Should I return and get a G2? - G2 and Desire Z General

So I got the Samsung Galaxy S 4G on friday and idk what it is but im iffy on it. I like everything about it no complaints but the G2 has been on my eye since it came out. So im asking you all with your own experience with the G2 if i should go return and get one.

Haven't personally used the galaxy S 4g. Is it the same as the previous one, but with a new radio in it basically? Seems to be the case.
The G2 is a great phone and I'm sure you'll obviously get mostly positive reviews in the G2 section, but its up to you really. At this point in time, unfortunately, the G2 is starting to get a bit dated (sad considering it just came out in September), but then again the GS 4G is gonna be shadowed by the newer Galaxy S II devices coming out soon as well all the same. I would put them in the same group really.
The phones are quite different, considering that the G2 is stock android and a keyboard slider, whereas the Galaxy S 4G has a customized TouchWiz UI and no keyboard. Performance is about the same I'm sure, but its really up to your preferences at that point. The GS 4G has a front facing camera, and a slightly faster processor (out of the box that is, you can overclock the G2 just as much), and other than that, not much. The biggest deal is which form factor you like more.
If you plan on rooting your phone and going that route, and that is something that is important to you, maybe you should look and see how the dev communities of each phone suit you. This also means that the stock software differences between the 2 wont really matter because you'll be putting custom ROMs on it anyways then.

If the Vibrant 4g is the same thing as the Vibrant except for the 4g chip, go for the g2. I came from a Vibrant to a g2, and I wish I had done it earlier. The g2 is faster straight out of the box, no stupid lagfixes needed. I was at first concerned about going from a 1ghz chip to an 800, but the g2 blows the Vibrant away, even without overclocking.

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If the Vibrant 4g is the same thing as the Vibrant except for the 4g chip, go for the g2. I came from a Vibrant to a g2, and I wish I had done it earlier. The g2 is faster straight out of the box, no stupid lagfixes needed. I was at first concerned about going from a 1ghz chip to an 800, but the g2 blows the Vibrant away, even without overclocking.
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Yea lol so true but I wouldn't mind having a phone with a bigger screen since I peronally like big screens but that's me. As for the G2 its a fast phone, never shows lag even if you have filled the screen with wigets
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To me the vibrant was light and simple. Great for calls and watching movies and listening to music. I do a lot more on my G2. Emails, more texting... I just feel more productive with a keyboard.

Cheeze[iT] said:
To me the vibrant was light and simple. Great for calls and watching movies and listening to music. I do a lot more on my G2. Emails, more texting... I just feel more productive with a keyboard.
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I feel yea. I do some of my essays on my phone. (Document to go app)
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G2 all the way baby. Screw that galaxy bull****. Screen size diff ain't that big a deal hombre.
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GhostZini said:
G2 all the way baby. Screw that galaxy bull****. Screen size diff ain't that big a deal hombre.
G2 with meXdroid GingerMex Habanero
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Word... To be honest, you really don't notice much of a difference between the 2 screen sizes. Watching Inception on 4 inches vs 3.7 is not going to show you what you were missing out on. It's still a tiny screen for movies. The difference with the screen will be the LCD vs SAMOLED. Its nice, but not worth everything else the G2 has, from amazing hardware, software and dev support to the camera flash and slide out keyboard.
Unless you do some serious video chatting, I'd get a G2 and wait to majorly upgrade in 6 months or so when we have a bunch of dual cores on the market.

Trust me, go with the galaxy s, once you root it you will love it. It has a faster processor than the g2, a bigger screen, a super amoled display, and is thinner and more durable. I felt the same way you feel at first about my galaxy s, but now this is the only phone I want. Its AMAZING.
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g2 or the desire z is a good phone..except the keyboard and the ****ing loose hinge..

jkat797 said:
Trust me, go with the galaxy s, once you root it you will love it. It has a faster processor than the g2, a bigger screen, a super amoled display, and is thinner and more durable. I felt the same way you feel at first about my galaxy s, but now this is the only phone I want. Its AMAZING.
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Let me preface this by saying to each his own. I would never discourage someone from trying any other Android phone. That being said.... I have never used a Fascinate but had a Vibrant and LOVED it until I realized how awesome the G2 is. The problem is, the ONLY way to love that phone, is to root it. And even then, a lagfix must be implemented for decent performance. I remember when I shat my pants because the Vibrant could be OC'd to 1.4gzh and show me a Quad of 2300. My G2 can do that if I submerge it in the toilet and run Rhapsody while I OC and run the benchmark (hyperbole alert).
Maybe the GPS is fixed on the SGS4G, but it was awful on the Vibrant for so many people. It's durability is easily questionable, as it feels like it is made of dollar store parts. It only has a faster processor out of the box. The G2 is capable of much, MUCH more.
Bottom line, IMO, if one is better than the other, the differences come down to user preference and not general real world experience. Team Whiskey makes some AMAZING ROMs for the Vibrant, but CM is barely limping along with bug after bug. And I don't even know for sure that Vibrant ROMs can be run on the SGS4G, or how complicated that particular Port is.

Thanks for the input guys I have 1 week to decide what to do. I was wondering what the Quad for the G2 is just off the bat because mine is only about 975.

i have used a few phones beforee settling on my g2. one of htem was the samsung captivate which is basically the galaxy s 4g in a different body and without the 4g. i can tell you that the g2 is way better. samsung makes th galaxy s phones really crappy(all plastic) and probably wont ever give the new galaxy s an update that all of the other galaxy s users are still waiting for(2.2!).

