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When I first rooted my G1 I rooted to Super D 1.9.2 and thats when I realized my G1 still has balls. Now ever since I updated to 1.9.3 it is very slow and laggy. I even wiped and flashed about three times; once a direct update from 1.9.2, once a full wipe the flashed from sd card with redownloaded ROM, and once a flash without wiping from 1.9.2.
Also everytime I use nandroid or backup for root users my G1 goes into bootloop.
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have you tried the version with WG-beta 3 kernal yet?
Do you have any swap or cc enabled? If so, how much of either and/or both? Have you tried different settings? What about turning both off?(thats the best in my opinion)
Are you using jit Hack? Correctly installed? (hence all the threads and post going around with everybody's method of using it, and roms with it packaged,lol)--EDIT: also found to be unstable and a ram hog-Cyan
Is home screen in memory or out? (better out if you don't use a lot of widgets)
You wiped 3 times huh?, Did you full or half a** wipe?(meaning data,dalv,ext,battery and rotate settings-thats full wipe) well have you also repaired ext?, fixed permissions?, re-partitioned?, re-flashed 1.6 base?(helps, sometimes.)
Did you flash any 3rd party packaged or compiled zips over it? such as boot.imgs, themes, launchers and stuff like that? (if so, that could be the problem)
Did you reboot at least once after a fresh install? if not, Please do. Usually by second or third boot, everything is running smooth.
How many apps you got? Have you installed any new ones since the lagging started to happen? (if so, get rid of them, or re-install them, that should clear any bad data and cache carried along with it)
Have you tried customizing yourself? Some folks like to push the old contact apk because the newer versions have too many features, causing slow downs
Have you un-installed any eclair or useless system apps?
Are you killing unwanted background processes properly?
ok now....before you attempt to answer any of these questions with a reply or quote...STOP I don't want or expect a response, these questions are what you should be asking yourself, and sometimes that can help you solve your own problems, by taking all of these concepts into consideration, and re-evaluating them for different results.
all in all, the most important question you should ask yourself, DID YOU SEND A DETAILED LOGCAT TO THE DEVELOPER HIMSELF (BEN) BEFORE POSTING THIS THREAD COMPLAINING ABOUT HIS WORK?
if not, then Im sure you will figure out what to do from here , good day sir.
Thanks for your time I guess its te for me to get working.
I just remembered that everytime I use backup for root useres it kills my phone and shuts it off then it becomes slow.
I tried out Super D w/ wg-kernel 2 days ago and found it pretty laggy. For some reason installing apps would take forever and my navigation app wouldn't install at all.
1337rolla said:
I tried out Super D w/ wg-kernel 2 days ago and found it pretty laggy. For some reason installing apps would take forever and my navigation app wouldn't install at all.
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what do you use to install your apps? the market or a backup tool?
1337rolla said:
I tried out Super D w/ wg-kernel 2 days ago and found it pretty laggy. For some reason installing apps would take forever and my navigation app wouldn't install at all.
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I have that problem too.
I install apps with astro and adb. Both are equally slow because I'm pretty sure it is using the sd card only and avoiding using internal memory at all costs... bit too aggressive of a setup. I think my navigation app failed to install correctly because some part of the installer was time sensitive and writing to the sd card went over the clock limit
I've had ****ty market performance in every ROM I've used. Market in SuperD w/ WG Kernel behaves exactly the same for me. Installing using ASTRO works excellent for me, however. No CC/Swap. JIT enabled.
yeah I got astro too...never tried installing system apps with it though....I mostly use root explorer, but hey, either way...tomato - tomatto....all the same.
I too found Super D 1.9.3 runs really laggy on my G1. I tried all sorts of compcache settings (including off) and started using Adv Task Manager to end non-required apps regularly but it made no difference
Strangely, I then flashed it to my Magic and found it's alot smoother. Maybe not as fast as Dwang but still pretty smooth. Wes Garner reckons the only thing which will slow down a 32B G1 compared to a 32B Magic is Apps2SD.
I did not wipe battery and rotate info on either phone, I didn't think that would cause any problems, though the G1 has had a longer life so perhaps that's the issue.
Super Jamie said:
I too found Super D 1.9.3 runs really laggy on my G1. I tried all sorts of compcache settings (including off) and started using Adv Task Manager to end non-required apps regularly but it made no difference
Strangely, I then flashed it to my Magic and found it's alot smoother. Maybe not as fast as Dwang but still pretty smooth. Wes Garner reckons the only thing which will slow down a 32B G1 compared to a 32B Magic is Apps2SD.
I did not wipe battery and rotate info on either phone, I didn't think that would cause any problems, though the G1 has had a longer life so perhaps that's the issue.
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always wipe battery and rotate setting when going to a different rom, you don't have to do it if you are updating, or just flashing over the current rom, but if you are going to a whole new build, meaning different kernel or base like from 1.6 to 2.1 for example, wipe the battery and rotate settings.
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always wipe battery and rotate setting when going to a different rom, you don't have to do it if you are updating, or just flashing over the current rom, but if you are going to a whole new build, meaning different kernel or base like from 1.6 to 2.1 for example, wipe the battery and rotate settings.
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Cool, thanks for the tip
do you got on swap or compcache???? i dont hav on either and my fone is fast as hell
NEW THREAD HERE
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=765822
THIS IS NOW AVAILABLE IN EXT2, EXT3, AND EXT4 VARIATES(DOES NOT REQUIRE CUSTOM KERNEL!)
IF YOU ARE USING JH2/JH3 FIRMWARE, READ THIS POST, IT IS VERY VERY VERY IMPORTANT:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7650658&postcount=312
The reason this step is important is that the JH2 firmware is a test build, and as a test build it has GPS logging enabled... this uses an absolutely ludicrous amount of storage space- and the real kicker? It uses the space OUTSIDE of this fix, meaning your phone will encounter low space warnings very quickly if not instantly upon applying the fix!
THIS NOTE IS FOR EVERYONE. THESE FIXES WORK BETTER FROM A FRESH FLASH. THEY *CAN* WORK WITHOUT A CLEAN FLASH BUT REALIZE THAT YOU ARE POTENTIALLY PUTTING YOUR DATA AT RISK!
What this does (Shamelessly stolen from RyanAZ's OP)
Creates a VIRTUAL EXT2 filesystem inside the stock RFS filesystem on the internal SD card, with a 4KB block size. This means that this lag fix creates a buffer between the real filesystem and the android system. This buffer should reduce the amount of disk I/O required for all operations by utilizing EXT2 buffering, as well as not writing file access times to disk, etc.
PROS
Doesn't rely on external SD
Easy to do
Reverse-able
Real, noticeable performance increases outside of Quadrant (Seriously don't pay attention to Quadrant, but if that's what you care about this will make your pants tighter)
CONS
Uses EXT2 file system which is non-journaled and CAN become corrupted, frequent backups are strongly recommended! (2.2 Implements error checking every 30 mounts)
It's also up for debate as to whether this adds extra strain on your internal memory.
