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[Q] G2

Just a general question. So what do you guys do when the G2 comes out with the HSPA+...do you upgrade to it or stay with your Vibrant?
I have to stay with the vibrant, used my upgrade for it already.

I chose the vibrant because it is high end enough to stay a top device for some time, knowing I won't be upgrading again soon. The G2 may be faster (data speeds) but not sure yet how much better it will be and who knows when I get HSPA+ in my location. I am happy to stay with my vibrant and already exptected nicer phones to be released soon and I got this phone anyway. At least it will keep up with the best for time to come still.

Going to stay with the Vibrant. I was upgrade eligible back in December and was sick of playing the waiting game, even with a G1 running cyanogen. With that device I could not just pull up a browser and go to a bookmark in seconds, the lag took minutes. I thought I would miss the keyboard, but swype has impressed me.
There will be better and more powerful phones coming out soon (like always) but they will not have this screen for at least another year. I feel bad for the people who wait and wait and wait for the next best thing while never experiencing it. I also don't want to be one of the people who regrets their purchase. This is a great phone and the processor/screen/devs will keep it running for some time.

Well, I used my upgrade on the vibrant and yes I did know about the G2 and all the other Tmo phones coming out later this year.
However those phones will not be running a hummingbird processor and a Super AMOLED screen.
I am generally pretty happy with my vibrant. Other than the minor GPS issues, non functioning compass, iPhoney design and plasticy feel.
It's beauty is skin deep and I really do love it.
The G2 having HSPA+ is nice and all but i get 3-5 down and 1-2 up in NYC that's faster than my home DSL.
If the G2 does have a keyboard like rumored that will turn me off as I perfer swype over any physical keyboard any more.
The one thing that is completely enticing me towards the G2 is the stock google experience.
So it is really up to you. I am interested to see how the G2 is going to turn out.

If it's a successor to the G1, then I don't want it. I don't like the bulkiness of qwerty phones and the big bulge they make in my pocket. I'm happy with the Vibrant and it will last me couple of years.

The G2 looks really good, up until you get to the part of the processor. It's rumored to have a "budget-friendly" Snapdragon variant, and no one is sure if it's running at 800 Mhz or 1 Ghz. Even if it's the full Snapdragon that's in other devices, the Snapdragon is a dated processor compared to the Hummingbird.
Now whatever HSPA+ phone is coming out in December with the dual core 1.2 or 1.5 Qualcomm, that should be interesting. But then again, you would be trading away for what is likely an inferior display to the SAMOLED. Choices, choices.

Vibrant is still a "higher" end device. So the Vibrant wins IMO.

I'll wait until the specs are announced to make that decision. I'm sure I'd have no problem selling this phone if I end up wanting to.

I don't like having physical keyboards which is what the g2 sounds like..also if it has sense if probably stay away
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HSPA+ is pointless unless your tethering a ton of devices (by ton I mean like 5). And constant tethering becomes pointless due to Tmobiles 10gig cap.
I would rather have the Hummingbird!! Homerun battle and Heavygunner are some of the better games I've ever played on a handheld. GO GPU!!!

I'm pretty satisfied with the vibrant, although i wish the feel/weight/build quality was better like htc phones. The G2 won't have better hardware than the vibrant, but if you want better download speeds and keyboard then its justified. I say if you are gonna wait, wait for Desire HD or Glacier, if they are coming to t mobile.

I liked my vibrant but returned it due to the GPS and compass issues. If both are totally fixed by November, I'll buy the vibrant again. If not, I'll wait until the MTHD and see how that is.
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Rather have power...I also like the thin light package..My HD2 feels like a tanK.
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So I tested out a G2 today...

This phone is freakin fast! I know it's running froyo, but this beast got 29 mflops without any mods at all! Everything I did with it was instant response..no pause for anything at all and it was only on edge. When I got my vibrant, the G2 was still a month away. Anyone think the Vibrant will get anywhere near those numbers when it goes to Froyo. (I'm a benchmark whore, so this is really bugging me )
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Benchmarks are like horsepower, it is only as good as what you can use and anything more is just tire smoke and noise.... see lotus vs viper...

