[Q] Use the Fascinate in Place of a car stereo? - Fascinate General

Hey guys and girls. Recently someone decided to steal my stereo out of my 96 GMC Sonoma So I have a big hole in my dash and I should be getting my pre-ordered Fascinate tomorrow, as soon as Best Buy gets them in
The question I had was whether or not anyone here has the knowledge or could point me in the right direction to allow me to use my phone in place of my stereo. I was thinking of getting a dash mount and installing it in the dash where the stereo once was and routing the charger underneath as well. What I don't know is anything about the 3.5mm out. I know you can plug a 3.5 mm to RCA to get video out. I read a story today of how QuickPay has come out with a credit card reader that uses the 3.5mm port. I haven't found a good site that gives the specs on the output of the 3.5mm port audio tho.
I have the wiring diagram for my trucks electrical system, tho it doesn't show the impedance of the speakers. I know with my guitar amps and cabinets those specs matters and don't want to fry my phone by connecting it to the speakers with a rigged 3.5mm out to home made harness. I'm assuming there is hardware in the stereo that amplifies the signal to allow it to play on the 6 stocks speakers, but i'm not sure. I'm proficient with a soldering iron and have no problem heading to Radioshack for parts.
I dont know. If its as easy as going from the 3.5mm out to splitting it to the speakers, that would be great and I can do that. If i need to get a small amp and wire it in between the phone and car speakers I can do that too. Any ideas, I'd be more that happy to hear them.
If there is a better forum to pose this question, let me know. Otherwise I appreciate you time for reading such a long post and any feed back you may have.
Thank you.
Rusty

I would say get a cheap radio from wal mart,(that has a line n for ipod or something with 3.5mm) hook it straight n to ur phone, at least that way u wont fry anything on ur pretty new phone. (No pun intended, i played with one yesterday they are gorgeous)
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You could get a four channel amp, nothing more than 50 watts per channel, then go from 3.5 to rca, then get 2 Y RCA cables (female to males) and wire that up, but buying a head unit would be the best thing
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Adapter to use charge and use headset at the same time?

Are there any adapters/gadgets so I can use my wired headset and charge my kaiser using the mini-usb plug at the same time.
I would like to watch my slingbox player using the headset, but I also watch to charge the unit at the same time. Is this possible?
Yeah, there's a Y-cable available. Mobileplanet/Expansys sells it, so does XDA Store. The AT&T 8525 came with the Y adapter, Tilt does not.
Mobileplanet's prices are pretty steep - Around twice that of XDA store even if you don't have an XDA Store member discount. XDA Store doesn't have a good headphone adapter though, just a "brick" one, not a right-angle-short-cable one.
Are there any vendors that carry both the Y-adapter and a "cable" style 3.5mm adapter?
The 8525 one is of poor design. The L-plug that the headphones have interfere with being able to plug in the power...it needs to be shoved in there.
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Checking around yesterday, found the 8525-style Y splitter available under $20, and the HTC 3-in-1 even better approach, with total shipped prices varying, that does mini-usb, 3.5mm audio, and that HTC ExUsb 11 pin mini (so you can hang this adapter off your wired stereo headset with mic and remote controls) and still have stereo on a 3.5mm jacked out to a line in, and charge with the other mini usb jack. Both available yesterday from the HTCStore.

which is best usb splitter for vogue to use BOSE around ear headphones??

Hi guys I want to use BOSE AROUND EAR/NOISE CANCELLING HEADPHONES on my vogue so i want to buy a usb splitter for same.
also some where i heard that using usb splitter decreaseds the sound quality of headphones
the BOSE uses 3.5MM jack
link to bose:http://www.boseindia.com/retail/bose-product-detail.aspx?Prd_Id=17&Cat_Id=647&Nav_Id=647
link to a htc splitter that i think is the best i saw it's also of original htc
link:http://cgi.ebay.com/3.5mm-USB-Adapt...temQQimsxZ20091223?IMSfp=TL091223214003r14433
so please guys help me coz tghe bose headphones are of around 170$ so i dont wanna waste my money
also is the same headphones also compaitable with BLACKBERRY STORM
i will also use the same headphones on blackberry also
thanks guys
hope a quick reply
patelaquib said:
Hi guys I want to use BOSE AROUND EAR/NOISE CANCELLING HEADPHONES on my vogue so i want to buy a usb splitter for same.
