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So I'm new into the whole smartphone business.
One thing I've noticed is that you need to get lots of apps if you want any kind of good functionality of your mobile. I mean, I can't even record sound without an app, or record a phone conversation (even tho my 8 year old flip phone that that functionality innate)
In the Apps - All, there is even a innate app called "Sound Recorder" yet you cannot use it, and you have to download an app to record sound.
Anyway, now it comes to my concern. Almost all apps require some pretty ridiculous permissions such as:
read phone status, test access to protected storage or modify or delete contents of USB storage. And I'm talking about apps such as a game let's say.
I downloaded an app that shuts off music (I like to fall asleep to music) called Music Timer. It's permission is to "dirrectly call phone numbers"! Really? make phone calls? It even has approximate location.
Is it just something I must live with, sell every and any information I put on my phone to use most of the apps out there?
I even setup a corporate email (my school). Their app requires to: erase data, set password rules, etc. Erase data? ugh.
Maybe I'm missing something, since I'm all new to this smartphone business and never dealt with it.
Messerschmitt262 said:
So I'm new into the whole smartphone business.
One thing I've noticed is that you need to get lots of apps if you want any kind of good functionality of your mobile. I mean, I can't even record sound without an app, or record a phone conversation (even tho my 8 year old flip phone that that functionality innate)
In the Apps - All, there is even a innate app called "Sound Recorder" yet you cannot use it, and you have to download an app to record sound.
Anyway, now it comes to my concern. Almost all apps require some pretty ridiculous permissions such as:
read phone status, test access to protected storage or modify or delete contents of USB storage. And I'm talking about apps such as a game let's say.
I downloaded an app that shuts off music (I like to fall asleep to music) called Music Timer. It's permission is to "dirrectly call phone numbers"! Really? make phone calls? It even has approximate location.
Is it just something I must live with, sell every and any information I put on my phone to use most of the apps out there?
I even setup a corporate email (my school). Their app requires to: erase data, set password rules, etc. Erase data? ugh.
Maybe I'm missing something, since I'm all new to this smartphone business and never dealt with it.
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1) its a nexus device so its bloat free. Not everyone wants to record things so why force it onto everyone ? If you need said function you have the choice of adding said function
2) the sound recorder apk is used when you want to record an audio to an MMS.
3) not all apps require absurd permissions though I would agree that many do go to far in asking for permissions, BUT you always have the choice of not installing them.
Though some of the app permission names are written not as clear so it appears to be overreaching. Let's take a game. It asks to modify and delete USB storage. Normal as when you save a game its needs to be able to write to the phone. The other two you mentioned on not to educated on so I won't comment on yet
4) I looked into the music timer app you mentioned and I do agree that call phone number permission should not be their but again if you don't like it don't install it and try something else
5) your school email I don't see what the deal is? Permission to delete data, what do you think happens when you delete an email? It needs permission to delete it. Password rules is their to enforce your emails/schools password rules when using exchange
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The email permissions can be due to it being a corporate mail server, so in order to prevent confidential information from being stolen, the admin can do things like remotely wipe the phone or disable the camera.
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So basically if I don't like 1 permission out of several for a specific app, then my only option is to not use the app at all and find an alternative, or if there is no alternative, live without it?
Messerschmitt262 said:
So I'm new into the whole smartphone business.
One thing I've noticed is that you need to get lots of apps if you want any kind of good functionality of your mobile. I mean, I can't even record sound without an app, or record a phone conversation (even tho my 8 year old flip phone that that functionality innate)
In the Apps - All, there is even a innate app called "Sound Recorder" yet you cannot use it, and you have to download an app to record sound.
Anyway, now it comes to my concern. Almost all apps require some pretty ridiculous permissions such as:
read phone status, test access to protected storage or modify or delete contents of USB storage. And I'm talking about apps such as a game let's say.
I downloaded an app that shuts off music (I like to fall asleep to music) called Music Timer. It's permission is to "dirrectly call phone numbers"! Really? make phone calls? It even has approximate location.
Is it just something I must live with, sell every and any information I put on my phone to use most of the apps out there?
I even setup a corporate email (my school). Their app requires to: erase data, set password rules, etc. Erase data? ugh.
Maybe I'm missing something, since I'm all new to this smartphone business and never dealt with it.
