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DEVs - You've been called upon to remove an app!

This is quoted from the developer of SetCPU and his thread:
ROM developers: I became aware of a number of devs who are now bundling this version of SetCPU with ROMs. For now, do not include SetCPU with your ROM. If it is in your ROM, please remove it. I'm probably going to find out a solution to this but barely anyone is giving (enough) credit or mentioning that it's also in the Market, and on top of that, they are putting their own donate links in there (the worst offenders do not give credit at all). Most devs are putting the APK in /system/app making purchasing (donating!) and upgrading SetCPU difficult, and rendering the one time donate link useless. That's a kick in the face to me. No dev has bothered to ask me for permission. It's really irritating me - SetCPU has been a huge effort, it's older than most of your ROMs (look at the date of this topic, look at how many times it's been updated - this isn't even the full changelog), and I would like people to at least read this thread.
I appreciate the work you're doing, but link to this thread instead. It is free here.
Here is the original thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=505419

I posted this a couple weeks ago.

well I believe you should post this through the entire site as many of the dev’s have moved on to other phones I did read the notice about 3 weeks ago, it was posted, Hopefully others will follow your request even if they are just upgrading an existing rom or a new one from scratch.

Yeah, this is a very good app. .. I had no promblem getting the paid version after useing it compared to the overclock widget

Thread moved to General.

I removed from my rom before it came out of testing phase. I actually prefer overclock widget but that's a different convo

jerry43812 said:
This is quoted from the developer of SetCPU and his thread:
ROM developers: I became aware of a number of devs who are now bundling this version of SetCPU with ROMs. For now, do not include SetCPU with your ROM. If it is in your ROM, please remove it. I'm probably going to find out a solution to this but barely anyone is giving (enough) credit or mentioning that it's also in the Market, and on top of that, they are putting their own donate links in there (the worst offenders do not give credit at all). Most devs are putting the APK in /system/app making purchasing (donating!) and upgrading SetCPU difficult, and rendering the one time donate link useless. That's a kick in the face to me. No dev has bothered to ask me for permission. It's really irritating me - SetCPU has been a huge effort, it's older than most of your ROMs (look at the date of this topic, look at how many times it's been updated - this isn't even the full changelog), and I would like people to at least read this thread.
I appreciate the work you're doing, but link to this thread instead. It is free here.
Here is the original thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=505419
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Unless this is a PAID APP there is no reason anyone can't use it any way they see fit. This is an open source community, which means there are no requirements to give credit, that is a courtesy. I agree that they should you give you credit, but you have no right to say they can't use it.

This is quoted from the developer of SetCPU and his thread:
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Unless this is a PAID APP there is no reason anyone can't use it any way they see fit. This is an open source community, which means there are no requirements to give credit, that is a courtesy. I agree that they should you give you credit, but you have no right to say they can't use it.
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If u look in the market it is a paid app. On xda he gives it out for free but respectfully asks that since its a paid app he shares here for free then he would like people to be directed to his page to get it. Makes sense to me. There is a lot of info on his page and u find out who made it and how to use it.

First off, this is another bad call by mods toi move this to a general section when out of respect for the developer of the app, it was posted in he development section since it is directly affecting ROMs that are being made.
I agree it should be sitewide but that's not my business.
In response to you, chfields, I really hope you're not directing that response to me personally. I am not the one who made the original post. I made this post so the guys here who make ROMs can respect a man's wishes. Simple as that.
cbarlan: you're absolutely correct. Devs here, as well as anywhere else, should be respectful enough to post a guide on how to use it or whatever, or at least post a simple link and not include the application, per the app dev's request.
Guys, it's a respect issue mainly. I aint stirring the **** pot, aint trying to make anyone upset, and I don't think this information will get the proper attention it deserves being shoved off into a non-related sub-forum when this information directly affects the development of any ROMs that use this app.