1.0 SECTION WILL FOLLOW 2.0 STUFF
AS WITH ANY FIX: READ THE INFO, KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING, AND UNDERSTAND POTENTIAL CONSEQUENCES!
LINKS TO GET THE GOODS BELOW!!
The RyanZA version that does EXT2 is Available at the thread linked below
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=751864
RyanZA has put out an APK version of the fix for people less comfortable doing the update.zip or batch file methods! (This is the V1 lagfix, so for people having issues with the newer fixes this one might work for you!)
TEMPORARILY DOWN UNTIL VERSION 2.3
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=760571
There is also an update.zip version that does EXT2, EXT3 (1500 Quadrant), or EXT4 (1800 quadrant) versions thanks to Tayutama! I've tested this to work on JH2, and JM5 firmwares! There is also a special version for Captivate JH2 (It also works for JH3) that fixes the GPS Log issues so no need to edit the XML's yourself!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7632258&postcount=208
praveer01 threw up a handy writeup for those of you running Unbuntu or any other Linux system:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7671640&postcount=583
READ THE INSTRUCTIONS AND REMEMBER THIS IS *VERY* BETA, NEITHER RYANZA OR MYSELF WILL TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR MELTING YOUR DEVICES OR KILLING YOUR DOG IF THIS FAILS. That said, this thread has been very good about helping people who borked their Captivates with 1.0
Here's the reasons you'd want to do this:
Benefits over version 1
1.7GB of application data available, with no data loss. (Up from < 1GB)
e2fsck of the EXT2 partition on each boot. (To scan and fix corruption!)
Correct busybox version included! YES! (Because no one can get it right =P)
/app directory included in the fix for faster application installs.
Mounts instead of symlinks for extra performance as OS does less work (about 100 or so more quadrant).
2.3 Changelog
/dbdata has been removed. This fixes maps issues.
/app-private is now a symlink to /app/app-private. This fixes paid apps issues.
2.2 Changelog
/app-private is included
A second EXT2 partition is created in fast /dbdata storage. /dbdata/databases are moved inside here for increased speed in applications that use it. (System apps mostly, I think)
Proper parameters for e2fsck.
0% space reserved in the EXT2.
EXT2 partition reduced from 1.7GB to 1.5GB to allow more space for captivate users.
Running from a stock install of JH2 I'm currently getting 2300 quadrant scores with ALL AT&T BLOATWARE AND TW ENABLED!
IF YOU'RE NEW TO THIS KIND OF THING, OR ARE WORRIED ABOUT POSSIBLY HAVING TO REFLASH YOUR PHONE, YOU PROBABLY SHOULD WAIT A LITTLE WHILE FOR MORE PEOPLE TO TEST THIS!
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Found this over in the i9000 forums and tested it myself- I'm getting 2100+ quadrants scores with the stock Captivate kernel and it doesn't hang up on the I/O portion like all the other fixes... in addition you don't require an SDcard for this to work.
Original thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=748596
One of the folks over there created a one-click lagfixer and it DOES work for the Captivate:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=749495
FOR PEOPLE WHO DONT WANT TO READ THE ORIGINAL THREAD
This fix creates a 1GB file formatted in EXT2 and moves all of your apps, data, dbdata into it which DRASTICALLY improves I/O performance. One advisory SHUT YOUR PHONE DOWN PROPERLY, this means no yanking the battery out. Due to it being EXT2, non graceful shutdowns CAN cause corruption.
Edit: No wake up lag either- not sure if that's due to using a non-modded kernel or because the ext2 file is located on the internal memory.
Edit 2: Make *SURE* before attempting this that you have Busybox 1.17.1 or the boot animation script calls won't work!
Link to Busybox 1.17.1
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7574130&postcount=229
DO NOT UPGRADE BUSYBOX TO 1.18! 1.18 REMOVES MAKEFS WHICH IS NECESSARY FOR THIS PROCESS
Edit 3: I haven't used the stock Captivate ROM for a while, but this feels quite fast- Also worth noting that this SHOULD work with any ROM- including i9000, I might test that later but I'm enjoying having functioning haptic feedback. 2200 Quadrant with Shootme and market running! Since seeing is believing I've thrown in a screen cap.
Confirmed working with JM5 ROM
IF YOU USE A MAC OR JUST CAN'T GET ADB TO WORK THIS FIX CAN BE PERFORMED WITHOUT A PC- SEE THE POST BELOW:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7583565&postcount=116
Ha! it worked thanks dude you should rename this thread with brackets. " [Fix][Lag] Alternative by {author name} - alpha " .. so it can gain more attention. Just we need two more fixes GPS and my attenna issues then i'm good with my captivate.
[edit]omg my phone is flying see this is how my phone should have been out the box it flies!
rebooting from this now. I should not that I had to run the shell script manually because it kept not prompting me for SU...? No biggy though.
Will test, can't post screen from work though.
Edit: running quadrant....
Edit: ... *thud* 1961, 2237 ( FB, gmail, etc were running & syncing in background last time!)
mykenyc said:
Ha! it worked thanks dude you should rename this thread with brackets. " [Fix][Lag] Alternative by {author name} - alpha " .. so it can gain more attention. Just we need two more fixes GPS and my attenna issues then i'm good with my captivate.
[edit]omg my phone is flying see this is how my phone should have been out the box it flies!
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Title change done!
Glad this is working for you guys, I've tried every fix so far and this one is MILES ahead of the others in terms of real world improvement (At least for me).
Zilch25 said:
Title change done!
Glad this is working for you guys, I've tried every fix so far and this one is MILES ahead of the others in terms of real world improvement (At least for me).
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I agree! waking up this morning in fear of being fired from my job, this made my day a little lol.
Besides downloading the .zip file, do i need anything else?
Also, i am assuming we install this by booting into recovery mode?
Thanks
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LockeCPM4 said:
Besides downloading the .zip file, do i need anything else?
Also, i am assuming we install this by booting into recovery mode?
Thanks
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Nope just run lagfixme.bat this in the zip file, run and leave your phone screen on so you can see the root request permission.
LockeCPM4 said:
Besides downloading the .zip file, do i need anything else?
Also, i am assuming we install this by booting into recovery mode?
Thanks
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Nope, you don't need anything else. Also nope, no recovery mode shenanigans, just unzip the file, turn on debugging mode on your phone, plug her in, and run the batch file!
Also you MUST undo any prior lag fix
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again, those high quadrant scores mean nothing unless you get no lag in real world testing. Such tests can be done in the following apps: Dolphin HD browser, facebook, twitter, touchdown, k-9 email
All common applications that have serious lag on the SGS. Assuming that this method does fix I/O problems (Especially the I/O quadrant tests), there should be no lag in those apps. Anyone try?
