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WM7 on HD2 possible / Wait a worth ?

Hope to see HD2 boot up with WM7 ... Any luck news about this other than http://pocketnow.com/windows-phone/windows-phone-7-shown-on-the-hd2

bryangopan said:
Hope to see HD2 boot up with WM7 ... Any luck news about this other than http://pocketnow.com/windows-phone/windows-phone-7-shown-on-the-hd2
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we just have to wait and watch...
but there is some surity that WP7 will be port to HD2(yeah, we have nice piece of hardware )
Cotulla and his team already playing with WP7

Seems like there's a very good chance.... since all the new windows phone 7 uses the same 1st GEN snapdragon.
Which is also quite disappointing actually if you look at it from a different stand point. Pretty sad launch for HTC and Windows to use dated hardware which has been available since last year. You'd think they use newer hardware to really push a launch of the their new OS, which quite frankly is Microsoft's last chance to try and take back to mobile market......

i like wp7... im waiting quietly ... android works ok an wm is still an okay os.. so im in no rush
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I was thinking of getting a used HD2 to port android. any advice?

Adivce on what excatly? Android or the HD2 itself?

kevinniven said:
I was thinking of getting a used HD2 to port android. any advice?
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If you want an Android phone, GET AN ANDROID phone. HD2 phone works with Android, but its not 100%, and you still have Winmo 6.5 in the background. It simply does not work as good (stability and speed) as a true Android phone. Im sure that IF WM7 gets ported, the same will be true. Close, but not close enough.
The HD2 is a phone for WM6.5 first, and other OS's second.

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If you want an Android phone, GET AN ANDROID phone. HD2 phone works with Android, but its not 100%, and you still have Winmo 6.5 in the background. It simply does not work as good (stability and speed) as a true Android phone. Im sure that IF WM7 gets ported, the same will be true. Close, but not close enough.
The HD2 is a phone for WM6.5 first, and other OS's second.
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I agree with almost all of your points but I can't agree that the Hd2 "won't" be as stable as a true Android phone is when the development has been finalized. Now if you are only speaking about today then "okay, you're right most of the Android builds aren't that stable yet". The Android build that I am using on my HD2 is 100% stable right "Now". As for speed it is faster than 99% of all the current new Android phones out right now. It is speed testing above the Nexus one Android 2.2 which I think almost everyone would agree is pretty fast. The camera being 3 megapixels instead of 5 is the "only" issue it has. The Video camera is actually better on the Android side than it is on Win Mobile side. And my win mobile rom is rock solid.
This next point is very important: The only reason the camera and other issues has not been resolved of yet is because HTC "had" not released the Kernel Source for the Android builds. Just yesterday HTC released the Kernel source of the Desire Z and the G2 which means that the Camera issues and foot print issues on the Desire Z, and Desire HD builds will likely be resolved in the "Very" near future. At which point my Android build which "honestly" is already stable and running faster that the Nexus one android 2.2 will be "Better" than most true Android phones when I choose to use Android.
As to the question that prompted your reply " I was thinking of getting a used HD2 to port android. any advice?". I totally agree with you that If the person asking the question wants a Android phone don't buy the HD2. But if it is choices that is wanted the HD2 is a good option. And it is why I chose to buy an HD2 in spite of the fact that Microsoft said they weren't going to update it to Win 7, which was going to make the 6.5 obsolete, and the available apps compared to the iPhone and the Android Market place are very, very weak. I knew that I would be using the Android Market place apps whenever I wanted to, and in time I would be shopping at the Win phone 7 market as well. Because of Xda developers the HD2 offers it's owners more choices than any other phone right now. And I for one love having choices : - )

Gibbage said:
If you want an Android phone, GET AN ANDROID phone. HD2 phone works with Android, but its not 100%, and you still have Winmo 6.5 in the background. It simply does not work as good (stability and speed) as a true Android phone. Im sure that IF WM7 gets ported, the same will be true. Close, but not close enough.
The HD2 is a phone for WM6.5 first, and other OS's second.
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True but my T-Mobile HD2 with android is way better than a Motorola Cliq on 1.5 lol. Yes I know I shouldnt even compare an HD2 to a slow Moto Cliq

mr_brew said:
This next point is very important: The only reason the camera and other issues has not been resolved of yet is because HTC "had" not released the Kernel Source for the Android builds. Just yesterday HTC released the Kernel source of the Desire Z and the G2 which means that the Camera issues and foot print issues on the Desire Z, and Desire HD builds will likely be resolved in the "Very" near future. At which point my Android build which "honestly" is already stable and running faster that the Nexus one android 2.2 will be "Better" than most true Android phones when I choose to use Android.
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Which (whose) Android are you using, and are you using on the stock 2.13 TMOUS ROM? I was on Darkstone's Froyosense, but the PPP kept dropping connection on me every 8 or so hours, and a 5-minute reboot made it a pain... so unless I can get an RMNET version or stable PPP release, I'm still not using Android as a daily unit (plus, battery life is still poor, although Nexus port has good battery life, but I get the robotic voice... <sigh>).