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I posted this a couple weeks ago.
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I had no clue you posted it. I thought it was relatively new information since the post was last edited on the 13th. My bad, and hopefully all is well with ya.

jerry43812 said:
I had no clue you posted it. I thought it was relatively new information since the post was last edited on the 13th. My bad, and hopefully all is well with ya.
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I am well. I posted it after he posted about it on Twitter. However, I got some jerks that posted on mine saying that I was just trying to stir up trouble and stuff...I am not..I just want people to be recognized for their work. He updates often and works hard. OC widget gets updated once every 6 months. How are you doing?

I am on top of the world and ready to help people out wherever I can! Thanks for asking. I think people might feel like I am trying to stir trouble too but trays not the case. When the guy posts something like that, attention needs brought to it. Know what I mean?
I had no clue you posted it. I thought it was relatively new information since the post was last edited on the 13th. My bad, and hopefully all is well with ya.
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I am well. I posted it after he posted about it on Twitter. However, I got some jerks that posted on mine saying that I was just trying to stir up trouble and stuff...I am not..I just want people to be recognized for their work. He updates often and works hard. OC widget gets updated once every 6 months. How are you doing?
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jerry43812 said:
First off, this is another bad call by mods toi move this to a general section when out of respect for the developer of the app, it was posted in he development section since it is directly affecting ROMs that are being made.
I agree it should be sitewide but that's not my business.
In response to you, chfields, I really hope you're not directing that response to me personally. I am not the one who made the original post. I made this post so the guys here who make ROMs can respect a man's wishes. Simple as that.
cbarlan: you're absolutely correct. Devs here, as well as anywhere else, should be respectful enough to post a guide on how to use it or whatever, or at least post a simple link and not include the application, per the app dev's request.
Guys, it's a respect issue mainly. I aint stirring the **** pot, aint trying to make anyone upset, and I don't think this information will get the proper attention it deserves being shoved off into a non-related sub-forum when this information directly affects the development of any ROMs that use this app.
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I was not directing this at you personally and not trying to cause trouble. I was simply stating that if it is not a paid app (which, thanks to cbarlan/papa smurf I now know that it is) he has no right to tell people they can't use it. Since it is, the point is moot...............I do apologize if it came out the wrong way..

Dude you're cool, no worries man!
First off, this is another bad call by mods toi move this to a general section when out of respect for the developer of the app, it was posted in he d
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I was not directing this at you personally and not trying to cause trouble. I was simply stating that if it is not a paid app (which, thanks to cbarlan/papa smurf I now know that it is) he has no right to tell people they can't use it. Since it is, the point is moot...............I do apologize if it came out the wrong way..
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[Q] Resign App Inventor APKs

Is there a way to resign the APKs generated by Googles App Inventor? (if you change, say the icon)

Couldn't you just use the testsign.jar?

evilkorn said:
Couldn't you just use the testsign.jar?
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I don't know what this is.
You mean I should change the name of the apk to testsign.jar? Or is it something I should find somewhere?

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=testsign.jar

Thanks for nothing.
If anybody actually wants to help feel free to post.

Kermode said:
Thanks for nothing.
If anybody actually wants to help feel free to post.
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...be nice. He was trying to help.
Ok, so I just done a search for "testsign android" and the 1st link is http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3175518&postcount=2
.... I think that'l help.

ddotpatel said:
...be nice. He was trying to help.
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No. Helping would be saying "You do this "insert explanation". Just posting that is trolling. He might as well have posted "oil platform, platypus, beetle" it tells me nothing, and I have no idea what it is and searching for it is no help at all. As always if people don't want to help that's fine but they should shut up then.
ddotpatel said:
Ok, so I just done a search for "testsign android" and the 1st link is http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3175518&postcount=2
.... I think that'l help.
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That thread is about making a theme, I don't want to make a theme. I want to sign an apk (actually I want to change an ICON but someone says you have to sign the apk whatever that means).
(Also note first line: "you will need a working knowledge of android, adb,how to resign apk's" - I don't have that, I don't have that, I don't know how to do that!)
Anyway, unsubbing this thread.