The vibrant doesn't support the neon instruction set, so no. Even when froyo comes out it will not reach those numbers.
On the other hand we have the best gpu on a phone yet.
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g1ftmfw said:
Benchmarks are like horsepower, it is only as good as what you can use and anything more is just tire smoke and noise.... see lotus vs viper...
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perfect example:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uG9Afp6fy0

briankao1992 said:
perfect example:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uG9Afp6fy0
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That was freakin' hilarious...point proven. Btw...never even heard of the neon instruction set. Having the best gpu is only as good as the games it plays...which is not very good right now. I hope some big name developers get working on it.
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My wife just got her g2 and honestly is very laggy compare to my vibrant and am still running stock with no lag fixes I was very surprise
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The thing is, the Vibrant is fast enough to handle any current iteration of Android. I'm using Bionix 1.8 overclocked, and I don't see what any additional speed would do for me. Faster benchmarks would be nice, but it's irrelevant to day to day use.

briankao1992 said:
perfect example:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uG9Afp6fy0
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my point exactly... 8x the power and 1/3 the weight only 11 mph faster... lol

briankao1992 said:
perfect example:
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entertaining video

oldarney said:
The vibrant doesn't support the neon instruction set, so no. Even when froyo comes out it will not reach those numbers.
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really ? I thought it did because it can play all those HD videos even without converting

Before the Nexus One got Froyo, it was in the ballpark of 7 MFLOPS. Once the update rolled out, we began to see Linpack scores in the realm of 45 MFLOPS. In its stock form, a Samsung Vibrant gets about 8 MFLOPS. I have no doubt in a dramatic increase for this number once we get Froyo (expecially if you like to use custom kernals and whatnot).

The Thing About That Is Froyo Is Pretty Much Designed For Snapdragon Processors, The Hummingbird Processor Is Completely Different It Works, But It's Not Optimized For It
At Least Thats What I've Heard

i would like to see how our phones would run with:
Froyo+custom rom which includes: modified kernel, lagfix

ryan562 said:
i would like to see how our phones would run with:
Froyo+custom rom which includes: modified kernel, lagfix
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I thought froyo was supposed to get rid of the lag therefore we wouldn't need a lag fix.

i had the evo at first. was getting about 6 or 7 mflops per second on 2.1. they dropped froyo, and i bumped up to about 38 or 39. i got the g2 on october 3rd from the shack. loved the phone. yes, fast straight out of the box. was getting about 29 to 30 with it, but with its weight, the loose hinge, the crap htc pulled with making it supposedly, unrootable, and a few other issues, i took it back after a week, and went back to the vibrant. there are a few issues with its lag, but i just install a different launcher, take away the animation settings, and my vibe feels like one of the other two phones i mentioned. just my .02.

Erickomen27 said:
The Thing About That Is Froyo Is Pretty Much Designed For Snapdragon Processors, The Hummingbird Processor Is Completely Different It Works, But It's Not Optimized For It
At Least Thats What I've Heard
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Actually, it has nothing to do with snapdragon, and everything to do with the optimisation they did to the whole OS. FroYo brings little to the table feature wise, but they did a lot of work with optimisation of the core OS.
Also, Can You Not Capitalise Every Word. It Looks Ugly, Makes It Hard To Read, And Isn't Proper Grammar.

ryan562 said:
i would like to see how our phones would run with:
Froyo+custom rom which includes: modified kernel, lagfix
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I'd be scared. I think my vibrant would be more vibrant than me.
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Vibrant on balance still the best
the others are right Benchmarks are for wow factor really.
A couple of examples ........... My friend's compter have a I7 980 chip in their computer and Wow... it benches 20% faster than My AMD 1090 But........ when actually using the computers doing the same real life tasks, mine is way faster because all the components are better balanced. That said i have 32 gigs of ram in my desktop and only have two programs that recognize that much ram........ so i will have to wait 4 years for software to catch up......NOW that extra ram is a waste...right now but it does wow the benchmark on the ram.
Bottom line the glitz (benchmarks) are just that........ Glitz...... Love the vibrant Have not seen a better phone to date

If your looking for good games to take advantage of the gpu, try the gameloft website. Sandstorm is one I'm currently pounding.
There's currently a sort of war between gameloft and the android market.
My wifi's name is airorangex.
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The G2 is not just fast in benchmarks. It just smokes the Vibrant. Everything is super fast. Whenever I install multiple apps from the Market, the Vibrant just hangs after 2-3. And during the installation stage. After I got the G2, I used App Brain to set up all the Apps on my Vibrant on to the G2. It kept on installing the apps one after another without breaking into a sweat. There is practically no lag at all on the phone. It's a very impressive phone.
Now having said that, like the other poster, I'll be returning the G2 for the same reasons. After getting used to the Vibrant, the weight is too heavy. The hinge is most definitely a problem. Lying on the bed with the phone in your hand, it keeps closing. And HTC's attempt to prevent rooting pissed me off. But Samsung is pissing me off as well with their lack of communication and delay in getting Froyo out. Sadly the dev community is not making as much progress as I had hoped with the world wide launch of the Galaxy S. I might take a look at the G2 again in a couple of months if the mod situation does not improve and Samsung continues to drag its feet.

