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That's lame if true, but it could always be possible that Verizon is only counting the amount of RAM that's actually usable for applications, rather than the whole amount. On the Epic 4G I believe only 325 MB of RAM is used for applications, and the rest is reserved for the system.
phandroid.com/2010/08/27/leaked-samsung-fascinate-equipment-guide-gives-full-spec-run-down/
I think they are referring to 384mb that is usuable ram, since it's stated that there is 512mb total.
It definitely has 512 total. Maybe only 384 usable by eclair. Rest assure this will b just as awesome as the other galaxies. I've had D1, Dx DI, D2, Eris. And I'm using the captivate right now and it blows all of them away. Ill b taking back my captivate and getting the fascinate the day they are available BC att sucks ass. Tried them when my vzw ran out and that was a big mistake. U get what u pay for, and with Verizon that's the beat service in the united states. Can't wait for this phone
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There is 384M traditional DRAM and 128M OneDRAM in hummingbird SOC.
http://dev.odroid.com/wiki/odroid-t/pds/FrontPage/s_blockdiagram.jpg
Whats confusing is all the material related to the device seems to explicitly state that the Fascinate DOES have less on-board ram.
Verizon is the only one who officially mentioned the RAM in the specs.
So it's very likely all the galaxy s phones have the same RAM size.
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Whats confusing is all the material related to the device seems to explicitly state that the Fascinate DOES have less on-board ram.
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Are you planning on flipping to the Galaxy?
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Are you planning on flipping to the Galaxy?
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Yeah, Im pretty positive this will be my next personal device. I have confirmed it does indeed have less physical ram compared to the other Galaxy S phones. In spite of this, I will definitely be buying another one once it officially drops. I have been very happy with the fascinate the past couple days.
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Yeah, Im pretty positive this will be my next personal device. I have confirmed it does indeed have less physical ram compared to the other Galaxy S phones. In spite of this, I will definitely be buying another one once it officially drops. I have been very happy with the fascinate the past couple days.
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I'm a new user who is deeply interested in getting the samsung fascinate for verizon but i still have some doubts that maybe you could help me clear up.
A couple questions I would like answered if possible,
1.) You have confirmed it does have less physical ram, how was this? Are you sure its not 384RAM + 128OneDRAM = 512 total? Please go into detail if possible.
2.) "You have been very happy with the fascinate the past couple days" Does this mean you are currently testing it?
Thanks for any info!
Maybe it is all just a misunderstanding, and it really is just the formatted size, but they are pretty clear when they say 384 megs of ram, not 384 formatted. The other phones are mentioned as having 512. Its even said the fascinate is at a disadvantage. Look it up. I dont have anything to post and I am not a tester, no sorry. I meant ive been happy with its performance as a phone(Galaxy S) is all.
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Maybe it is all just a misunderstanding, and it really is just the formatted size, but they are pretty clear when they say 384 megs of ram, not 384 formatted. The other phones are mentioned as having 512. Its even said the fascinate is at a disadvantage. Look it up. I dont have anything to post and I am not a tester, no sorry. I meant ive been happy with its performance as a phone(Galaxy S) is all.
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Look, lets settle this here. Look at the picture and it says 512mb flash/384mb RAM. Compare that to explanations of RAM for other phone products. That's 512mb flash RAM with 128 used by......... VIDEO. Every computer without a dedicated video card says the same thing. Go look up video cards with dedicated memory and video cards with shared memory. Obviously Sammy's video cpu uses 128k or RAM and they bundle that with the actual RAM of 384 to say 512. But all Galaxy S have only 384k of Ram to use.
I don't think Samsung has ever officially revealed how much RAM the PowerVR SGX 540 uses, but looks like the cat is out of the bag now. No wonder this Video card is such a beast. I wish i could put it in my laptop.
Ok well I want a fascinate so I looked into this issue. I have a friend with a captivate so I downloaded android system info from the market as well as android hardware info. When looking at the max ram available on the captivate, which is documented at 512, the max available ram was 325. If the fascinate has 384 then we are at an advantage. I'm happy will someone with access to a vibrant test this. I will screen cap and post pics
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To the three posts above, THANK YOU SO MUCH. My god I have been waiting for a definitive answer the past week or so.
THANK YOU
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To the three posts above, THANK YOU SO MUCH. My god I have been waiting for a definitive answer the past week or so.
