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WM6.5 on Hero

So Android is being ported to WM handsets... is the opposite possible?
I really dig my Hero, and Android is nice, but hands down, I will take HTC Sense 2.5 on WM6.5, 10 times out of 10.
Arent the guts of the Hero and the TP2 very similar... this should not be that hard for the XDA fam, right?

Sorry to burst your bubble, but nobody here really wants it bad enough to put forth the time and effort to port it. Many of us see WM 6.5 as the inferior platform that it is (compared to Android), and it doesn't seem worth it to a lot of people. Another thing is, WM isn't open source like Android, so it would probably be even harder to get working. Sorry mang

blaineball said:
So Android is being ported to WM handsets... is the opposite possible?
I really dig my Hero, and Android is nice, but hands down, I will take HTC Sense 2.5 on WM6.5, 10 times out of 10.
Arent the guts of the Hero and the TP2 very similar... this should not be that hard for the XDA fam, right?
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Most likely NO, why? time to port all the different drivers , UIs etc. and another reason...is WHY?? WinMo is a piece of sh#@ that is why we are using Android based phones

I love some of the apps on WM 6.5, but it's SO dead to me. I don't ever want to see it ever again, as long as I live.
To answer your question, I doubt it will EVER happen. Ever. The reason being is that drivers would have to be written from scratch on lots of the hardware. There would have to be a bootloader modification too in order to actually load the WM image, which I'm not sure how that could be accomplished without a tremendous amount of work either.
Usually when the guts are similar (as you're right in TP2 and Hero) but the screen is definitely different, there's a trackball, what do you do with the hardware keys, etc. Lots of "behind the scenes" differences IMO.
You never know though, I always try not to say "never."

That would be going backwards, and tje 6.5 ui is aweful ugly with the ugly menu buttons on the bottom. Ohhh dont forget about the lag issues

No, but you should be able to pick up a WM 6.5 phone coming soon to a dollar store near you.

I gotta say I made the switch to android because I was able to boot android on my Touch but going from android to winmo is simply insane...
Why dont you buy a TP2 and use the android build thats out, my friend got it up an running and is now saving for a hero or supersonic. I used to swear by winmo even when the gayphone came out but Android ****s on Winmo 6.5 EVERYDAY

People are replacing WM6.5 with Android for a reason.
Only a fool would go the other way.

This may just be the craziest thing that I have ever read.

I think its safe to say most us here came from winmo, I also think its safe to say after about a day or less we said,"im never goin back to winmo." Im pretty sure everyone meant it too. the winmo guys are still sayin
That their waiting to switch because android is still new and not polished enough lol I was sayin it too lol but I was wrong as hell hence why im here

It would be an interesting endeavor, but as others have said you would probably have trouble finding someone with the technical knowledge who cares to do so. Most android users have experienced WM, but most WM users haven't experienced android. I think what will be interesting is when WP7S comes out, then you might see people trying to get that on our phones.
But really why should anyone want to port WM6.5 on to android phones? For the same reason many hacking projects start: just to see if we can

There's a major reason Android can run almost anywhere whereas WinMo is basically trapped on the devices it was originally developed for:
Source code
The marketplace is finally beginning to understand the power of that distinction.

I understand the questioning since they are porting Android to WinMo phones.. but did you ever stop to think that the reason they're doing that is to get rid of WinMo? Why in the world would you want to put WinMo in place of Android?

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There's a major reason Android can run almost anywhere whereas WinMo is basically trapped on the devices it was originally developed for:
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The marketplace is finally beginning to understand the power of that distinction.
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that is a great point, didn't think about that.

surrealbliss said:
I understand the questioning since they are porting Android to WinMo phones.. but did you ever stop to think that the reason they're doing that is to get rid of WinMo? Why in the world would you want to put WinMo in place of Android?
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they are not doing it to get rid of winmo, its just one of those things thats cool to have, just like any other app.if us winmo users wanted android, we would buy android, i mean why would you go with just android when you could go winmo and have both? it not perfect yet but it is getting better. and standard android is so ugly to me, it just looks so simple{as does standard winmo} without sense ui.but sense on winmo just looks alot better than android sense. just my 2 cents.....