also some where i heard that using usb splitter decreaseds the sound quality of headphones
the BOSE uses 3.5MM jack
link to bose:http://www.boseindia.com/retail/bose-product-detail.aspx?Prd_Id=17&Cat_Id=647&Nav_Id=647
link to a htc splitter that i think is the best i saw it's also of original htc
link:http://cgi.ebay.com/3.5mm-USB-Adapt...temQQimsxZ20091223?IMSfp=TL091223214003r14433
so please guys help me coz tghe bose headphones are of around 170$ so i dont wanna waste my money
also is the same headphones also compaitable with BLACKBERRY STORM
i will also use the same headphones on blackberry also
thanks guys
hope a quick reply
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As an audiophile I can't help but giggle a bit, I don't think anything you can buy will really make the vogue sound all that great as the amount of noise to signal produced out of it is way too much - if you are thinking about buying bose headphones I HIGHLY recommend against as well, for $170 a pair of grado labs headphones or high-end sennheiser headphones will sound much much much better and you won't be giving your money to "blowse"
Honestly, your best bet is finding the original splitter that came with the phone and getting the absolute lowest impendence headphones you can - it will produce the absolute best sound you can get out of the phone (it's conditional though, so if you take those very same headphones and put them to another application like a home reciever it'll sound bad there!)
If any of this is confusing, let me know by PM I will gladly help out!
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Thanks for your reply.....
The splitter recevied from supplier doesnot match with bose jack.....so i have to have new splitter for matching bose jack(3.5mm) to enjoy sound....
Company supplied splitter has (1) charger jack & (2) 11 Pin mini USB for original HTC headsets.
So i wish considering above limitations, to enjoy good sound quality, i understood that BOSE is best matched with NOKIA N91......So i have planned to get one for me too provided i am able to fetch original HTC SPLITTER matching with subject BOSE headphones thread.........
Link provided in thread is of orignal HTC Splitter which I think released to use with HTC DIAMOND, Please confirm me that will it work on VOGUE also...if I buy one for me ???????????
lol, i've made my own and it works pretty darn fine. a wire is a wire. i really don't think its going to make a difference. (is pure gold wires really going to make a difference from copper?) but the quality of the magnet and the coils will make a difference no doubt.
but since my creation look ghetto (electric tape ) im planning on buying another.
mikurej95 said:
lol, i've made my own and it works pretty darn fine. a wire is a wire. i really don't think its going to make a difference. (is pure gold wires really going to make a difference from copper?) but the quality of the magnet and the coils will make a difference no doubt.
but since my creation look ghetto (electric tape ) im planning on buying another.
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Difference between gold wires and copper wires do make some difference if you are looking at a very fine noise band.... but for the Vogue... completely agree with you
Only some people can actually hear the difference, but thats are the audio freaks. And the sound quality also depends on the device itself if it has a good amplifier integrated. (this is where ipods usually get criticized and where the zune is praised) Getting a amp will definatly increase the sound quality. what it does is basically what it is called, it amplifies notes to make them clearer and crisper

Attention: To all Shift oweners with Headphone Jack Issues.

Okay,
After researching I found that the Original EVO had a faulty headphone jack issue. So when my Shift would cut out I assumed the jack was to blame. I had the issue on two occasions.
1st time) I found I had lint in the jack, tweezers fixed that issue.
2nd time) Jack was clean, but the actual headphone plug would pop out ever so slightly anytime it was moved gently (i.e the phone shifts in your pocket).
I assumed this was to do with the pins in the headphone jack wearing down\being pushed back and not always returning back and locking with the connector on the headphone. This definitely would be an issue for most Shift users over time (users who use headphones a lot at least.) Now after searching the googlez' I didn't see that many hits on people having issues with their shifts headphone jack, only one or two posts on xda & android central about how "touchy" the jack is (i.e headphone would pop out a TINY bit, it's normal to have this kind of play, my her did as well, with no issues). So instead I looked at my headphones themselves (their connector), gathered 4 pairs and tried them all. 3 of them are pretty pricey, and their connector would pop out of the phone ever so slightly when moved, the 4th pair (cheap ear buds) had no problem whatsoever . So what was the difference? The LENGTH of the gold\silver connector. I lined them up side by side under a light, and lo and behold, the 4th cheap one was slight shorter, and it allowed it to sit snugly and "snap" into the phone, and would not pop out under movement, the other 3 pairs were ever so slightly longer. So my solution? Metal nail file, and take down a little bit of the tip, which lets the plug sit all the way in. Be careful not do damage your connector on your headphones. Or you could just buy another pair and make sure it's not too long (the connector tip). Hope this helps some of you folk out there.