I have had stock Quad scored range from 1500 - 2000, rooted and OC'd I can get in the 3000's

if i were you then i would exchange them, but i cant work without a physical keyboard

I have a regular Vibrant and a G2 (one is a work phone). Both rooted on custom ROMs. G2 is on CM7 while Vibrant is still on Froyo.
If they could have put the Vibrant screen on the G2, it would be the best phone on the market. I'm not saying just because of the keyboard, but the G2 is a more solid phone over all. It's faster (albeit, overclocked) over all.
To each his own though. Having CM7 is worth it for me.

IMO G2/Desire Z is one of the best phones out there and is worth the money. I have been using it since december, been back and forth between nexus one, desire, desire z and i am finally picking up my dz back. not letting it go this time... love this phone... it really rocks...

I'm currently a captivate user on att contract, and I am thinking about jumping over to a DZ... but I am having trouble justifying paying 500$-ish for a new unlocked phone that people are starting to call "dated."
However, I made it a point to myself that I will NEVER buy a smartphone without a physical qwerty ever again. Swype was cool for a few months, but it's impossible to be productive with an entirely touch screen phone... and to me that's just a contradiction to the "smart" in smartphone itself

Could always wait alittle longer for the "next-gen" dual core phones set to be released later this year

no i dont recommend this phone..if u rly rly need a keyboard phone then u can get it otherwise i recommend nexus S

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I feel stupid....did I make a mistake buying the N1?

I bought the N1 and its on it way, I was really happy and that was my final choice, until today I was checking out the Euro Version of the Galaxy S and it has 1900 mhz 3g which is used in my Area! I could have bought that and had a bigger/better screen, Better Processor, Better Camera, and Design (subjective).
I do like the N1 dont get me wrong but that Super Amoled Screen is mouth watering lol
solidkevin said:
I bought the N1 and its on it way, I was really happy and that was my final choice, until today I was checking out the Euro Version of the Galaxy S and it has 1900 mhz 3g which is used in my Area! I could have bought that and had a bigger/better screen, Better Processor, Better Camera, and Design (subjective).
I do like the N1 dont get me wrong but that Super Amoled Screen is mouth watering lol
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Unless you bought it on eBay etc, you could just return it.
Also, Galaxy S = no camera flash (absurd), Android 2.1 (2.2 in 4+ months), and a crappy skin on it.
Yea I bought on eBay, Im sure its not a Big Deal, the N1 is a fantastic phone, I love it, but I just think the Galaxy S looks really nice! Haven't used one though.
solidkevin said:
Yea I bought on eBay, Im sure its not a Big Deal, the N1 is a fantastic phone, I love it, but I just think the Galaxy S looks really nice! Haven't used one though.
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I have used both, and while the Galaxy is a very nice phone, I can honestly say theres no way I would trade my Nexus One for a Galaxy S.
i wouldnt worry as much as you are. the nexus has a lot of advantages that the galaxy S does not. google updates, colored trackball, unlock bootloader, camera flash, superb build quality and materials and feel in comparison to the lightweight plasticky galaxy s, etc.
Thanks guys! Im sure the GS Is very nice but the N1 does indeed own!
ive actually been considering a galaxy s also and luckily my friend picked up one with his new contract a few days ago. after playing it with, i can tell you both are nice phones and you cant go wrong either way.
ive had my n1 for several months now so i have experienced many of the bugs the n1 has such as in rare cases, the n1 will send a text message to the wrong person (thought i did something wrong the one time it happened to but apparently its a bug; i text a lot too). i agree with the other poster in the feel of the n1 is better than all the other phones i have held and is only beaten by the new iphone.
my friend has the samsung vibrant, and for some reason, it doesnt have flash so if taking night pictures is a big deal for you, the n1 wins. however, i felt the the vibrant took better day pictures. the vibrant also has a night mode that is better than the other phones i have had, but is no replacement for flash. the same applies to video recording, vibrant wins during the day in both video and sound recording, and n1 wins in recording in dark places.
if gaming is a big deal for you, the galaxy s is the winner. i was playing psx4droid on the vibrant and although i didnt notice any speed improvements over the n1, i can tell you the vibrant supports at least a 3 finger multitouch, over the n1's 2.
one of the biggest flaws i felt the n1 had is the speaker. i am constantly missing calls and the quality is pretty bad, but somehow samsung managed to put in a worse speaker, or at least i thought so
Yeah, I don't think the Galaxy S is superior, more like on the same class.
Galaxy S has a better screen (larger, brighter) and more internal storage but no led notification, most likely no updates past 2.2, no camera flash. CPU is about equivalent. N1 seems better built. I just got my N1 two weeks ago and was also considering the Galaxy S but stock Android was what sold me on the N1.
It doesn't matter if the Galaxy S is better or not, a better phone will come along and surpass both phones. If you're not happy with the Nexus One now, you're not gonna be happy when every new big phone comes out.
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It doesn't matter if the Galaxy S is better or not, a better phone will come along and surpass both phones. If you're not happy with the Nexus One now, you're not gonna be happy when every new big phone comes out.
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Yup, but in six months when N1 is rocking android 3.0 and GS still has 2.1/2.2 you'd be much happier with a N1.
solidkevin said:
I bought the N1 and its on it way, I was really happy and that was my final choice, until today I was checking out the Euro Version of the Galaxy S and it has 1900 mhz 3g which is used in my Area! I could have bought that and had a bigger/better screen, Better Processor, Better Camera, and Design (subjective).
I do like the N1 dont get me wrong but that Super Amoled Screen is mouth watering lol
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The N1 might be out shined in a few of those areas, but like others have mentioned, it will be the first to get Gingerbread. The Galaxy S probably never will. Samsung is going to expect you to purchase a new phone for 3.0 instead.
blablum said:
Yup, but in six months when N1 is rocking android 3.0 and GS still has 2.1/2.2 you'd be much happier with a N1.
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Ya but shortly after that, something else will come out running 3.0 that's better than the N1, its a continual cycle. I'm just happy that the N1 is an awesome phone in itself, another phone may be better but it shouldn't take anything away from what I can do with mine.
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Ya but shortly after that, something else will come out running 3.0 that's better than the N1, its a continual cycle. I'm just happy that the N1 is an awesome phone in itself, another phone may be better but it shouldn't take anything away from what I can do with mine.
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You are right, and I agree. My point is, in six months he might not be ready to get a new phone yet (like I know will be my case), and in that case it is better to have a N1 over the GS. That was my reasoning choosing the N1. Of course, there might be unofficial 3.0 roms available for both phones, so maybe it will be a non issue at all for the OP.
I agree. N1 has its own unique speciality. Galaxy S is better in may way (because it came out later) but Nexus One can be modified easily and there are a lot of developers for it so that u can customize it to ur liking
Everything on the nexus is awesome .. it's just the touch screen.. multitouch doesn't work well on games and emulators.. but other than that it's an awesome receiving all the love
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I actually got my Nexus one recently and I'm fortunate that living in England pretty much all android devices are available.
I went there knowing the Galaxy S for instance can easily outperform the Nexus in most areas, especially in graphical terms.
I had a play with the Galaxy and two things struck me between that and the Nexus, I felt the Galaxy is too big and not easily pocketable and the 2nd was it just didn't feel like a precision bit of kit like the Nexus.
The Nexus just feels like it's in the top class when it comes to design and the Galaxy less so.
For me it's a no brainer, proper camera, beautiful device and it doesn't get all of the custom stuff over the top.
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I am contemplating selling my nexus one and getting a galaxy s. I would be sad to lose the trackball wake and led flashlight that my fine rooted nexus brings, but I am tired of struggling to use my phone in the sunlight, and would be happy to have a more responsive screen and better GPU.
I had the Galaxy and it doesn't even compare to the quality of the Nexus one. The Nexus One is the best built device still today. The quality build is 2nd to none and the looks are just killer. I think the 3.7 inch screen is the best size for a phone. Go Nexus One. The only thing better may be the Nexus Two.
^ Well said! The Galaxy is not in the same league as the Nexus! Even though I do like the name
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^ Well said! The Galaxy is not in the same league as the Nexus! Even though I do like the name
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Keep tellin' yourself that if it makes you feel better.
A friend has the tmo version. It is very nice. Smooth video recording with audio that is significantly better. No flash? As if the n1 camera and flash is anything to crow about. Lol. Photos don't have purple blobs in the middle on the vibrant.
But it was the video he got out of it that impressed me the most.
The n1 does feel better built.
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[Q] G2