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There's a major reason Android can run almost anywhere whereas WinMo is basically trapped on the devices it was originally developed for:
Source code
The marketplace is finally beginning to understand the power of that distinction.
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If source code had anything to do with it, BlackBerry and the iPhone wouldn't be so popular.
Android is overtaking WM because it's a better, more consumer-friendly OS with more, better apps.

gthing said:
No, but you should be able to pick up a WM 6.5 phone coming soon to a dollar store near you.
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lawl!

jonnythan said:
If source code had anything to do with it, BlackBerry and the iPhone wouldn't be so popular.
Android is overtaking WM because it's a better, more consumer-friendly OS with more, better apps.
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Truer words have not been spoken regarding why we all left winmo

i think if a dev wanted to he could port wm to the hero or any android phone. but as others i came from webos & winmo and android is by far the best os ive ever used. i also think wm7 will be a huge fail as android is close to dominating the market share right now. i know what im sticking with!

android is close to beating apple, winmo and palm. it has them all running scared right now, that's why apple is suing htc.

am i going mad? jumping ship

hey all,
ive had my Hd2 for about 6 months and I'm thinking of getting rid of it for a N1 or a Desire. i mean is this a smart move?
my main reason is the lack if apps for the hd2 is pathetic and most are in the old skool windows mobile interface, which looks crap to the likes of the sense ui.
im also finding the slowdowns in win mo are driving me bonkers. for a high spec phone im not impressed.
course being that i have to lay down the best part of 400-600 pounds to get the forementioned phones id like the communities help. im tempted for a google N1 as the updates are more regular, but the sense UI on the hd2 i find really nice. so what would you guys say is the betterof the two? and would you get one over the hd2
thanks,
Luke

oh no... another one of those...
how the hell should we know?? vast majority of us in these parts of the forum have hd2, so isn't it better to ask those questions on android boards?
geez... how many threads like this do we need?

Im with mr. bronx on this one...

surely the HD2 community are the people to ask, as you've stayed with HD2, you'll be the most wise as to why not to get the android, and/or why you stayed with the HD2 over the new androids?

diablous said:
surely the HD2 community are the people to ask, as you've stayed with HD2, you'll be the most wise as to why not to get the android, and/or why you stayed with the HD2 over the new androids?
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To be brutally honest, it is personal preference.
Every phone has it's issues.
Every operating system has it's issues.
Every owner has their issues with the above.

i have gone from the HD2 to the Desire and to honest for me anyway i find the desire and android a joy to use, dont get me wrong i still think the HD2 is a awesome phone but windows is a real pain sometimes.
im just hoping HTC gets us the android 2.2 update soon

android gets updates fast ,you will buy desire , and after one month android 2.2 is released ,and when upgrading officially to it ,android 3.0 will be released , android is not stable and very un mature os

hoss_n2 said:
android gets updates fast ,you will buy desire , and after one month android 2.2 is released ,and when upgrading officially to it ,android 3.0 will be released , android is not stable and very un mature os
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android is not stable? mine hasnt let me down once since i got it, the update is adding features not fixing stability issues

sharpey said:
android is not stable? mine hasnt let me down once since i got it, the update is adding features not fixing stability issues
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you didnot understand me ,iam not talking about it ,iam talking about the version stability and the completness of features winmo
is updated nearly every two years and mainly skinning updates ,as it has alll features that a mobile could have but android gets update every 2-3 monthes , which adds new features to catch up other mature os

ahh got you now
but everyone seems really happy with 2.2 features and it has everything i had on the HD2.
like it was said above its just a personal preference thing.

Keep your HTC HD 2 android is on the way, either by dual boot, or being that of htc evo coming out, and actual rom.
The HTC HD 2 is the most powerfull device out there, and you can do whatever you want with it, no restrictions nothing, you can have a vast majority of operating systems.
Most can be ported thanks to the lovely people here at XDA.

sharpey said:
ahh got you now
but everyone seems really happy with 2.2 features and it has everything i had on the HD2.
like it was said above its just a personal preference thing.
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android 2.2 is the begining for the android to be mature ,but after 3 monthes , google announces the android 3.0 will be avaliable in q4 ,may be then it will be a better os than windows , with more options ,and specifications

