Following on from THIS thread which raises a valid point imo...
The Galaxy Spica (also known as the i5700) has been blessed with multitouch support in some homebrew drivers that are making their way into homebrew kernels for homebrew ROMs, despite the official line that said phone doesn't support more than one finger at a time. Really drives home the point that "support" can refer both to the hardware's capability and the manufacturer's willingness to maximize it, doesn't it?
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-mobile.engadget.com
...MT may just be possible after all.
It means nothing.
IBTL.
Candy[MAN] said:
It means nothing.
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Or could mean it is possible, but will take a developer to realise it.
thought hardware cant support more than 1 finger at a time so regardless of what devs can come up with, its not gonna work??
or has someone identified what panel the x10 is using and im talking nonsense?
wing_zero8556 said:
thought hardware cant support more than 1 finger at a time so regardless of what devs can come up with, its not gonna work??
or has someone identified what panel the x10 is using and im talking nonsense?
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To my knowledge no one has discovered what model the touch panel is. Right now the official word from SE is that the hardware doesn't support it.
wing_zero8556 said:
thought hardware cant support more than 1 finger at a time so regardless of what devs can come up with, its not gonna work??
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Who knows now, but this news opens up to the possibility that it just might work...
despite the official line that said phone doesn't support more than one finger at a time.
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As far as i am concerned, i dont really care if we get MT or not. But i dont see why SE would release their top end android phone without putting a MT capable digitizer on it, whether they enable MT or not. Maybe they know it is capable but never enabled it because of copyright issues with crapple.
This is just another pointless thread, When we crack the boot loader and can put on Custom Roms we will find out if its a yes or a no, till then we can all debade the meanings of life and all the other types to topics that are there to waste time.
Chewitt said:
This is just another pointless thread
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It might be, in your opinion, the point of the thread is to highlight that another handset of which it's maker said MT wasn't available now actually is thanks to a developer, so there just might be a possibility that other handsets sold with no MT support might not necessarily be because of a hardware issue.
ddewbofh said:
To my knowledge no one has discovered what model the touch panel is. Right now the official word from SE is that the hardware doesn't support it.
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they have to say something, if it supports, SE wont launch drivers for it so soon... Without know the model of the panel, no way to know.
tigger69 said:
As far as i am concerned, i dont really care if we get MT or not. But i dont see why SE would release their top end android phone without putting a MT capable digitizer on it, whether they enable MT or not. Maybe they know it is capable but never enabled it because of copyright issues with crapple.
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I just love how you refer to it everytime without fail, as crapple.
I think the best way is asking a SE dev if x10 supports MT
Maybe SE will enable it on 2.1 if the hardware supports it....
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Im closing this because it could have easily been put into the other multitouch debate threads
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Will the EVO 4G hardware be close enough to the HD2 for it to help the Android on HTC project to put Android on the HD2? Any thoughts?
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Will the EVO 4G hardware be close enough to the HD2 for it to help the Android on HTC project to put Android on the HD2? Any thoughts?
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Most likely.... If the interest is their, someone will build it.
ahh yes.
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Will the EVO 4G hardware be close enough to the HD2 for it to help the Android on HTC project to put Android on the HD2? Any thoughts?
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indeed thats the question we are all waiting for the answer to..
lets hope it helps..
An interesting concept, there are those that are asking if Windows Phone7 is going to work with the HTC HD2 as well. Be nice if we could choose either. The HD2 is a lovely piece of kit.
when is the evo actually out? nobody got a whiff of a leaked rom?
got an hd2 myself, would love to get android
work it will not
incompatible the drivers will be
hmmm... porting winmo gsm radio driver to android, much trouble it will be.
impossible it is not, but long journey I see for you.
johnsongrantr said:
work it will not
incompatible the drivers will be
hmmm... porting winmo gsm radio driver to android, much trouble it will be.
impossible it is not, but long journey I see for you.