stealthfx said:
Okay,
After researching I found that the Original EVO had a faulty headphone jack issue. So when my Shift would cut out I assumed the jack was to blame. I had the issue on two occasions.
1st time) I found I had lint in the jack, tweezers fixed that issue.
2nd time) Jack was clean, but the actual headphone plug would pop out ever so slightly anytime it was moved gently (i.e the phone shifts in your pocket).
I assumed this was to do with the pins in the headphone jack wearing down\being pushed back and not always returning back and locking with the connector on the headphone. This definitely would be an issue for most Shift users over time (users who use headphones a lot at least.) Now after searching the googlez' I didn't see that many hits on people having issues with their shifts headphone jack, only one or two posts on xda & android central about how "touchy" the jack is (i.e headphone would pop out a TINY bit, it's normal to have this kind of play, my her did as well, with no issues). So instead I looked at my headphones themselves (their connector), gathered 4 pairs and tried them all. 3 of them are pretty pricey, and their connector would pop out of the phone ever so slightly when moved, the 4th pair (cheap ear buds) had no problem whatsoever . So what was the difference? The LENGTH of the gold\silver connector. I lined them up side by side under a light, and lo and behold, the 4th cheap one was slight shorter, and it allowed it to sit snugly and "snap" into the phone, and would not pop out under movement, the other 3 pairs were ever so slightly longer. So my solution? Metal nail file, and take down a little bit of the tip, which lets the plug sit all the way in. Be careful not do damage your connector on your headphones. Or you could just buy another pair and make sure it's not too long (the connector tip). Hope this helps some of you folk out there.
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That makes sense. I was wondering, because I use my headphones almost everyday in and out of my pocket and have never had it be anything but rock solid. And I did pay only $20 for them. Good job on the excellant research!
^ Shift Faced
interesting
I have used two different headphones, one of high quality and one of medium quality and had no problems what so ever.
Has anyone else had this problem?
Never had any headphone problems to speak of, besides the fact that it doesn't work. That's because I'm using a really Alpha ROM, so it's my own fault.
Xodium said:
Never had any headphone problems to speak of, besides the fact that it doesn't work. That's because I'm using a really Alpha ROM, so it's my own fault.
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Useful input
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Neverhad a problem with my $5 headphones... or my monoprice auxiliary cable.
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Im having this same exact issue with my Koss KSC-45 headphones. Havent figured out a solution yet.
Had headphone issues with the blue/black htc branded case that sprint sells and my sony studio monitors, ended up that the opening on the case wasn't large enough and wouldn't allow the headphones to insert fully into the jack. 15 mins with the backside of the case removed and a pocket knife, and back in business.
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Anyone know of specific headphone brands that work?
I need a wire to connect to the Auxillary input on my car, and the one I have must have this problem -- haven't tried filing the tip.
Spot on . Was once in a while having an issue like this. Read your post. Took out all my headphones ( about 8 pairs, don't ask ) and compared them. Low and behold almost all the cheap pairs were shorter. Nice job on a cheap and smart solution to an annoying problem.
Solved my problem!! Thanks.

Modding epic desk dock

Has anyone modified their desktop doc so it can be used to transfer files via the USB connection? I have given up on Samsung making good on the sound output and have opened up the little beastie so I can see what's going on. Headed to electronics shop tomorrow to see about getting a female micro USB connector because I want to ditch the whole circuit board.
Will post some pics of the innards later tonight. Any help or comments are appreciated.
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Theres a fix for audio.... O_0
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Kcarpenter said:
Theres a fix for audio.... O_0
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Well, who needs audio. It is in pieces now and going to wire it up so it will charge in the dock, use USB, work with my case on, and have the LED light on.