ALEXRUSS55 said:
Keep your HTC HD 2 android is on the way, either by dual boot, or being that of htc evo coming out, and actual rom.
The HTC HD 2 is the most powerfull device out there, and you can do whatever you want with it, no restrictions nothing, you can have a vast majority of operating systems.
Most can be ported thanks to the lovely people here at XDA.
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An android port to the HD2 is not going to be like an android phone that came with android. It will be a long time before the port is as functional as an android phone. You're probably not going to want to use the android port full time as it will be a while before it uses all the hardware properly like bluetooth, wifi, camera, sound, etc. There could also be heating issues, battery issues, stabilty issues, etc. People seem to think that the evo rom will easily be ported over and it will be fully functional. It doesn't work like that. The touch pro's android port has been developed for over a year and it still isn't nearly as functional as a full android phone.
Don't get me wrong... I can't wait to be able to boot into android on my HD2, but I expect it to be over a year from now until it will be good enough to want to use full time instead of WinMo 6.5. HD2 is a WinMo phone, and thats the only os that it will run well for probably at least the next 6months to year. It may never run another os good enough to use full-time.

Do what your heat tells you. Just playing. Honestly, its all about what you need your phone to deliver for you.
My phone completes what I want and makes me happy. I sometimes feel the lack of apps but it is no big deal.
All I really use on a daily basis are Stocks, weather, music player, youtube app and web browser. You will obviously find more apps for android.
Personally, I dont need all those apps you find for android like optical illusions, weird sounds and bla bla bla. Sure I need an app like NBA Game Time similar to that of android but nothing that I desperately need.
I just hop on espn with skyfire or Opera 10 Mobile and Im good.
Android lacks quality games just like Windows Mobile but FPSEce helps a little my HD2.
My sisters own a Motorola Cliq and a Droid and nothing to major for me to want Android. Maybe If the developers from this site get a working android port I will be HAPPY.
Other than that, this phone fulfills my needs.
AGAIN, DO WHAT YOUR HEART SAYS.....LOL.
Don't allow others make your decision.

I bought my Misses an Iphone for christmas. The other day she was complaining it was running slow. I asked her when the last time she turned it off. " Turned it off" she said " i`ve never turned it off " just plugs it in at night to charge it up....Now thats a stable operating system.......
I love my HD2 by the way......

richie_jones said:
I bought my Misses an Iphone for christmas. The other day she was complaining it was running slow. I asked her when the last time she turned it off. " Turned it off" she said " i`ve never turned it off " just plugs it in at night to charge it up....Now thats a stable operating system.......
I love my HD2 by the way......
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I have to restart my HD2 at least once a day.

richie_jones said:
I bought my Misses an Iphone for christmas. The other day she was complaining it was running slow. I asked her when the last time she turned it off. " Turned it off" she said " i`ve never turned it off " just plugs it in at night to charge it up....Now thats a stable operating system.......
I love my HD2 by the way......
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I've not rebooted my HD2 for at least 3 weeks, and I think that was due to a tweak in BsBtweaks needing a restart to take effect.
I can put you in touch with several people who have had iphones that lock up and become unresponsive more than once a week if you want?
Complexity will always have instability.

HD2 is much more sexy than ANY other phone on the market around imo..
Besides, they are working on Android for the HD2.. And making some good progress lately..
Nothing better than a phone that could eventually even dualboot .
If you want games and apps to play about with/be cool with around your mates, get an iPhone or another type that most 'mainstream' users have.

Update on Android on HD2 - New Article

Hey all,
I have been waiting for news on this and it has been May since there has been any word on the Android OS being able to run on HD2s. Supposedly they have gotten over most of the major conflicts with this anticipated pairing. Check out some of the information from this article below:
Title:
HTC HD2 Android Port Makes Strides, Nears Release [Community Overcomes Problems Plauging HTC HD2 Android Port, Hopes to Have Public Release Available Soon[
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With Windows Mobile dying a slow and painful death, Windows Phone 7 right around the corner and Android gaining a considerable portion of the smartphone marketshare along with buzz, the HTC HD2 remains a device lingering in limbo, begging for some attention. Regarded as one of the best Windows Mobile 6.5 powered handsets with a 4.3-inch capacitive display, 1GHz Qualcomm Snapdragon processor, 576MB of RAM, a 5 megapixel camera, microSDHC slot and WiFi/Bluetooth/GPS/3G the HTC HD2 lacks no where in terms of hardware, but arguably everywhere in terms of software.
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Apparantly, the port was plagued with problems regarding the HD2′s processor along with the Linux boot tool dubbed HaRET that would be used to actually make the Android port. Luckily, those problems have been overcome giving the HTC HD2 Android port the much needed kick to near public availability. Be sure to check back soon as we track the port’s progress.
If/when this port is made available, will all of you HD2 owners out there make the jump from Windows Mobile to Android? If not, why?
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Article from - Nexus404.com
I am not sure how true this is but hopefully it does come out soon cause i do miss my Android OS. Let me know how you guys feel about the article if you want to search for it.
I also have heard that someone actually has a working Windows Mobile 7 on a HD2, its in the development stage, can someone post on that if they know more. I am hoping for a dual boot so I can use both and have the best of both worlds.
Later,
AndroidWindows
T-Mo HD2 6.5
Energy GTX Rom