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yes, yoda.
johnsongrantr said:
work it will not
incompatible the drivers will be
hmmm... porting winmo gsm radio driver to android, much trouble it will be.
impossible it is not, but long journey I see for you.
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Suddenly I can hear Yodas voice as I am reading this........
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Suddenly I can hear Yodas voice as I am reading this........
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Joke you did get, much funny it was.
Complete my goal is
May the force be with you
I'm not so sure about this....
With the Evo not coming to UK waters and no other screen size planned this side of the pond the ROM on the HD2 may well be the only answer.
However, lets not forget.. the Evo has a lot inside which will be different to the HD2 and these short comings won't make the HD2 an Evo in disguise.
It may end up being a sheep in wolf's clothing.
I don't think you'll see it because of driver issues but if enough people want it anything is possible.
Aridon said:
I don't think you'll see it because of driver issues but if enough people want it anything is possible.
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More like, if the right person wants it.
same processor ... different board... no go
need hlevel eprom acess ... not posible software wise
Heres my 2 cents. If they already managed to port android for iphone then hell yeah its gonna happen. who would have thought that the iphone was gonna get android.
Lobo Lansky said:
Heres my 2 cents. If they already managed to port android for iphone then hell yeah its gonna happen. who would have thought that the iphone was gonna get android.
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they dont have android on the iphone it is a theme
blazing4phoenix said:
they dont have android on the iphone it is a theme
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No its android dualbooted
http://www.neverknowtech.com/home/2010/4/25/how-to-put-android-on-your-iphone-with-video.html
XAnimal said:
No its android dualbooted
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Not to mention that the iPhone doesn't support themes.
Scott Spillers said:
Not to mention that the iPhone doesn't support themes.
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Tell that to Winterboard and AndroidLock. But yes, theming isn't supported natively.
However the iPhone port of Android is an actual native port, loaded using OpeniBoot, a custom "iBoot"-style bootloader. And you thought the HTCSPL system was tricky...
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work it will not
incompatible the drivers will be
hmmm... porting winmo gsm radio driver to android, much trouble it will be.
impossible it is not, but long journey I see for you.
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Belated, but May the Fourth be with you.
I find it quite unlikely. Developers are still trying to get Android EMULATED, not installed, on the Touch Pro, and that version still suffers from poor battery life and frequent errors.
You can't just drag and drop ROMS from completely different operating systems onto different phones; otherwise, all phones would be sold without an OS installed.
The two phones may be similar in regards to features, but the insides are completely different. For example, the Evo has a maXTouch sensor, while the HD2 does not. So, while you may be able to get Android emulated on the HD2, it doesn't look like it's going to be very possible to transform it into an Evo by giving it the latter's ROM.
Mecha2142 said:
I find it quite unlikely. Developers are still trying to get Android EMULATED, not installed, on the Touch Pro, and that version still suffers from poor battery life and frequent errors.
You can't just drag and drop ROMS from completely different operating systems onto different phones; otherwise, all phones would be sold without an OS installed.
The two phones may be similar in regards to features, but the insides are completely different. For example, the Evo has a maXTouch sensor, while the HD2 does not. So, while you may be able to get Android emulated on the HD2, it doesn't look like it's going to be very possible to transform it into an Evo by giving it the latter's ROM.
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Since i've got android on my Sprint Vogue, i'd say it's possible if the right people want it to happen.
I dont know if this has been covered yet but i thought you guys would be interested in this information
www youtube com /watch?v=2z-9XgbehQ4
the video shows an X10 running android 2.1, its not clear as to wether its rooted or not but its definately running it
(cant post links, so u have to edit the link before pasting it into your browser )
Pretty nifty! Took forever to boot, hey? Besides the boot logo the fw didnt look SE whored out. Perhaps it is root? Or maybe an early se build?
