I dont know if this has been covered yet but i thought you guys would be interested in this information
www youtube com /watch?v=2z-9XgbehQ4
the video shows an X10 running android 2.1, its not clear as to wether its rooted or not but its definately running it
(cant post links, so u have to edit the link before pasting it into your browser )
Pretty nifty! Took forever to boot, hey? Besides the boot logo the fw didnt look SE whored out. Perhaps it is root? Or maybe an early se build?
This video was posted today in youtube.lets hope the guy tell us how he did it
that's a crappy video, hard to see. must have been taken with a crappy phone lol
I must get in touch with that guy to ask him about multitouch capabilities. If this is the official clean 2.1 we can get the final response (the only limit, in this case, could be the bootloader but I don't think so).
the first logo looks like an Arrow sign , may be downloading something to the phone or something else that is why it took that long
Alleniv said:
I must get in touch with that guy to ask him about multitouch capabilities. If this is the official clean 2.1 we can get the final response (the only limit, in this case, could be the bootloader but I don't think so).
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SE as stated several times that the screen is not hardwarewise capable of MT.
yeah great no multitouch we get it, does anyone have ANY idea how this was done?
LRI said:
SE as stated several times that the screen is not hardwarewise capable of MT.
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And Synaptics has stated several times to me <<just wait and see>>. I believe in multitouch, IMHO it's only a patent problem
For the record Synaptics managed to soft enable multi touch gestures on there standard trackpad panels, its more than possible to enable it with a little bit of fancy work (eg registering each touch seperatly at high speed and then relaying it as a single multi touch gesture to the OS). Multitouch is what everyone is obsessing over today then eh? weather its possible or not is no one else at all at interested in who even did this let alone how?! Peace and love.
Greenarcher707™ said:
that's a crappy video, hard to see. must have been taken with a crappy phone lol
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ya .. except the boot logo .. cant seem to see anythng else ..
it can also be some emulator+remote desktop video, as it was with htc hd2 running wp7. i am staying calm in this case, no additional info, nothing written there.. even the video quality. from my point of view it is not real.
proyaz said:
ya .. except the boot logo .. cant seem to see anythng else ..
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except the fact that its a stock android build and theres no SE UXP stuff?
charlie42 said:
it can also be some emulator+remote desktop video, as it was with htc hd2 running wp7. i am staying calm in this case, no additional info, nothing written there.. even the video quality. from my point of view it is not real.
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+1
10chars.
If its fake i say we get a hold of his email and email him in bulk stating how much of a **** he is, i however dont think its fake, if it was you would expect much more input/response latency than we are seeing, it looks native, and if he where to fake it he would have used 2.2......
Yes, but if you run it in emulator and access it via wifi in local network, the responses also can be quite good.. And as far as I know, hacking the bootloader is really not easy, and honestly - if I'd done it, at first I would write some informations about what I've done.. And not just some "nothing saying" video on youtube..
yeah i think its a little bit conspicuous but.. im not looking for reasons that its fake, lets just take it at face value for the moment. i still am of the view that remote connection isn't as fast as navigation in that video, im going to test this out tonight.
do vanilla 2.1 have a blue status bar like in our 1.6 X10 ? if not it maybe an early SE 2.1 build that they promised because i clearly see a blue status bar and as you guys mentioned the boot-loader is hard to crack
not sure about that ive heard the phone can have multitouch
LRI said:
SE as stated several times that the screen is not hardwarewise capable of MT.
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its blocked
skylinegtrvspec said:
its blocked
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Can you please give your delusions a rest? I mean... I respect that you wanna give yourself false hope, but please don't give disappointments to the community around you.
It's a fact that it's been officially announced that the hardware doesn't have the capapilities.
I can introduce you a good search engine called 'Google', and to can visit the official Sony Ericsson blogs for the facts.
Sigh...
Related
title says it all, super buggy when it gets cleaned up will post kernel yes i said kernel its not a cab., yippie ki yay
FAKE 10cha
great work, looking forward to it
First post and you're coming in showing a picture of android running on the HD2???