Got used to this kind of behaviour with my Treo and miss it.
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Did you ever do this? Also can you post pics of the dock taken apart. I want to mod mine to accept the extended battery.
PICTURES PLEASE!!!
Also, how did you get it open? It seems tricky.
I'll have to pile on too -- any pics, Top Nurse?
Or even just a quick outline in how you opened it (presumably without damaging it). I can't figure it out -- at least, so long as I'm not willing to start prying in seams with a screwdriver.
My interest in this has peaked because of the awesome mod that someone (can't find the thread to thank him!!!!) put together -- SGS_Dock_Audio_Fix.apk -- that makes the audio out on the docks work automatically, like they should... insert the Epic, audio switches to the dock jack. Remove it, audio switches back to the speaker.
However, the audio is absolutely horrible. I mean, unlistenable, for me at least.
I suspect this is an artifact of the electronics in the dock -- I'm assuming it's not a direct analog transfer of the signal over the USB datapins, but rather a more "standard" use of the dock as a USB audio device as per USB spec, and therefore the actual D/A conversion is happening on a board inside the dock.
I want to mess with it and see if a) I'm right, and b) if I can fix it.
Otherwise, despite the (once again) correct fix for this from one of our community members, it's still for the most part unusable, thanks to Samsung.
Geez, this whole debacle with the dock-out audio for the Galaxy line is becoming ridiculously pathetic and incompetent. Unbelievably so.
Did anyone ever have any luck looking into the issues with the dock. When I use the one I have if I have the charger plugged in the audio has static and if I unplug the charger the audio is better but it seems like I'm loosing a lot of the bass. I might try tearing mine apart to get a look this weekend but if you guys have already done some work and there is no way to fix it then I'd not attempt it.
That's a great idea. I'm so frustrated with how much Samsung charged for a dock that doesn't work at all out of the box. I'd also like to see pictures. I'm using mine right now to cover up the power light on my computer, while I play Skyrim. It's the most useful it's been yet; it's a perfect fit, and I can still see the HDD light flash.
I tore mine apart last night, and actually didn't damage it. I'll have some pictures later to show how to take it apart and what it looks like.
I'm pretty green when it comes to electronics but the internal board is very simple and it really looks like the output from the epic's usb has the audio on a couple pins, then power on a pin and then ground on another. I think the issue may be that everything is sharing the same ground, the headphone jack and the charging circuit share a ground which might be causing the static.
Like I said, I'll get some pictures posted and maybe somebody out there will have an idea on how to isolate the two circuits better... if it is even possible.
Very interested in this. I haz 3 x desk docks (one each bedside for my wife and me and one for my desk at work) and a car dock. I was hella pissed when the line out on the car dock didn't work because I was tying it into the car kit. Been thinking of drilling through the dock's slider on the car dock to hack in a 3.5mm jack but if I can hack the board in it instead that will be a lot cleaner.
Ok I got some pictures taken. Some are good some are not so good.
If you follow them somewhat in the numerical order it shows the disassembly, I used a thin knife to pop the back plate off, from there it was removing a few small screws and then the front plate came off. After that it was removing a bracket that held the micro usb connector on the dock and then also removing a couple screws that hold the small PCB to the back plate. From there you can fish out the PCB and usb connector.
I did some tracing of the usb charger pins to the usb dock connector and from the headphone jack to the usb dock connector.
I've done some testing and it sounds like with everyting torn apart and plugging things in with the PCB laying on my desk the static on the audio is gone but it still sounds hollow. Note this test was run with power being supplied from a computer usb instead of using a wall plug.
I'm really intersted in the quality of the sound coming over the dock usb connector. I think I may pickup an additional headphone jack from the shack tomorrow and wire it to the correct pins and ground to see if the PCB is causing any interferance.
I need to get my wall plug out to test for static from it as well. Maybe there is a difference between using the Samsung one and my old HTC charger to which I've plugged in a micro usb cable.
I'm not sure what the purpose of the LED on the dock is but it did turn on for me when I had it plugged into the computer, I don't remember it coming on when I plugged it into the wall plug.
I'll update with more info when I do some more testing.
Another note is that you can see that my PCB's solder joints don't look all that uniform, seems some of them might have been reflowed and the PCB is kinda dirty for something that seems like it was pretty air tight when the case was all snapped together.