This video was posted today in youtube.lets hope the guy tell us how he did it
that's a crappy video, hard to see. must have been taken with a crappy phone lol
I must get in touch with that guy to ask him about multitouch capabilities. If this is the official clean 2.1 we can get the final response (the only limit, in this case, could be the bootloader but I don't think so).
the first logo looks like an Arrow sign , may be downloading something to the phone or something else that is why it took that long
Alleniv said:
I must get in touch with that guy to ask him about multitouch capabilities. If this is the official clean 2.1 we can get the final response (the only limit, in this case, could be the bootloader but I don't think so).
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SE as stated several times that the screen is not hardwarewise capable of MT.
yeah great no multitouch we get it, does anyone have ANY idea how this was done?
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SE as stated several times that the screen is not hardwarewise capable of MT.
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And Synaptics has stated several times to me <<just wait and see>>. I believe in multitouch, IMHO it's only a patent problem
For the record Synaptics managed to soft enable multi touch gestures on there standard trackpad panels, its more than possible to enable it with a little bit of fancy work (eg registering each touch seperatly at high speed and then relaying it as a single multi touch gesture to the OS). Multitouch is what everyone is obsessing over today then eh? weather its possible or not is no one else at all at interested in who even did this let alone how?! Peace and love.
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that's a crappy video, hard to see. must have been taken with a crappy phone lol
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ya .. except the boot logo .. cant seem to see anythng else ..
it can also be some emulator+remote desktop video, as it was with htc hd2 running wp7. i am staying calm in this case, no additional info, nothing written there.. even the video quality. from my point of view it is not real.
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ya .. except the boot logo .. cant seem to see anythng else ..
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except the fact that its a stock android build and theres no SE UXP stuff?
charlie42 said:
it can also be some emulator+remote desktop video, as it was with htc hd2 running wp7. i am staying calm in this case, no additional info, nothing written there.. even the video quality. from my point of view it is not real.
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10chars.
If its fake i say we get a hold of his email and email him in bulk stating how much of a **** he is, i however dont think its fake, if it was you would expect much more input/response latency than we are seeing, it looks native, and if he where to fake it he would have used 2.2......
Yes, but if you run it in emulator and access it via wifi in local network, the responses also can be quite good.. And as far as I know, hacking the bootloader is really not easy, and honestly - if I'd done it, at first I would write some informations about what I've done.. And not just some "nothing saying" video on youtube..
yeah i think its a little bit conspicuous but.. im not looking for reasons that its fake, lets just take it at face value for the moment. i still am of the view that remote connection isn't as fast as navigation in that video, im going to test this out tonight.
do vanilla 2.1 have a blue status bar like in our 1.6 X10 ? if not it maybe an early SE 2.1 build that they promised because i clearly see a blue status bar and as you guys mentioned the boot-loader is hard to crack
not sure about that ive heard the phone can have multitouch
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SE as stated several times that the screen is not hardwarewise capable of MT.
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its blocked
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its blocked
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Can you please give your delusions a rest? I mean... I respect that you wanna give yourself false hope, but please don't give disappointments to the community around you.
It's a fact that it's been officially announced that the hardware doesn't have the capapilities.
I can introduce you a good search engine called 'Google', and to can visit the official Sony Ericsson blogs for the facts.
Sigh...
Is there a way to COMPLETELY replace the android and UI and Timescape and Mediascape that come with Xperia X10?
How?
What would you install?
Would like like to change the OS or just version of your Android? Do you want to remove the components or the whole OS?
Nimche said:
Would like like to change the OS or just version of your Android? Do you want to remove the components or the whole OS?
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I don't like SE UI. Guess it consumes a lot of hardware resources.
I would like my Xperia X10 to run the system the HTC Desire runs, for instance.
I would like to change the whole thing.
Is it possible? How?
What OS would you install then?
Answer to all them questions
No it's not possible. You can change to a diffrent home menu. Try adw launcher. But thats about it
What your asking for is possible.. but not until the bootloader has been cracked and someone has created custom ROM based on HTC Sense, but with all of the drivers etc for the X10 hardware..
But I have to ask.. why didn't you buy a HTC if you prefer their UI?
