root privilage: is really nice to have? - Wildfire General

Hi guys!
Can you please explain me why to get root privilage to the Wildfire? What can I will do with that privilage? Any cons?

Yeah... I also read so many guides about root privileges but I still can't understand exactly if it is good to have it or not...
Someone could explain to noobs like us exactly what is it for?
Thank you!

kalitros said:
Yeah... I also read so many guides about root privileges but I still can't understand exactly if it is good to have it or not...
Someone could explain to noobs like us exactly what is it for?
Thank you!
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I dont know exactly, but its for "enabling" you to do stuff that HTC dont want you too/they think is risky. For example, overclocking need root to work, and overclocking can damage your phone, and why would HTC want that? And other stuff like Market enabled for countries that arent allowed to have payed apps.
You basicly do what your not allowed too, I think. Experts, correct me if im wrong

Normaly it is good to have root access, altough a normal user doesn't gain anny profit from rooting it. But with root access you can, by example:
- install certain applications that need to place/modify files deep in your phone, like vpn connections, certain backup programs,..
- gain access to the international market
- install a different ROM. In case you don't know it (and forgive me if you do), a rom is the OS of your phone. Istalling a different ROM is like installing windows 7 on a computer that has windows vista
- ...
So you can custemize your phone as you would like it, and chance anything thats on it. The only problem (apart from the risk you are taking, like locking yourself out), is that you loose your product waranty..
In principle you should be able to unroot you phone, but i'm still wondering if you can make the phone dutch again (the language i bought it in), and if they realy can't notice that the phone has been rooted. So if you guys know the answer to that question, i'lld be happy to hear it ;-)
Hope that i'm a bit right, i'm for shure not an expert myself..
Erwin

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[Q] Does rooting change the appearance ofmy phone in any way

HI Guys,
Im a bit of a newbie on the rotting front.
Ive done some reading up on rooting that seems pritty simple and i get what it does BUT if i root my phone will it change its appreance in any way or the way it works by default if i dont change any thing. As the only reason i want to root my phone is to get rid of the ****ty apps that come on it.
also if i root it can i update to gingerbread?
All answers welcome
clenchy said:
HI Guys,
Im a bit of a newbie on the rotting front.
Ive done some reading up on rooting that seems pritty simple and i get what it does BUT if i root my phone will it change its appreance in any way or the way it works by default if i dont change any thing. As the only reason i want to root my phone is to get rid of the ****ty apps that come on it.
also if i root it can i update to gingerbread?
All answers welcome
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see....this is a very common asked question,
if you root your phone by propc method Link, it will give you a gingerbread theme.
but if you root your phone directly, then you will have same appearance, only there will be a Super User Permission app.
and you asked about gingerbread ROM, you wont get it now.
bcoz there is no custom ROM for it. developers are working hard to get it. so you need to wait for some time.
rooting is absolutely safe if you follow each step carefully.
i will recommend you to use this guide. Link
hope you succeed!

Problems with the root!