THANK YOU
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hardware wise, these phones are nearly identical. While its possible they would screw with the RAM, it's not likely considering how tightly the O.S. it integrated into it. The only phone that had a significant part of its Structure changed was the EPIC, which for some odd reason will only have 1 gig of internal FAST STORAGE. I don't think this will be a killer for the unit, but still odd.
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hardware wise, these phones are nearly identical. While its possible they would screw with the RAM, it's not likely considering how tightly the O.S. it integrated into it. The only phone that had a significant part of its Structure changed was the EPIC, which for some odd reason will only have 1 gig of internal FAST STORAGE. I don't think this will be a killer for the unit, but still odd.
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keep in mind too that the Fascinate is CDMA while the Vibrant and Captivate are GSM which are big hardware differences. Possibly one of the reasons why they have 16GB onboard memory and the Fascinate/Epic are only 2GB/1GB on board respectively.
http://www.droid-life.com/2010/08/30/samsung-fascinate-comparison-charts/
This is my source. See what i mean?
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http://www.droid-life.com/2010/08/30/samsung-fascinate-comparison-charts/
This is my source. See what i mean?
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Well that proves it. The droid life chart is crap and inaccurate. It claims 512k ram for the captivate, yet my stock captivate is less than 350k.
Are you surprised that unofficial charts are inaccurate?
That chart is from an official VZW training document. Trust me. Thats not something droidlife whipped up, that came FROM samsung and vzw. Its about as official as you can get. Ive seen these before, and thats when I started this thread, not becuase of the phandroid post (I dont read phandroid). So now that these are finally out in the open, the internal Galaxy S comparison chart is what I have been referring to.
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300ish mb? Is that right?
500
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512MB, but all of it isn't usable (or can even be seen by the OS) until Froyo.
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512MB, but all of it isn't usable (or can even be seen by the OS) until Froyo.
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Ah... so Verizon's website is wrong... (it lists 384mb) considering this for a work phone, but was put off by the "apparent" lack of memory.
Had been considering this phone vs the Droid X...
Oh crap, then maybe I was wrong?! Did Verizon gimp this phone too like they've done with others before?
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Ah... so Verizon's website is wrong... (it lists 384mb) considering this for a work phone, but was put off by the "apparent" lack of memory.
Had been considering this phone vs the Droid X...
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325mb of ram
1.3gb of program storage
105mb of personal data storage
It is not a lack of memory at all. Android does a fine job of managing the ram. I have a crap load of apps and games and it only occupies 300mb of the program storage. The ram level is something you will never notice. Unlike windows.
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Sorry, but I disagree from experience. On my Evo I was running Eclair CM which was limited to 3??MB due to Android 2.1. Once I upgraded to Froyo CM 6.0 which opened up all 512MB that the phone had I noticed a huge difference in apps not having to close all of the time. I noticed this on my N1 as well with 2.1 vs 2.2. I may just have to find a way to get my Evo on VZW. :-(
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Oh, I forgot to mention that you're right about Android doing an excellent job with memory management, I'm just saying that I notice a big difference with 512MB of RAM as far as usability.
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The first explanation is what I was referring to:
http://www.droid-life.com/2010/09/04/how-much-ram-does-the-samsung-fascinate-have/
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Its 512 but the other site explanation is wrong as hell. It has reserved ram for several things, not just video. It wont be any better with froyo.
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The phone actually does have a full 512. Like adrynalyne said tho a portion of it is used for things such as the cpu, amongst.other things
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To the best of my knowledge, this phone has 512 MB of RAM total, with 128 MB being reserved for the GPU, and another chunk reserved for other system stuff. ALL the Galaxy S phones are setup this way, not just the Fascinate. Verizon just chose to list the specs differently. And btw, even the Droid X, which is advertised as having 512 MB, does not actually report that it has that much (more like 488, I think), because some is reserved by the system.
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Here's to hoping it really does have 512... As I'm getting one as my work phone...
As an aside, I heard a rumor from our verizon rep that froyo was expected for this phone in november...
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Froyo is slated for all galaxy phones in November. Samsung verified that today. Also it has 512mb RAM but 128 dedicated to gpu this phone will have the best multimedia solution of any phone on the market. The screen is awesome without a doubt
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wow, it never fails to come up. This is one marketing blunder.
They should never have said the RAM amounts because people who aren't technical are getting caught up in the tech. Most of the iphone and some android users just don't understand the specs. They see it as the iphone gets 30 miles per gallon and now Verizon is saying that the Galaxy S only gets 10 miles per gallon. They don't look at how an O.S. uses it or that every Galaxy S gets the same. How and why the Video CPU uses some, why it's frozen for the video, what the RAM stands for, why its' Random access versus read only (ROM).. none of that.