Is anyone considering the Mytouch HD?

I know a lot of remorse periods are coming to an end. Is anyone considering returning their g2 and getting the Mytouch HD once its released??
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Heck naw. I need my keyboard and stock android.
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Yeah. No way... I had enough of cheap, plasticy phones when I replaced my MyTouch Slide with the G2. The only difference is the FFC (which isn't wide spread enough for me to care about) and the lack of keyboard (not a positive although if you really care.. its a bit thinner). Plus, the bloated, expresso garbage (the worst form of sense ui, ever). Not a good choice unless you're a tweener, lol

sino8r said:
Yeah. No way... I had enough of cheap, plasticy phones when I replaced my MyTouch Slide with the G2. The only difference is the FFC (which isn't wide spread enough for me to care about) and the lack of keyboard (not a positive although if you really care.. its a bit thinner). Plus, the bloated, expresso garbage (the worst form of sense ui, ever). Not a good choice unless you're a tweener, lol
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I agree the G2 looks way better and the genius button is pretty dumb.

kylez64 said:
I agree the G2 looks way better and the genius button is pretty dumb.
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The genius button isn't too bad once it remapped to search button. Then you can map a long press to another app like a led flashlight or task manager. Basically, its the same guts as the G2 only no kb and add a ffc. It would a stupid upgrade from a G2. Waste of money, imo.

sino8r said:
Yeah. No way... I had enough of cheap, plasticy phones when I replaced my MyTouch Slide with the G2. The only difference is the FFC (which isn't wide spread enough for me to care about) and the lack of keyboard (not a positive although if you really care.. its a bit thinner). Plus, the bloated, expresso garbage (the worst form of sense ui, ever). Not a good choice unless you're a tweener, lol
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Exactly...

sino8r said:
The genius button isn't too bad once it remapped to search button. Then you can map a long press to another app like a led flashlight or task manager. Basically, its the same guts as the G2 only no kb and add a ffc. It would a stupid upgrade from a G2. Waste of money, imo.
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No it does not have the same guts as the G2. It features the 1Ghz MSM8255 chip which is substantially faster than the G2's MSM7230. Its not the same chip overclocked to 1Ghz; its an entirely different chip. Its the same one found in the Desire HD.
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mftek said:
I know a lot of remorse periods are coming to an end. Is anyone considering returning their g2 and getting the Mytouch HD once its released??
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heck no. having played with my wife's MT Slide, im not impressed with the plasticy feel of the phone or the terrible sense UI. the only thing this new mytouch has going for it is a bigger screen. the front camera is useless unless you know others with a front camera (i dont).

I personally, am going to check out the new mytouch. When reviewed by engadget, the build quality was said to be very solid, with the same metal accents the g2 has. The front facing camera would be great for chatting with my daughter in georgia, I rarely use the keyboard on my g2(I was using my nexus one previously), and as soon as it's rooted I'll be switching to vanilla android with launcherpro anyways.
So what's the big deal? I don't buy a device for what it does, but rather for what it CAN DO.
Had I known about the new mytouch sooner, I would have waited. Now my 14 days are up and I'll have to sell/trade my g2.
As a side note: if anyone is going to be buying the g2 as new service or as an upgrade, get in touch with me. Maybe we can work something out where you get the new mytouch instead and I give you my flawless g2 and pay the difference.

Won't be trading mine. This g2 is hot. Haha. the damn thing is fast as hell at 800mhz. I played with the droid x and droid 2. The speed of the g2 eats them alive and I think those are 1ghz phones? I could be wrong
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The Great NY said:
Won't be trading mine. This g2 is hot. Haha. the damn thing is fast as hell at 800mhz. I played with the droid x and droid 2. The speed of the g2 eats them alive and I think those are 1ghz phones? I could be wrong
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Optimization is key here. If anyone here has done anything with motorsports you know this very well. All the aftermarket parts in the world won't make you go faster without the proper tune. 1ghz means nothing if the code doesn't use it properly. This is why the g2 runs so well. The right hardware, coupled with a vanilla OS with no customizations.