Found this good thread with information about how the phone knows that it has been inserted into the dock. Does some explaining as to what some of the resistors on the PCB are for. I'm making the assumption some of the other ones are for the LED that is used on the dock.
http://forums.androidcentral.com/epic-4g-accessories/64959-what-triggers-car-dock-mode.html
Looks like the source of that information was here on XDA...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=980937
Just to follow up on this whole mess...
I finally did a kernel test when upgrading to EL30. Looks like the stock kernel does something to make the audio better (more bass, less tinny). Anybody know why the custom kernels make the audio not so enjoyable?
bmasephol said:
Just to follow up on this whole mess...
I finally did a kernel test when upgrading to EL30. Looks like the stock kernel does something to make the audio better (more bass, less tinny). Anybody know why the custom kernels make the audio not so enjoyable?
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The code I brought into the CM7 ShadowKernel must be just enough to get it functional. I will need to do more research and comparisons with the stock kernel code to see if there is more I can add to improve the sound.
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ok so it doesn't look like there is much going on with that board, doesn't look like it could be a DAC at all. so its sending analog sound through the USB port? strange....would be awesome if we could use the voodoo sound stuff with it.
dzl said:
ok so it doesn't look like there is much going on with that board, doesn't look like it could be a DAC at all. so its sending analog sound through the USB port? strange....would be awesome if we could use the voodoo sound stuff with it.
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bmasephol said:
Just to follow up on this whole mess...
I finally did a kernel test when upgrading to EL30. Looks like the stock kernel does something to make the audio better (more bass, less tinny). Anybody know why the custom kernels make the audio not so enjoyable?
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bmasephol, you sure about that?
One of my E4Gs is on stock EL30. I used a pair of IEM to test this. The sound from the dock is tiny, lacking bass. I compared it side-by-side with another E4G running bbelos' MTD CM7 kernel and they sounded exactly the same. I then plugged the IEM directly to the phone's audio out, and the sound was much better as expected. This all says the USB audio route, as has been said elsewhere and here, doesn't go through the onboard DAC or least much less amplified than the headphone out.
But for me it's not a big deal. In the car, the head unit took care of it (just have to crank it up a bit), and at home, a small T-Amp can do the same.
Bbelos, beside xcaliburinhand's another kernel source, you might want to look at drhonk's CM7 Bali kernel. Roy also has other interesting stuff in some of his Galaxy kernels(like BLN!)
Yes - I may have spoke too soon. I did my tests while my dock was still torn apart. Now at work this morning the dock sounds like **** again...
I'm going to take it home and try again tonight. I swear last night while I was listening to it all torn apart it sounded way better.
I'll update later tonight.
is our phone the only galaxy s that has this problem with audio out through the dock?
I'm going to propose a theory... feel free to shoot it down for those who have more knowledge about this than I do... I'm going back to knowledge I had 15 years ago when I used to work for a company that specialized in digital audio products...
A DAC (digital-to-audio converter) is an actual physical electronic component, which obviously converts a digital stream (1's and 0's) into an analog signal to the output jack. The DAC on the Epic 4g is a Wolfson DAC, pretty decent quality DAC with some nice features that apps like Voodoo Sound can tap in to.
The USB connector on the Epic 4g (which the desk and car docks plug into) is just that - a USB connector, which transfers *digital* information. Audio via USB is (I'm assuming) using some protocol which allows digital audio bits to be transfered over a USB connection. Therefore, the audio coming out of the USB connector is still digital, i.e. *not* being converted to analog inside the phone.
The small circuit board inside the dock has an attached headphone jack, and part of that component including the surrounding circuitry *is in fact a DAC*. In fact, I believe it's a totally crap DAC (compared to the Wolfson DAC used by the Epic's headphone jack). So the docks have their own crap DACs which do the digital-to-analog conversion outside the phone. Therefore, I think it's impossible (or nearly impossible) for a phone app to control the dock DAC (like Voodoo controls the Epic's on-board DAC). Only thing I can think of is to use a music player on the Epic that has a built-in EQ which would affect the sound before it hits the USB output. Either that, or try to replace the DAC on the dock's circuit board, or have a really awesome car stereo which can tweak the sound enough to make it tolerable
If this has already been posted somewhere I apologize, there are a couple threads on this general topic and I haven't kept up with all of them...