SO lets leave it here. If you don't understand RAM vs ROM, why FROYO's code is optimized to handle more RAM, why M$ XP only truly allocates and sees 640k of ram (less than 1 mb), the difference between 8 and 16 bit access, and have not developed anything using code, then don't question the Fascinate RAM.
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wow, it never fails to come up. This is one marketing blunder.
They should never have said the RAM amounts because people who aren't technical are getting caught up in the tech. Most of the iphone and some android users just don't understand the specs. They see it as the iphone gets 30 miles per gallon and now Verizon is saying that the Galaxy S only gets 10 miles per gallon. They don't look at how an O.S. uses it or that every Galaxy S gets the same. How and why the Video CPU uses some, why it's frozen for the video, what the RAM stands for, why its' Random access versus read only (ROM).. none of that.
SO lets leave it here. If you don't understand RAM vs ROM, why FROYO's code is optimized to handle more RAM, why M$ XP only truly allocates and sees 640k of ram (less than 1 mb), the difference between 8 and 16 bit access, and have not developed anything using code, then don't question the Fascinate RAM.
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How about instead using your knowledge to inform instead of chastise and shun others from asking questions?
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doesn't matter... Is simply been trying to decide which phone to get for work... After challenges with other samsung phones i'm just a little leary...
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Don't worry you'll get even less ram with froyo.
I have the european version of galaxy s and jp6 froyo installed (official rom that was taken off by samsung after a few day after release)
304 ram.
As we all know, it is not 100% known whether the Dell Venue Pro has 512mb of RAM or 256mb of RAM. I essentially want to make a poll to see how many people believe the Dell Venu Pro actually has 512mb of RAM and that it is an issue that simply has to be solved and who thinks the Dell Venue Pro actually has 256mb of RAM and that there is no denying it and that Dell basically were careless and lied to us.
If you can, explain why you voted for what you voted for.
I don't think Dell is careless enough to so brazenly risk a false advertising class action suit. I think they really did put 512MB in RAM in the phone, why its not showing up is another story.
Wow so far it looks like there are many people who believe there is a 512mb RAM in it, which makes me a little more comfortable. I voted for 512mb RAM because of how fast I have seen it run... and many reviewers say it is one of the fastest if not the fastest WP7 device out there right now. But of course... I may just be doing wishful thinking, I'm not 100% convinced yet.
blind assumption here but my guess is most people that "accept" the dvp to have 256 have probably returned their phones.
personally i cant see how it would be possible that all the dvp devices were shipped with less ram than any other windows 7 phone minus the developer phone
i want to belive, but…
I wish everyone who is unhappy with the Dell Venue Pro would just return it and shut up.
If its discomforting that it may or may not have enough of something, although you couldn't tell at all until you ran some app that wasn't even made with the phone in mind, then return it and stop trying to make a mountain out of a molehill.
There's almost nothing constructive about visiting the DVP forums. I wish XDA would scrap it, keep maybe a few threads here and there, and start over.
^And I wish we weren't misleaded to believe we were getting 512mb RAM when we really weren't... and I personally think it is helpful to know if the phone really has 512RAM or 256RAM.
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^And I wish we weren't misleaded to believe we were getting 512mb RAM when we really weren't... and I personally think it is helpful to know if the phone really has 512RAM or 256RAM.
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then sacrifice your phone for the greater good take it apart get out your magnfying glass and tell us whats up
I believe that it uses a special type of RAM and that it is perhaps conflicting with the OS. Long shot, but hey, it isn't called the fastest WP7 phone for nothing.
I have the DVP 16GB showing 225MB and a HD2, which Device Info shows only 371.71MB instead of 512MB. So on one hand I think the program doesn't show all the RAM for some reason. What I'm worried about is when I called Dell about my freezing issues they confirmed they only shipped with 256MB. But the two people at Dell Cares didn't seem to know the basics so I don't know what to believe.
I will tell you I see no performance issue between the DVP and the HD7 so if they can make it this fast with 256MB and it doesn't limit future udaptes/features and spped I'm fine with it.
Dell will still have to answer for lying to their cusomters. I really hope it's 512mb.
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Dell will still have to answer for lying to their cusomters. I really hope it's 512mb.