I will be getting one to go along with my G2. I've actually held the new MyTouch and it is not plastic or cheaply built. I was actually pleasantly surprised at how nice it was, I just wish there was no Genius button as well.
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InGeNeTiCs said:
Optimization is key here. If anyone here has done anything with motorsports you know this very well. All the aftermarket parts in the world won't make you go faster without the proper tune. 1ghz means nothing if the code doesn't use it properly. This is why the g2 runs so well. The right hardware, coupled with a vanilla OS with no customizations.
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Haha...funny u should mention cars. I'm actually a builder and a tuner..lol. so I know exactly what u mean
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If the MyTouch is the North American version of the HD, I would suspect the G2 would be an overall better performer. Here is my reasoning, take it how you will:
The 1ghz scorpion that the Desire HD uses has a less powerful GPU than the 800 mhz processor the G2 and Desire Z use. Additionally, the g2 has a larger battery than the Desire HD despite the HD's larger screen ( 1,300mAh battery on G2 vsthe Desire HD features a 1230mAh ) which could suggest the need for more power under the hood despite lower clock speed.
Many have suggested that the 800mghz is deliberately underlocked and the fact that there is now an OC that doesnt require whole new kernel would suggest that this is true.
My personal take: going on pure processing specs alone (and assuming the MyTouch HD/4g is the same as the Desire HD under the hood) then the g2 is the clear winner.
Going on product design, it really depends on whether you want an FFC or a hardware keyboard.
Going on aesthetics i think the g2 wins - even if the MyTouch build quality is high, it still has a toylike look.
I suspect at the end of the day, out of the box the g2 runs faster w/ a better battery life given stock android, faster gpu, and smaller screen. It remains to be seen what root will do to these two devices and how the current g2 OC affects battery life.
I also suspect that if the g2 and mytouch ere to get gingerbread (unconfirmed), it would come slightly faster to the g2 OTA given that sense would not have to be ported.

sino8r said:
Yeah. No way... I had enough of cheap, plasticy phones when I replaced my MyTouch Slide with the G2. The only difference is the FFC (which isn't wide spread enough for me to care about) and the lack of keyboard (not a positive although if you really care.. its a bit thinner). Plus, the bloated, expresso garbage (the worst form of sense ui, ever). Not a good choice unless you're a tweener, lol
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The mytouch4g isn't plastic.

No
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I still have 6 days left and I'm loving the G2 so far that I don't think it'd be worth it to get the MT HD. A lot of my friends have the iPhone 4 and they rarely use the FFC, and I doubt I would too. And coming from a iPhone 3G I'm loving the physical keyboard.
I miss android, the way it handles everything, still remember when one user wrote reboot and we found root back in the G1 days.
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InGeNeTiCs said:
Optimization is key here. If anyone here has done anything with motorsports you know this very well. All the aftermarket parts in the world won't make you go faster without the proper tune. 1ghz means nothing if the code doesn't use it properly. This is why the g2 runs so well. The right hardware, coupled with a vanilla OS with no customizations.
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Not really...
A G2 running at 1Ghz will out-perform a G2 running at stock 800mhz 100% of the time (on CPU-bound operations), on 100% of devices. There is no hand-tuning for one particular speed.
Don't give HTC this much credit. All they do is take ASOP code and code in their little hacks to lock down the device. In the grand scheme of things, they know very little about tuning an OS to a particular piece of hardware.

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Not really...
A G2 running at 1Ghz will out-perform a G2 running at stock 800mhz 100% of the time (on CPU-bound operations), on 100% of devices. There is no hand-tuning for one particular speed.
Don't give HTC this much credit. All they do is take ASOP code and code in their little hacks to lock down the device. In the grand scheme of things, they know very little about tuning an OS to a particular piece of hardware.
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Completely agree. Take a look at this site, if you think HTC has a clue about drivers and tuning.
http://htcclassaction.org/

ericc191 said:
Completely agree. Take a look at this site, if you think HTC has a clue about drivers and tuning.
http://htcclassaction.org/
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lol
HTC builds their devices to the specs of their customers (mainly carriers), if their customers don't want to dig deep in their pockets for HTC to build the proper drivers, HTC isn't going to waste resources on something their customers has not asked for.

