[Q] epic avaailable tomorrow at the shack??? - Epic 4G General

my friend just texted me that RS called him today to tell him the epic arrived at the store today and would be ready for p/u tomorrow! this dude is normally a jokester but he swears he's not lying THIS TIME! what do u guys think? is this possible???

2kidz said:
my friend just texted me that RS called him today to tell him the epic arrived at the store today and would be ready for p/u tomorrow! this dude is normally a jokester but he swears he's not lying THIS TIME! what do u guys think? is this possible???
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Nope
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Someone on androidforums said they got their call too and tried to get it today but the system wouldn't ring it up. Even if you wanted it super super bad, there's no way for it to be sold to you at this point.

ben7337 said:
Someone on androidforums said they got their call too and tried to get it today but the system wouldn't ring it up. Even if you wanted it super super bad, there's no way for it to be sold to you at this point.
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Awwwww...... That sucks. I would be heart broken standing there at the register so close to my Epic.

koolhand79 said:
Awwwww...... That sucks. I would be heart broken standing there at the register so close to my Epic.
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Yeah, getting to hold it, toy with it, fill out all the forms and essentially have it set to go, but unable to ring up and actually do the transaction. It would be depressing. It's a shame too, cuz if they were somehow magically selling the phone tomorrow, I would gladly go to a radioshack and try to pick one up. Them selling it today or tomorrow would be the only way I am buying this phone in the next 2-3 weeks.

ben7337 said:
Yeah, getting to hold it, toy with it, fill out all the forms and essentially have it set to go, but unable to ring up and actually do the transaction. It would be depressing. It's a shame too, cuz if they were somehow magically selling the phone tomorrow, I would gladly go to a radioshack and try to pick one up. Them selling it today or tomorrow would be the only way I am buying this phone in the next 2-3 weeks.
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Thats worse than waiting!

ConceptVBS said:
Thats worse than waiting!
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Not if you ask to see the phone, then run out of the store with it before they sell it to you. Then you get it early and free

I just called RS and they say I have to wait till 8/31. My case for the epic came in today. My wife is laughing at me because I'm playing with the case pretending I have my Epic. The Epic is almost half as thick as my FUZE and the epic sceen opening is almost as big as the FUZE. I got a carbon Fiber case to make the phone faster.

Just called my radioshack, and they said they didn't have the phone in stock. I think they are lying to me. XD
Either way, she told me I won't be able to pick it up till tuesday.

NeonMonster said:
Just called my radioshack, and they said they didn't have the phone in stock. I think they are lying to me. XD
Either way, she told me I won't be able to pick it up till tuesday.
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welp...so i guess my dilemma now is to determine if my bud is lying (again) or if RS is lying (to my bud) either way, it really dont matter as i STILL cant p/u MINE until tuesday!!!! thanks guys...i tend to believe u guys OVER my friend or RS!!!! ha!

whered u get ur carbon fiber case from? i want one!

You do know that if its real carbon fiber that your phone won't get a signal inside it right?Carbon fiber messes with radio signals.

Yeah that was me that went down and nearly walked out with 2 Epics. The phones are activated and in my name. The Radio Shack cash register just isn't able to let me purchase them until Tuesday. The cashiers tried. They were scanning every barcode on the box, trying to figure out which one would work for checkout.

dr.pepper1 said:
Yeah that was me that went down and nearly walked out with 2 Epics. The phones are activated and in my name. The Radio Shack cash register just isn't able to let me purchase them until Tuesday. The cashiers tried. They were scanning every barcode on the box, trying to figure out which one would work for checkout.
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Did you try leaving them the money and the box and taking the phone with you?

ls3mach said:
Did you try leaving them the money and the box and taking the phone with you?
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No, didn't ask, though I doubt they would have let me. I'm just glad to know that the phones are in stock and waiting for me on Tuesday.

skeeterslint said:
You do know that if its real carbon fiber that your phone won't get a signal inside it right?Carbon fiber messes with radio signals.
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No it's not real carbon fiber for $6.95 and free shipping. It's made out of plastic and has a rubberized feel so it won'tslip out of your hand. http://cgi.ebay.com/Carbon-Fiber-Ha...665056?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item51949cf420 I put hard cases on all my phones.