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Seems like there's a very good chance.... since all the new windows phone 7 uses the same 1st GEN snapdragon.
Which is also quite disappointing actually if you look at it from a different stand point. Pretty sad launch for HTC and Windows to use dated hardware which has been available since last year. You'd think they use newer hardware to really push a launch of the their new OS, which quite frankly is Microsoft's last chance to try and take back to mobile market......
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I can partially agree, but app developers along with the team that worked on this OS certainly need sure specs to be able to develop fragmentation free. Using this slightly older, but still very high end, specifications also allowed the OEMs to make devices with little or no driver development. This strategy is very Apple. This OS will not be 'open' as android or Winmo are. MSFT has alos stated that OTA updates come from them directly, with no red tape from Carriers or OEMs.
Sony's rumored PSP2 is an example. though a few developers have said that they have one, there have been no announcements for any region. these things are years in the making and changing something like the processor may have delayed launch.
Does anyone remember how dated the G1 (dream) looked at it's launch? it didn't even have 3.5mm jack.MSFT is getting this thing out as soon as it can. they don't want to be a Palm, and have devices leak like the pre2 that probably won't even get a date until CES

mr_brew said:
I agree with almost all of your points but I can't agree that the Hd2 "won't" be as stable as a true Android phone is when the development has been finalized. Now if you are only speaking about today then "okay, you're right most of the Android builds aren't that stable yet". The Android build that I am using on my HD2 is 100% stable right "Now". As for speed it is faster than 99% of all the current new Android phones out right now. It is speed testing above the Nexus one Android 2.2 which I think almost everyone would agree is pretty fast. The camera being 3 megapixels instead of 5 is the "only" issue it has. The Video camera is actually better on the Android side than it is on Win Mobile side. And my win mobile rom is rock solid.
This next point is very important: The only reason the camera and other issues has not been resolved of yet is because HTC "had" not released the Kernel Source for the Android builds. Just yesterday HTC released the Kernel source of the Desire Z and the G2 which means that the Camera issues and foot print issues on the Desire Z, and Desire HD builds will likely be resolved in the "Very" near future. At which point my Android build which "honestly" is already stable and running faster that the Nexus one android 2.2 will be "Better" than most true Android phones when I choose to use Android.
As to the question that prompted your reply " I was thinking of getting a used HD2 to port android. any advice?". I totally agree with you that If the person asking the question wants a Android phone don't buy the HD2. But if it is choices that is wanted the HD2 is a good option. And it is why I chose to buy an HD2 in spite of the fact that Microsoft said they weren't going to update it to Win 7, which was going to make the 6.5 obsolete, and the available apps compared to the iPhone and the Android Market place are very, very weak. I knew that I would be using the Android Market place apps whenever I wanted to, and in time I would be shopping at the Win phone 7 market as well. Because of Xda developers the HD2 offers it's owners more choices than any other phone right now. And I for one love having choices : - )
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i totally agree with your comments and would like to add just one thing. There is not much android devices on market which has 1 gb rom and 500mb ram yet on the market. So Android on HD2 is still much better then most of the native android devices on the market even tho working on the sdcard yet. Once nand version is released it is gonna be a killer not only being able to run android but also multibootable! If you only gonna stick with android and you are in need of a new phone then only superior HTC android devices like desire HD might be a better choice imao

kcfong2 said:
Which (whose) Android are you using, and are you using on the stock 2.13 TMOUS ROM? I was on Darkstone's Froyosense, but the PPP kept dropping connection on me every 8 or so hours, and a 5-minute reboot made it a pain... so unless I can get an RMNET version or stable PPP release, I'm still not using Android as a daily unit (plus, battery life is still poor, although Nexus port has good battery life, but I get the robotic voice... ).
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Whenever my data drops I just turn off the wireless 3g network, then turn it back on, and that usually resolves the issue.
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App

I'm using the new hyper droid 1.6.on my hd2 and its daily.don't even touch winmo anymore.battery life its my only complaint.but I like having winmo as a backup. All droid phones have crappy battery.the fact that I can do anything to the droid rom and never worry about my device becoming a brick its great.plus having the option of three OS's (winmo, droid, ubuntu) is better then just having a droid.
Also what is "nand" ? Is it like the computer when you pc your os at boot? Rather then haret?
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I don't mean to be negative, I am actually really happy with my HD2 using WinMo- but I don't get the WP7 hype. I have watched the youtube videos and the OS looks cramped on the phone. I understand that Sense makes our phones look amazing; but I have heard that MS won't allow any Sense on WP7. The ability to customize my phone and make it look COMPLETELY different than anyone else's is one of the biggest draws to any phone; and from what I can see all the WP7 phones look the same!
Has MS done something completely outside the box with this phone that no one is talking about?

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I don't mean to be negative, I am actually really happy with my HD2 using WinMo- but I don't get the WP7 hype. I have watched the youtube videos and the OS looks cramped on the phone. I understand that Sense makes our phones look amazing; but I have heard that MS won't allow any Sense on WP7. The ability to customize my phone and make it look COMPLETELY different than anyone else's is one of the biggest draws to any phone; and from what I can see all the WP7 phones look the same!
Has MS done something completely outside the box with this phone that no one is talking about?
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One could only hope that was the case with WP7 but then again it is microsoft so the chances of it being something outside the box are yet to be seen..

kcfong2 said:
Which (whose) Android are you using, and are you using on the stock 2.13 TMOUS ROM? I was on Darkstone's Froyosense, but the PPP kept dropping connection on me every 8 or so hours, and a 5-minute reboot made it a pain... so unless I can get an RMNET version or stable PPP release, I'm still not using Android as a daily unit (plus, battery life is still poor, although Nexus port has good battery life, but I get the robotic voice... <sigh>).
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Try this combo... I am running Android as a daily driver... data is speedy (2MB Down / 1 MB Up here in Salt Lake City, UT).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=802194
Use the OzDROID ROM here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=774417
Then load the 2.5 update from
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=802194
You will be thoroughly impressed. It may freeze up during the first boot of Android. Just soft reset it and you'll be good to go. I used heavy 3G data all day and still had 40% battery at the end of the day. The touchscreen is much more responsive than with WM.
Good luck...