Hope this is for real as I kind of miss android from my G1, but I can almost hear all the flaming coming your way now!
all i gotta say is nothing is impossible and i will never give up i wiped the phone of windows and htc sense for windows then refreshed the boot loader with the android evo kernel as well htc sense for android and now trying to configure the os and sense to the hardware, i found this much easier with the t-mobile version since it has more rom to fit more coding, *big smile*
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all i gotta say is nothing is impossible and i will never give up i wiped the phone of windows and htc sense for windows then refreshed the boot loader with the android evo kernel as well htc sense for android and now trying to configure the os and sense to the hardware, i found this much easier with the t-mobile version since it has more rom to fit more coding, *big smile*
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If this is true and you can port android, expect a nice donation for your work! Get it to us Soon!
Fake 10cha
if you are for real and actually have gotten this to actually boot and run, could you give us an idea, or at least post what you need help with... I wouldnt call myself an android expert but i do know my way around the OS and most of the other items.
good luck and keep us posted!
well i hope that this is for real, and I'd definitely join the donation bandwagon if we get a working android port for the HD2.
I just must say I'd be surprised if you were able to get it running so easily based off the evo 4G. There are a lot of brilliant minds on here that have been working on getting android to the hd2 that haven't been able to do it yet. Maybe a video would help show us what you've got so far?
That looks fake as hell. You can't tell me there isn't too much wasted space below the bottom button bar on the screen??
paging dcordes, paging dcordes.
biscuits1978 said:
That looks fake as hell. You can't tell me there isn't too much wasted space below the bottom button bar on the screen??
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..There isint.
When it all comes down to it the development of this thread can be out onto two words, wait and hope.
nothing is impossible said:
title says it all, super buggy when it gets cleaned up will post kernel yes i said kernel its not a cab., yippie ki yay
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well it would be nice if you actually used a picture that wasnt a stock picture of the evo 4g for your photoshopping LOL..
http://www.flickr.com/photos/edlimagno/4460748456/
the background dates weather time temperature and even bluetooth logo match at the top...fakkee..
good try though
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well it would be nice if you actually used a picture that wasnt a stock picture of the evo 4g for your photoshopping LOL..
http://www.flickr.com/photos/edlimagno/4460748456/
the background dates weather time temperature and even bluetooth logo match at the top...fakkee..
good try though
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BUSTED!!!!!
k20a1 said:
well it would be nice if you actually used a picture that wasnt a stock picture of the evo 4g for your photoshopping LOL..
http://www.flickr.com/photos/edlimagno/4460748456/
the background dates weather time temperature and even bluetooth logo match at the top...fakkee..
good try though
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LOL
Thx k20a1
Haha ! Fake !!!
Same hour, same place? ROFL.
You suck, I hoped it a little bit !!!
yeah just like on my hd2 box
10:08 and Location^^
haha if its not a fake its great surprisingly
DN41
i will believe this when someone else (someone with more than 2 posts, no offense) confirms this. but as of now, this means nothing to me
loser...... pff
nothing is impossible said:
title says it all, super buggy when it gets cleaned up will post kernel yes i said kernel its not a cab., yippie ki yay
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Sh*t bag.... or bag full of sh*t...
i can't use youtobe in china
so i upload the video
i seems that se have much to do to the 2.1
and there is a news that maybe 2.1 will delay.
too low quality to see anything
zephyrix said:
too low quality to see anything
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i am sorry about that
but the video is not made by me, i just found it and upload.
Thank you for sharing dear but that was an amateur video
I be he could do better video !
Thanks anyway
Cheers
Vatis
vatis24 said:
Thank you for sharing dear but that was an amateur video
I be he could do better video !
Thanks anyway
Cheers
Vatis
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thx i will ask him if he can make a better video.
You rock !
Regards
Vatis
Has someone cracked the bootloader now then
It looks like he just updated to android 2.1. Is your friend and employee of sony ericsson?
It's a bad quality video, but thanks for sharing.
guys... cut him some slack for sharing... It's not that the video quality is bad (ok maybe the direction of the movie is bad... First minute of watching I was wondering if it's supposed to make me fall asleep watching the sony ericsson sign, or maybe a ghostly image pops up with a scream so loud, it'd scare the beejeezus outta me)
The movie screen resolution is actually meant to be small, not full screen size of your monitor.