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=651632

android fake app
hey theres a pretty cheezy app in the omarket that looks like android its basicly like the sbpshell i guess but its kinda cool to mess around with =) and i cant wait for andriod i check up on it every day haha i hate this winmo 6.5 crap

Keep in mind we are still a long way from a fully functional port that you would actually want to replace winmo with. I wouldn't expect a fully working port that can actually use most of the hardware (bluetooth, wifi, gps, camera, etc.) and that works like an actual android phone for at least a year... and I would consider that fast development. Look at all the other ports for other winmo phones... none of them are fully functional yet... they all have missing parts and bugs. Great progress has been made in the last week for the hd2, but theres still a long way to go.

guess if you could do a dual boot with windows and android..would that make it the first hybrid OS? maybe call it WinDroid..or has that already been coined?

check out the twitter page where they posted a pic of the hd2 running ubuntu
twitter. com/htc_linux

fusion06 said:
guess if you could do a dual boot with windows and android..would that make it the first hybrid OS? maybe call it WinDroid..or has that already been coined?
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There are several other WinMo phones that can boot into android... this isn't the first winmo device there working on this for. That's how we pretty much know what to expect with the port and how it will take a long time to get it fully functional... They'e been porting android to winmo devices for years... even before there was an android device released.... but not one port is fully functional yet like a dedicated android phone. These android ports are fun to play with and if theres specific apps you want to use its nice to be able to boot into android... but they usually aren't good enough to replace winmo as your daily phone os for a long time. So don't expect your HD2 to become as functional as an EVO or any other android phone anytime soon.

zarathustrax said:
Keep in mind we are still a long way from a fully functional port that you would actually want to replace winmo with. I wouldn't expect a fully working port that can actually use most of the hardware (bluetooth, wifi, gps, camera, etc.) and that works like an actual android phone for at least a year... and I would consider that fast development. Look at all the other ports for other winmo phones... none of them are fully functional yet... they all have missing parts and bugs. Great progress has been made in the last week for the hd2, but theres still a long way to go.
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Who can tell whether the android port for HTC HD2 is also valid on my t-mobile HD2.
I know the work is in progress but want to check it first, since I have an offer to exchange for a HTC HD2 currently.
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Titicaca said:
Who can tell whether the android port for HTC HD2 is also valid on my t-mobile HD2.
THX
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IT works on TMoUS HD2 the same as EU HD2
they work just the same

zarathustrax said:
There are several other WinMo phones that can boot into android... this isn't the first winmo device there working on this for. That's how we pretty much know what to expect with the port and how it will take a long time to get it fully functional... They'e been porting android to winmo devices for years... even before there was an android device released.... but not one port is fully functional yet like a dedicated android phone. These android ports are fun to play with and if theres specific apps you want to use its nice to be able to boot into android... but they usually aren't good enough to replace winmo as your daily phone os for a long time. So don't expect your HD2 to become as functional as an EVO or any other android phone anytime soon.
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Wow if I knew this I wouldnt have gotten one. Guess I should have done more research..

i hate windows, i cannot wait for an android os for the hd2, if the android os wasnt in the works i never would have bought the hd2. i appreciate all of your hardwork on this project, youre all great, and if i could i would donate thousands to the cause. but im a poor broke white boy, lol.