Perhaps the problem was using "sign" in the subject.
I shall make a new post with a more newbish title.

@Kermode
You want to do something, but don't want to get knowledge on how to do that, because this is too much for you. Not everything could be explained in two words.

If it means reading hundreds of threads with hundreds of irrelevant and offtopic messages, yes then it is too much for me. If it meant reading a concise page with only relevant information, perhaps it wouldn't be too much.
And whilst two words are enough for nothing, everything can be reduced to a relatively short core meaning.

Ok, I think easiest way is to:
unzip apk file
find and replace an icon
remove META-INF dir
zip everything back and name it as *.apk
sign it: you could search for testsign tool or look here: http://d.android.com/guide/publishing/app-signing.html . Most important for you are "Obtain a suitable private key" and "Sign your application with your private key".

Kermode said:
If it means reading hundreds of threads with hundreds of irrelevant and offtopic messages, yes then it is too much for me. If it meant reading a concise page with only relevant information, perhaps it wouldn't be too much.
And whilst two words are enough for nothing, everything can be reduced to a relatively short core meaning.
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PEOPLE like you really piss me off on forums...you dont bother looking up information like you should, your very disrespectful, and from what ive seen your an all around! Sorry for my language MODS but someone has to say it. You should learn your spot and if you wanna learn how to resign then look as there are plenty of threads. You just want someone to give you everything and do it the easy way. Sometimes in order to do things you must do your homework which apparently you cant do.
For the way you acted to the other guy i would suggest that NO ONE help this guy and let him learn how to do it by himself Since he pretty much just said he isnt gunna look through threads he wants it handed to him(look at the post above)!
PEOPLE like you disgust me!

@OP:
Sufficient responses have been provided to an improperly titled thread.
XDA is about knowledge and experiences whilst using a particular device, application, or custom (tweak) work. As such, you will encounter numerous posts in threads that may provide less relevance than others within the same thread - it is your responsibility to "filter" past such posts ... this is no different than any other Forum you may frequent.
Additionally, there is an option in your profile to view up to 50 posts/screen page ... this greatly helps filter more content at once.
Thread closed.

Make a dev tread clearer..

Hi, I'm trying something done for the topicstarters in a dev tread. Please read and tell me your thought.
streamnlnl said:
Question,
Is it possible for a topic starter in a dev tread to clean his own tread in the futere?
Mayby it's a idea to ad that option if a topic starter asked that.
And that they can only clean his/her tread?
I think it make yours and theirs live a lot relaxer.
You don't need to watch every tread. And the dev can keep his tread cleen without spamming and the same question over en over again.
Sorry for my typo.....
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The response.
12aon said:
Do you really think this is a good idea. Members get into fights, even topic starters. This could easily be misused, and I'm certain it will lead to more aggravation than it will solve.
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My answer.
streamnlnl said:
Yes, I really think this is a good idea.
You can make rules before you ad the option. Like new members.
The dev need (for example) a least 100 post* before they can ask you for the option. Then you can screen the past of that person . And if they misbehaving. Then we (the not dev people) have many options to contact you. And after you warning a dev. The next time he goose across the line, he lost that option for good ...
But this is just my opinion. And again, I thinks this good really worked.
Thanks for answer me.
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Please tell your thought about this if you think this is a good idea. And please don't quote this message compete in this tread (Most of the time I read the forums trough the xda app)
Thanks.

streamnlnl said:
Hi, I'm trying something done for the topicstarters in a dev tread. Please read and tell me your thought.
The response.
My answer.
Please tell your thought about this if you think this is a good idea. And please don't quote this message compete in this tread (Most of the time I read the forums trough the xda app)
Thanks.
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No, rules are fine as is. And this is in the wrong section