Just a general question. So what do you guys do when the G2 comes out with the HSPA+...do you upgrade to it or stay with your Vibrant?
I have to stay with the vibrant, used my upgrade for it already.
I chose the vibrant because it is high end enough to stay a top device for some time, knowing I won't be upgrading again soon. The G2 may be faster (data speeds) but not sure yet how much better it will be and who knows when I get HSPA+ in my location. I am happy to stay with my vibrant and already exptected nicer phones to be released soon and I got this phone anyway. At least it will keep up with the best for time to come still.
Going to stay with the Vibrant. I was upgrade eligible back in December and was sick of playing the waiting game, even with a G1 running cyanogen. With that device I could not just pull up a browser and go to a bookmark in seconds, the lag took minutes. I thought I would miss the keyboard, but swype has impressed me.
There will be better and more powerful phones coming out soon (like always) but they will not have this screen for at least another year. I feel bad for the people who wait and wait and wait for the next best thing while never experiencing it. I also don't want to be one of the people who regrets their purchase. This is a great phone and the processor/screen/devs will keep it running for some time.
Well, I used my upgrade on the vibrant and yes I did know about the G2 and all the other Tmo phones coming out later this year.
However those phones will not be running a hummingbird processor and a Super AMOLED screen.
I am generally pretty happy with my vibrant. Other than the minor GPS issues, non functioning compass, iPhoney design and plasticy feel.
It's beauty is skin deep and I really do love it.
The G2 having HSPA+ is nice and all but i get 3-5 down and 1-2 up in NYC that's faster than my home DSL.
If the G2 does have a keyboard like rumored that will turn me off as I perfer swype over any physical keyboard any more.
The one thing that is completely enticing me towards the G2 is the stock google experience.
So it is really up to you. I am interested to see how the G2 is going to turn out.
If it's a successor to the G1, then I don't want it. I don't like the bulkiness of qwerty phones and the big bulge they make in my pocket. I'm happy with the Vibrant and it will last me couple of years.
The G2 looks really good, up until you get to the part of the processor. It's rumored to have a "budget-friendly" Snapdragon variant, and no one is sure if it's running at 800 Mhz or 1 Ghz. Even if it's the full Snapdragon that's in other devices, the Snapdragon is a dated processor compared to the Hummingbird.
Now whatever HSPA+ phone is coming out in December with the dual core 1.2 or 1.5 Qualcomm, that should be interesting. But then again, you would be trading away for what is likely an inferior display to the SAMOLED. Choices, choices.
Vibrant is still a "higher" end device. So the Vibrant wins IMO.
I'll wait until the specs are announced to make that decision. I'm sure I'd have no problem selling this phone if I end up wanting to.
I don't like having physical keyboards which is what the g2 sounds like..also if it has sense if probably stay away
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HSPA+ is pointless unless your tethering a ton of devices (by ton I mean like 5). And constant tethering becomes pointless due to Tmobiles 10gig cap.
I would rather have the Hummingbird!! Homerun battle and Heavygunner are some of the better games I've ever played on a handheld. GO GPU!!!
I'm pretty satisfied with the vibrant, although i wish the feel/weight/build quality was better like htc phones. The G2 won't have better hardware than the vibrant, but if you want better download speeds and keyboard then its justified. I say if you are gonna wait, wait for Desire HD or Glacier, if they are coming to t mobile.
I liked my vibrant but returned it due to the GPS and compass issues. If both are totally fixed by November, I'll buy the vibrant again. If not, I'll wait until the MTHD and see how that is.
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Rather have power...I also like the thin light package..My HD2 feels like a tanK.
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Vibrant to G2?