ClosetFreek said:
i hate windows, i cannot wait for an android os for the hd2, if the android os wasnt in the works i never would have bought the hd2. i appreciate all of your hardwork on this project, youre all great, and if i could i would donate thousands to the cause. but im a poor broke white boy, lol.
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Like I said earlier... the android port is not going to be as good as an android phone. Your not going to want to use it full time and replace windows with it for at least a year. You shouldn't have gotten a HD2 if you don't like winmo, because thats the only os that will run well on the phone for a long time. The android port will be nice to play with, but its going to be very buggy and not very functional for a long time. Look at the android ports for the other winmo phones... and they've been under development for years.

I don't know about that...I've used the port on both the Touch Pro and the Touch Pro 2 and both are REALLY good. Really...the ONLY thing that stops me from using the TP2 port in everyday use is the "no external speaker". It's usually not a big deal durring work hrs since it's on vibrate all day anyway...but when im home and stuff gets loud...vibrate doesn't work for me. The only other things that don't work I believe are camera, bt, and gps(which KIND of works). None of those 3 would stop me from using a phone every day. The Android port for the TP2 is blazing fast compared to other devices with the same processor(i.e. g1/mytouch) and offers you that beautiful wvga resolution(480x800). if and when the HD2 gets to that point...i'd use WM durring the day for work, and Android by night lol

Is triple booting possible?

I thuroughly enjoy the freedom that the HD2 allows us. If you know how to us WM propperly,there isn't anything that this hardware can't handle. Adding the ability to boot into Android, or WP7 for that matter,is simply an added bonus. Will I install it on my phone? Of course. There isn't much that I haven't installed on my phone. But did I buy this in hopes of a port to another OS? No. I would have bought a phone that came with said OS if I needed that.
Thank you to all the developers who have worked tirelessly to make our phones so much fun. Keep doing what you do for those of us who can't.

^i agree wholeheartedly. I bought this phone after having a G1 and before that having a Wing, MDA and SDA. I am used to WinMo and Android and though I love Android, I can't say I'm dissatisfied with WinMo at all. I love the freedom to flash roms and all the different sorts of customization options I've got. If Android is what you want, I'd say don't get the HD2 from the start.

Speaking of Win 7 I hope the developers are working on it for the HD2. Rumor was that it will not be able to run on it.

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I thuroughly enjoy the freedom that the HD2 allows us. If you know how to us WM propperly,there isn't anything that this hardware can't handle. Adding the ability to boot into Android, or WP7 for that matter,is simply an added bonus. Will I install it on my phone? Of course. There isn't much that I haven't installed on my phone. But did I buy this in hopes of a port to another OS? No. I would have bought a phone that came with said OS if I needed that.
Thank you to all the developers who have worked tirelessly to make our phones so much fun. Keep doing what you do for those of us who can't.
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+1! Very well said!

zarathustrax said:
Keep in mind we are still a long way from a fully functional port that you would actually want to replace winmo with. I wouldn't expect a fully working port that can actually use most of the hardware (bluetooth, wifi, gps, camera, etc.) and that works like an actual android phone for at least a year... and I would consider that fast development. Look at all the other ports for other winmo phones... none of them are fully functional yet... they all have missing parts and bugs. Great progress has been made in the last week for the hd2, but theres still a long way to go.
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Why even bother if it is soo buggy and not fully functional? Just for fun? I don't get it if it is sooo far away from a fully functional port why is everyone so excited. Sorry but your statement makes me feel like this android port is a big waste of time. Im sure next time I get a new phone I will try out an ANDROID phone.

The reason we are excited is because it brings new life to our phones, it allows us the freedom of choice. I love Windows and I love Android and the prospect of getting WP7 makes me excited because I don't have to shell out money for a new phone when I have a phone that I love right here, to do whatever I want and make my phone what I want it to be. It isn't a waste of time, it is a huge step to the development for a Android port to an original Windows phone. Saying it's a huge waste of time is like saying cooked roms is a huge waste of time, it adds another spectrum to our devices allowing us to customize, mod, hack, and personalize as we please.
I just booted Android on my HD2 and I can not wait till it's stable and I can play around with it even more. I got to the Set Up Device screen and played with the menu ! I'll post a video soon!

HD2 or DESIRE - need your inputs on this one..