Oh.. and I don't think that your theory.. "Guess it consumes a lot of hardware resources." is valid.. but just to be sure - which resources are you talking about?? Battery? Memory? Processor bandwidth?
u guys dont know how to answer that question cuz they didnt understand that but i do but i dont know how to do that.i also want to know that.but i know one thing u can update the original software by going to SE repair center.but u have to pay for it.in my country i have to pay $50
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u guys dont know how to answer that question cuz they didnt understand that but i do but i dont know how to do that.i also want to know that.but i know one thing u can update the original software by going to SE repair center.but u have to pay for it.in my country i have to pay $50
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What? That makes no sence.
telmoabff said:
Is there a way to COMPLETELY replace the android and UI and Timescape and Mediascape that come with Xperia X10?
How?
What would you install?
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Why would you buy the X10 to begin with...? There's dozens of phones that come with stock Android.
To answer your (weird) question: No. Not until the bootloader is cracked and the devs make a new ROM.
I'm utterly confused by you.
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Why would you buy the X10 to begin with...? There's dozens of phones that come with stock Android.
To answer your (weird) question: No. Not until the bootloader is cracked and the devs make a new ROM.
I'm utterly confused by you.
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In his defense: Timescape looks pretty good and it even works well enough for demo purposes. It's when you really start using the phone it becomes useless so it's an easy mistake to make.
But yeah, I'm confused too.
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What your asking for is possible.. but not until the bootloader has been cracked and someone has created custom ROM based on HTC Sense, but with all of the drivers etc for the X10 hardware..
But I have to ask.. why didn't you buy a HTC if you prefer their UI?
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Oh, well.. Let's wait foi it then.
In Brazil, HTC are rare and I couldn't find any shops or carriers that sell them. On the contrary, Sony Ericsson is popular and has lots shops and technical assistance in case I need.
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Oh.. and I don't think that your theory.. "Guess it consumes a lot of hardware resources." is valid.. but just to be sure - which resources are you talking about?? Battery? Memory? Processor bandwidth?
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Especially battery and memory. But could I be wrong?
On the aesthetics side, I don't like the low customisation level that SE UI offers...
lildic said:
u guys dont know how to answer that question cuz they didnt understand that but i do but i dont know how to do that.i also want to know that.but i know one thing u can update the original software by going to SE repair center.but u have to pay for it.in my country i have to pay $50
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Listen... I'm not talking about updating. I'm talking about replacing completely. So that my SE Xperia X10 would look and behave just like an HTC.
You can find anything on Ebay, remember that...
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Why would you buy the X10 to begin with...? There's dozens of phones that come with stock Android.
To answer your (weird) question: No. Not until the bootloader is cracked and the devs make a new ROM.
I'm utterly confused by you.
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Look at posts #11 and #12.
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In his defense: Timescape looks pretty good and it even works well enough for demo purposes. It's when you really start using the phone it becomes useless so it's an easy mistake to make.
But yeah, I'm confused too.
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I'm getting a bit confused myself. But you can look at posts #11 and #12.
roaringhere said:
You can find anything on Ebay, remember that...
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I know it. But when it comes to a fairly expensive piece of equipment I would like to buy one from a brand which offers technical assistance in my country.
It will, but we still have to wait till they crack the boatloader and make SE hardware compatible with the 2.2 Froyo.
2.1 is coming this month sooo
Offtopic
Please use your update button, would be nice if you post all your comments etc in one post
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I know it. But when it comes to a fairly expensive piece of equipment I would like to buy one from a brand which offers technical assistance in my country.
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You do realize that by replacing the OS on your phone, you lose that technical support, right?
Also, the amount of customization on the X10 is equal to any HTC phone. The beauty of Android means you can change things to look like you want them too. Just look at any theme thread. People have changed the notification bar, the font, the menu colors, and system icons. Has nothing to do with what phone they are using.
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You do realize that by replacing the OS on your phone, you lose that technical support, right?