Edit: if it's not clear that I'm implying this, another point: I don't think it's possible that the Epic's on-board DAC can possibly affect the audio coming out of the USB connector that the docks use

Le Max 2 X820 USB Audio adapter quality concerns

I've been eyeing the Le Max 2 X820 for a few months now and I think it's a great deal but the implementation of the 3.5mm headphone jack always makes me rethink. For anyone out there who owns this phone, I have two major questions that always cause me to rethink my purchase decision.
1. How snug is the audio adapter? Headphone jacks give a much more snug connection to the device than the USB-C jack in every phone that I have ever used. The fact that I'll be pulling out the USB audio adapter hundreds if not thousands of times in my ownership of the device really makes me worry that it'll become so loose with mechanical stress that it'll eventually just lose all grip and fall out with even the lightest of pulls.
2. I hear people make claims like "the audio quality is out of this world" or "this is the smartphone for audiophiles." Do those claims have any substance? I have a DAC at home for when I want a dedicated music listening experience and I find it hard to believe that a digital signal running through a low voltage power source could perform anywhere near the quality of a dedicated DAC. What exactly does CDLA do? Allow a lossless passthrough of your music to the USB digital signal? Does it serve as a DAC?
Thanks for taking the time to read this.
The USB adapter is very snug on mine - it is actually quite hard to pull it out even when you want to. Sound through the adapter with a good pair of headphones is decent. I have been playing lossless CD rips and they sound great, especially with the Dolby Atmos dsp. CDLA is only a thing if you buy the Leeco earbuds (I have just ordered a pair from Gearbest for about £10 in a flash sale). Basically it just sends the music digitally rather than converting to analogue on board. The earbuds have a 24-bit hifi audio decoder chip embedded in the usb plug.
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The USB adapter is very snug on mine - it is actually quite hard to pull it out even when you want to. Sound through the adapter with a good pair of headphones is decent. I have been playing lossless CD rips and they sound great, especially with the Dolby Atmos dsp. CDLA is only a thing if you buy the Leeco earbuds (I have just ordered a pair from Gearbest for about £10 in a flash sale). Basically it just sends the music digitally rather than converting to analogue on board. The earbuds have a 24-bit hifi audio decoder chip embedded in the usb plug.
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I see.
So the USB adapter doesn't do any processing and just serves as an analogue pass-through and the DSP is built right into the device. So I can expect pretty much the same audio quality as any other phone with a headphone jack unless I use the CDLA certified earbuds.
The standard 3.5mm jack isn't exactly a pricey component. Makes me wonder why it was removed in the first place. It's not like the device's selling point is its slimness.
Thanks for the info. :good:
Yes, as far as I know the adapter is just a pass through and doesn't contain an audio chip. The fact you can buy them for just $1 or $2 online would seem to confirm that.
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The standard 3.5mm jack isn't exactly a pricey component. Makes me wonder why it was removed in the first place.
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Hello. The socked for 3.5 mm jack does not seem to be, but is the component that takes pretty much place inside the phone. I have lately disassembled my previous phone and realized that.
regards Olek
kanagawaben said:
The USB adapter is very snug on mine - it is actually quite hard to pull it out even when you want to. Sound through the adapter with a good pair of headphones is decent. I have been playing lossless CD rips and they sound great, especially with the Dolby Atmos dsp. CDLA is only a thing if you buy the Leeco earbuds (I have just ordered a pair from Gearbest for about £10 in a flash sale). Basically it just sends the music digitally rather than converting to analogue on board. The earbuds have a 24-bit hifi audio decoder chip embedded in the usb plug.
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The thing is, analogue audio signals over the short length of cable on headphones are already basically 'lossless' so CLDA doesn't really have any benefit apart from the fact the DAC is external from the device so the headphone manufacturer may implement a better one than LeEco would have otherwise. That's it.
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The thing is, analogue audio signals over the short length of cable on headphones are already basically 'lossless' so CLDA doesn't really have any benefit apart from the fact the DAC is external from the device so the headphone manufacturer may implement a better one than LeEco would have otherwise. That's it.