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lying to their customers? Most of us have by now now experienced outsourced support. These people have decent skills, little knowledge, and usually little understanding of the cultural markers that each country has. When asking a question they have no explanation to, the response may try even the best of us.
These phones come with 512mb. Microsoft has already told us we are treating memory different. They have supplied APIs that do not separate ram and other parts,do not correctly consider sd card, or even available space.
The primary reason I believe this is a 512 meg phone is, Dell is trying to make money on this phone, and a statement as well. We all read about replacing internal phones with the VP.
I believe this mess is simply a bad reporting take with some APIs , period.
Just read this from Android central.
http://www.androidcentral.com/purpo...ak-ahead-mwc?utm_source=ac&utm_medium=twitter
If true, I look forward to jumping from Tegra 2 to 3!
(Crosses fingers...please have unlockable bootloader..)
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Update. Fake rumor http://briefmobile.com/motorola-atrix-3-rumor-isnt-real-we-wish-it-was
Access denied trying to view that page. I also like the jump. I feel like the atrix 2 was a major let down, it also didnt get a lot of attention from the carrier and marketing wise, hopefully the 3 is much improved.
And it should have an FP scanner as well
I don't know if I really should buy something from MOTO again.
But I never ever buy an Android phone without testing it.
Things like 1080p playback, USB stability, stability in general and of course an open bootloader are more important for me than great hardware specs.
I want more stability!
Use the fuc...... hardware this time!
But the Atrix 3 looks really well.
Hope that MOTO learned from their stupid decisions...
Motorola Atrix 4G AT&T unlocked
Nice, Tegra 3 is the future.
I was disapointed to not see Tegra in the Atrix 2, thought Moto gave up on nvidia.
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Just read this from Android central.
http://www.androidcentral.com/purpo...ak-ahead-mwc?utm_source=ac&utm_medium=twitter
If true, I look forward to jumping from Tegra 2 to 3!
(Crosses fingers...please have unlockable bootloader..)
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Color me skeptical. The photos look like someone took an Atrix 4G and slapped some crude signs next to them. Notice that there's nothing on the display itself, just a blank screen. It may be legit, but like the article said, it could be a fake, so I'm not putting any stock in it until there's confirmation.
This phone is worth getting if our amazing devs move to it. But spec wise looks promising
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Its too late for me. A Sony phone or galaxy s3 for me. The unlocked bootloaders from the beginning attracts all kinds and a lot of devs. Plus Samsung encourages custom ROMS. They're getting to be a better OEM since the galaxy s2 line. Shoot, there's an ICS ROM leak for a couple of American galaxy s2 phones as we speak! When is some of Motorola's phone's update? Q3...
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nay.
you've been duped!
http://briefmobile.com/motorola-atrix-3-rumor-isnt-real-we-wish-it-was
Wow whatta fail. Android Central is usually the last place I get my android news but this rumor seemed a bit intriguing. Oh well...maybe a samsung will be next for me.
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nay.
you've been duped!
http://briefmobile.com/motorola-atrix-3-rumor-isnt-real-we-wish-it-was
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2gb ram would be nice but that just means more likely not happening.
We've been stuck at this 1gb ram for a while now....
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2gb ram would be nice but that just means more likely not happening.
We've been stuck at this 1gb ram for a while now....
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What the hell am I going to do with 2GB of ram and a quad core cpu on my phone ?
Render 3D animations? LOL
Linux, anyone?
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I would love 2GB of RAM and more internal memory than the regular Atrix(32GB instead of 16GB).
I don't really care that much if its a quad-core and dual-core because the software barely takes advantage of the dual core processor if they are going to go with quad-cores now then make the processors take advantage of software for once with apps and video games as well as being able to play HD videos of different formats.
I would settle for a nice dual core 1.5-1.7 Ghz processor that is battery efficient
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I don't really care that much if its a quad-core and dual-core because the software barely takes advantage of the dual core processor if they are going to go with quad-cores now then make the processors take advantage of software for once with apps and video games as well as being able to play HD videos of different formats.
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exactly why I plan on keeping my phone for a long time.
it's fake . i Thing the gonna build razor 2 or droid 5 with better qwerty
"It's shopped, I can tell by the pixels" . Though I did have my doubts by look since it looks a similar shape of our atrix, but with the hardware buttons blacked out and the logo flipped to the bottom. If it is true (slim chance), I think the 2 gigs of ram would be overkill for most users, save power users and linux folks. Well we shall see in time I guess.