Also, the amount of customization on the X10 is equal to any HTC phone. The beauty of Android means you can change things to look like you want them too. Just look at any theme thread. People have changed the notification bar, the font, the menu colors, and system icons. Has nothing to do with what phone they are using.
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I'll take it in consideration.
Anyone knows if x8 can support multitouch. Is it hardware limitation or just software stupidity of SE?
While I was reading x10 news about multitouch, the article basically said the phone developers themselves had to "hack" the phone and enable it via software.
Basically if I understood it correctly from the article, the hardware is flagged as "non supportive", while it can be enabled via software.
That above ^ makes no sense, so I'd just say it's a software issue.
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While I was reading x10 news about multitouch, the article basically said the phone developers themselves had to "hack" the phone and enable it via software.
Basically if I understood it correctly from the article, the hardware is flagged as "non supportive", while it can be enabled via software.
That above ^ makes no sense, so I'd just say it's a software issue.
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If thats right,ppl can make it multitouch
I wish that will happen
Look here:
www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=199987
So we just 'might' get multitouch too.
Can someone try this.
Please.
karun11 said:
Look here:
So we just 'might' get multitouch too.
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Right, basically means the software for multitouch is already done.
Now let's see how long it'll take them to dispatch the update
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=907736
similar :/
Does the X8 digitizer support multi touch?
Yes, it does.
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Right, basically means the software for multitouch is already done.
Now let's see how long it'll take them to dispatch the update
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yeah.. if the 2.2 & 2.3 update will not come, so we can forget about the multitouch.
Tehouster said:
yeah.. if the 2.2 & 2.3 update will not come, so we can forget about the multitouch.
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dude look at my signature !
or here : http://www.facebook.com/pages/Petit...Ericsson-Xperia-series/123850457682141?ref=mf
We are more than 2.000 ppl ! YES WE CAN !
We want 2 show it SE !
We will buy no mobiles from then anymore if they dont publish new fw updates !
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dude look at my signature !
or here : http://www.facebook.com/pages/Petit...Ericsson-Xperia-series/123850457682141?ref=mf
We are more than 2.000 ppl ! YES WE CAN !
We want 2 show it SE !
We will buy no mobiles from then anymore if they dont publish new fw updates !
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nice job.
but I can always put the original firmware from 2.2 OS or 2.3
Yes, we also can do it. But it won't work.
revenge50 said:
dude look at my signature !
or here : http://www.facebook.com/pages/Petit...Ericsson-Xperia-series/123850457682141?ref=mf
We are more than 2.000 ppl ! YES WE CAN !
We want 2 show it SE !
We will buy no mobiles from then anymore if they dont publish new fw updates !
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Excuse me for being upfront, but you'll have to change your slogan in that mini "campaign"
The whole intention of them not updating software is most likely to just force you to buy new versions of mobile phones you already have ( x10 -> arc, x8 -> some new phone that'll come in 2011 ).
So it's all the same for them if you stick to your x8 for example, as the only thing they're attempting to do here is to force you to buy a new mobile phone - if you don't succumb to it, they don't give a flying **** cause you'll be stuck on a outdated, non-updating platform, and it's in your best interest to get off it if you're at least a bit of a tech savvy individual.
Also, people who stick with Sony Ericsson brand since their first phone ( such as myself, from old Ericsson t20e 'till newest x8 ), is their main market. No matter how bad service is, I won't change my mobile phone brand, as it's something I've gotten used to ever since I was 8 ( 13 years later, still using the same brand ), and same goes for many many users out there who don't need tech stuff like most of us here on xda want.
At least that's my point of view on it.
Sad really, but heh :\ Anyway, sorry for derailing the thread, and I signed up on facebook for the 2.2 support.
if is for X10, so it's will be for X8 also
NEW UPDATE
Tehouster said:
if is for X10, so it's will be for X8 also
NEW UPDATE
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possible dude but only the employer know it yet :S
@refract : I dont know.I think I will never buy a SE again if they dont publish new updates like 2.2+ for SE X8 because for exp : If I buy a new SE mobile next year,maybe will there again no updates for it -.-
Next phones will have better updates schedule.