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I agree. Losing the headphone jack is retarded. They could have just put the 24-bit chip from the earbuds in the phone and had a normal 3.5mm jack (it's not like the phone is very thin or waterproof). I would never have got a phone without it by choice, but for me it was a compromise I was prepared to put up with to get a high spec phone at a low price.
Regarding the adapter, mine is already starting to suffer from cable failure at the point where the cable joins the USB jack. Luckily they are very cheap to replace - I just ordered a 10 pack (not LeEco ones) from AliExpress for just $7.
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I agree. Losing the headphone jack is retarded. They could have just put the 24-bit chip from the earbuds in the phone and had a normal 3.5mm jack (it's not like the phone is very thin or waterproof). I would never have got a phone without it by choice, but for me it was a compromise I was prepared to put up with to get a high spec phone at a low price.
Regarding the adapter, mine is already starting to suffer from cable failure at the point where the cable joins the USB jack. Luckily they are very cheap to replace - I just ordered a 10 pack (not LeEco ones) from AliExpress for just $7.
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For the price I can put up with the adapter that's for sure. Hopefully we see some nice 3rd party ones with better DACs in them.
Do the iPhone 7 users complain about the same problem? I personally don't care as long as the USB-C to 3.5 mm adapter works.
I think the rationale to lose the headphone jack is untenable on all levels. Not having the option to listen to music through your headphones while having your device plugged into wall power is something I won't ever understand. We're not at a point where most consumers own Bluetooth headsets yet and wireless charging is still limited to trickle power.
I don't know about iPhone users but maybe they just have a higher tolerance to retardation?
I lost the one which came with my phone, so I ordered some of the cheap replacements. I haven't been impressed so far. I'd happily pay more for one which had a high quality Wolfson or similar DAC but I haven't been able to find one.
I bought cheap USB C dongle and the sound was absolutely awful, which makes me think I may have been mistaken in thinking the LeEco adapter (which has very good sound) is just a pass-through. Maybe it does have some kind of DAC and amp in it.
Hi,
I read an Italian review that complained about the incompatibility of different otg adapters with the phone.
Can the same be said for the 3.5mm adapters? Any experiences on that?
Thank you
When i bought the phone i also bought 3 extra adapters incase I lose one or need to use different earbuds. They all sound the same because its only passthrough. But the ones I bought extra are much better quality.
MerlijnD said:
When i bought the phone i also bought 3 extra adapters incase I lose one or need to use different earbuds. They all sound the same because its only passthrough. But the ones I bought extra are much better quality.
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Exact opposite of my experience. The original LeEco adapter and another LeEco one I bought were both great. Non-LeEco ones I bought sound terrible. Like, really unusably awful.
I bought some cheap, generic USB-C to 3.5mm and the audio quality was very strange in a bad way. They all sound bad. I've been using a small Bluetooth receiver for a few months now and it works great, but I'd still rather plug into phone.
If you want a high quality DAC solution, the Creative E3 would be good. I'm using some 'Vital' adapter I got on Amazon for £10. Pretty good for the price
Anyone know where we can buy an official adapter?
jaw2floor said:
I bought some cheap, generic USB-C to 3.5mm and the audio quality was very strange in a bad way. They all sound bad. I've been using a small Bluetooth receiver for a few months now and it works great, but I'd still rather plug into phone.
If you want a high quality DAC solution, the Creative E3 would be good. I'm using some 'Vital' adapter I got on Amazon for £10. Pretty good for the price
Anyone know where we can buy an official adapter?
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AliExpress. The same one as the one the phone comes with costs about $3
i would say the sound is okay with the one came with the phone, nothing more nothing less. Also there r enough cheap and good bluetooth earbuds!
I wonder if it's theoretically possible to use the DAC from the original earbuds to make a universal adapter for any 3.5 earbuds? Like just cut the wire and connect it to the 3.5-jack Mother. Because I'm having hybrid multi-driver earbuds with 3.5 and don't want any other for now.
Does anyone know what exactly DAC is used in LeEco earbuds?
The LeEco CDLA earbuds sound pretty good, but they have the same problems (but magnified) as the apple buds they clearly mimic in appearance - damn things refuse to stay in your ears, and the cables are really weak and flimsy. I haven't used mine all that much but they are already starting​ to fall to bits

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