Hi, my phone now is working and all ( the is it bricked post) Thanks guys
Here is the new problem...I would like to go to 2.2.1 ( the passimg.zip is 2.2) is there a way to update without unlocking bootloader.
I tried Androot and superoneclick....Androot gives me the Fugu message and SuperOneClick says its Rooted...but when I go to rom manager or other apps that need superuser...
I get this message : An error occured while attemting to run privileged commands!
So basically Root isn't working.
Also, when trying to install Cyan cm6...Rom manager reboots...but I get the Triangle with the exclamation point with the green man next to it...
Is it still possible to have my cake and eat it? ( locked phone, with root access so I can install modded roms)
Again...can someone help me with this
Thanks!
You didn't have to make a duplicate post. I already answered one of your questions in the other thread.
Dont make another post next time...
I rooted FRG83D with superoneclick root, But if its not working for ya you will have to unlock the bootloader via fastboot. Then push a custom recovery. With the recovery you can install the su binaries.
Manual root:
http://www.nexusoneforum.net/forum/...mple-sdk-setup-manual-root-guide-windows.html
Sent from my Nexus One using XDA App
Ok i'll only answer here now for this question:
I don't want to loose my warranty. Hence the softroot way.
I thought of something dunno if its possible:
is there a stock FRG83 image like the FRG33 I just installed....maybe 2.2.1 will be compatible with androot or superoneclick
Thanks
You need to do a few things before you go any further. There are key steps you are leaving out that are just a recipe for disaster. I'll detail them below, in the specific order you should follow them. There shall be no deviation from this list.
1 - Put your phone down. Seriously, stop messing with it. Just quit.
2 - Read the Wiki that you've been linked to, in both threads, several times.
2a - Now that you've read the Wiki, really read the Wiki. Yeah, you skimmed it the first time, I know you did.
2b - Now go read it again. I'm sure you'll notice something new this time.
2c - Now go read the links in the Wiki. Explore those threads.
2d - Those threads that the Wiki links to? They have links in them. Go read those.
3 - Rinse and repeat all steps from 2a to 2d for, oh, about 4 days. During this time you are allowed:
To post general chit chat on the forum. No technical stuff, no help threads, no questions. Just read. If you have questions, you need to read some more.
No more than 3 app installs per day, from the market. Thou shalt not download and install any APKs from any source that is not the Android Market.
To tweak settings on your phone, provided those settings are all done via the touchscreen on your phone. You shall forget the acronym "ADB".
Once you've done that, you'll root your phone in no time, and you won't be worried that you've bricked it. Then, and only then, can you start asking questions.
Why? Because all of your questions right now are answered. You're jumping the gun, and it's obvious you haven't done much research at all. Seriously, go read.
I hate to be mean, but if you want to understand stuff, you need to try and understand it on your own first. You're here looking for solutions (that are already spelled out) to problems that you created (because you didn't read anything). Quit looking for the easy way out. If you want to enjoy your phone and the features of what you're trying to accomplish...put some work in yourself, and stop expecting everyone else to fix everything and spell it out. People here are more than happy to help, but you gotta start helping yourself.
@Soberguy: Thumbs up to you. Couldn't have said it any better.
musashiken said:
@Soberguy: Thumbs up to you. Couldn't have said it any better.
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Thanks, mate. Didn't mean to quote the guy above me, just noticed I did that. Fixed it.
I'm amazed at the patience some folks have. Maybe it was my rough 3 day weekend that's left me a bit short... Appreciate the thanks, all the same.
Ok, I do go a bit fast.
I'll read...it just that I tried the cm7 mod ( i know its experimental) and the phone
would'nt boot.
With the help of the great people on the board, I got my phone working again but on FRG33 (2.2)
My last question was if it was possible ( or someone knows of because Ive checked the net) to root without unlocking ( androot and superoneclick that i know of) if I have FRG33 ( Because Ive been getting permission errors)
Finally, I wanted to know if a FRG83 stock image was available so that I could recover to it without unlocking bootloader. (or any other stock that lets me root without unlock)
I'll unlock the phone as a last option...I'm sorry...And if anyone is pissed at my posts ...well sorry I just taught some of you experts could help.
pooky2010 said:
Ok, I do go a bit fast.
I'll unlock the phone as a last option...I'm sorry...And if anyone is pissed at my posts ...well sorry I just taught some of you experts could help.
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See? Looking for the easy way out again.
It's not about anyone being pissed or short on patience. Look at how frustrated you are with the situation. You're frustrated. Why? Cause you did it wrong. Why? Cause you didn't read enough first. Even after several suggestions, you still want it done, with help, right now, or you'll sulk about someone pissed and how no one held your hand through it.
Is it possible to do what you want? Absolutely! Pretty easy, too. But if you read and help yourself, you'll better understand how to update in the future, as well as how to root the future update. Or, you'll learn how to root what you have, and flash a pre-rooted stock ROM (yes, those are here as well).
So call me an ass, cool. You did in your mind, that's fine. But really, I'm trying to let you know what will help you the most, and that's having a better understanding of how to prevent a boot loop in the future, or at least how to fix it if it happens. Best of luck, man.
Sent from my Sexy Nexy, courtesy of the fine developers of Tapatalk
Here's the deal.
I did a one click root without unlocking the bootloader. Then I installed rom manager and flashed clockwork recovery. Then I did a backup ( both done in rom manager) then I went back into rom manager and installed cyanogenmod 7 and my nexus is now haxored gingerbread. Make sure you do a full wipe before flashing new roms and it'll always work.
I didn't update my radio, my hboot or anything like that. And it all just works and is dead simple. I would suggest trying z4root or universal androot and then downloading rom manager from the market.
How you managed to **** up something so simple is pretty funny dude.
I'm using an at&t band n1 with an smiled. Not the one with super LCD. I heard a rumor that the super LCD n1s have problems with certain mods. You might want to figure out what type of screen you have too.
The cyanogenmod wiki at cyanogenmod.com might help you too.
Sent from my Nexus One using Tapatalk
OP, you have to learn the hard way. Stop using "newbie" as an excuse.
I was also a "newbie" when I first got my Nexus One in February. Everything about android was new and alien to me. It actually took me a couple of months of lurking in xda and reading up on tutorials before I took the plunge to rooting my phone. And I did not bother anyone on that. I made sure I understood the steps and triple checked every move I made in following instructions even though I did not understand them.
I also was worried about warranty and actually did the manual way of rooting my phone without unlocking the bootloader using some method that involved cutting a piece of plastic from my battery. That was nerve wrecking and no where as simple as the superoneclick thingy you have now. Yet I survived and I did it on my own.
I must admit that you have to be a little bit confident in using computers and have some basic knowledge of typing commands in cmd. But everyone has to start from somewhere.
Seriously if it's too much trouble or too complicated, maybe staying stock or going Iphone is a more comfortable alternative.
I'm actually pretty good with computers...
Also, I have bricked 4 phones (the provider took them back) fooling around...
I could brought this one back ( they didnt check). But I want to learn...I'm pretty impulsif...Anyway so far
With FRG33 z4root works (read thanks)
Now I trying to flash clockwork...( when I download cyan 6 +google apps) it reboots but I get the triangle thingy...I click power volume up ( read that thanks) I get a blue menu...I kinda scared to click an option so I rebooted...I'm trying to use rom manager for updates because its really simple ...anyway
Thats it for tonight All of you guys are nice dudes and I'll learn and will try to help im my own way...I know I'm a newbie that likes short cuts (hell I read all day at my day job...lol) This is fun ( playing with male toys)
Thanks guys!