Yeah I think this is a good idea

I think the idea is good in theory, however I don't see it being as good in practice. First, the devs rarely post anyway. I don't think they also want the responsibility of cleaning their own threads. To be honest, it is usually not the devs complaining about off topic. It's the senior members who have self assigned themselves forum police. I can definitely see something like this getting out of hand or misused.
I think the 10 posts minimum to post in the dev threads is both part of the problem and solution. Now we have noobs posting new threads wherever they can just so they can get a question answered or get their post count up. The problem is that they didn't LEARN anything by that rule. At the end of 10 forced posts they are still wanting an answer to their dev questions, so they post it in a dev thread anyway.
With xRecovery and the increasing ease of modifying your phone, more and more less experienced people are hacking their phones. Those people are inevitably going to have more questions, and the current "devs only" approach leaves them no option but to post in the devs thread.
I think the recent trend of linking a discussion thread to the dev thread is a more feasible and fair way to go. It would be better if somehow xda could link the discussion thread, rather than having a link hidden amongst the posts.
JMHO

Something such like this isn't possible, only if you would create in the Admin Control Panel a special usergroup to move devs to it. Just to much work for such a little thing.

this is not a good idea
and this would be apparent if people have been here for a length of time
im gonna give a scenario here
ok developers can mod their own threads. what if that same dev then does something bad and underhanded, and then a member in the threads knows and posts it in the thread (this has actually happened before). the dev then goes and deleted all traces of this from the thread so the moderators never know of the developers wrongdoing
in a perfect world this maybe a good idea
however at the minute no. this would allow a developers too many tools to cover up any moment of ill judgement

Not a good ideal for me. I'm sorry
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poll for a new option on the XDA site

The case.....
I want a extra option on the tread with the ability to agree with some one.
I read the most post, on my phone with the XDA app.
And i find it hard to read stuff that is relevant for me to read.
Imagine how hard it must be for a dev to find relevant post........
There are a large number of users who post "+1, +100000, +1!!!!!" replies with no bearing on the thread. I'm thought of adding an "Agree" button would alleviate that.
That you could see that also (like the thanks button).
Something like this: The following (numbers) user are agree with this post.
I hope that it will help.
My hope with this poll is to see how many people wanted this.
So the question is:
Do you think this is a good idea (the agree button) to put this on the site?
Thanks in advance
PS if you don't think this is a good idea, please let me know why....

+1
It would surely help avoid the threads getting messy. Also it would be great without a "5 agree" limit like the "5 thanks" limit a day.

I agree to this post as right now i'm using the "thanks" button for that unless i have further on topic info.

definitely a valid option let´s hope mods see that. already voted

u can have agree/disagree (though this can lead to trolls/spammers screwing up credibility of the post)
i think this is a valid concern and we should have an "Agree" button...

Yeah.. "disagree" will just make more trolling.

Nice idea ...

why not have a similar thread in MAIN Android General section... why limit it to Xperia X10 subforum?

i was working on it
Done!
@rendeiro2005:
Thank you for your example

DooMLoRD said:
why not have a similar thread in MAIN Android General section... why limit it to Xperia X10 subforum?
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here is a VERY GOOD EXAMPLE
+1000000

If there was an "Agree" button, I'd push it right now and I wouldn't be making this post.
xda forums really need to limit non-contributing posts. Almost every single thread here is a total mess.

sure, now if someone wants to contact vbulletin and have them rewrite their software, then redistribute it, then xda could implement it.

I love when people have very brilliant ideas.
Good idea OP.

Great idea!
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Thanks you for the kind words and the vote's.
What I don't get, is that 290 people have seen this tread and only 18 have taking the time to vote.
My thanks for them.
I know the poll isn't showing on the XDA app. But in that case please reply to the tread.
So i have something to show to the mods/admin.
Again, I really believe that this could work and make XDA better.

This should have been in the Xda general forum, ill move it later

-PiLoT- said:
This should have been in the Xda general forum, ill move it later
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He made one there and linked to this post

I agree guys !