I noticed this in the original thread:
EDIT3 09 aug 0033HKT:
it's not for the benchmark only, instead, it has very good effects on ur phone's io
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Sounds good, I'll give it a try
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again, those high quadrant scores mean nothing unless you get no lag in the following apps: Dolphin HD browser, facebook, twitter, touchdown, k-9 email
All common applications that have serious lag on the SGS. Assuming that this method does fix I/O problems (Especially the I/O quadrant tests), there should be no lag in those apps. Anyone try?
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I know you have your reservations about these fixes, and you've been very vocal about your opinions on the matter. I happen to agree with you on most points, but as someone who has tried all of these, I can tell you this doesn't feel like the placebo effect. I'll install DolphinHD and toy with it, but everything I've messed with so far seems much snappier. Feel free to try it yourself, it literally takes less than 5 minutes to install, and is completely reverse able.
Edit: So far with dolphin HD things feel snappy, the only exception is pages absolutely laden with flash lite ads... but that's not really an I/O issue, if you've got any particular web site recommendations I'd be glad to check them out and let you know my mileage
So far so good, I recently erased my phone (130mb lag fix not big enough). And this is working wonderfully so far, dolphon browser HD(my favorite browser) works very fast. So far so good, I'll report back when I've tried it for the whole day.
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I know you have your reservations about these fixes, and you've been very vocal about your opinions on the matter. I happen to agree with you on most points, but as someone who has tried all of these, I can tell you this doesn't feel like the placebo effect. I'll install DolphinHD and toy with it, but everything I've messed with so far seems much snappier. Feel free to try it yourself, it literally takes less than 5 minutes to install, and is completely reverse able.
Edit: So far with dolphin HD things feel snappy, the only exception is pages absolutely laden with flash lite ads... but that's not really an I/O issue, if you've got any particular web site recommendations I'd be glad to check them out and let you know my mileage
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Thanks! I'll give it a try as I don't like being tied down to 130mb for application storage using the NAND fix.
Basic usage should be snappy:
- opening\closing\switching tabs
- scrolling with the volume buttons
- pinch zooming
- loading multiple pages
On stock, and even mimocan's fix, it would lag horrible to the point of unusability.
The only way to make it run smoothly and quickly was to move all your /data/ to the /dbdata/ on the NAND (but limited to 130mb of app space)
I guess my install question wasnt answered. You said run the .BAT file, do i run it on my pc? And what software on the pc side must i have installed?
Thanks for helping a noob!
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Zilch25 said:
I know you have your reservations about these fixes, and you've been very vocal about your opinions on the matter. I happen to agree with you on most points, but as someone who has tried all of these, I can tell you this doesn't feel like the placebo effect. I'll install DolphinHD and toy with it, but everything I've messed with so far seems much snappier. Feel free to try it yourself, it literally takes less than 5 minutes to install, and is completely reverse able.
Edit: So far with dolphin HD things feel snappy, the only exception is pages absolutely laden with flash lite ads... but that's not really an I/O issue, if you've got any particular web site recommendations I'd be glad to check them out and let you know my mileage
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Tested:
Gmail, FB (official), GVoice, messaging, TWC, stock browser, andoku (yeah, I can SEE it faster. and thats a simple app!)
LockeCPM4 said:
I guess my install question wasnt answered. You said run the .BAT file, do i run it on my pc? And what software on the pc side must i have installed?
Thanks for helping a noob!
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Plug it into your pc making sure the USB debugging is on. Download the zip file, extract all of it. Run the Lagfixme.bat and make sure you leave the phone screen on (tap it if low time out) to accept the super user permission request. After that it will finish on it's own. Just reboot the phone by shutting it down. The zip file contains all the necessary files.
Edit: and make sure your phone is rooted / has the drivers installed!
LockeCPM4 said:
I guess my install question wasnt answered. You said run the .BAT file, do i run it on my pc? And what software on the pc side must i have installed?
Thanks for helping a noob!
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The zip file actually contains a copy of the adb as needed, so other than the drivers to be able to connect via USB Debugging, nada.
All I can say is wow. Definitely not placebo. Certain apps used to take forever to initialize (i.e. Facebook, Market). They now start up almost instantly.
I have not tried any of the other "fixes" because to me they break more than they fix. I don't want to use my external SD in a way that makes it non-swappable and I don't want to be restricted to 130mb for apps. This fix is the best so far. I'm guessing it may not be necessary once we have Froyo (double the RAM) but it does the trick for now.
Seemingly didn't work for me, my Quadrant scores are still sitting at 948. I'm on the stock ROM, and undid the previous speed fix I had.
LockeCPM4 said:
I guess my install question wasnt answered. You said run the .BAT file, do i run it on my pc? And what software on the pc side must i have installed?
Thanks for helping a noob!
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It was answered:
You need root
Download zip file- unzip it.
Put phone into debug mode and plug in USB
run the included .bat file from the zip file and it will do the rest for you.
It has it's own adb.exe but you might need to install the SDK if you haven't already. That's it though.
Hi everyone.
Id like to start a thread where we collect, post and discuss all known individual tweaks and changes that can be made to the Galaxy Tab in order to gain performance and stability.
My experience with the Galaxy Tab has been similar to my latest phone, an HTC HD2. When I got the HD2 about one year ago, I positively hated it... slow, unstable, all sorts of problems, lags, crashes... its the way most of the hardware today is released. One year later, my HD2 has become the most amazing machine I've ever owned. From pushing it 1.6GHz stable, to tweaking registry, XML files, services and making everything work well. I remember not being able to watch smooth video on the HD2 to being able to watch flawlessly 720p content and going from the extreme of detesting the phone to loving it.
It was with the HD2 I discovered Android and fell in love with it. Since I have now two HD2s I have one with an SD ROM version of Gingerbread (that I can dual boot still from Windows Mobile) and a Froyo NAND. I run Android on the HD2 much much much faster and smoother than on the Galaxy Tab, that I also hated when I bought it a few weeks and that am starting to like after getting to know it, a new ROM, apps, etc. Even at 1GHz stock the HD2 with Froyo is vastly faster, smoother, more responsive and better to use. The approach d like to do as far as tweaking the Galaxy Tab is the same as I did for the HD2 with Windows Mobile, that is, install the best/fastest ROM I can, delete and remove all stuff I don't need and then tweak what's left.
The tweaks I've done so far on the Galaxy are simple but have made a huge difference. Id like with this thread to be able to collect individual tweaks and post them all here to share with everyone.
Im using Roto JMI Pre-Rooted Firmware v2 which was the main step after getting rid of the stock Samsung Rom that is nothing but a collection of problems.
The first thing I learned with this Tab is that WHATEVER IS ON YOUR HOME SCREENS THAT MOVES, IS BAD! Forget about having ANY type of apps or widgets that do any type of refresh, including stuff running on the upper task bar if they change icons or the move around… that mean a CPU cycle and refresh each time and there goes the tab's performance and battery life. The same goes for any type of Live Wallpaper. Beautiful but deadly. Never touch them!