I think WP7 will eventually come. Android didn't take long because similar hardware with the same drivers launched and it was relatively easy to port. Windows Phone 7 has models that are basically the same hardware too so it should come quickly.

I'm anxiously awaiting this also! I dont use my HD2 anymore, I have an EVO for my regular phone... I love windows mobile though

Gibbage said:
If you want an Android phone, GET AN ANDROID phone. HD2 phone works with Android, but its not 100%, and you still have Winmo 6.5 in the background. It simply does not work as good (stability and speed) as a true Android phone. Im sure that IF WM7 gets ported, the same will be true. Close, but not close enough.
The HD2 is a phone for WM6.5 first, and other OS's second.
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I would not make comments off the cuff without actually knowing the facts. Yes, the HD2 was designed as a device to run WM 6.5 and/or WP7 At that date no one was clear on Microsoft's expectations and a hardware definition had not been made public. A lot of folks believe this was behind T-Mobile upping the Ram and ROM footprint, in the expectation it would be potentially upgradeable to WP7. Then Microsoft shot it down, so HTC has essentially reworked the same hardware with a few tweaks (love the little stereo speakers, not so much the kickstand, which LOOKS cool as hell, but is claimed to be unstable from the rounded base-edge)
That said, the next point is, Windows Mobile does NOT "run in the background" - It is there mostly to initialize the hardware (else we would be in driver hell) and when Haret boots the Android kernel, it first UNLOADS the WM kernel. So no, Android does NOT run on top of WM, as a lot of folks seem to misunderstand.
Finally: Stability and Speed? Okay some builds are just reaching a stable point (remembering that we have only HAD working Android builds for 3 months when they first got it booting properly on 8250 Snapdragon Processor.) and perhaps you have not SEEN the cute little performance graphs, provided bay Quadrant on the builds? (see attached)Even the attached Performance numbers - the SLOWEST I have EVER gotten on my HD2 (Usually see 1500+) blow away the Nexus One running Froyo 2.2, Moto Droid X and Samsung Galaxy S - Three of the hottest Android Phones out there (well, the Nexus is getting a bit long in the tooth)
So, to the guy looking for advice? Lets say that while you CAN run android on it, you WILL have to jump through some technical hoops, and you SHOULD at least have an interest in running WM at least part time, since, as Gibbage pointed out, that was the OS it was originally designed to run.
Oh, and if Windows PHONE 7 gets "ported" (there is no "Port" needed, as the HD7 hardware is almost identical) it will run... well just like it runs on the HD7 (assuming bugs & issues can be worked out)

Things I shouldnt expect from HD2 Android ?

Hi guys,
I might buy a HD2 and I want to do everything that a current DHD or DesireZ can do. So keeping this in mind what are things that I shouldnt expect from HD2 ?
Does it delivers every thing that a nexus one /desire/DZ/DHD deliver ?
I wanted to buy DHD... But its not available in US. Its quite expensive also. And no other options for 4.3 Inch screen
Thanks, Help me decide whether or not to buy this phone as an altenative for desire Z/Desire HD

suhas_sm said:
Hi guys,
I might buy a HD2 and I want to do everything that a current DHD or DesireZ can do. So keeping this in mind what are things that I shouldnt expect from HD2 ?
Does it delivers every thing that a nexus one /desire/DZ/DHD deliver ?
I wanted to buy DHD... But its not available in US. Its quite expensive also. And no other options for 4.3 Inch screen
Thanks, Help me decide whether or not to buy this phone as an altenative for desire Z/Desire HD
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I don't quite understand what you're asking. You're asking for help with a decision, but from what I'm reading, there is only one option?
To answer your more obvious question, I believe development for DHD/DHZ has stagnated, and the only thing it's missing is the camera. Not sure when/if devs will finish that. The Evo, desire, and nexus builds are pretty much 100% done though
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If you're in the US, why don't you buy an Evo? I'm sure the new Sense will be ported to it (if it hasn't been already).

If you want the ability to switch between Windows Mobile and different Android builds, get the HD2.
If you want a native Android phone with similar (not the same though, before the pedants flame me) hardware to the HD2 get the Desire.
If you want a more up dated similar Android phone get the Desire HD.
If you want a hardware keyboard get the Z.
Thats pretty much it sport

Thanks
Coming to a conclusion that this phone is not a pure native android phone
Its better I w8 for Nexus S or go with DHD

As a TMOUS user I would just get the Desire HD if it was my first phone and I had the upgrade option. But I didnt, so I wanted the next best thing, a phone I could convert into a Desire HD, which was the HD2. I found one new in the box on craigs list for $250 and shelled out. Studied up on modding it and made it look like the Desire HD.

