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whats the progress?

on rooting and maybe making a custom rom for the cdma hero? i know the hero sdk was given out the devs just recently.

fixxxer2008 said:
on rooting and maybe making a custom rom for the cdma hero? i know the hero sdk was given out the devs just recently.
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Yeah this needs to happen. I'm so sick of looking at sprint nascar and other crap loaded on this. it's like getting a new laptop with bloatware and not being able to scrub it.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=572286

Aridon said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=572286
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Shouldnt this thread get moved to the CDMA section?

Sorry for being a 'troll'
Keep asking everyday.

Wooooaaaaahhhhhh...
I read this forum almost everyday. I read it because I am excited to see what's going on. I enjoy being 'right there' on the latest news. Quite honestly, everyone who visits this forum should be excited to see this phone get 'rooted.' This makes it customizable to our liking and not what HTC/Sprint likes for us.
I use Sprint Navigation, but that's about it. My real point being that I love XDA, PPCGeeks and all these other communities because they are as excited as I am, typically. People are posting because they want to know how its progressing and how the process is done. I know I would be interested in learning about rooting, cooking, so on and so forth. It's interested watching these pro's and noob's alike come together on this new challenge.
Not to mention we got our first CDMA sub-forum that I've seen on this site. It must mean we have a spot here and that the Hero will be rooted and mods/themes will be available. Not to mention that it could be assumed that things will move faster on our device than others simply because the GSM version is already rooted, along with other Android devices.
If you don't like what's cookin', get outta the kitchen...

notrock said:
This is getting out of control. The phone has only been out for 3 WEEKS!!!!! (GSM doesn't count) Everyone including myself wants the Sprint ware off. But in reality its not in our way. I don't think anyone working on it is going to answer in fear of being annoyed to death. As time draws near I'M SURE THERE WILL BE A THREAD 'I almost replaced the boot loader on the CDMA hero' Or do you honestly think we are being intentionally left in the dark? I'm pretty sure no HTC device was able to be flash after week 3. I'm also pretty sure reverse engineering a boot loader takes some time and quality control. But go ahead rush this process.
What if it takes a YEAR or not at all?
Are we going to continue to see daily posts?
Will this madness ever end? Are people capable of enjoying a great phone without flashing it?
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Bro you are way off base, the original poster probably came to the forums seen the CDMA sup forum for the hero then created a post asking for updates. Not a big deal really.
And in the original posters message he was asking if people needed help so if an offer to help is rushing the process then I for one am all for that.

notrock said:
This is getting out of control. The phone has only been out for 3 WEEKS!!!!! (GSM doesn't count) Everyone including myself wants the Sprint ware off. But in reality its not in our way. I don't think anyone working on it is going to answer in fear of being annoyed to death. As time draws near I'M SURE THERE WILL BE A THREAD 'I almost replaced the boot loader on the CDMA hero' Or do you honestly think we are being intentionally left in the dark? I'm pretty sure no HTC device was able to be flash after week 3. I'm also pretty sure reverse engineering a boot loader takes some time and quality control. But go ahead rush this process.
What if it takes a YEAR or not at all?
Are we going to continue to see daily posts?
Will this madness ever end? Are people capable of enjoying a great phone without flashing it?
I love how 'Bump' has been replaced with 'I subscribed'
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dude.. are you serious? now i have been doing the forum thing for years now. Usually an observer. And I guess I do see my share of post of people getting mad for other enthused people asking questions about progress on certain things. But congratulations! You earned my response, and not many have. I just need to say chillax! Go troll somewhere else. You are worst then the people who ask idiotic questions (not that this thread is one at all)
p.s. Sorry everyone for wasting your time with this nonsense. I don't make it a habit.
SoLo

Samsung Behold II and Galaxy

Well the Behold II is upon and its pretty similar to the Galaxy, so can the great guys here at XDA develop some ROMs for them? We need a separate forum for these phones.

This a forum for HTC phones, so you wont see any new sections for non-hTC devices.