[Q] MyTouch 4g CPU and GPU

Hey XDA,
I currently have a MyTouch 3g 32B. Yeah I know, ancient, right? I'm currently looking to upgrade to either a T-mobile MyTouch 4g or a T-mobile G2 (aka Desire Z).
I'm into custom ROMs, radios, hboots, SPLs, kernels, you guys know the drill. I'm pretty dedicated to Cyanogenmod, and I've noticed that they only support the G2 right now, I haven't really heard anything about the MyTouch and CM. So this gives the G2 a big advantage over the MyTouch.
Keyboard doesn't matter. The front facing camera gives the MyTouch a little bit of an edge. I'm leaning towards G2 because of modding.
This isn't really a versus thread, as I have almost all the info I want from gsmarena.com. But I'm having a hard time comparing the CPU and GPU in the two phones. Not much turns up on Google. Obviously the speeds are different, but that doesn't matter much as I'll be overclocking it.
So which phone has a better CPU/GPU? I've heard the G2's GPU is currently the best, not sure how true that is. I will be using the phone for emulators.
The question: what does XDA think of the CPUs/GPUs? Can anyone give me the model of GPU the phones use?
Thanks!
Nick
P.S. Cross-posted to G2 general.

I had the G2 and I can tell you 100% this phone is hands down better. CM will come to this device soon as well. Don't settle for a phone based on what it's development is at in a given time. Look at what is better in terms of hardware and over all device specs. With 786 mb of RAM and FFC and perm root this MT4G nails the coffin on the heavy loose dangling hinged G2.
A good developer is going to be receiving his MT4G really soon to pick up the CM port for our MT4G.

I also love the MT4G and there WILL be many roms on it just look in the general discussion section where they have raised money to buy phones for devs to allow them to make roms. but about the G2 hinge problem just check it at the store before you buy it (hold it upside down ...) my friend did this and he got 1 with a very sturdy hinge. As to your gpu/cpu I don't know but I think the CPU is the same (don't take my word for it though).

CPU =MSM8x55 at 1Ghz
GPU = Adreno 205
The MSM7x30, MSM8x55, and the MSM8x50a all use a 45nm process. The speeds are 800Mhz, 1Ghz, and 1.3Ghz respectively.
The Adreno 205 is a significant performance enhancement from the Adreno 200 found in the first gen snapdragon processors found in the Nexus One, etc.
The MT4G MSM8x55 is likely an o/c'd version of the MSM7x30 as alot of references to MSM7x30 are made in build.prop and throughout the rest of the OS. Same situation probably from the MSM8x55 to the MSM8x50a. Intel does this with their cpu's all the time. O/C, stamp a different model number on it, and sell it at a premium price.
MSM = Mobile Station Modem
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The MT4G MSM8x55 is likely an o/c'd version of the MSM7x30 as alot of references to MSM7x30 are made in build.prop and throughout the rest of the OS. Same situation probably from the MSM8x55 to the MSM8x50a. Intel does this with their cpu's all the time. O/C, stamp a different model number on it, and sell it at a premium price.
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Thanks I was looking for a post like this. So basically what the 4g has over the G2 is the FFC and more RAM? I kind of like the look of the G2, it's more.. professional looking? I'm not sure yet. Thanks for the posts so far guys!

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Thanks I was looking for a post like this. So basically what the 4g has over the G2 is the FFC and more RAM? I kind of like the look of the G2, it's more.. professional looking? I'm not sure yet. Thanks for the posts so far guys!
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To each his own. I personally had 2 g2's and ended up sending them both back for random reboots and loose hinges. The reboots were fixed with the ota and custom roms I think but that hinge made me almost drop the phone several times and was going to do nothing but get worse over time. And it seemed to loosen up very quickly. Just FYI.
My MyGlacier 4G MINE!!!

I too owned the G2 and it was a great device. It was smoother than the 4g but I'm sure that's due to the fact that it doesn't have a skin on top #cough cough# sense LOL
... I really miss the hinge and keyboard... you really can't go wrong with either device but the 4g is cheaper and has more features...
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If you can be patient. I'd imagine a port from CM will be forth coming very soon.
I came from a 32B myself and this phone even with Sense is way better.
I personally like a physical keyboard like my wife's Slide, but her and I both like the MT4G better.
Your choice though.

the mt4g is okay but the g2 is nothing to sneeze at, sense is nice but stock is better in my opinion, hmmm I wonder which phone will get Gingerbread first if the other gets it at all (officially anyway) you know some things work but most things are broken.