i have the vibrant and its rooted and i use it as my daily internet tether, its fast and i donwload stuff,but i have been getting a feeling to trade it for a tmobile G2, should i guys, what do you guys think?
One, good luck, as the G2 is way more in demand than a Vibrant (from gleaning the Marketplace),
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I have owned both. I prefer the vibrant. Going from a vibrant, the G2 screen looks abit washed out. Keyboard is nice though.
witeboy07 said:
i have the vibrant and its rooted and i use it as my daily internet tether, its fast and i donwload stuff,but i have been getting a feeling to trade it for a tmobile G2, should i guys, what do you guys think?
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If a heavier feel, smaller non SAMOLED screen, higher benchmark scores, physical keyboard (and possible not so reliable hinges that come with it) are the thing for you, go ahead.
At least CM is very proficient with HTC devices, so you will get one of the best customized ROM's for your device instantaneous given you don't brick it while perma-rooting it.
As far as I can see, real life performance these two are comparable, Sammy gets an icing on the cake thanks to awesome screen though.
EDIT: And as far as the hspa+ capabilities of the phone, if you get the service in the area you are in and you think it is worth it, then all I can say your 5GB/mo limit will deplete faster and you will be throttle to EDGE anyway.
My question is,4g will get better later in time right, because on my vibrant I always get good speeds of 7.9 mbps tops
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Fuskand said:
I have owned both. I prefer the vibrant. Going from a vibrant, the G2 screen looks abit washed out.
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Same exact reason I returned MT4G and went back to Vibrant. Once you SAMOLED, you just can't go back .
@OP: If you are hitting 7 Mbps on your Vibrant, that means the connection in your area is very good (and probably with very little traffic congestion). Since you are maxing out on your Vibrant, I am going to go out on a limb and say 4G phones (G2/MT4G) will give you better than 7 Mbps. Not that you need it...
I have a tmobile even more plan so everything is unlimited, the limit doesn't affect me
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witeboy07 said:
I have a tmobile even more plan so everything is unlimited, the limit doesn't affect me
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Check your account usage online, and get down to earth.
I just checked it, unlimited android web, usage 0%, downloads big files
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I got to test the G2 out because one of my mates have one and I will admit the G2 seems to be more responsive, but I missed the Vibrant screen and I think I am one of the few people who actually likes and enjoys the Touchwiz UI.
I stopped by the newest tmobile store last week and tried out the hd7, mytouch 4g and g2 along with my vibrant. The hd7 did impress me(though I hear negative long term reviews), the mytouch was responsive and I liked it, but the "mysense" UI seems a little cheesy. The g2 I tried out definitely was not lag free. Quicker than the stock vibrant, but there was noticeable lag going through menus and apps... more so than the mytouch.
If it weren't for the aesthetics and keyboard, I'd get the g2. I think it looks outdated, and have no need for a physical keyboard bulking up my phone. I am envious of the processor, but my modified vibrant runs how I'd hope any high end phone to run. Stock for stock - g2.
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Only you can answer this question. Personally, I would not take the screen downgrade. Ever. No way. I find the SAMOLED to be hands down the most attractive display on any mobile device right now. The only thing that even comes close is the IPS panel in the iPhone 4, but side by side the SAMOLED is faster and has a more accurate color gamut including true blacks.
If you're going to trade the Vibrant for anything, at least wait for Nexus S or Galaxy S2.
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My question is,4g will get better later in time right, because on my vibrant I always get good speeds of 7.9 mbps tops
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Lol your vibrant is getting 7.9mbps? When hsdpa max is only 7.2mbps? Wow you got a special phone you really should keep it
The Vibrant's got an awesome screen and is much lighter. But the G2 is noticeably faster. And I'm not talking about the internet speeds. There is no lag in anything it does. The Vibrant with all the lag fixes is still slower. It's ironic inspite of the supposedly better hardware. The reason I returned the G2 was because of the crap HTC and T-Mobile pulled with the non-permanent root.