- So, after a new ROM, the first thing I did was changing the file system to EXT4. This is the SINGLE BEST THING you can do to radically improve the performance of the Tab. Its extremely easy to do and the step-by-step instructions are as follow:
- Make sure you have an miniSD Card in with plenty of available space (it will be used automatically to backup your system during the conversion process)
- Get p1000-mck-r3-ext4-cwm.tar (the EXT4 Conversion Kernel)
- Connect the Tab in Downloading Mode to your PC via USB, start Odin3 1.7 and load the Kernel (click on the PDA button and select the p1000-mck-r3-ext4-cwm.tar and make sure PDA stays ticked after selecting the file).
- UNTICK Re-Partition check box and make sure the only boxes ticked are:
Auto Reboot
F. Reset Time
The PDA tickbox
- Click start and wait for PASS! (it will show highlighted green or Yellow on Odin)
- Now the Tab will restart and get stuck on the Samsung loading screen. This is normal. Turn it off by holding the power button for 5 seconds.
- Turn on the Tab again on into RECOVERY mode (Press Volume UP and Power On at the same time) and the EXT4 conversion will start automatically. The process will take up to one hour depending on how much stuff you have on your Tab. It took about 10 minutes on mine because I have a fresh install of Roto JMI v2.
- Once finished, click "Reboot System Now" (by pressing the power button).
- The reboot may take a while first time so be patient!
- Done!
- After that, the first tweak I did was to get rid of all my favorite widgets that moved around… net meter, news, weather and all these beautiful things KILL the Tab. Equally I had a CPU meter on the tray refreshing every 2 seconds and it took me a while to figure out that was the reason why every 2 seconds the system would stutter, whether watching a movie or browsing the web. So, out!
- Next was to install SetCPU under the ON DEMAND setting, minimum around 750MHz and maximum 1000MHz (unfortunately only with a custom Kernel you can go higher, currently up to 1.4GHz but not full stable and with lots of issues pending so I don’t recommend it)
- My following step was to get rid of the stock Samsung Homescreen (that is a resource hog and slow as hell) and replace it with a new one. I've tried them all and am making no recommendation here but the one that works for me and is by far the best IMO is LauncherPro. This single app makes using the Tab a whole better experience.
- Next was to disable the USELESS and (resource pig) Gallery and replace it with an app called QuickPic that is blazing fast (actually instant) and simply amazing to browse and view all media on the Tab.
- Next was to greatly improve the poor native GPS reception by replacing high performance files and drivers from the Orange Rom P1000JHKA1 that seems to work on all versions of the Tab, as originally posted here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=922692
- With SystemApp Remover 4.12 I have disabled all system apps and services I don’t need (BE VERY CAREFUL AND DON'T REMOVE ROM APPS YOU WILL NEED). I have actually deleted some from ROM (Root access required of course), this includes useless stuff like STK Service starting every time, most of the Samsung stuff that I really don’t care for and just about all apps I know for sure I will never open a single time. Now, its important to understand if these apps are removed they will be removed PERMANENTLY from ROM so to get the back a hard reset will not be enough, you'll have to fully flash the ROM again. For most system apps I don’t use but am not sure, I use a different option and that is to simply disable them. In my case this includes all Bluetooth stuff (I never use it and even if it's off the Services are still running robbing performance and memory) and apps like the built-in Browser, Email and Messaging that suck and that I replaced with better apps. Its always a safer bet, at least initially to disable the apps you don’t need that uninstall them because at least you can go back and change your mind This is one area where Id like to learn more. There are many background services that I don’t know what they do and if they can be disabled or not. If someone knows what each one does and the safety of getting rid of them OR NOT, it would be great to post it here!
- Them, with Startup Auditor 2.3.2 I have disabled all unnecessary apps that start automatically every time the Tab boots so I don't have excess applications starting up that are not needed. Some I configured to be killed AGAIN if the system tries to restart them later after the boot-up
- Using Task Manager 1.0.7 and letting always run on background, I have configured all apps that I don’t need running to be auto-killed every time the phone goes to stand-by (screen off). This saves me lots of memory and CPU time on apps that I am actually not using.
- Finally, I monitor what is going on with an app called CPU Usage Timeliness Free 1.7.1.0 and use it to see EXACTLY which applications are using CPU cycles and interfering with performance. With it I have found that on my Tab I have an unsolved problem that is using over 100MB of memory and non-stop CPU usage between 15% and 45% of something called SECURITY STORAGE. I have no idea what it does. It can't be disabled and I don’t know where all the activity comes from. If someone know more about this and how to fix it, that will be great. Most of the performance issues I have on my Tab come from this Service that I don’t know how to tame. Surely, we can find a solution.
The system background services is one area where I'd like to know one by one, what each service does and if we need them or not, if it can be tweaked, disabled or deleted. Below is a complete list of the services I have safely disabled so far that have given me great performance boosts and with no negative issues on the system (IN BOLD), and OTHERS I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT (not bold). Please note these are background services that start automatically. The changes made to the disabled apps/services is that they are reverted to ON-DEMAND so they all still work perfectly.
CALENDAR
CALENDAR STORAGE
COM. SEC.ANDROID.PROVIDERS.DOWNLOADS
CSC
DOWNLOAD MANAGER
DRM CONTENT
EMAIL
GALLERY
GOOGLE PARTNER SETUP
GOOGLE SERVICES FRAMEWORK
MARKET
MEDIA STORAGE
MESSAGING
MUSIC
SAMSUNG ACCOUNT
SERVICE MODE
SNS
WIPEOUT RECEIVER
WORLD CLOCK
Furthermore I uninstalled several of the Samsung Apps I don’t use and STK Service and disabled these system Apps I don’t use (YOU SHOULD CHOOSE THE ONES YOU WANT TO ENABLE OR DISABLE AS YOU MIGHT HAVE DIFFERENT NEEDS):
All Bluetooth Services
All LiveWallpapers Services
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Originally with my Tab I was getting Quadrant below 600 on average. Now, its always over 1900. This is not a "little" improvement, this is amazing upgrading. But id like this to be a starting point to learn and share more ways with everyone we can all share on things we can do to make the Tab as good as it was intended to be for everyone
Cheers!
1.4 oc is stable, and doesn't have any issues for alot of users.
all the things you disabled are all the things i use every day lol
never the less, good post, im going to use a couple apps you mentioned.
natious said:
1.4 oc is stable, and doesn't have any issues for alot of users.
all the things you disabled are all the things i use every day lol
never the less, good post, im going to use a couple apps you mentioned.
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The first block of disabled items (in bold) from CALENDAR to WORLD CLOCK are disabled start-ups but the apps works as usual. It just frees resources not required on boot till you actually start the application when you want.
The second block from Bluetooth Services to Voice Search are all disabled as I use none of those. Items disabled can be restarted again at any time upon activating them follwing a reboot, while items deleted (like Samsung Apps and STK) are gone forever.