[Q] Firmware Update ?

So, I'd like to upgrade my HTC Wildfires firmware to the latest one (not sure whether its 2.2 or 2.3 atm) and I'd like to do it via PC, connected with USB cable... How do I do it, what should I download, etc... I'm a complete newbie when it comes to stuff like this so any kind of guidance would be highly appreciated.
connect to wifi and ask yourself if you are sure you do not want to root or flash a custom rom. if the anser is no go to menu > settings > about phone > software updates > check now then follow the on screen prompts
IF YOU DO THIS YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO ROOT
WHEN THE UPDATE IS INSTALLING DONT DO ANYTHING STUPID (E.G. REMOVE THE BATTERY. YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT HAPPENS TO YOUR DEVICE
As the previous post said: IF YOU DO THIS YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO ROOT YOUR PHONE.
Unless you know why you want to 'upgrade' via this route I would highly recommend not doing it.
There are already Froyo (2.2) and Gingerbread (2.3) ROMs available in the forums immediately that can only be installed on a rooted device. YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO DO THIS IF YOU UPGRADE THE WAY YOU ARE SUGGESTING, IE. THERE IS NO GOING BACK IF YOU UPGRADE THE WAY YOU ARE SUGGESTING. YOU WILL NO LONGER BE ABLE TO ROOT YOUR PHONE.
Apologies for the shouting but you really should understand what you will be missing out on if you can't root your phone.
Sent from my GT-P1000 using XDA App
Okay, so, how can I root my device, what is rooting it good for and after I root it, how do I install the ROMs ? (sorry for all the questions, I'm really a noob when it comes to stuff like this)
zaxrider said:
Okay, so, how can I root my device, what is rooting it good for and after I root it, how do I install the ROMs ? (sorry for all the questions, I'm really a noob when it comes to stuff like this)
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Just read this thread, completely:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=824396
Must've been blind not to notice that thread... Anyway, already got CM7 on my Wildfire, thanks !