NM I should read.

AdrianK said:
This a forum for HTC phones, so you wont see any new sections for non-hTC devices.
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TBH The name of this forum is "Android Software Development" and whilst this is majorly a HTC forum and Samsung devices would never get their own subforum, I see no problem with Behold2/Galaxy android development going on in this forum.

brummiesteven said:
TBH The name of this forum is "Android Software Development" and whilst this is majorly a HTC forum and Samsung devices would never get their own subforum, I see no problem with Behold2/Galaxy android development going on in this forum.
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The majority of the site isnt HTC the whole site is HTC lol there mite be some off topic talk about other devices but its not officially supported by the site an never will be

mancsoulja said:
The majority of the site isnt HTC the whole site is HTC lol there mite be some off topic talk about other devices but its not officially supported by the site an never will be
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I see a xperia x1 forum...

Rcommander said:
I see a xperia x1 forum...
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Not to be a smart-arse, but the X1 is produced by HTC

brummiesteven said:
TBH The name of this forum is "Android Software Development" and whilst this is majorly a HTC forum and Samsung devices would never get their own subforum, I see no problem with Behold2/Galaxy android development going on in this forum.
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I believe that was one of the reasons for this subforum ;-)

There is also a Palm Pre sub forum and I don't believe that is made by HTC.

btmec said:
There is also a Palm Pre sub forum and I don't believe that is made by HTC.
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Hmmmmm...Don't see a Palm Pre sub-forum, maybe I am having trouble with my eyes...
If perchance you mean the Palm Treo 750, then you would be mistaken as it is in fact manufactured by HTC...as is every single device that has its own sub-forum on XDA.

I just want to see these devices rooted so we can installed the better Samsung music, video player(I think there is divx support), and if possible the camera software also.

Hey Everyone I posted a new thread with some updated information about the BH2 which may have us one step closer to perm root and recovery and custom ROMS.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=597501

mancsoulja said:
The majority of the site isnt HTC the whole site is HTC lol there mite be some off topic talk about other devices but its not officially supported by the site an never will be
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Then allow me to ask an obvious question: Why would a presumably independent user-run internet forum like this one devote itself entirely and exclusively to one specific manufacturer? Assuming that HTC doesn't actually own this forum, why is such blatant favoritism/discrimination taking place? Does HTC pay some kind of fee to have XDA dedicated entirely to its devices only? I don't get it. Why the preferential treatment?

Don't be disrespectful ... READ the history of XDA and why it came about before you guys take on XDA .,.,., Instead of demanding a forum , lets see if we can get some of the devs interested in these units.... First thing first ,they need to have the phone in hand to work on them , so find one willing and lets get that dev a phone to hack...some of you guys kno how to get a second phone @ no cost (**cough**lost **cough**phone)so do it .,. lets get them hacking this beautiful unit ,.,..,

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Then allow me to ask an obvious question: Why would a presumably independent user-run internet forum like this one devote itself entirely and exclusively to one specific manufacturer? Assuming that HTC doesn't actually own this forum, why is such blatant favoritism/discrimination taking place? Does HTC pay some kind of fee to have XDA dedicated entirely to its devices only? I don't get it. Why the preferential treatment?
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That is like asking Tmonews.com why they only have T-Mobile specific forums and not AT&T and Verizon and Orange and Roger and some Japanese network. It's because it's there site and they just want to focus on one subject. If you want discussion about different phones then this is a site that is not right for you. The owner just wants HTC and he's paying the bills so he will keep it just HTC.