This is something like the like/dislike on facebook, linkedin and whatnot.
It would possibly require some recoding on vBulletin. Don't see that it would be "too hard" (and I may be completely wrong), but take a minute to ponder what the utility of "n" agrees/don't agree on post in threads with liek 5000 posts.
What about putting in an agree/don't agree or like/dislike PER THREAD -
Another possibility would be to replicate the "thanks" funcionality for "agrees" - the functionality is already there (Each post already mentions users which have thanked another FOR A GIVEN post) just a new "agree" variable/counter and use pretty much existing code.
Then again I may be off my rocker. Haven't touched PHP in several years, nor vBulletin. FYI there are some threads on this/similar functionality in the vBulletin forum: http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?t=241011&highlight=like/dislike

acmbc said:
This is something like the like/dislike on facebook, linkedin and whatnot.
It would possibly require some recoding on vBulletin. Don't see that it would be "too hard" (and I may be completely wrong), but take a minute to ponder what the utility of "n" agrees/don't agree on post in threads with liek 5000 posts.
What about putting in an agree/don't agree or like/dislike PER THREAD -
Another possibility would be to replicate the "thanks" funcionality for "agrees" - the functionality is already there (Each post already mentions users which have thanked another FOR A GIVEN post) just a new "agree" variable/counter and use pretty much existing code.
Then again I may be off my rocker. Haven't touched PHP in several years, nor vBulletin. FYI there are some threads on this/similar functionality in the vBulletin forum: http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?t=241011&highlight=like/dislike
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Only a Like/Agree would be okay. We don't want negative things here You should also know that XDA runs on vB3 and not vB4.

ROM List?

Hi,
I do realise that one of the moderators have requested not to ask questions or they will be deleted, however, I was wondering if someone (and yes, this is mainly aimed at a moderator) could make a thread with listing all the ROMs with links to the respective threads and Sticky it.
I have seen this done for other devices I have owned in subforums of this site and has made ROM tracking and selection easier, especially for newbies (although this is one of my first posts, I have been with the site for several years now).
Regards and apologies for the request/question.

Without sounding l*ke a ****...
I understand you want it stickied here but You should just search google, there's a list compiled of nearly all the DHD ROMs.
You're probably just gonna' get flamed for this post, you need to search properly (On and off XDA) before starting a thread.

why dont you make it?
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Ya that would be a nice contribution, if you went and created such a list and kept it updated. good idea! But i agree, if its something you want, do it and youll probably see good responses to that. Asking someone to do easy but tedious work for you, thats lazy and probably not going to happen.

You are right wrong section for questions.
But I'll hopefully answer you.
In other phones sub forums members with some extra time on their hands have created a thread...then if it's suitable mods will sticky it.
Trouble is builds are changed and or updated often and after a while the op of the sticky struggles to keep it upto date.
Most of the best builds are found on the first or second page. Which acts like a sticky in its self! Obviously takes a little more time to navigate the info on each build as some peoples ops are huge! But at least the info is as current as it could possibly be.
At first Rom lists were just what I wanted too but after seeing other stickys for other phones dwindle to being unusable just subscribing to my top threads for each style of Rom I use is more convenient and personal to me.
I hope I finish writing this before this thread is closed!
Peace people
Sent from my HTC Desire HD using xda premium

Firstly, I would make one more than happily, however, without garauntee that it would get Stickied (which I cannot control for obvious reasons :S) it would be a waste of my time.
Yes I realise I will probably be flamed for this thread. And no offence taken.
After posting this (and then getting the second reply) I realised that I should not have bothered, not for the responses I may (and most probably will) get, but the site does not allow for a non-moderator to delete a thread, not even the original poster (from my knowledge), although I do still stand by my belief that what I have requested/suggested would benefit a lot of people, save a lot of questions/remarks (generally rude and un-necessary) and yes, I would still be happy to compile it, if it were garaunteed to be Stickied.
Regards again