That sucks! I was really looking forward to that phone if it was real! That would have been a monster of a battery in the thing. Week long use anyone?
Dear Vibrant,
You have kicked a lot of ass these past few years. With the help of all these badass developers on XDA, you were still able to outperform many new devices especially those crappy HTC phones. Unfortunately, I'm happily looking forward to replacing you with a Galaxy S3. The hardest decision now is which color do I get?
Best Wishes,
Nick
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Wow.
After all the frustration you've experience with the Vibrant, you're going to pony right back up to Samsung with your hard-earned money, and yet again suckle from their teat?
Not me, good sir, not me.
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After all the frustration you've experience with the Vibrant, you're going to pony right back up to Samsung with your hard-earned money, and yet again suckle from their teat?
Not me, good sir, not me.
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I re-read his original post several times and have yet to see any indication of "frustration." Any chance you might be attributing your own personal experiences to him?
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After all the frustration you've experience with the Vibrant, you're going to pony right back up to Samsung with your hard-earned money, and yet again suckle from their teat?
Not me, good sir, not me.
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I agree that Samsung has delayed the updates etc. But do you not agree they make one hell of a phone?
My Vibrant has been the greatest phone i have ever had, and I'll go right back to Samsung, know why? Samsung may not provide the best timed updates, but look at the other manufacturers. HTC and Motorola both lock bootloaders, and for me its a choice between HTC or Samsung. Samsung clearly wins. Specially with the developers we have here.
Also @ OP
I think the is it Pebble Blue? Looks pretty good, but its being delayed internationally because they screwed up on the battery covers.
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After all the frustration you've experience with the Vibrant, you're going to pony right back up to Samsung with your hard-earned money, and yet again suckle from their teat?
Not me, good sir, not me.
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I enjoyed the Vibrant. I wasn't frustrated whatsoever. I'm looking forward to the gs3. I will give Samsung another chance.
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I enjoyed the Vibrant. I wasn't frustrated whatsoever. I'm looking forward to the gs3. I will give Samsung another chance.
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I will suckle away on maybe the greatest android phone to ever hit this planet!!!!!!
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If Samsung keeps their phones as easy to root and flash as the Vibrant has been I'll be more than happy to go back. Aside from having to do the hardware GPS fix I've had no complaints with the Vibrant... not to say I wouldn't enjoy the SIII though
As long as you didn't stay on stock (and why would you if you're lurking around these parts of XDA) the Vibrant has been a dream with how easy you can load up what you want. And for a device going on 2 years old it's very impressive how it's held up and is still able to rock ICS builds with minimul issues.
I'm going off the contract grid in a couple of months, and I'll be rolling the Vibrant until the wheels fall off. Next one will probably be the Galaxy Nexus since it probably the least hassle without a contract, but hopefully there's another price drop (come on $300...) before I have to put my good ol' Vibrant out to pasture.
Completly agree with everyone else. My vibrant has been the best phone I've had...true it had its moments, like anything, but it still outruns most new phones. I've had the vibrant for 2 years and it's never let me down (except in the gps department lol). It still runs like new....and actually with all the development it actually runs better NOW then every before lol I will be sad to let it go, but the sg3 will be the first phone that makes me want to move forward....but not because I feel the vibrant underachieves by any means. In fact, I'm donating my vibrant to a good friend of mine who is stuck with a ****ty htc device until he can upgrade. So it will get its use for another 2 years at least.
Since T-Mobile USA isn't LTE yet, I have a good feeling the S3 is going to be Quad-Core. If it isn't, I might get a Galaxy Nexus or wait till September to see what else comes out.
Most probably tmobile sg3 will have krait s4 chip coz specs are out for Canadian 42 mbps HSPA+ and it has s4 dual core chip. On the bright side it has 2 Gb ram
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Most probably tmobile sg3 will have krait s4 chip coz specs are out for Canadian 42 mbps HSPA+ and it has s4 dual core chip. On the bright side it has 2 Gb ram
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Do you think the 2 gb of ram is necessary?
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Not sure if 2 GB it's necessary. But i am pretty pissed with apps closing in the background while browsing in opera and services like my email and Swype closing due to lack of ram in vibrant. Also many games like shadowgun and MC3 just won't run, not because hummingbird soc can't handle, but not enough ram. I believe in long term usage more ram is better than quad core over dual core, when the socs are of the same generation.