But this site isn't called HTC-Developers, so it isn't obvious to visitors or members where the HTC devotion/bias comes from. Most people get referred here from other forums when looking for WinMo hacks, ROMs etc, not because they were looking for something HTC-specific.
I've actually been a member and regular visitor of this forum for a couple of years I believe, and this is the first time I've ever even heard of this HTC-centricity. It always seemed more generally Windows Mobile/OS focused than manufacturer specific.
In any case I don't recall challenging the site owner's authority or right to gear the site toward whatever he/she wishes. Rather my question was WHY this is the case, as in WHY the devs are devoted to HTC over other manufacturers. There is a significant difference between asking why something is the case, and suggesting that the owner doesn't have the right to make it so. Saying "because the owner wants it that way" isn't an answer to the question "Why does the owner want it that way?".
I did read the history and realize that the site started years ago based on an early HTC device or two; what I don't understand is why it has remained that way. My first vehicle was a tricycle but that doesn't mean I've stayed a tricycle devotee and ignored bikes and cars even to this day.

Back in those days HTC was mainly just making phones for other companies , like Imate tmobile O2 etc..... and they wont branded HTC but , whatever company it was made for . This site was born based on the lack of support these companies provided, you was always redirected to HTC who inturn sent you to your carrier. It has grown since then mostly windows mobile but now has a fast growing android side . They will support HTC androids , but thankfully some of the hacks work on other android devices ... We just have to get devs intrested in these devices and they can post their work here in the android Development section ... I think this would help us a lot

Its too bad, really: the only downside I find to my current phone (Sammy Moment) is that it isn't supported by XDA. My next phone will more than likely be HTC just because I miss all the value added this community provides.

Well if Im not mistaken the moto droid is Motorola and Motorola is not htc or in any form HTC and the acer infact isnt HTC therefore this hole site isnt HTC....

WHAT IN THE WORLD!
Hey, can we get a ROM or not? I just got this Behold 2 and I know DroidDeveloper managed to flash a Galaxy ROM onto it... what is the issues here? Just post some ROMs or post something productive. This phone has been out since December. Since everybody is cheap, I'll buy a dev a Behold 2 so they can start cooking some ROMs up... come on now...

Too many non-development threads are being placed here...

Now that I have your attention, can we please have some organization and forum ettiquette. This forum looks like complete hell and about 85% of the threads started in here belong in the GENERAL section- including THIS thread!
The reason I posted it here is because apparently, nobody knows how to use XDA and it would probably never be read in general. Please read the wiki page and follow forum rules. I am going to contact a moderator asap so that we can get this nasty **** cleaned up right away. It is seriously ridiculous. I come to the Development section of the Captivate forums to find stuff related to actual development(go figure) and not questions or comments about stuff that has nothing to do with development! No wonder the Vibrant development is moving along so much quicker. I think they actually have some people over there with brains and have been able to organize a team of sorts.
If this keeps up we will never have any devs willing to collaborate for this beautiful device.
I am done with my rant but please, please follow rules. If you want to know what a Development section is supposed to look like- go look in the Nexus One Development threads.
Thanks,
Troy

I agree... But that title is just cold man....

I agree, this phone seems to have attracted alot of technological illiterate people coming from an iphone or first time smart phone users that think this place is for technical support, well its not. Call at&t if you don't know how to use your phone.
If the galaxy s community wasn't so segregated we might be able to get something done. 4 forums for essentially the same phone is too much as well. I will contact a mod about this as well.t
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bad topic title, but I dont think all the Galaxy S variants should have their own forums - its annoying and unorganized

It is just that the Vibrant community is already Android literate and so have been on XDA for a while. Captivate people are new to Android and there is no moderator that has taken this over yet to push things to where they belong (including this reply!).

LOL. Funny title. Its sure to get some attention though. I agree and my poor Captivate will continue to sit unused while my Nexus One gets all my attention until some more development picks up.
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I noticed a this and posted a thread in general about getting some organization sadly only 2 replies. No one probably even read it fully.
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It is sad that this area does look pretty unorganized and I agree if you dont know how to use your phone, this development area is not for help.. Post in the General or go to another site. I am hoping we will get some people that are actually Android literate. I am reading more and more being new to Android but not unix/linux and not new to smart phones!
Cheers,
Charlie

Well, thanks for a heart stopping second I experienced when I read the title....but I do agree....but wow....