But seeing the way the Froyo update is going on the Vibrant and Cynanogen's mod is progressing and the fact that a working permanent root is now possible with the G2, I think it's only a matter of time that I trade in my Vibrant for the G2. From now on, I'm going to stick with HTC. Samsung's simply not doing itself any favors by dragging its feet with new OS releases. I thought that it would be different with a world wide release of the Samsung Galaxy S, but I was wrong. By the time we get 2.2, 2.3 will be out. With HTC and Cynanogen's mods, I'd get upgraded much faster.
i say 7.9 mbps because i was downloading through tether and i use speedtest and it showed 7.9mbps tops. im not lying, but i might just keep it becasue of the screen and the lag free roms out there.thanks for your help guys
Fuskand said:
One, good luck, as the G2 is way more in demand than a Vibrant (from gleaning the Marketplace),
and Two;
I have owned both. I prefer the vibrant. Going from a vibrant, the G2 screen looks abit washed out. Keyboard is nice though.
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This is the same thing with me.
got the G2
and Missed My Vibrant
The Vibrant has a better quality Camera.
The Vibrant has a dedicated DSP(music sounds better)
The Vibrant has TV-Out.
The Vibrant Screen Glass is smoother and nicer.
The Vibrant as 4" screen(anything smaller feels tiny)
The Vibrant has a good speaker.
The G2 has a ****ty speaker(It's really tinny)
The G2 hinge felt cheap.
PSX4Droid runs slower on the G2.
Snesoid was more fun on the G2(The Keyboard)
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My question is,4g will get better later in time right, because on my vibrant I always get good speeds of 7.9 mbps tops
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Vibrant 3G speeds in an HSPA+ market are impressive (especially for a 3G phone), but I don't even think it's possible to get speeds that high on a Vibrant...
the highest I consistently get with speedtest.net app is 6.5M
witeboy07 said:
i say 7.9 mbps because i was downloading through tether and i use speedtest and it showed 7.9mbps tops. im not lying, but i might just keep it becasue of the screen and the lag free roms out there.thanks for your help guys
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7.2 is the highest you'll download on the phone, or tether from a computer through the phone. This is what you sound like:
"I tethered my netbook to a computer with a dial-up modem (via Internet Connection Sharing) and was downloading files at 3mbps... It was awesome!"
Speedstests are widely known to be often inaccurate.
Even HSPA+ handsets are having trouble achieving those speeds on T-Mobile's network, as well as WiMAX handsets for Sprint (average speeds being ~5-6mbps).
That's part of the reason why HSPA+ isn't much of a selling point. The only real advantage of it is better ping (which may matter for some applications notably VoIP and Video Chat applications) and better upload speeds (ditto).
I have used both, and my friend and I have discussed, studied, compared my vibrant and his G2. The Facts are this
Screen: Vibrant has better color,bigger,etc. G2 has a great screen, but SAMOled wins
Proc: G2 wins this easily (wont go into specifics, but its far better then the vibrants)
GPU: I Theory vibrant wins, in use I peg them equal since I dont see lag with either.
Storage: Vibrant wins there of course XD but G2 can have 32gb sd card, which is more then enough
Data Speeds: G2 of course
All other areas are really the same, you can get really picky and point out the 2-channel ram bus on the vibrant, the OC ability of the G2, etc. But in the end of the day, they're both are absolute top of the line. If you like your vibrant, keep it, if you really want the G2 go for it, you wont be disappointed. The choice is all in what you want, nobody can tell you what you want......except maybe Steve Jobs....he seems good at that XD lol
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This is the same thing with me.
got the G2
and Missed My Vibrant
The Vibrant has a better quality Camera.
The Vibrant has a dedicated DSP(music sounds better)
The Vibrant has TV-Out.
The Vibrant Screen Glass is smoother and nicer.
The Vibrant as 4" screen(anything smaller feels tiny)
The Vibrant has a good speaker.
The G2 has a ****ty speaker(It's really tinny)
The G2 hinge felt cheap.
PSX4Droid runs slower on the G2.
Snesoid was more fun on the G2(The Keyboard)
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I just wanted to say one thing about this, since its your opinion and you welcome to it, but I do believe the G2 has a dedicated DSP also. The G2 from what I remember has a dedicated 5.1channel audio processor, which also is part what i believe to be the reason for its amazing noise canceling ability =) And the G2 speaker really is not that bad (My G1 has a terrible speaker XD) The size difference is also minimal in my opinion, 3.7 vs 4? that .3in, not much really. The G2 I have used has show itself to more then easily keep pace with the vibrant in many aspects, and they trade blows for different things. Its all down to preference and I prefer my vibrant =)