I'm also a TMOUS user and found one of craigslist for under 200. Until they come out with a new 4.3 android phone, this will be it for me. I don't get the data drops and the only issue I come across is the 10 second lag in autorotate with the touchscreen. I'll take that. If the Desire HD (or comparable) ever comes to the US that's what I will move to

Looks like camera fix is available on Desire HD builds now....

what you shouldn't expect a droid hd2...prefection.some builds are still WIP or some bugs not resolved.
then we have the nand camp who wants droid on their fone,wiping out winmo completely.this is still WIP.and still some impt issues not resolved.
other than that,hd2 is pretty impressive even with stock winmo.not that much of a diff between dhd other than a updated hardware.
if you like cutomising the hell out of ur fone but lack the money,go for hd2.you get spoilt to booting winmo cooked rom or droid builds available in the forums.

suhas_sm said:
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Coming to a conclusion that this phone is not a pure native android phone
Its better I w8 for Nexus S or go with DHD
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I dont know how you don't know that? It's a windows mobile 6.5 phone. How can a windows phone be a pure native android phone? If you are looking for a phone that can do exactly what a DHD or a Desire Z, you would have to get one of those phones as no other phone currently runs the new htc sense. The closest phone to a DHD or a Desire Z in US is an EVO 4G.

Android useable on the HTC HD2 ?

Hello guys,
I used to be a proud owner of an HTC HD, which I recently sold, and now I am wondering what to buy next. The next phone I would like to own is a phone running Android and I know that HTC HD2 is capable of that. What my question is, if there is a significant difference in the performance between same hardware Android phones and the Android on HTC HD2. In other words, is it worth buying the HTC HD2 for use as an Android phone, or should I pay a little more money and buy a Desire for example. I would also like to know if 3D games are playable on Android on the HTC HD2 (as they werent on the HD, lagged like hell). Thanks in advance

Don't buy an HD2, buy an android phone instead.

PaKo0o said:
Hello guys,
I used to be a proud owner of an HTC HD, which I recently sold, and now I am wondering what to buy next. The next phone I would like to own is a phone running Android and I know that HTC HD2 is capable of that. What my question is, if there is a significant difference in the performance between same hardware Android phones and the Android on HTC HD2. In other words, is it worth buying the HTC HD2 for use as an Android phone, or should I pay a little more money and buy a Desire for example. I would also like to know if 3D games are playable on Android on the HTC HD2 (as they werent on the HD, lagged like hell). Thanks in advance
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well you will probably end up rooting any phone you get anyway apparently. Games have been flawless on my HD2, including a pretty heavy game like heavy gunner 3d. not 1 single bit of lag. But unless you can find an hd2 dirt cheap I'd get the new nexus s

I have also one more question. What is the progress of the Android on the HTC HD2. I know that it is not a ROM yet, is it like the one on the HTC HD (running Haret and its on the SD card) or is it something better? I read of some "Android Builds" but I don't really know the difference. Also will there ever be a Android ROM for the HD2 ?

my advice is if you have money to invest, buy either Desire HD or Nexus S. As much as smooth android runs on HD2, it is still can't be compared to a native android phone, the biggest problem being the battery drain. in standby it is alright, but when you use it it drains a lot.

I use Android on the HD2 because it's the one Tmo USA 3G capable phones hardware that I like that runs Android. I have/had Samsung Vibrant and prefer the HD2 hardware. I'm not a fan of the bulky G2. I like the 4.3" screen, and will not go back to using anything less than 4". I have not tried a MyTouch 4G because it doesn't offer anything compelling to draw me away from the HD2. But I have android running perfectly on my HD2, and it did take a bit of tinkering to get it running the way I want (Some SD cards work better than others, getting the build running, etc). Day to day it's every bit as good (and faster) than my Vibrant. There are a few minor quirks. Like having to unmount the card to install come applications from the marketplace. But, other than boot time there really isn't much advantage going to a phone that comes with Android.

PaKo0o said:
I have also one more question. What is the progress of the Android on the HTC HD2. I know that it is not a ROM yet, is it like the one on the HTC HD (running Haret and its on the SD card) or is it something better? I read of some "Android Builds" but I don't really know the difference. Also will there ever be a Android ROM for the HD2 ?
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It's nowhere near completion and I dont think it'll ever will. Even the blackstone like u said (which has been out for what 2yrs now?) still can't run android natively so you can kiss goodbye the possibility of android running on NAND anywhere in the distant future. It's a nice novelty idea to play around with if you already have an HD2 or familiar with the constant struggle that current developers are facing, but for everyday use, I'd say you're better off getting a pure android phone...much more efficient than what the HD2 can deliver on crutches.

Yeah, if you want to run android, you'll be better off getting a native android phone. Why buy a phone to run a port of android when you can get a phone that was made to run it.
Now if you also want to run winmo and don't mind putting in a lot of time testing out different android builds and working out bugs and quirks of a ported android, then the hd2 is a good phone... but don't expect it to run as well as a native android phone.
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lude219 said:
It's nowhere near completion and I dont think it'll ever will. Even the blackstone like u said (which has been out for what 2yrs now?) still can't run android natively so you can kiss goodbye the possibility of android running on NAND anywhere in the distant future. It's a nice novelty idea to play around with if you already have an HD2 or familiar with the constant struggle that current developers are facing, but for everyday use, I'd say you're better off getting a pure android phone...much more efficient than what the HD2 can deliver on crutches.
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Yes it's taking time because there has been lot's of updates in android going on... and the developers has to keep up with those updates , hence it seems endless... but still HD2 is hell lot of device. and it can't be compared to native android devices....