Ive never flashed a ModaCo Kernel and got lots of feedback regarding probelms with 1.4OC. Do you have any issues at all or none? We are using different ROMs... What Quadrant do you get currently?
Cheers
Thank you for your post.
You have solved many of my questions. Also I am User of HD2 and had the same impressions, but now with Android Nand everything was great, also started to love it.
As for GTAB'll make those adjustments you suggested, some will not disable because I use Bluetooth as an example.
Any news please keep posting.
Success!
VeEuzUKY said:
The first block of disabled items (in bold) from CALENDAR to WORLD CLOCK are disabled start-ups but the apps works as usual. It just frees resources not required on boot till you actually start the application when you want.
The second block from Bluetooth Services to Voice Search are all disabled as I use none of those. Items disabled can be restarted again at any time upon activating them follwing a reboot, while items deleted (like Samsung Apps and STK) are gone forever.
Ive never flashed a ModaCo Kernel and got lots of feedback regarding probelms with 1.4OC. Do you have any issues at all or none? We are using different ROMs... What Quadrant do you get currently?
Cheers
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So far the oc is good, things load a little faster, especially nfs shift. Last run of quadrant was 2300-2400.
Ill try it again later after these optimizations and see how it goes, a member here has gotten 3000.
Having done nothing but root, my tab gets about 1000 quadrant score. I have tried setcpu using on demand and it actuall has made my tab worse. I am very hesitant to flash anything on the tab. It seems very involved and complicated. I have an HD2 as well and have been flashing since Android was on SD. That process is simple. Everything I have read about flashing things to the tab doesn't look that way. I really havent had any issues with my tab as stock other than a bit laggy at times. I would like to hear more about all of this. The oppinions I have read are either do it or don't do it. There are more problem posts after attempting to flash than there are good ones where it worked. I really could care less about a quadrant score to be honest, but I would like to have a faster smoother running tab. I really dont care about making calls on it either. Thats why I have a phone. JMO. I think part of the issue in this thread is that there are Euro and USA version which are completely different and require different roms and such.
I have been reading and lurking in the tab development thread for a while now and am not impressed with any of it yet. Maybe someone could shed some light on things and change my mind.
dubie76 said:
Having done nothing but root, my tab gets about 1000 quadrant score. I have tried setcpu using on demand and it actuall has made my tab worse. I am very hesitant to flash anything on the tab. It seems very involved and complicated. I have an HD2 as well and have been flashing since Android was on SD. That process is simple. Everything I have read about flashing things to the tab doesn't look that way. I really havent had any issues with my tab as stock other than a bit laggy at times. I would like to hear more about all of this. The oppinions I have read are either do it or don't do it. There are more problem posts after attempting to flash than there are good ones where it worked. I really could care less about a quadrant score to be honest, but I would like to have a faster smoother running tab. I really dont care about making calls on it either. Thats why I have a phone. JMO. I think part of the issue in this thread is that there are Euro and USA version which are completely different and require different roms and such.
I have been reading and lurking in the tab development thread for a while now and am not impressed with any of it yet. Maybe someone could shed some light on things and change my mind.
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flash modacos kernel and rom, convert to ext4, you'll be amazed.
to OP
In startup auditor i just checked disable all, and am not having any problems, unless you are using task manager to disable
...CALENDAR
CALENDAR STORAGE...
edit: But when i check advanced task killer, it still shows that all the disabled apps are running
dubie76 said:
Having done nothing but root, my tab gets about 1000 quadrant score. I have tried setcpu using on demand and it actuall has made my tab worse. I am very hesitant to flash anything on the tab. It seems very involved and complicated. I have an HD2 as well and have been flashing since Android was on SD. That process is simple. Everything I have read about flashing things to the tab doesn't look that way. I really havent had any issues with my tab as stock other than a bit laggy at times. I would like to hear more about all of this. The oppinions I have read are either do it or don't do it. There are more problem posts after attempting to flash than there are good ones where it worked. I really could care less about a quadrant score to be honest, but I would like to have a faster smoother running tab. I really dont care about making calls on it either. Thats why I have a phone. JMO. I think part of the issue in this thread is that there are Euro and USA version which are completely different and require different roms and such.
I have been reading and lurking in the tab development thread for a while now and am not impressed with any of it yet. Maybe someone could shed some light on things and change my mind.
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I agree. The process of flashing the Galaxy is much more dauting than anything on the HD2. I suggest you do the EXT4 file converstion. All you need is follow the step by step I wrote above. It makes a huge difference. As for everything else, I too hold off to do too much flashing. The ROM I use now is great and lighter than stock but your seems to work well so keep it. For me when a ROM is good I just use it. When I bought the HD2 I flashed it 2 times with a custom ROM till i found one that worked for me and kept it for 8 months. But backing up and restoring WinMo is much easier... on Androind its all more complicated if you dont know what you are doing. Disable some start-ups on your unit, convert the file system to EXT4 and make sure you have nothing on your home screen doing a lot of refreshing and your tab will work great
natious said:
flash modacos kernel and rom, convert to ext4, you'll be amazed.
to OP
In startup auditor i just checked disable all, and am not having any problems, unless you are using task manager to disable
...CALENDAR
CALENDAR STORAGE...
edit: But when i check advanced task killer, it still shows that all the disabled apps are running
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Is everything working 100% on that ROM? I do not want any ROMS that are having problems.
I too am not impressed with anything that us out yet...seems like any ROM process is tedious and complicated.
Glad the thread starter modified his tab to his liking, but what's the point of having it if you need to drastically change everything. I have a rooted DInc and not use any of things......didn't really see a performance gain with set CPU.
I'm going to continue waiting for something more reliable and use my tab the way it was meant to be, with all its hardware and widgets.
dubie76 said:
Having done nothing but root, my tab gets about 1000 quadrant score. I have tried setcpu using on demand and it actuall has made my tab worse. I am very hesitant to flash anything on the tab. It seems very involved and complicated. I have an HD2 as well and have been flashing since Android was on SD. That process is simple. Everything I have read about flashing things to the tab doesn't look that way. I really havent had any issues with my tab as stock other than a bit laggy at times. I would like to hear more about all of this. The oppinions I have read are either do it or don't do it. There are more problem posts after attempting to flash than there are good ones where it worked. I really could care less about a quadrant score to be honest, but I would like to have a faster smoother running tab. I really dont care about making calls on it either. Thats why I have a phone. JMO. I think part of the issue in this thread is that there are Euro and USA version which are completely different and require different roms and such.
I have been reading and lurking in the tab development thread for a while now and am not impressed with any of it yet. Maybe someone could shed some light on things and change my mind.
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dubie76 said:
Is everything working 100% on that ROM? I do not want any ROMS that are having problems.
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Sure is, I use my tab as a phone replacement so I had to have everything work, you will be waiting eons for a decent update from samsung
Sent from my Galaxy Tab of awsomeness
AlpineM3 said:
I too am not impressed with anything that us out yet...seems like any ROM process is tedious and complicated.