[Q] Should I trade my Vibrant for a G2?

Is there anything I should know before making this trade?
Also, is the G2 easy to flash? Good ROMS available? Anyone else have a G2 that replaced your Vibrant? Are you happier with the G2? ect.
Thanks.
Dougefresh91 said:
Is there anything I should know before making this trade?
Also, is the G2 easy to flash? Good ROMS available? Anyone else have a G2 that replaced your Vibrant? Are you happier with the G2? ect.
Thanks.
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if cyanogen has been 'good' to your opinion in the past, yes. there is a nightly gingerbread which i'm enjoying very much right now.
my g2 gets about a 16 day on a stock battery charge, light usage. heavy usage = 12 hours. no useage = not sure, but better than a day.
sorry, no comment on the vibrant.
I am wary of the person who want's to trade away his G2, because the G2 is obviously better than the vibrant in every single way.
If there is nothing wrong with his G2, fuking grab up that shiet ASAP.
Dev for G2 is great. There is at least like 4 different ROMS currently available. The community here is great. The G2 has better hardware...
nuff said
Yes trade it the G2 is much better
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HELL YEAH!!
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Can someone explain to me how the g2 is "better than the vibrant in every way"? Sure, the vibrant doesn't have the support the g2 does, but it can be just as quick, has a larger screen, lighter and sleeker.
Stock for stock, the g2 wins of course. Modded, it's personal opinion. I prefer the sleeker phone and don't need a physical keypad. If you need a physical keypad, obviously the g2 beats out just about everything else out there with one.
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okay so i got both these phones and i find that i like the vibrant better. i leave my g2 just sitting at my desk and i barely got it like a week or two ago. yes i did perm root it and it has s off and all that and its running a virtous (correct me if i got the name wrong) sense rom. i like my g2 sometimes but the vibrant right now has more development and the g2 hasnt really had any new roms for like a while now. so i stick to the vibrant becasue mostly everyday theres a new update to a rom or someone finds a cool hack. anyways i think you should stick to the vibrant, personally i like my vibrant more, plus correct me if im wrong but i havent seen a modem thread for the g2 or a dragon kernel or any of the things team whiskey puts together. please g2 fan boys dont hate me, i do love my g2 too (lol) and i actually find it useful sometimes. i just think the vibrant is doing better right now. imho thats what i think. : /
I had both, vibrants got a gorgeous screen, but thats about the only plus. Built quality and hardware are far superior on the G2. You don't need a 1.512 GHz phone, but isn't it nice to know its capable?
Having only slate phones for a year and a half (mt3g, Nexus, Virbant) after selling my G1, I taught would never need a physical keyboard, but after using the G2 for 2 weeks I can't see myself ever typing on the virtual keyboard, even tho I LOVE Swiftkey. Even with the insanely smart predictive UI of Swiftkey I still type much faster on a hardware keyboard.
I Have both a Vibrant and a G2. I love my G2, but I am considering selling my Vibrant. The build quality is much better on the G2. The two main two things I don't like about the Vibrant are the lack of trackpad and the seriously poor quality of the GPS. Also I like having the option of using a physical keyboard and I don't care for the screen, I prefer the higher pixel density of the G2 and the colors of the Vibrant seem a bit off to me. Plus let's not forget that the G2 supports 4G, and the Vibrant does not.
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I Have both a Vibrant and a G2. I love my G2, but I am considering selling my Vibrant. The build quality is much better on the G2. The two main two things I don't like about the Vibrant are the lack of trackpad and the seriously poor quality of the GPS. Also I like having the option of using a physical keyboard and I don't care for the screen, I prefer the higher pixel density of the G2 and the colors of the Vibrant seem a bit off to me. Plus let's not forget that the G2 supports 4G, and the Vibrant does not.
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okay so i got both these phones and i find that i like the vibrant better. i leave my g2 just sitting at my desk and i barely got it like a week or two ago. yes i did perm root it and it has s off and all that and its running a virtous (correct me if i got the name wrong) sense rom. i like my g2 sometimes but the vibrant right now has more development and the g2 hasnt really had any new roms for like a while now. so i stick to the vibrant becasue mostly everyday theres a new update to a rom or someone finds a cool hack. anyways i think you should stick to the vibrant, personally i like my vibrant more, plus correct me if im wrong but i havent seen a modem thread for the g2 or a dragon kernel or any of the things team whiskey puts together. please g2 fan boys dont hate me, i do love my g2 too (lol) and i actually find it useful sometimes. i just think the vibrant is doing better right now. imho thats what i think. : /
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This guy has obviously not try MIUI
Vibrant DOES NOT have more support that the G2
just look at t he G2 section and tell me there no new roms
every rom is CONSTANTLY updated with better support
vibrant only has like 2 good ROMS to try while G2 has 4 or so
each with unique features.