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rajivshahi said:
Yes it's taking time because there has been lot's of updates in android going on... and the developers has to keep up with those updates , hence it seems endless... but still HD2 is hell lot of device. and it can't be compared to native android devices....
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I think you missed the whole point of what was said...

Well actually, the only thing I'd like to use Android for is the Games. I'm okay with using WinMo the other time (for browsing the net, watching movies. etc.). So I guess thats possible. Also why not buy an Android phone you ask? Well, cause the 4.3 inch Android phones are a hell of a lot more expensive. And one more thing, the HTC HD Blackstone didn't get a full Android ROM because all of the developers migrated to the HTC HD2 Leo.

PaKo0o said:
Well actually, the only thing I'd like to use Android for is the Games. I'm okay with using WinMo the other time (for browsing the net, watching movies. etc.). So I guess thats possible. Also why not buy an Android phone you ask? Well, cause the 4.3 inch Android phones are a hell of a lot more expensive. And one more thing, the HTC HD Blackstone didn't get a full Android ROM because all of the developers migrated to the HTC HD2 Leo.
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So basically the only thing going for you are the 4.3in screen and the fact that it's cheaper than android phones in that price range? I don't know about a 4.3in but most samsung galaxy S line are about $150 with a 2yr contract and you can probably find an X10 for pennies. Unless you REALLLYYY want to dual boot winmo and android, I don't see why anyone would waste their time, money and energy and would get the HD2 just for running android to play games...don't you think that's a little ass-backward? Why would anyone want a winmo phone, running haret on SD card, booting android...just to play android games? hahaha
Oh well, it's your money, do whatever you want with it

If you want android for gaming, I would get something from the Samsung galaxy line... it has a much better gpu, which isn't currently being taken advantage of by apps and games, but since Google's new development phone, the nexus s, is basicly a galaxy phone and has same chipset, future development and games will surely take advantage of it. Basicly, android developers and Google are going to use the nexus s as the standard to develop for like they currently use the nexus one... so many more games will be designed based around the chipset the nexus s and all the galaxy s line of phones use.
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lude219 said:
So basically the only thing going for you are the 4.3in screen and the fact that it's cheaper than android phones in that price range? I don't know about a 4.3in but most samsung galaxy S line are about $150 with a 2yr contract and you can probably find an X10 for pennies. Unless you REALLLYYY want to dual boot winmo and android, I don't see why anyone would waste their time, money and energy and would get the HD2 just for running android to play games...don't you think that's a little ass-backward? Why would anyone want a winmo phone, running haret on SD card, booting android...just to play android games? hahaha
Oh well, it's your money, do whatever you want with it
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I can find one reason. HD2 i very good phone, but if i would like to get just phone i would use Nokia E51 or something similar... I like to play with my device, its kind of toy and HD2 has excellent dev community. Going back to original question. If you want just working device with Android buy something with Android installed natively, but if you don't mind or, like me, like playing with your phone HD2 is very good choice.

Well, I never use WinMo any more.
Android has everything I need.
And it is fast and I seldom experience bugs.
The only real downside is that you really have to be a power user. I spent a lot of hours updating and tweaking. But, then again, I love that
I agree that the HD2 is a nice device. The build quality is extraordinary.
I have had a look at both Desire HD and HD7 -- none of them have as good build quality. Samsung and SE always felt plastic-ish.
If you get a HD2 cheap today - sure, try it out.
But if I were to buy a new phone today - I would probably buy a native Android.

Alright so I thought id give my two cents. I've owned a nexus one and a galaxy s as far as Android phones go. I went back to the hd2 for a couple of reasons. First off, its a lot cheaper than any other phone with comparable hardware. Look on Craigslist Nd you can find a new hd2 for like $200. I like the screen better than the samoled
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Didn't finish, lol. Anyways, the amoled screens aren't as clear as the lcd on the hd2. The colors and contrast of the amoled screens were amazing but I didn't like how you could see pixels. Second, the hd2 has so many roms, even more than the nexus one. And finally, from my experience, the hd2 has been a lot faster than either of those phones. I'm running a desire hd Rom and the quadrant score is higher than either of the phones I mentioned, even after I modded them. Last thing ill say is battery life is definitely not a big problem. Id get about 1 hour more with the nexus one or galaxy than my hd2 with Android. I can easily go 10+ hours on pretty heavy use. Turn internet off and you can go way way longer. So battery life with Android running off an SD card is fine. Oh last thing, changing builds is so easy, just copy a new build on your phone and that's it. So get an hd2. Won't regret it.
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[Q] Does Android 2.2 FULLY Work on the HTC HD2? Plz Help :P