Glad the thread starter modified his tab to his liking, but what's the point of having it if you need to drastically change everything. I have a rooted DInc and not use any of things......didn't really see a performance gain with set CPU.
I'm going to continue waiting for something more reliable and use my tab the way it was meant to be, with all its hardware and widgets.
Sent from my ADR6300 using XDA App
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How are you not impressed if you haven't tried anything?
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Thank you for your detailed post. While I agree with you that the stock SGT rom and browser suck but where do you think the JMI, JMF, JMx ROMs coming from?
Most ROMs I've seen (except for CM) are based from some sort of Jxx
Please keep the tweak posts going. Good stuff and thanks!
natious said:
How are you not impressed if you haven't tried anything?
Sent from my Galaxy Tab of awsomeness
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Not impressed with all the problems being posted just tring to flash it, and how complex it is to do it. Guess that's what I meant. Flashing the hd2 is a very simple process. Tab is not
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My boy,
Only getting my Galaxy tomorrow but looking through threads on my favorite forum.
And guess the first one I happen into... I will follow avidly.
Hi dubie76,
Try an app called OCLF 2.0 on the Market. It is a Lag fix app for the Samsung Galaxy S which also works on the Tab.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.rc.QuickFixLagFixR2
You have to install EXT2 tools and then install one click lag fix, both are done within the app.
I had this on my Tab before flashed to a custom ROM. The tab was much faster and did not have and lag compared to stock, the Quadrant score was around 1900.
Also you can uninstall the modifications in the app and easily reverse back to stock. The only disadvantage is you will loss about 800mb of internal memory (the 2Gb space), so if you don't have much space left, you will need to uninstall some apps and reinstall them once you applied the lag fix.
P.S. thanks to OP for the SystemApp Remover & Startup Auditor suggestion.
Custom ROMs?
Hi everyone!
Consider this:
The locked GTab (in standby) on an original ROM with a connected to it BT headset wakes up after replying a call from BT and can potentially have anything pressed as being in the bag due to its size...
My point is that there is NO fix for this on XDA therefore why should I expect any significant advancements from a custom ROM if such simple things cannot be fixed on Android.
My personal view is that Android is unfortunatelly not as flexible for adjustments as WinMo (i have HD2 as well with a wonderful custom Artemis ROM).
I've tried two Roto ROMs on my GT and they havent provided any noticeable enhancements in performance to my eye (perhaps some rating went up - I dont care about tech stats). I reverted to stock ROM P1000XWJMI that works as fast for a "regular user".
I am sad to resume my experience with hacking the GT as not worth it: you get serious risk of getting the GT bricked (much more complicated than with WinMo), loose the warranty and are open for instability and sudden incompatibilities with crashes.
On the third custom ROM installation attempt I was stuck on a black screen after powering on (stuck on the bootloader!) and couldnt initiate flash for multiple times. I was shocked and very nervous. Thats when the stock ROM saved my ass and I am not willing the risk of playing around any more with non-firmware ROMs for Android GT.
Regarding the alternative screen lockers available - please do not suggest Screen Suite (the best of the worst) and things like No-Lock (to get rid of the original locker) as they all mess up once in a while (tested) with the default ROM settings and the original core locker.
PS
In my view the best thing we can and should do first of all is to COMPLAIN to SAMSUNG Tech Support and Software Developers (I did twice already).
If every one of us from theese GTab forums would do this they would definitely get faster with resolving issues.
mrbuz said:
Hi everyone!
Consider this:
The locked GTab (in standby) on an original ROM with a connected to it BT headset wakes up after replying a call from BT and can potentially have anything pressed as being in the bag due to its size...
My point is that there is NO fix for this on XDA therefore why should I expect any significant advancements from a custom ROM if such simple things cannot be fixed on Android.
My personal view is that Android is unfortunatelly not as flexible for adjustments as WinMo (i have HD2 as well with a wonderful custom Artemis ROM).
I've tried two Roto ROMs on my GT and they havent provided any noticeable enhancements in performance to my eye (perhaps some rating went up - I dont care about tech stats). I reverted to stock ROM P1000XWJMI that works as fast for a "regular user".
I am sad to resume my experience with hacking the GT as not worth it: you get serious risk of getting the GT bricked (much more complicated than with WinMo), loose the warranty and are open for instability and sudden incompatibilities with crashes.
On the third custom ROM installation attempt I was stuck on a black screen after powering on (stuck on the bootloader!) and couldnt initiate flash for multiple times. I was shocked and very nervous. Thats when the stock ROM saved my ass and I am not willing the risk of playing around any more with non-firmware ROMs for Android GT.
Regarding the alternative screen lockers available - please do not suggest Screen Suite (the best of the worst) and things like No-Lock (to get rid of the original locker) as they all mess up once in a while (tested) with the default ROM settings and the original core locker.
PS
In my view the best thing we can and should do first of all is to COMPLAIN to SAMSUNG Tech Support and Software Developers (I did twice already).
If every one of us from theese GTab forums would do this they would definitely get faster with resolving issues.
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So what if the screen goes on in your bag, unless you have a fresh finger floating around in there nothing can press any buttons on the capcitive screen, also my tab I just hit the lock button in a bt call, screen turns off phone stays on
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Im so confused. I have my tab rooted and oclf 2.0. Im scoring 2200 in quadrant and.my dolphin hd browser is SO laggy. Even with flash disabled. Any ideas?
koxville said:
Im so confused. I have my tab rooted and oclf 2.0. Im scoring 2200 in quadrant and.my dolphin hd browser is SO laggy. Even with flash disabled. Any ideas?
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because quadrant doesn't mean **** in the real world, i score 2300 but thats with the 1.4 oc.
Give miren a try, tbh its the best
Hi All,
Enjoying my MT4g on Tmobile. I am interested in rooting my phone and getting the CM7 (Gingerbread) on my phone.
Before I jump into the guides, I wanted to know that is there a way to get back to stock TMO (that came with the phone) just in case I dont like CM7.
Secondly, is everything working on CM7 builds? Are there still any parts of the OS that do not work (wifi, camera etc).
Thanks and would appreciate any guidance on the above 2 questions.
Thanks!
Step 1: Do some reading, both of the RC1 thread and the Nightlies thread, and the CM7 FAQ. There are people who are having problems, there are people for whom things are perfect, and there are people for whom things are usable.
Step 2: Be sure to use the CORRECT version of ClockworkMod Recovery. With the exception of the specially-created 3.0.0.6 version that supports both Froyo and Gingerbread filesystems, you MUST use 2.x for Froyo based ROMs, and 3.x for Gingerbread based ROMs. This includes backup/restore as well as flashing.
ravneetg said:
Hi All,
Enjoying my MT4g on Tmobile. I am interested in rooting my phone and getting the CM7 (Gingerbread) on my phone.