dr.pepper1 said:
No, didn't ask, though I doubt they would have let me. I'm just glad to know that the phones are in stock and waiting for me on Tuesday.
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You should have just have them scan another phone and then have them manually write on the receipt of the change...I know I wouldn't have walked out without the phone >.> lol

itsmebryan said:
No it's not real carbon fiber for $6.95 and free shipping. It's made out of plastic and has a rubberized feel so it won'tslip out of your hand. http://cgi.ebay.com/Carbon-Fiber-Ha...665056?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item51949cf420 I put hard cases on all my phones.
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BE WARY OF CHEAP SNAP ON CASES OFF EBAY.
I've had many of these cases, and they are all made in china. Every since one I've ever used has not fit the phone properly, had gaps all around the edges of the 2 pieces, and in general where just cheap. :|

NeonMonster said:
BE WARY OF CHEAP SNAP ON CASES OFF EBAY.
I've had many of these cases, and they are all made in china. Every since one I've ever used has not fit the phone properly, had gaps all around the edges of the 2 pieces, and in general where just cheap. :|
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Well I will be the tester for the group. I will post as so as I get the phone. It's only $6.95

thanks for being the tester for the group! I would do it too except unfortunately I have to wait til the 15th to get the epic
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Nexus One!

Just gotta brag a little bit. The cell phone provider I work for is going to be getting the Nexus One in the near future, and I was picked to test it for them! I should be getting it sometime in the next couple weeks (Upper management is ahead of me on the list), and will only get to test it for a week, but none the less I am very excited! Best of all, I get my handset discount again in March, and I know what I will be using it on!
you shouldnt be so happy, once you try the nexus one i know at the end of that week theyll be prying it out of your hands... with no success
melterx12 said:
you shouldnt be so happy, once you try the nexus one i know at the end of that week theyll be prying it out of your hands... with no success
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Yeah, when my manager came in today to tell me I jumped up and down like a little girl! I was only going to get 4 days, but she is giving me 3 of hers just because. It will be hard for me to give it up, very hard! But I will be able to knowing coming March I will be getting my very own, for whatever the after rebate price! Gotta love good job perks!
Um... so you work for Verizon?
uansari1 said:
Um... so you work for Verizon?
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I can't say.
pjcforpres said:
I can't say.
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Uh huh... Google has told us that the N1 is coming for VZ and Vodaphone. I don't think you're a Brit... so yea, lol. Enjoy it.
https://www.google.com/phone/choose?locale=en_US&s7e= tells us verizon right here... lol
I don't work for Verizon.
Enjoy your phone

Update on Info

I looked in my email today to some surprising information. As many of you know Best Buy purchases the phones from the company therefore we can sell the phone at OUR price with NO rebates.
The new contract price will be $199. thats all i know. and all anyone knows. the phone will be released the second week of june. I get a hands on with the device on may 17th. soooo pumped. and i will keep you all updated the more i find out. that is 2 days before the may 19th event in new york. but anyways im pumped. you should be too.
Its going to be information over load soon enough and I for one can't wait
Avalaunchmods said:
I looked in my email today to some surprising information. As many of you know Best Buy purchases the phones from the company therefore we can sell the phone at OUR price with NO rebates.
The new contract price will be $199. thats all i know. and all anyone knows. the phone will be released the second week of june. I get a hands on with the device on may 17th. soooo pumped. and i will keep you all updated the more i find out. that is 2 days before the may 19th event in new york. but anyways im pumped. you should be too.
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i was too busy to look at my email tonight... i will see in the morning... now i am excited...i have an upgrade waiting to be used on this phone!
This is great news. So when can we start preordering. Will this be having the same warranty as getting it from sprint? Thanks.
Magus_doc said:
This is great news. So when can we start preordering. Will this be having the same warranty as getting it from sprint? Thanks.
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i work at bby but i recommend them even if i didnt. get geek squad black tie protection. 9.99 a month and it covers everything on earth. literally everything.
and there was no info on anything else. my manager is top in sales in ky/tenn region. she is a big dog around here and has connections that she uses for me
but anyways the second i hear more ill report it back here.
i cant get fired for this right?
Avalaunchmods said:
i work at bby but i recommend them even if i didnt. get geek squad black tie protection. 9.99 a month and it covers everything on earth. literally everything.
and there was no info on anything else. my manager is top in sales in ky/tenn region. she is a big dog around here and has connections that she uses for me
but anyways the second i hear more ill report it back here.
i cant get fired for this right?
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Am I the only person who laughs when i hear 'geek squad' and 'protection' or warranty in the same sentence, and being used in a good way.
mrono said:
Am I the only person who laughs when i hear 'geek squad' and 'protection' or warranty in the same sentence, and being used in a good way.
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No, you're not...
And you're sure that its the second week of June? The rumor these days is its headed for a very late May release... Ideas?
Check this out:
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?p=1729740#post1729740
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Check this out:
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?p=1729740#post1729740
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wow. i cant really believe that. they have to do training for new phones. and that training hasnt been done. a friend of mine who works in texas at a sprint corporate store hasnt heard a word.
well that would be wild though lol
Deleting leaked info