I was feelin kind so i made you a list http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=765
dont forget to thank me

lol you didnt get flamed at all taken in account that the thread exists, even better two of them.
one of 3 stickys in this forum:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=936214
and inside that there are at least two links with list of roms:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=846248
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1079108
which to be honest are quite outdated but never the less are exactly what you are asking for. and the best list is the development forum itself. i am amazed to be able to even post this meaning the thread is still open

Ok, thank you everyone for your comments, help and assistance, I do not believe my point was 100% clear to everyone.
I do not have a problem 'myself' finding what I am after, twas a thought for others.
However, I especially thank those of you who clearly could point out exactly how stupid I am for even thinking of such a thing and for proving to me that people cannot read and understand a simple clear post.
Point made, my (seemingly good at the time to reduce rubbish posts, questions and requests (like this)) idea has been misconstruded and misunderstood by those whom I had the belief would be those that would understand simple context the best.
Please can a MOD delete this thread before it gets rediculously out of control.
Regards and appreciation

user.unknown said:
Ok, thank you everyone for your comments, help and assistance, I do not believe my point was 100% clear to everyone.
I do not have a problem 'myself' finding what I am after, twas a thought for others.
However, I especially thank those of you who clearly could point out exactly how stupid I am for even thinking of such a thing and for proving to me that people cannot read and understand a simple clear post.
Point made, my (seemingly good at the time to reduce rubbish posts, questions and requests (like this)) idea has been misconstruded and misunderstood by those whom I had the belief would be those that would understand simple context the best.
Please can a MOD delete this thread before it gets rediculously out of control.
Regards and appreciation
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? did you get lots of pm's asking for a Rom list sticky from noobs? I thought your point was 'why isn't there a Rom list in the stickys?' What kind of answer were you looking for?
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for user.unknown: http://alchemistar.blogspot.com/2010/12/htc-desire-hd-custom-rom-list.html
I suppose this'd answer the best to your initial question.

danton11 said:
? did you get lots of pm's asking for a Rom list sticky from noobs? I thought your point was 'why isn't there a Rom list in the stickys?' What kind of answer were you looking for?
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Nevermind, I thought I was being helpful and even offering to do this work on the basis of it being stickied 'somewhere' clearly. My opinion hasn't been changed by your 'personal opinion' and that is also respected.
Comment was not directed at any individual specifically.
Again, MOD please delete and apologies for the offer

Working on it
It may not be something necessary but as a user i dont give much to the xda community and since I have long weekend without school Im in the process of creating a list with: Roms, Kernels. tweaks, scripts and recovery will upload asap hope a moderator will stick it once done. Will update this post with link when available.
Edit:
Even if we have Grant Barker list [BTW thanks for that] i will continue my list specially for kernels, tweaks and scripts.
On the link below you can have a view at the format that im going to use [ unless mayority prefers another] its still under construction and features only the first development pages as it is intended to see if i will continue with it depending on replies.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=25114172#post25114172

For an up-to-date rom list for the HTC Desire HD, you can use mine.. I update it daily.. http://www.grantbarker.com/#roms
It's been quite popular for about a year, now.

Grant Barker said:
For an up-to-date rom list for the HTC Desire HD, you can use mine.. I update it daily.. http://www.grantbarker.com/#roms
It's been quite popular for about a year, now.
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I've used your list quite a few times, although i havn't looked at it for a little while. It's by far the most up-to-date list i've seen and it's good to see that you still keep it up-to-date. A lot of these lists get real old real quick.

Thanks lrm537.

user.unknown said:
Please can a MOD delete this thread before it gets rediculously out of control.
Regards and appreciation
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user.unknown said:
Again, MOD please delete and apologies for the offer
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Just because you said the word "MOD", doesn't mean I'll find your post or thread.
Please use the "Report Post" button found on every post. It will then notify me or the other assigned moderators to your post.
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EDIT: Grant Barkers ROM list will be added to the Sticky Post in the Development Section
Cheers Grant