The Vibrant does have a bunch of ROMs available, however none of them have been completely stable for me. I thought with the official 2.2 release that would be fixed, but I'm still dealing with all the same crap.
I went and checked out the G2 in the store yesterday and I definitely like it. I think the screen looks great and can't understand why people bash it.
Dude that's willing to trade said I need to unlock the Vibrant first, which I think I've already managed. I'll definitely be trading.
Also, I noticed theres two G2 forums. Which is for the T-mobile version. Thanks again.
There are two phones called the G2. In the UK, there was a phone called the G2 Touch which was basically a Hero or some crap. The G2 in the USA, its this forum here, the G2 and Desire Z forums.
Ok, thanks for clearing that up.
I cannot think of a smartphone of this caliber with better battery life than the G2. I have had the vibrant and battery life was not as good
Thanks for all the replies, guys.
Thought of another question: what vital accessories did the phone come with? I read 8gig san disk class 2 sd. Wall charger, I assume. Car charger? Dock? Ect. Anything else I should know of? I figure I can test everything but wifi if I meet this dude somewhere random.
I am a proud G2 owner, it's a good phone. When my upgrade came I had the option to pick any of the t-mo phones. It was between the vibrant and the G2, but I got it for it's keyboard really... Also the fact that my previous phone was a G1, so it felt like it was the right phone to follow up on. I enjoy it. It does everything I want it to do and then some.
My girlfriend has a vibrant and it's also a fast phone. I've played games and console emulators on it with no problem. Sometimes her phone can be sluggish but she is stock and not rooted so I can't really say that it's the hardware. Only thing I dislike about it is the on-screen keyboard and 3G only data speeds.
If the G2 hadn't existed, I would probably be using a Vibrant. Really though it boils down to what you want in a device and there's a lot of choices out there. I mean why even ask us? Android was created to give you a choice. If you want limited options, go buy an iPhone hahaha.
(Side Note, There's a lot of douche bag's in these G2/Dz forums. Just check out the flame/actual support ratio in Q&A threads)
I'm another that has both. My wife is using my Vibrant right now me opting for either my G2 with Virtuous or my HD2 running Gingerbread. I really like the form factor of the Vibrant and the bigger screen. It's super thin and light and disappears in your pocket. The G2 on the other hand is much much heavier and makes a noticeable bulge in your pocket. Vibrant has a better screen that works better in sunlight. The thing I didn't like about the vibrant was how sluggish it felt in comparison to the G2. Both got me through a day with normal use though I might give a slight edge to the G2 in battery life. I never had a problem with the build quality of the vibrant. IMHO both are good phones. I went with the G2 because I just think it runs better in day to day use. But the weight and form factor have me seriously considering going back to the Vibrant. Honestly I like my HD2 better than either after all this time it's still my favorite piece of phone hardware I've ever used. I just wished it ran Android as good at the G2.
I've owned both, and can list the advantages of each.
Vibrant:
SAMOLED screen looks better
Larger screen (larger phone, too - maybe an issue)
Better sound
More internal storage (with limits - partition doesn't necessarily give more internal app storage since most is partitioned like SD storage)
G2:
Better, more durable build
Both trackpad and speaker grill LED notifications (Vibrant has none)
Functional GPS (huge deal for me)
Both vendor and community supported android development (much better than Vibrant)
Trackpad
Keyboard
Most everything else was the same, but I far prefer my G2 over the Vibrant, with no reservations at all. It's been a stellar performer and the community support is over the top, and the fact that it's Cyanogen's current fave doesn't hurt. I'm also assuming you're rooting both phones, since you're posting here.
I just made the switch last Friday. Vibrant on Bionix V vs G2 on CM6.1.1
The only thing the Vibrant has on the G2 is the screen. I absolutely love the Vibrant's screen.
IMO, you wont see GB on the Galaxy S line for awhile. Why? Galaxy uses RFS natively for its file system. And you can't say that because the Nexus S is on GB, it'll be easy to port to the Galaxy S line.
And lastly, the number one reason I made the switch was because the G2 will see better/faster GB support than the Vibrant. I don't want a phone that is orphaned as fast as the Vibrant has. Shoot, they have the Vibrant 4g now.
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I've owned both, and can list the advantages of each.
Vibrant:
SAMOLED screen looks better
Larger screen (larger phone, too - maybe an issue)
Better sound
More internal storage (with limits - partition doesn't necessarily give more internal app storage since most is partitioned like SD storage)
G2:
Better, more durable build
Both trackpad and speaker grill LED notifications (Vibrant has none)
Functional GPS (huge deal for me)
Both vendor and community supported android development (much better than Vibrant)
Trackpad
Keyboard
Most everything else was the same, but I far prefer my G2 over the Vibrant, with no reservations at all. It's been a stellar performer and the community support is over the top, and the fact that it's Cyanogen's current fave doesn't hurt. I'm also assuming you're rooting both phones, since you're posting here.
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Don't forget that there is no CM support for the Vibrant right now.