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the mt4g is okay but the g2 is nothing to sneeze at, sense is nice but stock is better in my opinion, hmmm I wonder which phone will get Gingerbread first if the other gets it at all (officially anyway) you know some things work but most things are broken.
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I heard the reason why the g2 and the mt4g only have about 1gb instead of the 4gb as advertised is because some of that space is being saved up for gingerbread so eventually both devices will get updated
BTW just because the g2 currently can run CM doesn't mean that is superior than the mt4g just wait until they release some roms for this bad boy and will see how much this phone kicks ass even the stock Rom runs great just use LauncherPro instead of mySense no lag whatsoever

I had a G2 for about 2 weeks, and sent it back under the buyers remorse. Basically in stock form I like the G2 better, but felt the mytouch has a bit more longevity to it where it has more ram..that said I dont think you can go wrong with either phone. I am a stock froyo guy over sense or my sense crap but thats just my personal preference.
Running different benchmarks when clocked the same the G2 pulled ahead by a hair on most but I credit that to the mytouch running my sense, in actually using the devices I found the G2 to be smoother as well, but again the whole my sense thing again.
The mytouch line always seemed kinda kiddish to me somehow and it seems that a new model is always on the horizon, not trying to insult anyone that has one, or likes them..hell I have one currently lol, but I just cant shake the feeling that I am using a lesser phone, even though I know I am not.
Side by side I found the G2 to have a better display, colors looked more vivid and eye popping despite the mytouch having a slightly larger screen, the mytouch is slightly washed out looking, but that was only evident to me when they were side by side, using the phone on its own the mytouch is just fine and you dont really notice the colors and stuff when its not in a side by side direct comparison.
I suppose the end result would be whatever one you like better, both are good and the mytouch will have more ROMs for it shortly so that shouldnt really weigh in on your decision.

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Should I return and get a G2?

So I got the Samsung Galaxy S 4G on friday and idk what it is but im iffy on it. I like everything about it no complaints but the G2 has been on my eye since it came out. So im asking you all with your own experience with the G2 if i should go return and get one.

Haven't personally used the galaxy S 4g. Is it the same as the previous one, but with a new radio in it basically? Seems to be the case.
The G2 is a great phone and I'm sure you'll obviously get mostly positive reviews in the G2 section, but its up to you really. At this point in time, unfortunately, the G2 is starting to get a bit dated (sad considering it just came out in September), but then again the GS 4G is gonna be shadowed by the newer Galaxy S II devices coming out soon as well all the same. I would put them in the same group really.
The phones are quite different, considering that the G2 is stock android and a keyboard slider, whereas the Galaxy S 4G has a customized TouchWiz UI and no keyboard. Performance is about the same I'm sure, but its really up to your preferences at that point. The GS 4G has a front facing camera, and a slightly faster processor (out of the box that is, you can overclock the G2 just as much), and other than that, not much. The biggest deal is which form factor you like more.
If you plan on rooting your phone and going that route, and that is something that is important to you, maybe you should look and see how the dev communities of each phone suit you. This also means that the stock software differences between the 2 wont really matter because you'll be putting custom ROMs on it anyways then.

If the Vibrant 4g is the same thing as the Vibrant except for the 4g chip, go for the g2. I came from a Vibrant to a g2, and I wish I had done it earlier. The g2 is faster straight out of the box, no stupid lagfixes needed. I was at first concerned about going from a 1ghz chip to an 800, but the g2 blows the Vibrant away, even without overclocking.

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If the Vibrant 4g is the same thing as the Vibrant except for the 4g chip, go for the g2. I came from a Vibrant to a g2, and I wish I had done it earlier. The g2 is faster straight out of the box, no stupid lagfixes needed. I was at first concerned about going from a 1ghz chip to an 800, but the g2 blows the Vibrant away, even without overclocking.
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Yea lol so true but I wouldn't mind having a phone with a bigger screen since I peronally like big screens but that's me. As for the G2 its a fast phone, never shows lag even if you have filled the screen with wigets
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To me the vibrant was light and simple. Great for calls and watching movies and listening to music. I do a lot more on my G2. Emails, more texting... I just feel more productive with a keyboard.