-X8 z Tapatalk-
Does anybone here knows how to root x8 running on android 2.1??
Sent from my E15i using XDA App
use search amit... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=811457
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Does anybone here knows how to root x8 running on android 2.1??
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after rooting x8, do we have available ROMs here?
can anybody port the 3.0 honeycomb version to our beloved Hero?
they did it to the G1/Magic, here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RKEHfOwnSI&feature=player_embedded
any hope??
If there is a port to G1/Magic I guess that is possible a port to Hero..
RubenFreitas said:
If there is a port to G1/Magic I guess that is possible a port to Hero..
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there is a port, in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=936874
hiato said:
there is a port, in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=936874
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is this port working on hero ?
I would say try it.
rdejager said:
I would say try it.
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yea, let us know
it's certainly buildable for the hero - but most hardware will be broken I would imagine.
Sitting here, playing with an ugly port of the sdk, the first images,most just to remove my pin code so I can get into the system
yes elelinux!
do you think when the sources get released you would have much chance of building a full (or near full) working honeycomb rom?
sjknight413 said:
yes elelinux!
do you think when the sources get released you would have much chance of building a full (or near full) working honeycomb rom?
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I think it's possible, but it will not be easy. Especially because Honeycomb is made for tablets... and not for our phones.
If it's built from SDK I bet that almost none of the hardware is working...
mljjlm said:
If it's built from SDK I bet that almost none of the hardware is working...
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That is correct, but strangely all the backlighting of the buttons etc worked out of the box, buttons it is easy to fix if you want.
Just a little test for fun nothing else, also saw that there was support for mdpi so theoretically it could be working on Hero with some manual intervention.
Another thing to, boot up without problems
elelinux said:
That is correct, but strangely all the backlighting of the buttons etc worked out of the box, buttons it is easy to fix if you want.
Just a little test for fun nothing else, also saw that there was support for mdpi so theoretically it could be working on Hero with some manual intervention.
Another thing to, boot up without problems
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Wow, please make a rom for us to play with please. I cant believe the G1 has one and we dont.
maybe we are are asking too much on our hero....
but hey if it'll work then we shall have it
SENT FROM MY HTC HERO running GINGERBREAD by elelinux
elliotn said:
maybe we are are asking too much on our hero....
but hey if it'll work then we shall have it
SENT FROM MY HTC HERO running GINGERBREAD by elelinux
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????
the G1 is already running it!!!
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????
the G1 is already running it!!!
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Yes but hardly anything is working! Even the Nexus one has no audio,wifi,bluetooth,calls!
Yes, it is foolish to ask for a ROM that's meant to run on tablets to be made for phones. But I never have never said and never will say no to a new ROM...
Sent from my Hero using XDA App
Yes it's going to run like ass and our screens won't do any good either.
But... as always, I'm eager to see what crazy stuff the ROM-people come up with.
but the sdk version includes some feature of switching from tablet to mobile mode by simply changing resolution... they won't have included it if it wasn't meant to be run on mobiles, and in 3.1, mobile (2.x) and tablet (3.0) development lines shall be joined (says wikipedia lol). moreover, lots of people out here said it would be impossible to run 2.2 and 2.3 on hero, and right now i'm looking at my rooted android 2.3 hero which is incredibly smooth and stable (way better than with stock os). so why shouldn't it be possible? ele just said even backlight of the buttons worked out of the box, which was not case in 2.x. i'm still believing in our developers (although i can't code well enough to support them ) and i'm sure they'll do some magic
greets, Summoner
Do you really use wikipedia for truths? Anyone can add to Wiki?!
no i don't... i just think it sounds possible... otherwise, there would be two future development lines which the consequence would be that there were VERY different features depending where more / the better devs work on lol^^
i didn't claim it was the absolute truth, otherwise i wouldn't have explicitly said it came from wiki ...
greets Summoner