Before I jump into the guides, I wanted to know that is there a way to get back to stock TMO (that came with the phone) just in case I dont like CM7.
Secondly, is everything working on CM7 builds? Are there still any parts of the OS that do not work (wifi, camera etc).
Thanks and would appreciate any guidance on the above 2 questions.
Thanks!
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I would suggest watching a video tutorial a few times if you have never rooted a phone before. If you are comfortable installing an OS on a computer then you probably won't have any trouble rooting.
You can always go back to stock if you like. Make sure you follow all the steps for the root procedure. I'm pretty sure grankin posted up the unroot procedure with the root procedure. One of the steps is saving a backup of your original phone settings. Keep that in a safe place.
I'm pretty sure CM7 isn't stable yet, but most everything works for that ROM. Wifi Calling and almost everything else. As always read the updates to see what the developer has fixed (or is working on) If you don't like a ROM you can always find another. That's pretty much the beauty of the whole thing.
Hope this helps
Thanks guys. I will go ahead and refresh myself with all the guides and tutorials in here...Last time I was doing this was 5-6 years ago with the HTC MDA Win Phones
Thanks!
Seems like we're in a similar boat with root....
This site rules. I learn so much here and yet there's a ton of info so just to be clear....
I have a myTouch 4G. Is it worth rooting JUST to remove some of the stock apps (Amazon MP3, etc.)? Is there any benefit to be gained from doing that if I have no other reason that I want to root right now?
Thanks in advance.
allyn274 said:
This site rules. I learn so much here and yet there's a ton of info so just to be clear....
I have a myTouch 4G. Is it worth rooting JUST to remove some of the stock apps (Amazon MP3, etc.)? Is there any benefit to be gained from doing that if I have no other reason that I want to root right now?
Thanks in advance.
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up to you.
personally i will never use a "stock/unrooted" android.
neidlinger said:
up to you.
personally i will never use a "stock/unrooted" android.
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Okay. I understand. But I'm still pretty new at this and so far all I want to do is remove the "bloatware." Does it make a noticeable difference in the way the phone runs if I go through rooting to do that?
Thanks!
allyn274 said:
Okay. I understand. But I'm still pretty new at this and so far all I want to do is remove the "bloatware." Does it make a noticeable difference in the way the phone runs if I go through rooting to do that?
Thanks!
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Just rooting the phone will offer no performance changes. The only thing Rooting does is give you [the user] Super User access.
With that you can do massive performance upgrade with s=off. but nothing Rooting Only will do.
neidlinger said:
Just rooting the phone will offer no performance changes. The only thing Rooting does is give you [the user] Super User access.
With that you can do massive performance upgrade with s=off. but nothing Rooting Only will do.
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So are you saying there's something more than rooting that I need to do in order to have the ability to delete the preloaded programs that I don't use?
Thanks!
allyn274 said:
So are you saying there's something more than rooting that I need to do in order to have the ability to delete the preloaded programs that I don't use?
Thanks!
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I haven't rooted my MT4G yet, but I had a rooted and modded MT3G for a long time. I would read A LOT through the guides and threads involving rooting your device, because it seems like you don't know too much about it. But in short - rooting alone does nothing but give you super user access to the phone, which in non-nerd talk means you can control things about the phone that you couldn't do before rooting. If you then want to remove bloatware (as well as do anything else like flashing roms etc), it will require further steps. Again, READ READ READ (and WATCH WATCH WATCH videos).
sunsean said:
I haven't rooted my MT4G yet, but I had a rooted and modded MT3G for a long time. I would read A LOT through the guides and threads involving rooting your device, because it seems like you don't know too much about it. But in short - rooting alone does nothing but give you super user access to the phone, which in non-nerd talk means you can control things about the phone that you couldn't do before rooting. If you then want to remove bloatware (as well as do anything else like flashing roms etc), it will require further steps. Again, READ READ READ (and WATCH WATCH WATCH videos).
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I totally understand there is more required than just the rooting. And I really really appreciate your post. I guess what I'm trying to figure out is just if there is a benefit to removing bloatware? Maybe it's not really a "to root or not to root" question so much as a "will removing bloatware improve my phone at all" question? If there's a better place to ask, please point me in the right direction?
Thanks again for all the help.
There is no performance benefit to removing bloatware if the application is not used. It just consumes space on the internal SD device.
Rooting and then disabling those apps merely ensures they won't be run.
HTC Glacier CM7 #2
jggimi said:
There is no performance benefit to removing bloatware if the application is not used. It just consumes space on the internal SD device.
Rooting and then disabling those apps merely ensures they won't be run.
HTC Glacier CM7 #2
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Thank you! I really appreciate it. I think that's the answer I was looking for.
allyn274 said:
So are you saying there's something more than rooting that I need to do in order to have the ability to delete the preloaded programs that I don't use?
Thanks!
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Titanium backup is a paid app that can remove apps after root (Monopoly, Asphalt 5, etc) Most ROM's you install after root have these apps removed.
Also it's pretty nice to underclock the phone to give you some great battery life. Really nice to set a profile when the screen is off that it slows the clock speed.
I like the videos here
I don't think he uses the new gfree method of rooting though in his video...
grankin posted a video with the root procedure on his post I'd look there.
2Noob4U said:
Titanium backup is a paid app that can remove apps after root (Monopoly, Asphalt 5, etc) Most ROM's you install after root have these apps removed.
Also it's pretty nice to underclock the phone to give you some great battery life. Really nice to set a profile when the screen is off that it slows the clock speed.
I like the videos here
I don't think he uses the new gfree method of rooting though in his video...
grankin posted a video with the root procedure on his post I'd look there.
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This is extremely helpful. I have lots and lots of research and learning ahead of me, but this at least gets me in the right direction. There's a lot to sort through.
Just one thing: @2Noob4U - what is the "gfree method of rooting"? I thought you could achieve root with VISIONary?
You rock. Thanks again.
TB does not remove system applications. It "Freezes" them. This marks them disabled in the Android package manager so they cannot be executed, and wont' be seen by the launcher / app drawer.
I mentioned disabling bloatware earlier in this thread. You can use TB to "Freeze" and "Thaw", or you can use the "pm disable" or "pm enable" commands from a terminal emulator.
Disabling a system application is significantly easier than removing it. Plus, removing it may break a dependent application. Yeah, removing Monopoly and Stock won't break anything, but you may decide some tool in the app drawer is unused -- but it is actually used by another app unbeknownst to you. Disabling is safer. Removing requires mounting /system in read/write mode, which is cumbersome to do manually with a mount command, but can be done from adb or Root Explorer.
TB's Freeze/Thaw is available in its Pro version.
jggimi said:
TB does not remove system applications. It "Freezes" them. This marks them disabled in the Android package manager so they cannot be executed, and wont' be seen by the launcher / app drawer.