Cheeze[iT] said:
To me the vibrant was light and simple. Great for calls and watching movies and listening to music. I do a lot more on my G2. Emails, more texting... I just feel more productive with a keyboard.
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I feel yea. I do some of my essays on my phone. (Document to go app)
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G2 all the way baby. Screw that galaxy bull****. Screen size diff ain't that big a deal hombre.
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GhostZini said:
G2 all the way baby. Screw that galaxy bull****. Screen size diff ain't that big a deal hombre.
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Word... To be honest, you really don't notice much of a difference between the 2 screen sizes. Watching Inception on 4 inches vs 3.7 is not going to show you what you were missing out on. It's still a tiny screen for movies. The difference with the screen will be the LCD vs SAMOLED. Its nice, but not worth everything else the G2 has, from amazing hardware, software and dev support to the camera flash and slide out keyboard.
Unless you do some serious video chatting, I'd get a G2 and wait to majorly upgrade in 6 months or so when we have a bunch of dual cores on the market.

Trust me, go with the galaxy s, once you root it you will love it. It has a faster processor than the g2, a bigger screen, a super amoled display, and is thinner and more durable. I felt the same way you feel at first about my galaxy s, but now this is the only phone I want. Its AMAZING.
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g2 or the desire z is a good phone..except the keyboard and the ****ing loose hinge..

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Trust me, go with the galaxy s, once you root it you will love it. It has a faster processor than the g2, a bigger screen, a super amoled display, and is thinner and more durable. I felt the same way you feel at first about my galaxy s, but now this is the only phone I want. Its AMAZING.
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Let me preface this by saying to each his own. I would never discourage someone from trying any other Android phone. That being said.... I have never used a Fascinate but had a Vibrant and LOVED it until I realized how awesome the G2 is. The problem is, the ONLY way to love that phone, is to root it. And even then, a lagfix must be implemented for decent performance. I remember when I shat my pants because the Vibrant could be OC'd to 1.4gzh and show me a Quad of 2300. My G2 can do that if I submerge it in the toilet and run Rhapsody while I OC and run the benchmark (hyperbole alert).
Maybe the GPS is fixed on the SGS4G, but it was awful on the Vibrant for so many people. It's durability is easily questionable, as it feels like it is made of dollar store parts. It only has a faster processor out of the box. The G2 is capable of much, MUCH more.
Bottom line, IMO, if one is better than the other, the differences come down to user preference and not general real world experience. Team Whiskey makes some AMAZING ROMs for the Vibrant, but CM is barely limping along with bug after bug. And I don't even know for sure that Vibrant ROMs can be run on the SGS4G, or how complicated that particular Port is.

Thanks for the input guys I have 1 week to decide what to do. I was wondering what the Quad for the G2 is just off the bat because mine is only about 975.

i have used a few phones beforee settling on my g2. one of htem was the samsung captivate which is basically the galaxy s 4g in a different body and without the 4g. i can tell you that the g2 is way better. samsung makes th galaxy s phones really crappy(all plastic) and probably wont ever give the new galaxy s an update that all of the other galaxy s users are still waiting for(2.2!).

I have had stock Quad scored range from 1500 - 2000, rooted and OC'd I can get in the 3000's

if i were you then i would exchange them, but i cant work without a physical keyboard

I have a regular Vibrant and a G2 (one is a work phone). Both rooted on custom ROMs. G2 is on CM7 while Vibrant is still on Froyo.
If they could have put the Vibrant screen on the G2, it would be the best phone on the market. I'm not saying just because of the keyboard, but the G2 is a more solid phone over all. It's faster (albeit, overclocked) over all.
To each his own though. Having CM7 is worth it for me.

IMO G2/Desire Z is one of the best phones out there and is worth the money. I have been using it since december, been back and forth between nexus one, desire, desire z and i am finally picking up my dz back. not letting it go this time... love this phone... it really rocks...

I'm currently a captivate user on att contract, and I am thinking about jumping over to a DZ... but I am having trouble justifying paying 500$-ish for a new unlocked phone that people are starting to call "dated."
However, I made it a point to myself that I will NEVER buy a smartphone without a physical qwerty ever again. Swype was cool for a few months, but it's impossible to be productive with an entirely touch screen phone... and to me that's just a contradiction to the "smart" in smartphone itself

Could always wait alittle longer for the "next-gen" dual core phones set to be released later this year

no i dont recommend this phone..if u rly rly need a keyboard phone then u can get it otherwise i recommend nexus S