Hello xda folks, i'm currently using my beloved touch pro 2 but wanting to uupgrade to HD2 for a long time now, i was wondering what can you suggest, HD2 or Desire? i would also love to be able to boot for android, i could have gotten the evo 4 but i live in ASIA and there is no GSM version of it. Any inputs/ideas are greatly appreciated. Can the HD2 handle the daily use for android? Fell in love with the Big screen on HD2 but ive tried desire and it kicks *ss any idea or inputs will really help

you can dual boot android on hd2..its not completely finished and still has a few issues but been using it for day 3 now and no crash or problems

would you suggest hd2 over desire? ive heard of horror stories on the keypad for hd2, but im sure desire is just the same since there is no dedicated keyboard like tp2

personally i would wait for the HTC Desire HD (Ace) which should come out in mid september apparently...
i probably could guarantee you, you wont use WinMo alot as i dont if u dont like it you can always get the HD2 ;D its still a one of best phone even after 10 months from launch and will be for a long time.

There are so many of these threads popping up, just get a Desire and be done with it. The HD2 will never run Android as well as a native Android phone and most people looking for/ used to it just ***** and moan about WM 6.5/6.5.x.
Or as someone else mentioned, if you can wait, see what becomes of the Desire HD.
I personally would take Windows Mobile over Android at the moment, I love this hunk of junk OS we have, I really do.

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There are so many of these threads popping up, just get a Desire and be done with it. The HD2 will never run Android as well as a native Android phone and most people looking for/ used to it just ***** and moan about WM 6.5/6.5.x.
Or as someone else mentioned, if you can wait, see what becomes of the Desire HD.
I personally would take Windows Mobile over Android at the moment, I love this hunk of junk OS we have, I really do.
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I completely agree with this statement... If you want to use android full-time, get a native android phone. People keep thinking that just because they have an android port running on the HD2 that it will run as well as a phone designed for android, but look at the history of these android ports... it's nothing new getting android to run on a winmo phone. They have android running GREAT on the HD2, but it's still an unofficial port and will never run as well as a phone designed for android. The drivers aren't optimized and we don't have a giant companie's expensive developer's to to develop it. Not saying our devs aren't doing an excellent job, cause they are... but they don't have the time or resources HTC does.
Personally, I think the HD2 is the best phone out... but I still prefer WinMo. I also love android, and I love to be able to use android on my phone as well. It's awesome to have my powerful winmo phone that can also boot into android when I want. But I bought the phone for WinMo... if I was gonna use android most of the time, I would buy an android phone. The HD2 is never gonna run android as smoothly and as stable as a native android phone, and no one should realistically expect it to.

i was in the same boat,hd2 or desire i picked desire main reason was size of screen and the fact that one day it will have Android on it

HD2 with latest ROM looks amazing, runs amazing and is stable, the only reason id even consider Android is the app stores, there is no functional difference in my opinion and as such, if i were you, id choose by the hardware alone, all this WM bashing is BS, a decent ROM (i use Energy) works perfect. That said, im not bashing Android, im simply saying it doesnt offer anything new, its the same, except you can download hundreds more c**p in it.

at the end of the road?

It seems that android has come to an end for the HD2. There hasn't been major updates in a long time. Not just NAND but lets say the Light sensor hasn't been fixed in any clean froyo builds or random freezes and crashes. In regards to NAND, there hasn't been much activity going on with porting it. I wonder y? could it be that the project just got too old and boring or is it because windows phone 7? in any case it seems to me that this project is slowly coming to an end and only a few chefs are starting to realize it (shubCRAFT, Hyperdroid) are no longer supported (which is due to personal reasons too) i understand that. Im not angry or venting just confirming it. should I sell my [email protected] to get a My touch 4g or a g2? at this point it seems better than waiting for android to work.
I am not trying to anger anyone I just wanted to hear some thoughts.