Guy wanst my Captivate for his Desire Z...should I do it?

I posted the same on the Captivate forum but would like some input from you guys...
My Captivate locked to Rogers and running Official 2.2 for his Desire Z Unlocked running Official 2.2
Both phones are like new and perfect, though mine comes with the original box.
I don't have a clue about the Desire Z, is it more powerful than the Captivate? How about the Slider mechanic...will it become loose?
Please share some insight on this, I really like the look of the Desire Z.
If a hardware keyboard doesn't greatly excite you, stick with your galaxy s. It's slightly more powerful and has a nicer screen. Desire z has a much higher build quality, but if you don't love it you'll probably regret it.
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If a hardware keyboard doesn't greatly excite you, stick with your galaxy s. It's slightly more powerful and has a nicer screen. Desire z has a much higher build quality, but if you don't love it you'll probably regret it.
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Cool thanks man. Like I said I just had no clue about the Desire Z. But after looking into HTC devices I think my next phone will have to be one, build quality seems to be unmatched.
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If a hardware keyboard doesn't greatly excite you, stick with your galaxy s. It's slightly more powerful and has a nicer screen. Desire z has a much higher build quality, but if you don't love it you'll probably regret it.
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I would do it in a heartbeat. My friend got his Galaxy S right around the same time I got my Desire Z. Comparing the two, the only thing I would say the Galaxy S has over the DZ is the screen.
DZ is made of metal/aluminum materials versus plastic with the Galaxy. The plastic makes it MUCH lighter but also makes it feel cheap.
As far as power, I would say that the DZ is as powerful, if not more powerful than the Galaxy. Running at stock 800mhz they are about the same. When I OC my phone to 1.2 or 1.5, it runs circles around his.
For me, the keyboard is a must have, and the DZ has one of the best keyboards I have ever used. The Z hinge that everyone complains about, allows for plenty of clearance between the top row of keys and the bottom of the screen, which has been a problem in the past with other slider style phones.
Just my 2 cents.
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I would do it in a heartbeat. My friend got his Galaxy S right around the same time I got my Desire Z. Comparing the two, the only thing I would say the Galaxy S has over the DZ is the screen.
DZ is made of metal/aluminum materials versus plastic with the Galaxy. The plastic makes it MUCH lighter but also makes it feel cheap.
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I know what you are saying but this is the Captivate Galaxy S, the back is Metal. The plastic backing is the other Galaxy S devices...
But yeah I like the design of the HTC, looks nice. I will have to think about this a bit.
Does the Desire Z have Gorilla Glass like the Captivate?
well hold the phone man the fact that the desire z in unlocked is a plus, if your interested in the value of the phone, keep that in mind
yeah I would do it without hesitation. The Desire Z gets better dev support, better manufacturer support, better looks, dedicated camera button and hardware keyboard, it's just an all-around better device.
Buddy the g2 is much better device both hardware and software wise. For anyone saying you should get the captivate please explain to me why? The phone has an outdated slower processor, horrible build quality and its samsung...the worst customer support phone company besides motorola. Seriously the g2 is an amazing device why would you want to go backwards?
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Geez guys, I know we all love our G2s but I disagree. Don't get me wrong, I chose the g2 over the vibrant and don't regret it for a second. I'm going under the assumption that he loves his captivate and was just intrigued by the desire z.
This is all a matter of personal preference. I personally like the htc made sexiness that is the g2, but going on guts alone I think galaxy s still holds slight advantage. Slight. And its samoled screen.
I concur on the avoid samsung rhetoric, just make sure you buy htc next time lol.
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had an epic 4g.. keyword had. my g2 is much nicer, is faster, has little things like.. an led notification (the epic has this but the captivate doesnt), better support.
to this day i still have yet to see a shred of evidence that the galaxy s lineup has gorilla glass... but if you are asking if its as scratch resisent then yes indeed it is
So I ended up keeping the Captivate. I think looking at the 2 in a store brand new, I would go for a Desire Z but the phone was still technically used and I have no idea about the history behind the phone.
I do like the Captivate, but the Desire Z just looks so much better. The only thing I was conserned with was the Sliding mechanic...oh well.
I will buy a HTC next time I get a phone though, the build quality looks amazing and HTC looks like they actually support the device lol
I wish the Desire Z would have been new in box...instant trade. Damn it...now I can't stop thing about this damn phone! Again I just don't know is anything was wrong with it, could have been dropped...or repaired by a 3rd party...who knows.
And I BABY my phones, so knowing mine has always been in a case unless in use I simply could not trade : (
Thanks anyways guys...
Respectable choice op. Believe me the g2 is a wondeful device. I agree with you that buying anything used is always a risk. Although the g2 has great build quality, your right in that you don't know what the original owner might have done to his phone. Have fun with your next htc purchase though. Believe me you won't be dissappointed!
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I've got my G2 and my wife's Vibrant *Same Galaxy S* that I always work with and overall I way prefer my G2... except the Vibrant's screen lol
The G2 feels like a BMW where as the Vibrant feel's like a Hundai
The Vibrant is pretty good with the Voodoo Lag Fix, made it a good bit snappier, but my G2 seems to handle things a little better overall.
The G2 is a lot better on benchmark results, but the Vibrant is a GPU monster. Here is a video I took the other night of comparing the Nenamark scores
Stock G2 -vs- Vibrant
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0chEXB_T3Do
Overclocked 1.5ghz G2 -vs- Vibrant
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5KqKBsqjmA
theratdude64 said:
I've got my G2 and my wife's Vibrant *Same Galaxy S* that I always work with and overall I way prefer my G2... except the Vibrant's screen lol
The G2 feels like a BMW where as the Vibrant feel's like a Hundai
The Vibrant is pretty good with the Voodoo Lag Fix, made it a good bit snappier, but my G2 seems to handle things a little better overall.
The G2 is a lot better on benchmark results, but the Vibrant is a GPU monster. Here is a video I took the other night of comparing the Nenamark scores
Stock G2 -vs- Vibrant
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0chEXB_T3Do
Overclocked 1.5ghz G2 -vs- Vibrant
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5KqKBsqjmA
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adreno 205 is quite powerful but i think adreno 220 will eat SGS gpu..just wait for it when it comes out in dual core htc phones. here is a comparison between DZ adreno and SGS PowerVR SGX540
http://androidandme.com/2010/10/news/3dmarkmobile-gpu-showdown-adreno-205-vs-powervr-sgx540/
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adreno 205 is quite powerful but i think adreno 220 will eat SGS gpu..just wait for it when it comes out in dual core htc phones. here is a comparison between DZ adreno and SGS PowerVR SGX540
http://androidandme.com/2010/10/news/3dmarkmobile-gpu-showdown-adreno-205-vs-powervr-sgx540/
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That matchup in the link is not really fair. As much as I love my G2 it would get destroyed in a matchup against a SGS phone with similar roms, say both on Froyo. Just look at the Nexus S its scoring 3500+ in quadrant at 1.4ghz with gingerbread, our G2 with say CM7 is scoring just 2500ish at 1.5ghz. The PowerVR sgx540 is just a beast. I don't think the adreno 220 is gonna be better than the next gen sgs gpu unfortunately.
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I know i am a little late here since you made the choice already for now.. but maybe keep this in mind for the future...
I have an sgs Vibrant and my wife has a G2. I have both of them modded with the newest roms and mods.. Even though the g2 puts up a bit higher benchmarks the Vibrant (sgs) defiantly out preforms it. When playing games or even browsing the web with flash enabled, the vibrant seems much smoother... However this could simply come down to preference.. since the 2 phones are in-fact very similar in specs, but the hummingbird in the sgs is a better model in my eyes..
As far as the build quality goes to be honest just because it is made from plastic and much liter doesn't mean it is of lesser quality.... In-fact it feels much more solid than the G2 if you ignore the weight difference, not to mention the G2 feels heavy in my pocket now. i could never go to such a heavy phone ever again..
Lots of people have this crazy thought that Samsung doest support their devices but HTC as well as Motorola have just as many devices that have been left behind (not just with android) or taken a while to update (longer than it took for the sgs line to start getting updates)... The vibrant now has an official update to 2.2 and the time it took was about the norm as far as updates go from release date.. 5 or 6 months only not really that bad..
I did a quadrant advanced benchmark on the Vibrant and I've apparently gotten it to the top of the list too... I'm amazed how large the IO is on it. But processor was a very small part of the bar lol

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