Thank you!
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I asked if there was a moderator for the captivate forum. I will upate post when I get more info.

Wheres that update.zip again?
After reading the OPs post.. I went on a scanning spree. I'd venture to sat that only about 30% of what's in this 'dev' forum actually pertains to development.. Really is quite frustrating when you're trying to scan pertinent data but using search would be to limiting.
Also.. I LOLd at the topic. Thank you.

I can agree with you about this, but you're not doing a whole lot better yourself posting topics like this with misleading titles. While you're trying to be helpful, you're only adding to the problems. Let the staff deal with the problems. If there are no moderators in the Captivate section, then lets get a few so they can take care of it.

And a Moderator jumps in!
Guys, it's true there are several forums that are lacking dedicated moderation.
After an 18 month hiatus I have "come in from the cold" {walked away from my iPhone} and returned to XDA-Devs. My new decive is, you guessed it, Samsung Captivate!
I'm still learning the new layout and Android but I will spend time working on the clean-up here, just don't expect it to get done overnight.
Feel free to PM me directly with threads that need moderator attention.

shaolin95 said:
Well, thanks for a heart stopping second I experienced when I read the title....but I do agree....but wow....
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LOL! Sorry guys but I had to put a title that EVERYONE would want to open the thread for and this is something that everyone would want to read. I just hope it is effective. I have already contacted a couple of moderators as well.

kyphur said:
And a Moderator jumps in!
After an 18 month hiatus I have "come in from the cold" {walked away from my iPhone} and returned to XDA-Devs. My new decive is, you guessed it, Samsung Captivate!
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Thanks for stepping up to the plate, it is defiantly a cluster f*** in this sub-forum. There are many, many threads that need to be merged, moved and or deleted.
Your future work is much appreciated!

TimF said:
Thanks for stepping up to the plate, it is defiantly a cluster f*** in this sub-forum. There are many, many threads that need to be merged, moved and or deleted.
Your future work is much appreciated!
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I'd bet most of the members here now don't remember how wild the Kaiser forums were for several months after it hit the streets. It's amazing what a few vigilant Moderators can to do a forum with a little time and the help of the user base.
If we seem to over-moderate for a while just understand that you've got to hack away a lot of weeds before you can prune the bushes nicely.

Seeing the title of this thread changed and not by me was the BIGGEST sigh of relief!!! Thank you Moderator for stepping in and I apoligize for getting anyone excited a little early. I felt it was necessary. Hopefully everyone will stay on track now.

God Thank you so much! I can agree. A lot of the Galaxy S community are fairly new to XDA, but I think they will get it eventually

There's always a learning curve, but try to be respectful guys. This is my first Android phone as well, and I'm coming from the iPhone 3G for 2 years and the iPhone 4 for a month. Now, I'm pretty quick with this type of stuff, and I'm not new to messing with phones, firmware, linux, hell, I even messed with Android on the iPhone for a while there, but most of that was way over my head since they needed driver developers, but a lot of us are new here (or back to being new again in my case, since my WM phone before my iPhone).
Please stop being rude to people who aren't as experienced as you. Yes, I understand it's annoying when someone who barely knows how to download an app from the Market wants help flashing firmware or something like that, but hell, I was asking for help with that just a week ago or so too. Use the report button if a topic is in the wrong place rather than belittling the person. We'll progress a lot more if we work together rather than fighting each other.

[Q] Proposal to merge all Galaxy S family into 1 neat and big sub forum

original topic at
[Q] Proposal to merge all Galaxy S family into 1 neat and big sub forum
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=764084

Yes this is exactly what we need. Since the poll is positive, when will we see the forums merge together?
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Great idea. I voted in the orignal thread.

They did it with so many other phones, why not the galaxy s series?
I don't get it, and not many do. I came from the touch pro series and it doesn't bother me to have separate subs; rapheal is a great example of how it works out to combine em in one.
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^bump^
as i don't have any Mod power to make it a sticky, much less make the original topic cross posted across the 5 SGS forums

This would help a lot!