Hi I am a Newbie to all this Smartphone stuff, but recently I was offered to buy a HTC HD2. The Phone Looks like a Beast!! But I hate the Windows Mobile Operating 6.5! I was thinking of buying.... I just recently discovered that you can port Android 2.2 to the HTC HD2, but I had a couple of questions which will help me a lot! I will only Buy the HTC HD2 if I can get Android 2.2 on to the Phone & use it as my Primary OS....
~ My Question is this ~
Is it possible to port Android 2.2 FULLY onto the HTC HD2?? I mean like does everything work? (ie. Wifi, Internet browsing, Apps, Phone, Themes, Movies) All that good stuff and can it be my Primary OS on the HTC Hd2? and I'm with ROGERS, i live in Canada, will the phone work properly with the different radio band?
If someone could help me and answer my question it would be the world to me!
Thanks

ok let me get this straight
if you want to buy a phone and you haven't bought it yet
JUST DONT BUY HTC HD2 IT SUCKS
in fact you can get ondroid on it
but you will face so many problems that make you regret it
like battery drain
not loud speakers
connection problem
lack of space
and ....
if you want to know my opinion
dont by htc it olso sucks
i would go with samsung if i were you
the battery and cpu and screen is much better
or apple
if you buy htc you gonna hate it
that's for sure

Well, A real Android Phone cost about $400, This person is selling the HTC Hd2 to me for $100 so, I like to send less money

well in that case ... i think you'd better get it
it's not all that bad
and over all all those problems that i mentioned are wrapped
so if you want to know the android is fully functional
i'm gonna say yes it is except one ore two problems that are not very important
so if 100 dollars the get congradulations
but it cant be like an android phone
if you want to know more lets talk later becouse i'm gonna sleep
send me a private message and i will answer all your quastions

Please ignore m2shakiba - they are a ridiculously isolated case of trollness! There are hundreds of thousands of satisfied HD2 Android users out there. I'm one of them, and it works flawlessly for me.
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wait a minute ignore me
all those builds out there have some problems
haven't you ever seen dozens of reports of weird problems in Q&A
and of course the change of rmnet to ppp that causes the hole problem
android is ported to hd2 but with lots of bugs and ...

well now i am all confused?? lol there is more than just one build for the HTC HD2?

m2shakiba said:
wait a minute ignore me
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First thing you've said that makes sense.
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Heronization said:
well now i am all confused?? lol there is more than just one build for the HTC HD2?
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There are lots of different builds. Have a look a the HD2 Android NAND and HD2 Android Development threads.
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oh then from your build what doesn't work on your HTC HD2 right now?

ok fine i confess that because of efforts and hard works of people like johncmolyneux we can work with android
and i totally respect them
but ignoring the fact that the android on hd2 is not as good as other phones is unreasonable
and finally the choice is yours if you can really get hd2 on 100 dollars
then leave the rest of the work to us we make the phone like an android phone
maybe a little better in some diraction

Well, I would have to say android 2.2 is fully working on my hd2. I am completely happy and it works better than other android phones imo. Now the issues that other people are having seem to be from not following the directions and not using the proper radio/rom. Combination. At any rate android installation litteraly takes like five minutes. The only issue I have is the battery consumption that is much worse than on energy rom with winmo. However I also mist include that I. Doing alot more on the phone school as facebook always updating sms popup led notifications, gps and what not so I can't fully say the battery crnsumption is horrible also u can always just carry a car charger which is what I do...
Hope that helps
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m2shakiba said:
ok fine i confess that because of efforts and hard works of people like johncmolyneux we can work with android
and i totally respect them
but ignoring the fact that the android on hd2 is not as good as other phones is unreasonable
and finally the choice is yours if you can really get hd2 on 100 dollars
then leave the rest of the work to us we make the phone like an android phone
maybe a little better in some diraction
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Dude, you have serious problems!!
Android is almost as functional as WM, thats for sure, no battery drain, i have no force closes.
I'll risk to say that HD2 is the most "supported" smartphone of all times, hundreds of builds/rom's/themes.

Heronization said:
oh then from your build what doesn't work on your HTC HD2 right now?
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Everything works perfectly on my current build. There is nothing at all I've had problems with. I'm using a Nexus One NAND build.
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@m2shakiba : seriously? you recomend a samsung as a phone brand that has good battery consumption under android, especially the s-amoled ones, I mean, SERIOUSLY?? Have you ever had a HTC HD2 and had any problems with it and left you bitter? I can honestly say that the HD2 community is probably one of the biggest there are of it's kind and that probably means happy owners and the HD2 is ,if not the most, one of the most versatille devices out there, anyway there's a million more arguments I could pose but I won't bother.
@heronization: don't even think twice about buying the device as long as it works properly, check if the touchscreen and buttons respond the way they should ( i mean not pressing in the middle of the screen and it activates the far end of it), once you get the hang of it you won't even consider buying a native android phone. I don't and it's been a year since I bought it and have been using android since the first stable builds came out a few months ago. Thinking about changing my current EU HD2 to a US cause it has 1gb ram instead of 512mb that I have now and that's just about my only problem.