Walmart to sell Evo for $199.99 sans rebate

http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2010/06/02/walmart-feeling-the-evo-4g-hype-to-sell-the-superphone-for-199-sans-mail-in-rebate/
another source for those that weren't able to pre-order. good luck!!
I hate seeing people with there pants around there knees. Lol, it's funny how people think it's cool/ fashionable. Especially when you are in prison it means you can be a female for a guy lol
there's a friend of the family who's a cop and i asked him about it. he said he loves it when people breaking the law have saggy pants. he doesn't have to chase them far
SilverStone641 said:
there's a friend of the family who's a cop and i asked him about it. he said he loves it when people breaking the law have saggy pants. he doesn't have to chase them far
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In the other side, would be nice if the girls use saggy pants but without the boxers uh?
i dunno, i could see some unfortunate outcomes with that plan
SilverStone641 said:
i dunno, i could see some unfortunate outcomes with that plan
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hahahahahaha
SilverStone641 said:
there's a friend of the family who's a cop and i asked him about it. he said he loves it when people breaking the law have saggy pants. he doesn't have to chase them far
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I guess there is a positive to every negative.
But i still think its nasty to see that.
This is why i couldn't work in a store lol. Someone came up to me with his pants like that i would laugh and ask if he was serious or was it a prank show. Then get fired for it
Guys, I'm bummed by this and the articles on Android Central and Android Phone.
I've called 4 Super Centers now and NO ONE knows anything about this phone.
Further more they ALL have stated that they do NOT carry sprint ANYTHING in their stores?
Going to check more info somehwere.
So Chicago 'burbs....ur out of luck !
bubbacs1 said:
Guys, I'm bummed by this and the articles on Android Central and Android Phone.
I've called 4 Super Centers now and NO ONE knows anything about this phone.
Further more they ALL have stated that they do NOT carry sprint ANYTHING in their stores?
Going to check more info somehwere.
So Chicago 'burbs....ur out of luck !
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it's on their website
You are going to have a difficult time finding a store that sells Sprint service/phones. Most stores do not carry anything Sprint at all, so you've just got to keep trying to call different stores to find one that does.
bubbacs1 said:
Guys, I'm bummed by this and the articles on Android Central and Android Phone.
I've called 4 Super Centers now and NO ONE knows anything about this phone.
Further more they ALL have stated that they do NOT carry sprint ANYTHING in their stores?
Going to check more info somehwere.
So Chicago 'burbs....ur out of luck !
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Yeah... calling walmart and asking for someone to be well informed?
Sounds like a good idea...
timothydonohue said:
it's on their website
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Yep, ur right !
Only click to get one and u'll SEE that the offer and price is ONLY made ONLINE.
NO instore sales!
P.S. forgot...look in the upper right hand corner, RED box SMALL Print!
Odd, I called our walmart (North Spokane, WA) and they claimed they will have it in store and ready to connect at 9am (when the cell station opens)
thecodemonk said:
Odd, I called our walmart (North Spokane, WA) and they claimed they will have it in store and ready to connect at 9am (when the cell station opens)
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Basterds are problee makin fun of an OLD man......ME !
Knowin how bad I want one, Wal-Marts of the Chicago-Kind are messin with me !
They keep this up and I'll return those SEXY Shorts I bought last week !
bubbacs1 said:
Basterds are problee makin fun of an OLD man......ME !
Knowin how bad I want one, Wal-Marts of the Chicago-Kind are messin with me !
They keep this up and I'll return those SEXY Shorts I bought last week !
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you mean these sexy shorts?
or maybe these , lol!
timothydonohue said:
you mean these sexy shorts?
or maybe these , lol!
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Why I Autta....................
How was I to know that they had a camera on me that day.
And NO that second pic is of my boyfriend......."Phatbasterd".
timothydonohue said:
it's on their website
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Anyone notice the actual url this points to?
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http://www.walmart.com/ip/AT-T-HTC-Tilt-2-Touchscreen-Smartphone-Value-Bundle-w-Car-Charger-Bluetooth-Headset-and-Screen-Protector-Price-with-New-2-yr-Contract/13082134
EDIT: AT T HTC Tilt 2....
this is cool, i'll make walmart my 4th option if none of the radio shacks have any non-preorders in stock. good thing i will be on my sportbike to get to each store quickly
FYI
"The HTC® EVO™ 4G with Google™ is currently only available for pre-order reservaion and WILL NOT SHIP UNTIL JUNE 4TH. Supply is very limited at launch. Please keep in mind, a pre-order reservation does not guarantee that your phone will ship on launch day, June 4th. "
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Anyone notice the actual url this points to?
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EDIT: AT T HTC Tilt 2....
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if you follow the link, instead of just reading the link body, you'll see that it takes you to the evo.