[Newbie here] How to unlock phone

hi there,
I'm new to this board and new to this kind of stuff. I got a new HTC Desire HD which is unlocked to fkin T-mobile. So I wanna unlock it, but if possible for free. And no, T-mobile does not give them for free, they charge me 15 GBP -.-
Is there any good tutorial that can help me out? And also, what does "rooting" a phone mean?
cheers
Hi Anti_simlock
Anti_simlock said:
hi there,
I'm new to this board and new to this kind of stuff. I got a new HTC Desire HD which is unlocked to fkin T-mobile. So I wanna unlock it, but if possible for free. And no, T-mobile does not give them for free, they charge me 15 GBP -.-
Is there any good tutorial that can help me out? And also, what does "rooting" a phone mean?
cheers
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I think you must mean it Locked to T-Mobil.
Root is what you might know as being or having Administrator [Permissions] on a M$ OS. [Microsoft Operating System]
So having Root lets you take control of the Rom which is a Android OS, and gives you the choice of which Rom you chose to install on your Device.
Here is a link to the main links about [Rooting your DHD] you should have a good read:- DHD Development Sticky Roll-Up Thread
PS: Rooting a device can also give the added bonus of unlocking it. [for free]
Take Care
TheQuest
Hey,
I've only recently just sorted my T-Mobile DHD out, by that I mean I've rooted mine, which was locked to the network at first. To root it i had to follow certain steps, which i will mention below. Just before i tell you though, if there is a chance anything could go wrong its not on my back so do it at your own will ...
The download link is within the link below named as r14 if you were wondering:
http://android.modaco.com/content/h...m/320722/19-nov-r14-visionary-one-click-root/
If you need help with what to exactly do with visionary just watch the tutorial in the next link, which i found has everything in you really need to know:
http://hemorrdroids.net/how-to-root-s-off-and-install-custom-roms-on-the-desire-hd/
I don't exactly know if you will need this but i done it to be on the safe side.
Its a tutorial on setting up a goldcard, which i heard from the tutorial i watched was needed for phones locked to a network, don't see what use it did really but still, just in case!
http://theunlockr.com/2010/03/10/how-to-create-a-goldcard/
Another one here just for a bit more advise on the goldcard!
http://android.modaco.com/content/general-discussion/305672/creating-a-goldcard/
I'm currently using MIUI & i followed all the procedures on here and its working like a charm but with only one bug but i think that may be my doing. Everytime the battery runs out it just goes to the HBOOT screen but comes on randomly, thats only when i let the battery drain fully so if you want just give all this a try!
Aidanio said:
Hey,
I've only recently just sorted my T-Mobile DHD out, by that I mean I've rooted mine, which was locked to the network at first. To root it i had to follow certain steps, which i will mention below. Just before i tell you though, if there is a chance anything could go wrong its not on my back so do it at your own will ...
The download link is within the link below named as r14 if you were wondering:
http://android.modaco.com/content/h...m/320722/19-nov-r14-visionary-one-click-root/
If you need help with what to exactly do with visionary just watch the tutorial in the next link, which i found has everything in you really need to know:
http://hemorrdroids.net/how-to-root-s-off-and-install-custom-roms-on-the-desire-hd/
I don't exactly know if you will need this but i done it to be on the safe side.
Its a tutorial on setting up a goldcard, which i heard from the tutorial i watched was needed for phones locked to a network, don't see what use it did really but still, just in case!
http://theunlockr.com/2010/03/10/how-to-create-a-goldcard/
Another one here just for a bit more advise on the goldcard!
http://android.modaco.com/content/general-discussion/305672/creating-a-goldcard/
I'm currently using MIUI & i followed all the procedures on here and its working like a charm but with only one bug but i think that may be my doing. Everytime the battery runs out it just goes to the HBOOT screen but comes on randomly, thats only when i let the battery drain fully so if you want just give all this a try!
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It is said there is a danger of reducing the battery life if it is continuously left to Drain Fully.
Take Care
TheQuest
Great help guys Everything I need!
Now, I have found one sticky thread which is apparently good for starters.click
Seems pretty easy right? ^^
Ok, first question, is there some "master-backup" so in case anything goes wrong, I can back it up, to factory settings?
Also, if I do this rooting, can I continue installing normal updates (for example, HTC Sense or Android OS)? And will it have any (negative) impact on the performance of my phone?
many thanks to you lot
btw: yes, I meant locked, not unlocked lol
€: Important Question! I have read several times, that rooting does not unlock your phone and apologies if I have used the wrong terms, but by unlocking a phone, I mean, getting the simlock opened, and not enabling the admin user power. Well?