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Not sure if 2 GB it's necessary. But i am pretty pissed with apps closing in the background while browsing in opera and services like my email and Swype closing due to lack of ram in vibrant. Also many games like shadowgun and MC3 just won't run, not because hummingbird soc can't handle, but not enough ram. I believe in long term usage more ram is better than quad core over dual core, when the socs are of the same generation.
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Well, after all... It is a phone.
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Feeling really duped being a UK owner. (Still annoyed at UK Xoom update farce)
What is worrying is that according to this article http://www.phonesreview.co.uk/2012/...s3-us-carrier-availability-jelly-bean-update/ it's because Samsung are worried about the hardware for jellybean.
Sent email to Samsung ... not expecting reply :
I see you are joining the ranks of Motorola when it comes to letting down UK buyers (refering to the ICS update for UK Xooms). I have just seen that while we have 1GB of RAM you are increasing this to 2GB for just about everyone else - mainly for the forthcoming update to jellybean. Does this mean we wont be getting Jellybean?? Or if we do is 1GB going to be insufficient to get the most out of what we were led to believe was the best phone on the market.
Are we going to be offered an upgrade?
I have only had this phone 2 weeks and already feel like I have been duped.
Regards
i very seriously doubt the 2gig ram was because of Jelly the Bean
i mean the Nexus is slated to get it.....it only has 1gig right. so that meanssssss
exactly!!!!
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Feeling really duped being a UK owner. (Still annoyed at UK Xoom update farce)
What is worrying is that according to this article http://www.phonesreview.co.uk/2012/...s3-us-carrier-availability-jelly-bean-update/ it's because Samsung are worried about the hardware for jellybean.
Sent email to Samsung ... not expecting reply :
I see you are joining the ranks of Motorola when it comes to letting down UK buyers (refering to the ICS update for UK Xooms). I have just seen that while we have 1GB of RAM you are increasing this to 2GB for just about everyone else - mainly for the forthcoming update to jellybean. Does this mean we wont be getting Jellybean?? Or if we do is 1GB going to be insufficient to get the most out of what we were led to believe was the best phone on the market.
Are we going to be offered an upgrade?
I have only had this phone 2 weeks and already feel like I have been duped.
Regards
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All s3 with 2GB ram will only be dual core, all s3 with 1GB ram will get quad core.
you decide what you want.
Even the Nexus S is getting jelly bean.
The 2GB of RAM is because the S4 processor in those phones is more memory hungry.
It has nothing to do with Jellybean.
At all.
We have known for a while now that the American versions are getting 2Gbs because of their CPU/GPU.
Your phone will run JB just fine.
This will answer why .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSicyj9hbwc&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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Like people said, the better processor will balance out the lower RAM.
RAM is for keeping things in a handy place that the device can quickly recall, to save it delay of reopening and closing things constantly. An S3.4x (I'll use this as shorthand for quad core) will reach its memory limit faster than an S3.2x, having to put things in swap instead. But the S3.2x doesn't have as good a processor: it wouldn't be able to cope with reopening/closing applications as well as the S3.4x can.
Also, since processor power consumption is not linear, but exponential, the S3.4x can keep all the processors at half the speed each of the S3.2x's would be, when it does need to reopen apps. This will consume less power than the dual core would performing the same task.
So yeah, a 1GB version can't keep remember as many things as the 2GB one. But the 1GB version will finish tasks faster giving it less to need to remember.
Yeah the Korean version has both. But imagine what that will cost! It has that on top of a TV tuner (one which won't work outside South Korea by the way).
Ummm ... I was so angry I didn't read the part about it only having a dual core ...lol. I feel better now.
Lesson learned ... read WHOLE article in future!
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Lol I'm in America and bought the international quad. 2GB will barely ever be used
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Yeah 2GB is damn useless for now, I always have at least 100mb free whatever I'm doing, Android ram management is impressive. Maybe it will change in the next years but for now it's useless but maybe quadcore will be a must have in the next years and dual core will not be enough who knows, anyway since int version will have the best support (official support and dev support from the community) that's the one for me, GPU and audio chip made helped me to decide. Both are almost equal imo.
Seriously guys. That story is bull****. Do you really think that Samsung, the maker of the last two nexus phones and last years best/best selling phone, didn't know about the requirements for jelly bean??
Seriously??
The f*ckin nexus s is getting JB, it has 512mb of ram, 360mb usable.
That story is crap.
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Feeling duped as a UK buyer? Dude we get the better cpu, gpu and dac. Honestly doubt that 2gb would make much difference.