I'd be okay with merging the Vibrant, Captivate, and that Verizon model, but I feel that the Galaxy S is too different in both hardware and software to merge it. Do we really want to be dealing with people who flashed the wrong ROM that was in the same forum?

NickMl said:
I'd be okay with merging the Vibrant, Captivate, and that Verizon model, but I feel that the Galaxy S is too different in both hardware and software to merge it. Do we really want to be dealing with people who flashed the wrong ROM that was in the same forum?
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Actually we have more similarities with the Galaxy S then the Vibrant and Captivate >.>
If you read the post the Development forums will have separate subforums for device specific stuff...but things like General and etc will be merged so more people will be able to assist you..our device are pretty much 95%-99% identical.

I think its a pretty good idea. We don't want development scattered. United we stand strong!

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I think its a pretty good idea. We don't want development scattered. United we stand strong!
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yup! and more development = win for us all...

Please make this happen!

*Flashed back to the Hero forum before they where separate* Horrible Idea wanting to put CDMA and GSM phones in the same area - many a Hero where sent to an early grave by mixing the Dev boards for these 2. Someone posts a GSM radio update and a CDMA guy gets it thinking "Hey, what the Hell, couldn't hurt!" and there goes their $500.00 phone. Then they something about having insurance replace it and a huge debate starts over insurance fraud. And I've been told that insurance on the Epic is a one time use, then they drop it and you are Ef'd on a second one.
So consider this my vote against a huge forum of all GS devices. Also, with the hardware differences on a kernel level I have to think this would be a developer nightmare. As active as all 5 boards are already, there would be no way to keep up as a community to help each other out. Your thread would be buried in 10 minutes and we would have to deal with 5 times as many people asking stupid "Which rom is the best" or "How do I root my phone" questions without searching.

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So consider this my vote against a huge forum of all GS devices.
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The proposition includes having separate development forums for each device. Only the General and Apps forums would be combined. Check out the link in the OP for more info.

lol wouldn't it be funny if they all merged and than the other Galaxy S phones want to divorce from the Epic because of no Tv-Out.
"They're mutants!!!"

sorry about the cross forum posting guys, but until we get this other issue solved
Proposal to merge all Galaxy S family into 1 neat and big sub forum
this is the only way to keep in touch across the separate forums

Based on what iv'e notice

So I've had my vibrant for awhile, and then I got an hd2 again, just to test it out with android, and browsed around the forums ect ect (same thing I would do for my vibrant) and iv'e notice (coming back from the hd2) mostly everyone here is extremely mean, or in a bad mood, thats not welcoming at all, I went to the Nero v5 forum to read up on stuff, and there were people calling each other Bit-hes, and saying there idiots, and arguing over nothing.. People over in the hd2 thread didn't seem to do this, not from what Iv'e read, and you can't say you get mad at reading the same question over and over, people in the hd2 thread simply skip them from what iv'e seen. I'm no panzi or anything, I'm just curios to know why you people are so grumpy, it's just a phone, (a phone that can do AMAZING things) but at the end of the day, it's just you behind a monitor looking stupid by arguing with someone who simply asked a question..
Don't argue with me or anything, I'm just wondering, and if you really have something rude to say, PM me, that's where I finish things

