use an app made by them to enter the unlock code. Everything was fine until today when I got email from them with unlock code and Network Unlock app. I followed there instruction but their app does nothing. its useless, its like a dummy app.
App says "Connecting to server..." while it doesn't even have internet access permission. I checked by disabling the wifi and mobile data, it was still functional (as expected because it had no internet excess) it prompted me to enter unlock code but it does nothing except for saying Permanently Unlocked it literally does nothing else after entering the code. Later on I tried entering wrong codes as well and it would still say Permanently Unlocked. I have sent them multiple emails and messages but no reply yet.
I am guess the unlock code they provided might be correct but there is no way to enter it on phone since it is T-Mobile variant and only Device Unlock App can enter the unlock code.
I bought a ATT version on day one of release and paid full retail at Best buy. Figured I can unlock via their site. Nope, in fact the IMEI # wasn't coming up at all. Kept saying it was not in the system. I called ATT but they couldn't help so I returned it and bought the Verizon version and works fine on Tmo via MintSim. Only bad thing is I have to use desktop software to update since it's not on the Verizon network.
Mod Editis having a 2 day sale 30% off for $13 (vs $19). How can you tell if your phone is "hard locked"?
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just a quick experience share. I've tried the service from the first post (samsungsimunlock.com). my s8+ was locked with a highest level of encryption (hard locked) by carrier, so delivery time was around 12 hours. price was 26 $ ( 13 $ first charge + 13 $ pending amount for hard locked phone). unlock code worked well from the first try and phone is unlocked now (switched from t-mobile to vodafone because they have better mobile data speed). thanks for the link. cheers
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Mod Edit is having a 2 day sale 30% off for $13 (vs $19). How can you tell if your phone is "hard locked"?
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Thats what they told me as well that New Samsung phones are Hard Locked
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I bought a ATT version on day one of release and paid full retail at Best buy. Figured I can unlock via their site. Nope, in fact the IMEI # wasn't coming up at all. Kept saying it was not in the system. I called ATT but they couldn't help so I returned it and bought the Verizon version and works fine on Tmo via MintSim. Only bad thing is I have to use desktop software to update since it's not on the Verizon network.
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I'm assuming the VZW version is sim unlocked out of the box?
Correct, all their LTE phones are unlocked but they may not have the bands required for whichever provider one is looking to use it on. The S8 has the most bands that I read of the US releases though
Only cost £10 on eBay for a unlock code
I tried androidsimunlock.net who are my usual go to guys and they couldn't do it. So I paid at samsungsimunlock but haven't heard anything back yet. It's been over 12 hours, I've even emailed to follow up but heard nothing.
Anyone else used these guys successfully?
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Did you just say t-mobile? They use their own device unlock app right? I wonder how you were able to unlock t-mobile Samsung Galaxy S8.
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yes, my phone is from t-mobile. do you mean pre-installed t-mobile device unlock app? I have tried to unlock my phone using that app too but with no success. every time I hit the unlock button the phone just displayed an error.
samsungsimunlock com provided Network Unlock app and after I've completed all steps from the step by step guide it said "your device is permanently unlocked". I've rebooted the phone with my vodafone sim card and the phone accepted it. also I have tried orange and three carrier sim cards, they all are worked well also. 4g/LTE is working well too :victory:
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yes, my phone is from t-mobile. do you mean pre-installed t-mobile device unlock app? I have tried to unlock my phone using that app too but with no success. every time I hit the unlock button the phone just displayed an error.
samsungsimunlock com provided Network Unlock app and after I've completed all steps from the step by step guide it said "your device is permanently unlocked". I've rebooted the phone with my vodafone sim card and the phone accepted it. also I have tried orange and three carrier sim cards, they all are worked well also. 4g/LTE is working well too :victory:
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I followed their steps too but no luck yet. I have no idea why it does not work for me. After I was frustrated I decided crack down their app a little bit. It doesn't have any phone permission, I am guessing it cant put Unlock Code for the phone and the other thing is I tried some random numbers and it still said Permanently Unlocked.
Do you need to have the app installed all the time or is it fine to remove afterwards?
I called Customer service and told them I bought the phone cash from T-Mobile store and it doesn't make sense to put me on a 40 day hold to unlock, I own the phone outright. I asked was there any way to override the 40 day policy because I travel and sure enough she bypassed the policy and told me I will have to do a factory reset. I factory reset and open the unlock app and tap the permanent unlock option and boom it unlocked and the app disappeared.
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I called Customer service and told them I bought the phone cash from T-Mobile store and it doesn't make sense to put me on a 40 day hold to unlock, I own the phone outright. I asked was there any way to override the 40 day policy because I travel and sure enough she bypassed the policy and told me I will have to do a factory reset. I factory reset and open the unlock app and tap the permanent unlock option and boom it unlocked and the app disappeared.
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Same I just sent a pic of my receipt on Twitter and the guy told me about the 40 day policy but tried anyway and it worked
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Same I just sent a pic of my receipt on Twitter and the guy told me about the 40 day policy but tried anyway and it worked
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Yeah it doesn't even make to put us on a 40 day hold if we own the phone
Now if we can get you guys to unlock bootloader and then try to flash the international stock rom from OnePlus and see if it "unlocks" the second simcard imei
Can't you get the token to unlock bootloader (from oneplus) after the unlock the SIM?
Mine doesn't arrive till Monday..
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Now if we can get you guys to unlock bootloader and then try to flash the international stock rom from OnePlus and see if it "unlocks" the second simcard imei
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You can't "unlock" an IMEI it doesn't have one and the phone can't just create one
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You can't "unlock" an IMEI it doesn't have one and the phone can't just create one
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There ya go,good point. :good: (Admittedly,I didn't consider that either,THX for bringing it up).