Im using MDJ FroYo Sense Clean and its stable, fast and the battery drainage is really ok, so i dont think "android for hd2 comes to an end", but "android for hd2 becomes nearly perfect". Sure WP7 is here, so xda-chefs are working for first ROM for HD2 , but i don't think Android-Development is stopped completely

I don't think it will be at an end for years.... but they have done most of the major stuff they can do. I dont think nand is really working as well as they hoped it would... it sounds like it may be slower than sd card. They're still working on it, though. Bugs will continue to be worked on, too.
What more did you expect out of a port? They've done an amazing job. You can't expect it to be as stable and smooth as a native android phone. I always said if you want to use android full-time, you're better off with a native android phone. But what other phone can run winmo and android this well. And its the best winmo phone out there. And there's a possibility of running meego and wp7. Its gonna be my phone of choice for a long time still.
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Very well said. I will never sell this phone for the mere fact that I can dual boot and the GPS on this thing is amazing. Way better than my Samsung Captivate.
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Android on the hd2 is already better than I ever expected it to be, so I'm happy. I use winmo when I need the phone to be stable and for certain apps... then when I'm playing around or want to use certain android apps I can boot into android in less than a minute. What more could I want. If they were still developing winmo phones, I'd still buy winmo phones... most new winmo phones eventually run android good enough to use any apps you want to use.
People who say the hd2 runs android better than native android phones always compare it to android phones still running stock roms without tweaks. If you tweak and customize a native android phone, it runs way better than a hd2 ever will... that's why if I wanted android full-time I'd get a native phone.
But I love the many options and possibilities the hd2 offers... and I still like winmo and the way I can customize it. Android runs good enough for me on it.... and you can't run winmo on an android phone.
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I fully agree with you. But I'm tired from winmo. I want to feel something new. Something undiscovered for me. Its something like a new car. But I've already bought hd2 and i don't want another phone. I just want android without Linux. I just want a fully based android for my phone.. so, can i get it anywhere?
Sorry for my bad English.
Greetings from Russia
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Do you mean NAND (Android without WM-loading)? There isnt a ROM yet, but stay tuned

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Do you mean NAND (Android without WM-loading)? There isnt a ROM yet, but stay tuned
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One Guy just told me about HTCClays SuperHD2 that he founded forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=768768 and it runs with minimal screenfreezes and a great battery life.
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Im using MDJ Froyo Sense and i have NO freezes and battery drainage is about 1%/hour

I think it'll be a big mistake to sell your HD2. It is probably be the best and most versatile Windows Mobile device ever built. One device able to run Windows Mobile, Android and very soon Windows Phone 7.
I'm currently been using Mdeejay Evosense 2.3 with hastarin kernel 7.8 and the latest pop wrapper currently being tested. For me android is 99% perfect and I've not had to boot back to Windows mobile in more than 2 weeks. The thing with these android builds is that you've got to try several till you find one which works for you. I tried 7 different builds before finding my current one.
However, we are all different and so you have to decide for yourself. If you feel you can't handle the various issues that are still being worked the, the maybe you should sell your HD2 and get a native android. I personally won't do that.
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oh come on guys. Gingerbread is right around the corner. That will boost interest again. I started with the G1. Interest in it didn't die until i got the HD2. The main reason i got the HD2 is because the G1 couldn't run 2.2 very well. That has been a few months now and I'm sure they got things running well on it. Seriously and they said that the G1 wouldn't run 2.1!! The difference between G1 and HD2 TONS! I honestly dont think there will be anything that android releases that the HD2 wont be able to run.
Granted they have slowed down big time with the releases of android OS but thats a good thing. They were launching stuff so quickly it didn't give the devs time to make stuff rock solid.
I read today that the nexus 1 dev phones will have 2.3 (gingerbread) pushed to them next week! I'm ready bring it on! I know the devs here will tackle it asap.

I fail to see how it is anywhere near the end of the road. Android as it stands now is more stable for me than WinMo ever was. The only slight detractor is battery life which is still not bad at all, I get 20-22 hours straight out of my battery which is only slightly worse than I get with WinMo (about 26 hours).
The reason there's little in the way of amazing, groundbreaking advances in Android is because there's very little left to do. The latest kernels are fantastic, battery life has improved greatly, reliability is amazing now, there's very little left that doesn't work or breaks. I cannot remember the last time I've had a force close, screen of death or anything else terminal, and I no longer boot into windows at all.
Most of the chefs and devs here have things called "personal lives" that require time, and while there's little left to do they are spending time concentrating on themselves. Give it a few weeks/months until gingerbread comes along and the scene will pick up again. In the mean time feel free to get hold of the tools yourself and see what you can do?
If your Android doesn't work properly when I personally have installed Android on about 8 Hd2's for myself and my friends and they never have any complaints then you should investigate why, not give up and sell your phone. That's half the challenge!