Keep the screen resolution to its original % and you'll see the image just fine =)
But I'm just curious... Is that phone owner a hacker or something?
He should get arrested if he is =X
painful to watch....
Hi Thanx for the movie.
Could you ask to your friend if he could extract the full rom of this device ?
This is wonderfull if we can have those files for all xda's dev !
Maybe i'm wrong ?
frostdream said:
Hi Thanx for the movie.
Could you ask to your friend if he could extract the full rom of this device ?
This is wonderfull if we can have those files for all xda's dev !
Maybe i'm wrong ?
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Yeah, I think that would help out a lot. Especially once we get custom roms rolling.
Any news for the video?
gr8 video
any more news about this anywhere?
can I also know the source of video pls?
Hello,
first of all thank you for this cute sharing!
Can your ask to your friend that made this ROM cooking if he can ensure us that has been able to use multitouch (or dualtouch, it doesn't matter) on the X10 with Android 2.1 ?
Thanks! Hope you let us know as soon as you have more info!!
p.s.: hello abm77!
It's kinda sad, I find this pre-beta/beta ROM more exciting than the actual GM release. I want a stock update with none of the crap SE adds, all that social web malware. If I want any FB, Twitter or what have you stuff on my phone I'll install it myself.
And yes, I know it can be purged somewhat from a rooted phone but you're still stuck with some residual scraps and removing all the extra stuff is annoying and shouldn't have to be done.
I'd almost be willing to pay a symbolic fee to SE if they would provide two updates instead of one when 2.1 rolls out. One officially supported and one vanilla. The vanilla one wouldn't even have to be supported and could be posted with a gigantic warning saying: "WE WILL NOT SUPPORT THIS, IF IT BREAKS IT'S YOUR OWN FAULT!!". Anything to not have to deal with *scape, FB and all that gear.
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It's kinda sad, I find this pre-beta/beta ROM more exciting than the actual GM release. I want a stock update with none of the crap SE adds, all that social web malware. If I want any FB, Twitter or what have you stuff on my phone I'll install it myself.
And yes, I know it can be purged somewhat from a rooted phone but you're still stuck with some residual scraps and removing all the extra stuff is annoying and shouldn't have to be done.
I'd almost be willing to pay a symbolic fee to SE if they would provide two updates instead of one when 2.1 rolls out. One officially supported and one vanilla. The vanilla one wouldn't even have to be supported and could be posted with a gigantic warning saying: "WE WILL NOT SUPPORT THIS, IF IT BREAKS IT'S YOUR OWN FAULT!!". Anything to not have to deal with *scape, FB and all that gear.
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Hmm... Then I seriously think you should get another phone. X10 is about timescape and mediascape.
Maybe a Nexus One will suit you better?
loneLEE said:
Hmm... Then I seriously think you should get another phone. X10 is about timescape and mediascape.
Maybe a Nexus One will suit you better?
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Because we like the hardware!
then learn to live with it, I guess?
Alleniv said:
Hello,
first of all thank you for this cute sharing!
Can your ask to your friend that made this ROM cooking if he can ensure us that has been able to use multitouch (or dualtouch, it doesn't matter) on the X10 with Android 2.1 ?
Thanks! Hope you let us know as soon as you have more info!!
p.s.: hello abm77!
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Hi Alleniv!
can some one help me with my camera , the camera picture quality is real bad n i dont kno wat to do . i have flsh the kumar rom n it works great but no matter wat i do the picture is garbage is this the phone its self?
Seks718 said:
can some one help me with my camera , the camera picture quality is real bad n i dont kno wat to do . i have flsh the kumar rom n it works great but no matter wat i do the picture is garbage is this the phone its self?