HTC HD2
Android 2.2 is working perfectly on my HD2. I haven't found any problems while using my phone. All the problems mentioned by m2shakiba are already fixed and included in the newest builds. Just follow the instructions and read the contents of the build properly. Most Android 2.2 builds have matured in this forum and more Android 2.3 builds are currently being made. Everything is working on Android 2.2 and battery drains are excellent. 3mA-5mA on standby without wi-fi(which allows your phone to last for more than 2 whole days). If you use your phone regularly, texting here and then, wifi for around 2 hours, it can take you through the whole day. I have a samsung galaxy phone and the battery drain is horrible. I think the devs have made a good job in porting the Android 2.2 to our phone ^^.

m2shakiba said:
ALL YOUR POSTS
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Havent read that much bull**** a long time...
The actual NAND builds (using mdeejays DHD build v2) give 100% functionality, like every other Android phone.
Tell me one, ONE thing that does not work as it used to.
But wait, do u own an hd2?
I dont think so!

best buy phone on world now is HD2

For that price I would definitely say get it. However, I will say that if you are not too tech savy, then you may want to invest in an actual Android phone. I say this for a few reasons.
1. Have you ever jailbroken/rooted/or flashed a phone? If not it can be tricky. Its not hard by any means but you can brick it and you'll have a $100 paperweight.
2. Once you load an OS are you willing to take the time to figure out why something is not working instead of giving up? I can say that the build I have on my HD2 is almost flawless but that is not always the case.
3. Is it the international verion or the T-MoUS version? If it is the T-MoUS version, then go for it. Reason being, is that running HSPL and then Mgldr take up space needed for Android to run and install apps. The US version was blessed which 1gb of RAM so its perfect, but the International version is only 512 MB which is causing some people to have issues. If you are tech savy tho, it won't matter cause there is a fix for that.
Anyway, those are just a few things to point out. I've had my HD2 for almost a year now and the only reason I have it still is the ability to have Android on my phone. I've even decided against upgrading for another year or two for that reason.

m2shakiba said:
wait a minute ignore me
all those builds out there have some problems
haven't you ever seen dozens of reports of weird problems in Q&A
and of course the change of rmnet to ppp that causes the hole problem
android is ported to hd2 but with lots of bugs and ...
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Yep...like ANY OTHER sections... Milestone, Hero, Magic, Dream, N1, Desire...etc. They're full of "problems" too. 95% of them is because of the dumminess of many users. 4% is because of hardware defects, 1% is because of isolated bugs which are solved in very short time. What about HD2? Well it almost runs GINGERBREAD perfectly...while some devices are still with 2.1 Eclair...
I replaced my Milestone with an HD2. Am I satisfied? SURE!
So please stop trolling and saying that sheeps are black just because you met one black sheep...

Good Bye, HD2

Sorry to create a new thread, this is my last one in HD2 Section.
I am happy with my hd2 from the last 11months and in last 6 months I am habituated to test builds and even tried to make builds on my own but ofcourse failed. Usually, I won't stick with a mobile for more than 3 months.
But this Mobile has different OS and it was a powerful one. Now I am fed up with testing Android builds and their stability, battery etc. So I want to use a native Android phone and so I am going to purchase DesireHD with a stock Android rom and I need to concentrate on my studies other than concentrating on XDA and my mobile.
Thanks for all the Developers in HD2 section, especially Cotulla for Android and WP7 on our HD2, Mdeejay but we're missing him a lot , hope he will be back soon and finally Imilka who is currently replacing the work of Mdeejay.
Bye!
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I agree with you. the HD2 has been awesome with the support of the XDA community!

Yea I love the hell out of my hd2 but can't wait to get a native android phone aka htc pyramud.

yeah, HD2 is not for the faint of heart...

HTC Pyramid, here I come..

any pyramid news?
TooHot2Handle said:
HTC Pyramid, here I come..
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i love the hd2 but I am really want a native android device as well. Do you have any other sites or info on the pyramid? i am not happy with the t-mo offering so I will be switching to the mythical device should it actually appear.

yah but finding a 4.3in. screen with 4 different OS is gonna be hard. even the best native android phone with stock sense isgonna b slow compared to hd2
"When i die i wanna be buried face down......so everyone that doesnt like me can KISS MY ASS" - Red Forman

chrisgto4 said:
yah but finding a 4.3in. screen with 4 different OS is gonna be hard. even the best native android phone with stock sense isgonna b slow compared to hd2
"When i die i wanna be buried face down......so everyone that doesnt like me can KISS MY ASS" - Red Forman
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Completely agree... also DesireHD is not even close to HD2... especially if you talk about battery life...

chrisgto4 said:
yah but finding a 4.3in. screen with 4 different OS is gonna be hard. even the best native android phone with stock sense isgonna b slow compared to hd2
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And do you know why they are slower compared to the HD2? Cuz the stock rom hasn't been tweaked to their fullest... While for the HD2, we have our custom roms roms tweaked to the fullest for maximum user satisfaction.
Now when a true android device is flashed with a custom rom, it is also, or atleast should be, tweaked to the fullest. And when that device is on its custom rom, it flies well beyond where our HD2's stopped and fell.
Now i'm not saying our HD2's aren't great for android, heck it is. But people, don't get ahead of yourself and start thinking it's as good or even better than a true 1ghz android device, heck the desire z, at it's 800mhz is better.