I mentioned disabling bloatware earlier in this thread. You can use TB to "Freeze" and "Thaw", or you can use the "pm disable" or "pm enable" commands from a terminal emulator.
Disabling a system application is significantly easier than removing it. Plus, removing it may break a dependent application. Yeah, removing Monopoly and Stock won't break anything, but you may decide some tool in the app drawer is unused -- but it is actually used by another app unbeknownst to you. Disabling is safer. Removing requires mounting /system in read/write mode, which is cumbersome to do manually with a mount command, but can be done from adb or Root Explorer.
TB's Freeze/Thaw is available in its Pro version.
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I read back through the thread and I'm not 100% sure I found the reference to bloatware, but this is incredibly helpful.
To make sure I'm understanding correctly, I could:
- Root my phone using VISIONary
- Get TB Pro
- Freeze (or Thaw to reverse) any unwanted apps
Would this improve performance/storage in any way or simply remove those unwanted apps from the drawer?
thanks again - as always.
allyn274 said:
I read back through the thread and I'm not 100% sure I found the reference to bloatware, but this is incredibly helpful.
To make sure I'm understanding correctly, I could:
- Root my phone using VISIONary
- Get TB Pro
- Freeze (or Thaw to reverse) any unwanted apps
Would this improve performance/storage in any way or simply remove those unwanted apps from the drawer?
thanks again - as always.
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Removing or disabling will offer little performance upgrade. Androids work much like a computer does. Just because the Application is setting on the phone doesn't mean that it is using any resources other than memory. The only thing you will gain by removing or disabling those application is the memory that they are using.
neidlinger said:
Removing or disabling will offer little performance upgrade. Androids work much like a computer does. Just because the Application is setting on the phone doesn't mean that it is using any resources other than memory. The only thing you will gain by removing or disabling those application is the memory that they are using.
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2 things:
1 - do I have the steps correct?
and
2 - if I gain that memory, is it usable by other apps I would install?
Thank you!
allyn274 said:
2 things:
1 - do I have the steps correct?
and
2 - if I gain that memory, is it usable by other apps I would install?
Thank you!
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1- yes
Download and install VISIONary.apk
Temp Root with VISIONary
Download Ti/Backup
Freeze or delete any unwanted application
and yes other applications will be able to use that space. IF you delete them. If you freeze the no. They are still in the memory the CPU will just not pick them up.
hi yall,
i bought the phone used, and its running 2.2.1 froyo, ever since i got the phone last night ive been here reading everything about it, since im new to android, its very confusing for me.
(1) i wasnt sure if it was rooted, but there was a superuser icon in the menu ,so i went root it again and did allow non market app from super1click. when it was doing allow non market app, the phone frozed , i had to just take off the battery for it to restart, then did the allow non market app again, it was fine the second time. after this i found that the phone is very slow for 20-30 sec when just turned on. perhaps it has nothing to do with rooting and allow non market app, the phone is just like that. anyways is this normal? would rooting 2 times make it slow after power on?
(2) im very interested in installing the MiUI or CM7 to my bravo, i have the factory usb driver installed, and the phone is rooted . what are the other steps to get it work?
i would really appreciate if you have any input,
thanks in advance.
Ok. Get you started then you will need to get what is called the LIFESAVER to me. The Stock .sbf file for just in case times. Next before anything else you need a program called RSD LITE. It's made by Motorola (correct if wrong). On your phone you'll need an app called SndInitDefy_1.4_2.apk. Put it on you mem card and install it on your phone (you did push the allow non market apps button in S1C right?). Then look around for the rom you want to use. Myself and several other people are working on a CM7 rom for the Bravo with a working STOCK camera. The easy fixes are using another 2 or 3 camera apps. After all said and done follow the instructions on sndInitDefy_1.4_2.apk or 2ndInitDefy_1.4_2.apk whatever the name is in the app drawer. After that put the rom you want on your sd card. Not in a folder or anything just the card. Reboot into 2nd recovery and wipe your data, cash and dalvik, then install the new rom. NOTE: Most issues occur because you didn't wipe. NOTE 2: You have to use the Vol. UP and DOWN on the side of the phone to select things and the power on the top to do it while in 2ndInit.
And if you would like to know I was writing this on 2 hours of sleep like 24 hours ago while drinking cold coffee and eating something I can't figure out what it is but reminds me of tacos and nachos. Back of fridge find.
Forgot about your first question, sorry, I haven't really noticed any speed changes before or after root to me. Could be another app you have that runs at boot? If you have any troubles just PM me and I'll get to ya. My major project went to the back burner for the moment. I do have an app for you if you want to try to get a little more speed out of it. Like I said just PM me.
what are the apps that increases speed? is there any way i can delete the junk apps came with the phone? there are 50 of them more than 40 is useless. lol
thanks a lot for taking your time responding my post, i do really appreciate it.
after i run launcher pro, the phone have a speed increase, faster then before. everything is normal now.
i noticed that there are a lot of versions of RST lite, i gusse i should have the latest one. right?
i kinda need the camera for school projects, plus there are still things i need to learn about so i will be doing later, i think pretty soon you guys would know how to make the stock camera work, lol
I use RSD Lite 5.0. Google it and it's easy to find. Camera issue has work around and to rid yourself of the bloatware you need to be rooted (which you are) and look on the market for an app called SuperManager. It may have alot more than what you need but it's free. When you install it open and go to it's settings and mark the box for root. Then you can use it to uninstall your bloatware. I would keep google maps and the navigation app though. I've never had a use for any of the news, weather or news & weather stuff. Just slows your phone and uses your data. If you want a true FM Radio for your phone see below. It's a little better then the AT&T Radio. DO NOT UNINSTALL ANYTHING THAT DOES NOT LOOK LIKE AN APP! You will see things that seem like doubles of stuff. FM Radio is one of these. One is AT&T's app the other is like the driver for ANY FM Radio app to work. Just let me know if you get stuck. Also here is a great overclock app. Don't go over 1 ghz for too long though. Stock is 800Mhz. It's not made by myself.
when i tried to scan the barcode and download overclock and FM files, it keeps giving me a message of
Download unsuccessful
Cannot download. The content is not supported on this phone
i downloaded the files to my computer, everytime i try to put them in the phone by usb cable it shows cant copy, i must did something wrong.
oh, BTW the supermanager is awesome
The old school ways still work for things like this. Take out your memory card and just copy files to it with a card reader. You might have filled up the card already? I can't put anything else on my wifes card but she just has a 2gig. She has alot of music and the videos are taking up alot of room. She's still stock but she does use overclock and undervolt to get a little more speed and save the battery. The QR codes I don't think they work for everyone. Search the market for an app named "Sideload Enabler for Bravo". It's free and so you can make sure you can sideload apps. Gives you the checkbox under settings too! + in my book. Can't remember if it requires root or not..... I'll post the link in a min.
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^ Sideload Enabler For Bravo
Yea! I just learned Script! (If the link works) It does!
^ SuperManager