May be going to EVO

I may be going to the Evo, we'll see. Sprint offered me a different model phone finally and I'm going to go for the evo. Third hero from them and their repair/refurb people can't seem to get it right... They said I have to pay sales tax on it though, which I found amazingly strange.
I will never leave the Hero forums, though, that was what got me into Android in the first place and I really wish I could still have a hero...
How did you swing that? Im on my 4th defective hero and they told me they will not replace them anymore. That they can only do so many replacements per year. I have insurance too. Oh yeah and if you do get an evo, it will probably ship with the new patch that prevents root. No work around yet either!
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Correct spelling is traitor.
And I was pissed enough to be willing to pay the ETF on this line and close my other brand new line if they didn't take care of the issue by sending me a different model phone due to the circumstances. I'e been with them for a little over 3 years now and always been good with my bills and such so they try to keep me happy, and I really do appreciate that. The guy said I could pick the phone so I checked out online and decided to go with the Evo even though I'll probably never get 4g. It's the only other phone comparable to the Hero and that is made by HTC, since I like the HTC product.
Only thing is, though, is that he said they'd be back in stock in approx 2 weeks... well... I leave for vacation on the 21st and if they're back in in exactly 2 weeks, that puts it at the 20th. Plus 2 days for shipping and I'll have a phone sitting outside my garage for 2 weeks.
Can someone who works for Sprint, like a rep I'd get a hold of if I dialed *2, let me know what the expected arrival date is for more Evo's, please? I really need to stay on top of this so I can get it if they come in earlier. I can't have that phone sitting outside for 2 weeks. I'd owe you one if you could do this for me. PM me or whatever!
markus_del_marko said:
How did you swing that? Im on my 4th defective hero and they told me they will not replace them anymore. That they can only do so many replacements per year. I have insurance too. Oh yeah and if you do get an evo, it will probably ship with the new patch that prevents root. No work around yet either!
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I'm pretty sure that after 3 or 4 replacements, you're allowed to switch the phone out for a new model... At least that's how it was for my sisters blackberry.
jerry43812 said:
Only thing is, though, is that he said they'd be back in stock in approx 2 weeks... well... I leave for vacation on the 21st and if they're back in in exactly 2 weeks, that puts it at the 20th. Plus 2 days for shipping and I'll have a phone sitting outside my garage for 2 weeks.
Can someone who works for Sprint, like a rep I'd get a hold of if I dialed *2, let me know what the expected arrival date is for more Evo's, please? I really need to stay on top of this so I can get it if they come in earlier. I can't have that phone sitting outside for 2 weeks. I'd owe you one if you could do this for me. PM me or whatever!
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There is no "eta" (sorry) they've been available twice since the first time they sold out for approximately 3 hours both times before they sold out again. I work sprint retention.
DirtyShroomz said:
There is no "eta" (sorry) they've been available twice since the first time they sold out for approximately 3 hours both times before they sold out again. I work sprint retention.
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Haha this is off-topic, but DirtyShroomz, what would I need to say to Sprint when I call them later today to get a free AirRave? The signal in my house SUCKS, and my battery dies super quickly because of that.