My mytouch 4g has more ram, therefore less lag. But I still bought an hd2. Simply for a 4.3" android device on tmous
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Kailkti said:
And do you know why they are slower compared to the HD2? Cuz the stock rom hasn't been tweaked to their fullest... While for the HD2, we have our custom roms roms tweaked to the fullest for maximum user satisfaction.
Now when a true android device is flashed with a custom rom, it is also, or atleast should be, tweaked to the fullest. And when that device is on its custom rom, it flies well beyond where our HD2's stopped and fell.
Now i'm not saying our HD2's aren't great for android, heck it is. But people, don't get ahead of yourself and start thinking it's as good or even better than a true 1ghz android device, heck the desire z, at it's 800mhz is better.
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+1... completely agree there. A lot of people here didn't seem to understand that when they were always posting how the HD2 is faster than native devices... they were comparing a rooted, tweaked device to an unrooted, stock device, and thought it was a fair comparison. And many acted like other phones didn't have their own forums with custom roms and tweaks, and ports of other android phones.
If I just used Android, I would definitely love to get a native phone... but since I've been dualbooting WP7 and Android, I am going to have a very hard time deciding what new phone to get. Right now, Android is definitely capable of more, but seeing what's in store for WP7, and seeing how quickly the homebrew community is taking apart WP7 and learning to tweak and hack it, I know WP7 will catch up quick. I wouldn't be able to decide between to 2... I actually kinda prefer using WP7 as my day to day OS, but there are still too many limitations to completely stick with wp7. I can't play my psx or snes games on wp7, there's no good navigation, and many other things that are missing still. I also love being able to customize my android homescreens. So at this point I like them both about equally, and use them both about the same amount... so I'm gonna be sticking with my HD2 for a while longer... probably at least until the end of the year and I can see where each OS is at and see what hardware is available then. I'm really hoping that they start porting android to WP7 devices, so hopefully I can get a next generation device at some point that can run both OS's again... but it will probablt be a long time, if ever, that we see a device that gets modded and hacked like the HD2 did. The HD2 was a very unique device... there was never a phone that got modded as much and probably never will be again, unfortunately.

Kind of feel the same way I love testing out different Roms for the HD2 and love the screen size but I want to play around with a Native Android phone (Samsung Galaxy S 4G) to see whats its all about plus it would be nice to finally be able to charge a phone while its turned off. Im stilling going to keep my HD2 though I still feel like its one of the top phones out.

JDM_HD2 said:
Kind of feel the same way I love testing out different Roms for the HD2 and love the screen size but I want to play around with a Native Android phone (Samsung Galaxy S 4G) to see whats its all about plus it would be nice to finally be able to charge a phone while its turned off. Im stilling going to keep my HD2 though I still feel like its one of the top phones out.
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dont be in any hurry. you really are not missing much. those samsung android phones do have an amazing screen though. just saying that if you are going to upgrade, make sure whatever you are getting is a worthy upgrade. flashing these custom roms and trying to find the "perfect" and "flawless" android build for our hd2's can be annoying at times but its doable..
but i guarantee, like most of us you want the most out of your device and you will end up rooting and flash custom roms on your new android smartphone just like you do now. and like many, you will also run into problems and those custom roms will always not be the most stable... just like some of these android roms for the hd2...
if you are on tmobile i would try to wait it out. see what the pyramid is all about and what other android smartphone will come out for tmo. the build quality alone makes the hd2 on a different level than most smartphones out there.

shree.cse said:
Sorry to create a new thread, this is my last one in HD2 Section.
I am happy with my hd2 from the last 11months and in last 6 months I am habituated to test builds and even tried to make builds on my own but ofcourse failed. Usually, I won't stick with a mobile for more than 3 months.
But this Mobile has different OS and it was a powerful one. Now I am fed up with testing Android builds and their stability, battery etc. So I want to use a native Android phone and so I am going to purchase DesireHD with a stock Android rom and I need to concentrate on my studies other than concentrating on XDA and my mobile.
Thanks for all the Developers in HD2 section, especially Cotulla for Android and WP7 on our HD2, Mdeejay but we're missing him a lot , hope he will be back soon and finally Imilka who is currently replacing the work of Mdeejay.
Bye!
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u could give hyperdroid by pongster a shot.. its really very stable and smooth as well as fast.. definitely a daily use build..

fi3ry_icy said:
u could give hyperdroid by pongster a shot.. its really very stable and smooth as well as fast.. definitely a daily use build..
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I am using Imilka's glacier sense 1.3 from the last 25 days exactly from Feb3. I don't find any other build stable and better than this with sense even colourful. Thank you! I will try
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This is truely an amazing phone, intending to keep it till the end of the year, then going for the pyramid probably, or another smartphone with Android.
But ye, again, great phone.

Got my new DesireHD, rooted and now its with Gingerbread sense 2.1
Pretty happy in upgrading from HD2
I can see a lot difference in performance on DesireHD
Very Thankful to all the Android developers.
Sent from my Desire HD

Htc hd2 is the best at least till now

JDM_HD2 said:
Kind of feel the same way I love testing out different Roms for the HD2 and love the screen size but I want to play around with a Native Android phone (Samsung Galaxy S 4G) to see whats its all about plus it would be nice to finally be able to charge a phone while its turned off. Im stilling going to keep my HD2 though I still feel like its one of the top phones out.
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Yeah man i wanna do that also someday, not now No Budget!
However, we can charge our phone when they are OFF with Magldr 1.11!
Last week my battery died so i freaked out hearing/reading that it wont charge etc... I plugged it for about 4 or 5 hrs and then i switched it on and SURPRISE!! It booted and had 60% battery!
Only minor issue is that you will have to unplug-replug the battery!

i think it is about 6-7 monthes before the hd2 forum is empty like all old phones , but it was the best phone i've ever had , and won't upgrade untill a similar htc phone is released , The only thing i'll be sad about is you xda developrs and hd2 community , we will be distributed among different phons and forums