A Newbie needs Help?

Hi Guys,ive had my A500 for a couple of weeks now and i love it -------- im a Tablet/Computer DUMMY, can you PLEASE tell me what is "ROOTING" ?
I ask as ive read a lot about it on here and wonder if i should do it.
I will give you a different view then some I would imagine. My answer is do not bother with "Rooting".
In short, it gives you access to the files you would not normally see or need on a normal usage basis.
I would suggest you continue to use the A500 as is with out rooting it until you either find the device simply does not function as you want, or you continue to read the threads and decide you wish to try it out.
Having said that and is found in another thread simply rooting is not dangerous. But, I would say if you are new to computers/tablets that little value would be added to your experience so simply enjoy your A500.
Thankyou for your reply
install a file manger from market
install the apk from the list in this link
if you are on 3.1 install version 1.3
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1138228
once you downloade the file click and install the apk from you file manager
install acer recover installer from market
open the app and click install recovery rom 1.3 thor something
reboot to recovery and install what ever rom you like
Rooting grants you access to system files you would not normally have access to.
If you don't know what it is, or don't know what the risks are, I wouldn't recommend doing it ... But I can't stop you from rooting
Sent from my HTC Wildfire S A510e
rooting
This gives you access to operation system files. Rooting your device is a must to get access to advance setting and change the way your tablet functions. First some reasons to not root
1.you avoid your warranty
2.you make your system easily available for mistakes to cause it to no longer being usable.
reasons average users root
1.can install advance control apps
2.can do complete backups thou not really need if you are not root access
3.hacks like the Netflix fix.adding ad-hoc support for tethering to phone
DO NOT ROOT UNTIL YOU DONT HAVE TO ASK THERR SIMPLE QUESTIONS
With that said all the answers are here in this forum.thanks to all the wonderful developers and advanced users.
Good luck. Empower yourself for a better android experience.
The blonde geeky chic
Thanks Guys and Gals----------think i wont bother at the moment,i will just spend more time learning about my Tablet!
cyberma007 said:
install a file manger from market
install the apk from the list in this link
if you are on 3.1 install version 1.3
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1138228
once you downloade the file click and install the apk from you file manager
install acer recover installer from market
open the app and click install recovery rom 1.3 thor something
reboot to recovery and install what ever rom you like
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What are you talking about? You should read the question & previous comments before you go & post up a how-to..
But if he want to do it, this would help
I am sure sooner or latter he will!
I don't want to be mean or anything, but your "tutorial" is kind of hard to understand ... And there already are thousands of tutorials on how to root.
Sent from my HTC Wildfire S running a custom rom made of Rainbows, Unicorn Hair, and Pixie Dust.
Oh dear im sorry if ive upset people it was not my intention---------------
BUT thankyou for the "HOW TO " Im a newbie as i said and needing as much help as i can get with my A500 and yes im sure as i learn more i will want to "Root"
the merits of the root
For me, the root brought netflix, not sure if there is a way to get it yet without root. Yep, use my tab with netflix while i run my 5 miles in the gym (ok i walk most of the way, enough to see an entire movie, or email or whatnot. Worth the price of the tab right there.
leiko49 said:
For me, the root brought netflix, not sure if there is a way to get it yet without root. Yep, use my tab with netflix while i run my 5 miles in the gym (ok i walk most of the way, enough to see an entire movie, or email or whatnot. Worth the price of the tab right there.
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Not the only thing that a root can do
Sent from my magical HTC Wildfire S.
While I am not a dev, I have spent a great many years around *nix systems. Rooting, in itself, is not difficult nor dangerous. The danger is in the new abilities to modify system parameters which should be left alone by those without sufficient knowledge. Acer has provided a utility to allow for system restore and some backup abilities which should be sufficient for most new users. With android, as with any OS, knowledge is power. I usually suggest new users gain knowledge about the system before tampering with root.
I am new to the acer community but some of you may have seen me on the nook color or huawei s7 forums and I am starting development work on the webos forums. As I said before, I am not a dev (yet) but I believe everyone should understand a concept before blindly rushing into the fray.
I will get off my soapbox now and go play. Enjoy your new acer...
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