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No, it's capable of taking some great pictures, in the right conditions and use...can you give some more details on what you're trying to take pictures of, etc? And please clarify exactly what you mean by "the picture is garbage"
Some tips:
-make sure the lens cover is clean, every time before you take pics...it doesn't take very much crud or finger grease on there to distort your images
-hold the phone as still as possible when shooting, the HD2 doesn't have a lot of instability tolerance
-lighting is crucial, you may have to make adjustments in the environment when taking indoor shots
-go into the settings on the camera (the little gear icon that appears when you hit the tab below the shutter button), and then choose "advanced". On page one is the resolution setting, and on page two is the quality setting...make sure both of those aren't set too low.
also, learning how to spell really helps...if you cant, people on here are less inclined to answer you. just a heads up
oshizzle1991 said:
also, learning how to spell really helps...if you cant, people on here are less inclined to answer you. just a heads up
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Really man...? We have people here from all different countries. Spelling is probably the least of our worries. Now noobs coming in asking about Android on HD2, probably more of an issue to call someone out on.
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Really man...? We have people here from all different countries. Spelling is probably the least of our worries. Now noobs coming in asking about Android on HD2, probably more of an issue to call someone out on.
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the title of the section is called "T-Mobile USA(!!!!!) HTC HD2". if he had an international version he wouldnt have posted it on this forum.
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-make sure the lens cover is clean, every time before you take pics...it doesn't take very much crud or finger grease on there to distort your images
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I can attest to this one: Couple of finger smudges and all of the sudden your once-sharp pics get blurry. A quick wipe with the inside of a cotton shirt is all I do.
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the title of the section is called "T-Mobile USA(!!!!!) HTC HD2". if he had an international version he wouldnt have posted it on this forum.
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You missed one key word... PEOPLE from different countries. Not the phone lol. He could be from another country of origin; meaning his spelling of words in the English dictionary might not be perfect.
Maybe he just failed English for all I know. Point is, theres far more constructive things to do on this forum than faulting other members for spelling a word wrong
lol thanks people for the reply, and it was funny also , anyway i like the phone when i got it n the new roms that u can flash are great but i think im giving up on this phone plus not a lot of good apps, what i really like was the size of the screen, movies are great on it ,n big plus that it was a windows phone n no im not an iphone fan . This phone has a lot of potential . Any one know of a better phone for Tmobile?
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lol thanks people for the reply, and it was funny also , anyway i like the phone when i got it n the new roms that u can flash are great but i think im giving up on this phone plus not a lot of good apps, what i really like was the size of the screen, movies are great on it ,n big plus that it was a windows phone n no im not an iphone fan . This phone has a lot of potential . Any one know of a better phone for Tmobile?
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no phone right now considering the HD2 can now run android (with data!). it will be its top phone for...at least a year.
Seks718 said:
lol thanks people for the reply, and it was funny also , anyway i like the phone when i got it n the new roms that u can flash are great but i think im giving up on this phone plus not a lot of good apps, what i really like was the size of the screen, movies are great on it ,n big plus that it was a windows phone n no im not an iphone fan . This phone has a lot of potential . Any one know of a better phone for Tmobile?
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Samsung vibrant is pretty awesome. I played with one yesterday. If you dont like the apps on the hd2 that pretty much limits you to android.
i would love to put android on my phone but i dont think is running all that great yet right ? or m i wrong , i think its to soon for me to do that flsh n i only started flashing not to long ago so far i tryed kumar , cell evo and another i cant rember i stayed with the kumar runs great.
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i would love to put android on my phone but i dont think is running all that great yet right ? or m i wrong , i think its to soon for me to do that flsh n i only started flashing not to long ago so far i tryed kumar , cell evo and another i cant rember i stayed with the kumar runs great.
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From what I understand it doesn't run on the US version, but I'm not caught up on my reading. I would love to be able to dual boot Wmo and Android but only because I'm a nerd and I love to mess with my phones.
crisisinthecity said:
From what I understand it doesn't run on the US version, but I'm not caught up on my reading. I would love to be able to dual boot Wmo and Android but only because I'm a nerd and I love to mess with my phones.
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what? it runs perfectly on our US version. im running a desire rom now. data works and everything. here is the link.http://gamesquare.co.uk/desire.html
to instal, extrat files to the ROOT of your sd card, then run the HARET program. i suggest you use 7-zip to extract the files.
Following on from THIS thread which raises a valid point imo...