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Haha this is off-topic, but DirtyShroomz, what would I need to say to Sprint when I call them later today to get a free AirRave? The signal in my house SUCKS, and my battery dies super quickly because of that.
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Ask for one, if you're asl you can't get it free
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Ask for one, if you're asl you can't get it free
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asl? and is it true that airave doesn't do 3g data, only 1x?
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asl? and is it true that airave doesn't do 3g data, only 1x?
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Idk what ASL means, but 1x won't matter since I can use WiFi at my house (where the airrave will be).
I was asking for my personal curiosity lol.
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Idk what ASL means, but 1x won't matter since I can use WiFi at my house (where the airrave will be).
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ASL - Account spending limit --- your bill usually shows if you are part of the program. You also get a $4.99 fee / month on your bill if your not on auto-pay and part of the ASL program.
You also need to be in an area where its avail. -- its not avail everywhere, http://sprint.com/airave click where is it avail. Put your zip in.
Also don't just ask for one. That's rude. Explain that you don't have signal in your house, your diggin your new phones but dropped calls in home are worth the ETFs to you and the high cost if you can't get your signal in your house, and then see if they will help you out.
markus_del_marko said:
Oh yeah and if you do get an evo, it will probably ship with the new patch that prevents root. No work around yet either!
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The newest OTA was rooted yesterday, huzzah!
There is no way in hell you are going to get an evo from sprint and only pay sales tax. If you did you must be sucking someone off because they wanted to ship me another refurb hero, i told them to shove it. i talked to 6 people and spent 3hrs on the phone with them. one guy actually told me he could get me an evo but of course the dipshi* didn't note the account. i hate sprint with a passion. they told me in the end that they are giving evo's out to no one for free, if you want one you have to pay full price or wait until your upgrade and pay the difference. what a bunch of crap!
Oh well in a few months im sure i will be able to pick one up on craiglist for $150 or so.
FYI this would be my 4th replacement hero in 6 months.
I also didn't mean any offense towards the OP but im pissed right now! I even offered to pay the difference on the evo if they would push my upgrade status up.
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There is no way in hell you are going to get an evo from sprint and only pay sales tax. If you did you must be sucking someone off because they wanted to ship me another refurb hero,
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I also didn't mean any offense towards the OP but im pissed right now!.
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bull ****. tell me I must be sucking someone off but you mean no offense? I don't think I like you very much.
jerry43812 said:
bull ****. tell me I must be sucking someone off but you mean no offense? I don't think I like you very much.
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It was a figure of speech man, as i said. By all means share your almighty knowledge on how you got sprint to do this for you!
So where is this Evo? It's been a few days now.... I highly doubt you got an Evo free my man.
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So where is this Evo? It's been a few days now.... I highly doubt you got an Evo free my man.
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Sprint.com is out of stock for them. Getting it replaced when they come back in stock, in about 10 days or so.