If there is no "buried" IMEI (doubtful,at best),even if the hardware is there (less the SIM Card holder for T-Mobile models),it's not just gonna magically generate one.
Before anyone gets the idea of "putting" an existing one on there (if even possible) that discussion is off limits here @ XDA.................
I'm guessing that the special modem for TMobile variants is disabling the second SIM slot or the variant simply is different hardware then.
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If u have the right tools u may be able to write an imei to the efs partition however that would be highly illegal..I don't hold out much hope that the tmo variant is dual SIM.. as OnePlus has stated that tmo specifically chose a different variant sadly..I will be happy with unlocked bl and custom roms tho after this first month..when I need dual SIM I'll just use my XS Max.
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If u have the right tools u may be able to write an imei to the efs partition however that would be highly illegal..I don't hold out much hope that the tmo variant is dual SIM.. as OnePlus has stated that tmo specifically chose a different variant sadly..I will be happy with unlocked bl and custom roms tho after this first month..when I need dual SIM I'll just use my XS Max.
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From what I saw from T-Mobile on Twitter is their backened doesn't support dual SIM phones. Not that you can use an unlocked dual SIM phone on their Network they just can't sell them directly
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From what I saw from T-Mobile on Twitter is their backened doesn't support dual SIM phones. Not that you can use an unlocked dual SIM phone on their Network they just can't sell them directly
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That sounds more like a "won't" than a can't.
TBH,I've heard that term (backend) used a few times recently & have no idea what it really means in this context,other than just what it sounds like,they won't sell it.
I bet it's just a canned response w/no real reason other than T-Mobile & the other carriers would rather sell us two single-SIM phones vs one dual-SIM phone.
I tried and they said I couldn't until the buyer remorse period is over.
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Contacted Tmo via Twitter and they did it no problems!
Apple is having a hard time getting carriers to support dual SIM capability and this will be more difficult after the merger as control of the wireless market will be further concentrated. They are easily the most influential supporters of dual SIM capabilities in the States, lets hope they maintain that support and are joined by others that could benefit from taking back some control of the wireless market because it helps check abuses by our wireless oligopoly. Folks will do what they want but I'd carefully consider buying the Tmo version if dual SIM was something I wanted. Burned myself thinking something would come that never did more than once. I do think it's a good possibility but I use dual SIM now so wasn't taking a chance.
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Apple is having a hard time getting carriers to support dual SIM capability and this will be more difficult after the merger as control of the wireless market will be further concentrated. They are easily the most influential supporters of dual SIM capabilities in the States, lets hope they maintain that support and are joined by others that could benefit from taking back some control of the wireless market because it helps check abuses by our wireless oligopoly. Folks will do what they want but I'd carefully consider buying the Tmo version if dual SIM was something I wanted. Burned myself thinking something would come that never did more than once. I do think it's a good possibility but I use dual SIM now so wasn't taking a chance.
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T-Mobile DIGITS helps, but, it's not exactly the same. (Still only one SIM for data).
Otherwise, I'd stayed away. Been using Dual SIM phones more often than not over the past five years, since I left Sprint for T-Mobile (the sheer variety of BYOD/Dual SIM was the main reason, let alone better service).
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Nice, I just had tmobile support via twitter help get my 6T unlocked in not even 15 minutes, thanks for the tip.
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I tried and they said I couldn't until the buyer remorse period is over.
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Contacted Tmo via Twitter and they did it no problems!
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Some reps will do with no problem and other Reps make it seem as if the 40 day policy is mandatory. Just gotta keep trying till you get the Rep who doesn't give a **** lol
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If u have the right tools u may be able to write an imei to the efs partition however that would be highly illegal..I don't hold out much hope that the tmo variant is dual SIM.. as OnePlus has stated that tmo specifically chose a different variant sadly..I will be happy with unlocked bl and custom roms tho after this first month..when I need dual SIM I'll just use my XS Max.
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Illegal, just to unlock it? Then just restore original. NO?
KOLIOSIS said:
That sounds more like a "won't" than a can't.
TBH,I've heard that term (backend) used a few times recently & have no idea what it really means in this context,other than just what it sounds like,they won't sell it.
I bet it's just a canned response w/no real reason other than T-Mobile & the other carriers would rather sell us two single-SIM phones vs one dual-SIM phone.
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Backend is their systems and the network it self
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crowlaw said:
Nice, I just had tmobile support via twitter help get my 6T unlocked in not even 15 minutes, thanks for the tip.
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I think if you tell them it's for OEM unlock to be enabled most will do it
TechOut said:
Backend is their systems and the network it self
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Still sounds like they're making it out to be more expensive/labor intensive than it actually is.
If BYOD Dual-SIM phones can operate on their networks,it would stand to reason it would take little to no effort for the carriers to sell dual SIM models.
Not being disagreeable,my beef is w/the US carriers,it's nonsense.
KOLIOSIS said:
Still sounds like they're making it out to be more expensive/labor intensive than it actually is.
If BYOD Dual-SIM phones can operate on their networks,it would stand to reason it would take little to no effort for the carriers to sell dual SIM models.
Not being disagreeable,my beef is w/the US carriers,it's nonsense.
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Yes dual SIM devices work because TMobile sees it as 1 IMEI for each line. But if they sell a dual SIM phone then they have two IMEI numbers per phone in thier system. I'm guessing the iPhone works a bit different since one is virtual