This section of the forum is dead. The only topics that usually reach more then 10 replies are usually repeat topics that start off decent but ends horribly. Its not really the user fault but a combination of samsung, our devs resources, frustratation.
The bad vibe you get is from boredom, vs going to hd2 section where development is extremely active. We don't have much to talk about besides conspiracy, scandal, and what most people think is just bad business. I personally will use custom roms at the end of the day, but devs don't have resources. Users in hd2 section are finally able to get rid of windows mobile. They should be happy.
I think samsung is leaving a bad taste in people mouth with there recent actions.
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What he said. We're really p.o.'ed around here feeling like the man is screwin us and not giving a reach around. Since Sammy wouldn't dare show heir collective corporate faces around here all we're left to do is bi**h at each other sometimes for no apparent reason. At least in this we know someone is listening.
Or I could be wrong and there are just a bunch of Vibrant owners that are real jack off's.
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explodingboy70 said:
What he said. We're really p.o.'ed around here feeling like the man is screwin us and not giving a reach around. Since Sammy wouldn't dare show heir collective corporate faces around here all we're left to do is bi**h at each other sometimes for no apparent reason. At least in this we know someone is listening.
Or I could be wrong and there are just a bunch of Vibrant owners that are real jack off's.
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Seems that both are true. But, regardless of Samsung, I 've noticed the exact same thing, t omost the people here there is nothing but them. If you voice any differences then, go F-urself........ to me it reminds me of high school rivalries. Some ways funny, but mostly immature and annoying. I have a HD2 and the OP is right, the people are just nicer in that forum.

lmao, you think the phone determines who the person is? You think only Vibrant users can have a bad attitude? I think this section of the forum is just fine. And a thread like this will only add fuel to the fire. Especially that last sentence. Lets try not starting more problems by creating a thread to target problems.

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lmao, you think the phone determines who the person is? You think only Vibrant users can have a bad attitude? I think this section of the forum is just fine. And a thread like this will only add fuel to the fire. Especially that last sentence. Lets try not starting more problems by creating a thread to target problems.
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This guys voicing an opinion, and people CAN disagree, but shouldn't just argue.
Its true, people get pissed off by little things here, and even on other forums this happens.
Its just how people talk, if someone has a different view or if their wrong, some guy will come along and call him a idiot, retard...
And that's where the fight has started.

cashyftw said:
So I've had my vibrant for awhile, and then I got an hd2 again, just to test it out with android, and browsed around the forums ect ect (same thing I would do for my vibrant) and iv'e notice (coming back from the hd2) mostly everyone here is extremely mean, or in a bad mood, thats not welcoming at all, I went to the Nero v5 forum to read up on stuff, and there were people calling each other Bit-hes, and saying there idiots, and arguing over nothing.. People over in the hd2 thread didn't seem to do this, not from what Iv'e read, and you can't say you get mad at reading the same question over and over, people in the hd2 thread simply skip them from what iv'e seen. I'm no panzi or anything, I'm just curios to know why you people are so grumpy, it's just a phone, (a phone that can do AMAZING things) but at the end of the day, it's just you behind a monitor looking stupid by arguing with someone who simply asked a question..
Don't argue with me or anything, I'm just wondering, and if you really have something rude to say, PM me, that's where I finish things
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I thought the Vibrant side of the house was bad. That was until I went to the mytouch3g side to play with my wife's old phone that was still sportin donut.
But as already mentioned, I think their hostility comes from boredom. Boredom that should be gone soon, seeing as how they finally started the 2.2.1 OTA for the mytouch 3g this week.
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The hd2 forum maybe calm now but it wasnt before. People asking the same questions over and over there. Many mods had to come in and clean house on de-railed threads. On top of that they get so many noobs who want to install android and dont have the first clue.
Then you had the winmo vs android threads. That would incite fighting through out the hd2 forums.
I myself almost refused to read the Q&A section because of so many repeat topics.
I actually sorta feel it is calm here. There is the slight fighting amongst members but thats to be found anywhere.

hazard99 said:
The hd2 forum maybe calm now but it wasnt before. People asking the same questions over and over there. Many mods had to come in and clean house on de-railed threads. On top of that they get so many noobs who want to install android and dont have the first clue.
Then you had the winmo vs android threads. That would incite fighting through out the hd2 forums.
I myself almost refused to read the Q&A section because of so many repeat topics.
I actually sorta feel it is calm here. There is the slight fighting amongst members but thats to be found anywhere.
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Exactly those first 6-8 months was nothing pretty. The partial reason of it being calm, they have like 20 subforums.