Evo 149.99 for Upgrade now

I just seen it on Sprint's Website....
Wouldn't make much sense to charge $199 for both the Evo 3d and OG EVo
Agreed...
I know 2 people that were waiting for it to drop so they could upgrade...
Got mine last week @ best buy for 100
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Didn't know about Best Buy for $100 until today.
My wife got hers last week for $199, wouldn't you know, they lowered the price. I just got off the phone with Sprint and they credited my account the $50.
Of course, if they hadn't, I would have had her return it as "I didn't like it" under Sprints 30 Day guarantee and then gone to Best Buy. She doesn't need 3D and its easier to maintain 2 identical phones.
Best Buy's website has it at $49.99 when I just checked. My NS4G is going back along with the $100 going back in my wallet. I'm within my initial 30 days and this is my second NS4G and the radio still sucks. I didn't want to go with a yr old phone, but it performs great and just got the official GB update so it's still well supported by HTC and Sprint. White Evo 4G will be in my pocket tomorrow.
Saw it at sams today for $99.00
Sent from neither here... nor there.
Breast Buy sounds like a winner
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Breast Buy sounds like a winner
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lol, you made me go back and check my spelling
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lol, you made me go back and check my spelling
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LMAO..actually had to pause...go back..and double check my groggy eyes myself!
Just called to confirm (since my son wants a phone) and from what they said on the phone...I can add another EVO to my plan for the $50 bones as well. Obviously an additional $20/line fee and the GOT A HAVE IT $10 ale cart crap fee applies, but better than any other smart phone out there for the price! Going to Breast Buy tomorrow!
3D must be on the trucks to offload soon eh?
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lol, you made me go back and check my spelling
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Lol my nickname for such a great store Wonder if you gave it the motor boat if they would give you a bigger discount
dpilcher said:
LMAO..actually had to pause...go back..and double check my groggy eyes myself!
Just called to confirm (since my son wants a phone) and from what they said on the phone...I can add another EVO to my plan for the $50 bones as well. Obviously an additional $20/line fee and the GOT A HAVE IT $10 ale cart crap fee applies, but better than any other smart phone out there for the price! Going to Breast Buy tomorrow!
3D must be on the trucks to offload soon eh?
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Lmao glad you found it as funny as I did.
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Lmao glad you found it as funny as I did.
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+10 on the cigar boat! There is actually a team member at my local Breast store that I would gladly oblige! That is if I was without my son...he will learn that soon enough..LOL
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+10 on the cigar boat! There is actually a team member at my local Breast store that I would gladly oblige! That is if I was without my son...he will learn that soon enough..LOL
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Lmao ya I know what you mean tho my wife would kill me lol more then happy to just motor boat away with her lol I might not get a discount from Breast Buy but always a great meal from my lovely wife .
reaper24 said:
Lmao ya I know what you mean tho my wife would kill me lol more then happy to just motor boat away with her lol I might not get a discount from Breast Buy but always a great meal from my lovely wife .
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Less fuel and you know all the scheduled maintenance was done correctly! Good for you!
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Less fuel and you know all the scheduled maintenance was done correctly! Good for you!
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Think I may run by the store tho need to get her a better phone EVO would be great . Right now she is using a HTC touch pro 2.
reaper24 said:
Think I may run by the store tho need to get her a better phone EVO would be great . Right now she is using a HTC touch pro 2.
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Ya...glad I waited and put off his....Dad, I really need a phone so I can call you when I'm with...well you know the rest LOL. Besides, I'm thinking Hya, no more 'can I talk with...' SOLD!
Almost got him an LG the other day with basic android and no support here, can't wait to finish work and go get another one for ME...no wait..my son. Won't have to wait on Sprint to send me my replacement this week...LOL
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Ya...glad I waited and put off his....Dad, I really need a phone so I can call you when I'm with...well you know the rest LOL. Besides, I'm thinking Hya, no more 'can I talk with...' SOLD!
Almost got him an LG the other day with basic android and no support here, can't wait to finish work and go get another one for ME...no wait..my son. Won't have to wait on Sprint to send me my replacement this week...LOL
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Lol I bet he will love the new phone. I was using a crappy clam shell bought this and never will go back. Lmao ya another good reason no more using dads phone.
Done Done and Done....
Went by the local BB this morning and picked one up for him @ $50 was in and out within 15 minutes. Told the guy..."No need to take any more of your time...I'll activate it myself". There were a couple phones having the activation and UPDATE done..
Activated and now rooted..good times.
Went to Sprint to check on my replacement of the replacement EVO (BAD screen) they replaced last Friday..no go and phone calls to customer service etc have yet to get me a NIB phone..will deal with that. Guess I was a little frustrated..on the way out I saw three couples looking at the EVO and proceeded to exclaim..."Might want to go across the street to BB and get yours for $50 instead". Probably should have just kept quiet, but felt better as two of the three followed me out the store.
Sweet how did u get it for fifty did u have to motor boat

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