The Galaxy Spica (also known as the i5700) has been blessed with multitouch support in some homebrew drivers that are making their way into homebrew kernels for homebrew ROMs, despite the official line that said phone doesn't support more than one finger at a time. Really drives home the point that "support" can refer both to the hardware's capability and the manufacturer's willingness to maximize it, doesn't it?
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-mobile.engadget.com
...MT may just be possible after all.
It means nothing.
IBTL.
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It means nothing.
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Or could mean it is possible, but will take a developer to realise it.
thought hardware cant support more than 1 finger at a time so regardless of what devs can come up with, its not gonna work??
or has someone identified what panel the x10 is using and im talking nonsense?
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thought hardware cant support more than 1 finger at a time so regardless of what devs can come up with, its not gonna work??
or has someone identified what panel the x10 is using and im talking nonsense?
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To my knowledge no one has discovered what model the touch panel is. Right now the official word from SE is that the hardware doesn't support it.
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thought hardware cant support more than 1 finger at a time so regardless of what devs can come up with, its not gonna work??
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Who knows now, but this news opens up to the possibility that it just might work...
despite the official line that said phone doesn't support more than one finger at a time.
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As far as i am concerned, i dont really care if we get MT or not. But i dont see why SE would release their top end android phone without putting a MT capable digitizer on it, whether they enable MT or not. Maybe they know it is capable but never enabled it because of copyright issues with crapple.
This is just another pointless thread, When we crack the boot loader and can put on Custom Roms we will find out if its a yes or a no, till then we can all debade the meanings of life and all the other types to topics that are there to waste time.
Chewitt said:
This is just another pointless thread
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It might be, in your opinion, the point of the thread is to highlight that another handset of which it's maker said MT wasn't available now actually is thanks to a developer, so there just might be a possibility that other handsets sold with no MT support might not necessarily be because of a hardware issue.
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To my knowledge no one has discovered what model the touch panel is. Right now the official word from SE is that the hardware doesn't support it.
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they have to say something, if it supports, SE wont launch drivers for it so soon... Without know the model of the panel, no way to know.
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As far as i am concerned, i dont really care if we get MT or not. But i dont see why SE would release their top end android phone without putting a MT capable digitizer on it, whether they enable MT or not. Maybe they know it is capable but never enabled it because of copyright issues with crapple.
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I just love how you refer to it everytime without fail, as crapple.
I think the best way is asking a SE dev if x10 supports MT
Maybe SE will enable it on 2.1 if the hardware supports it....
Sent from my rooted 026 x10i using XDA App
Im closing this because it could have easily been put into the other multitouch debate threads
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NroxUUoBAg&feature=sub*MIGHT BE FAKE*
I tested this multi touch my self.
But what we don't know is that in the video is it the 2.1 update or just another fake.
In the video below recorded by me. *YES THAT'S ME*
I tested multi touch with an application.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trVNFikrmW4
Sorry quality is bad.
You can test it your self.
Link for Applicaton(NOT MADE BY ME):
http://www.mediafire.com/?438drz12r75a18q
Maybe it's a fake, maybe it's not. But your "test" doesn't prove anything.
It's been said like 50 times already that Android 1.6 doesn't support multitouch, so how could you test it?
Puck24 said:
Maybe it's a fake, maybe it's not. But your "test" doesn't prove anything.
It's been said like 50 times already that Android 1.6 doesn't support multitouch, so how could you test it?
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+1 but still i will appreciate him for his efforts
Puck24 said:
Maybe it's a fake, maybe it's not. But your "test" doesn't prove anything.
It's been said like 50 times already that Android 1.6 doesn't support multitouch, so how could you test it?
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The video description said it's maybe 2.1 firmware but I just wanted to test it on 1.6 because in the video the person may have been using 1.6 and I think MT can work on Xperia x10 in my opinion but not on 1.6.
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+1 but still i will appreciate him for his efforts
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Thanks.
How many times doe sthe MANUFACTURER and assembler of the instrument in question have to tell you that multitouch is not possible due to the HARDWARE?
Amazing. If this level of conviction could be harnessed by real people the world's ills could all be cured in one day!
Its really doesn't matter as this should be posted in the multi touch thread that already exists
OP if you have issue with me closing ur thread feel free to PM me then i can tell you how you broke the rules