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Yeah, the permissions suck. Luckily the Android ecosystem has developed where there's enough competition that you can usually find what you want from a dev who doesn't want to hijack your phone. There are a lot of small guys out there, but they make some of the best apps. Low on permissions, holo-themed, great support. I usually find good devs on XDA with cool projects and donate as soon as I check out and like there app (GYT is the most recent example).
HOWEVER, if you are on an deodexed ROM (so, not stock), this works great: PDroid. Free, clean, doesn't crash apps (like Permissions Denied).
Hi all,
I keep getting ad notifications popping up. Sometimes they're links that take me to a web page then to the G Play store for "Candy crush saga", other times they're survey questions like "Do you want an iphone 5?". I've run a few apps that look for adware, and also long-pressed on one or two when I could, and both point me to the Network app, which looks to me like the Android-native network service (it has an icon that looks like 4 or 5 bars of increasing height, kinda like you'd see for a wifi service). Is this just something I get for buying a piece of Google hardware? Or, is there some way to stop this annoying behavior w/o having to put a whole new ROM on there?
Thanks.
I use to get these mid-video on the Funimation app — it was incredibly annoying. I finally got rid of it by rooting my devices (Nexus 7 and 4) and installing AdAway (system level adblocker) from the f-droid appstore. So, no special ROM, but rooting was needed.
tautges said:
Hi all,
I keep getting ad notifications popping up. Sometimes they're links that take me to a web page then to the G Play store for "Candy crush saga", other times they're survey questions like "Do you want an iphone 5?". I've run a few apps that look for adware, and also long-pressed on one or two when I could, and both point me to the Network app, which looks to me like the Android-native network service (it has an icon that looks like 4 or 5 bars of increasing height, kinda like you'd see for a wifi service). Is this just something I get for buying a piece of Google hardware? Or, is there some way to stop this annoying behavior w/o having to put a whole new ROM on there?
Thanks.
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You can also disable notifications from certain apps. I've never gotten ads from the native ROM, its something you installed. I believe they'd apepar to come from the Network app anyway, even if they didn't. Find out what apps you installed are ad related.
tautges said:
Hi all,
I keep getting ad notifications popping up. Sometimes they're links that take me to a web page then to the G Play store for "Candy crush saga", other times they're survey questions like "Do you want an iphone 5?". I've run a few apps that look for adware, and also long-pressed on one or two when I could, and both point me to the Network app, which looks to me like the Android-native network service (it has an icon that looks like 4 or 5 bars of increasing height, kinda like you'd see for a wifi service). Is this just something I get for buying a piece of Google hardware? Or, is there some way to stop this annoying behavior w/o having to put a whole new ROM on there?
Thanks.
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I would disable the Network app's notification permissions. If it is a system app, this really shouldn't impact its performance (unless you prize the "Open Wi-Fi networks" notification. Even then though, I'm a little concerned that you have a network app. Can you give us the full name of the app and tell us what buttons are available from App Info (e.g. Force stop, Uninstall, Uninstall updates, Disable, etc.)? I just checked through four or five of my devices, and I don't have a "Network" app on any of them (including on my Nexus 10).
I'm wondering if it's not just some incredibly shady app name.
As we all know the Google Latitude service is shutting down on 9th August 2013.
Does anyone know of a suitable replacement?
p.s I never made it to the moon :crying:
The official replacement is "Locations" in Google+. Any reason why that won't work for you?
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The official replacement is "Locations" in Google+. Any reason why that won't work for you?
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My family and friends don't use Google+, any other apps?
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My family and friends don't use Google+, any other apps?
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Come next month, they won't be using Latitude either. I don't understand why looking for another app is preferential to switching to Google+. Is it just having to add it to your account? Or is it something else?
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Come next month, they won't be using Latitude either. I don't understand why looking for another app is preferential to switching to Google+. Is it just having to add it to your account? Or is it something else?
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Google latitude ran under Google maps, so users of Google maps (virtually anyone) could follow each other. Now that latitude is being moved under Google+, only people with plus accounts will be able to use it. Since my family and friends don't use Google+, if we want to follow each other we will all have to sign up for Google+ accounts, just to use latitude. Seems like an unnecessary amount of work, for a feature that is useful during vacations and trips. Hope this explains it a bit.
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Google latitude ran under Google maps, so users of Google maps (virtually anyone) could follow each other. Now that latitude is being moved under Google+, only people with plus accounts will be able to use it. Since my family and friends don't use Google+, if we want to follow each other we will all have to sign up for Google+ accounts, just to use latitude. Seems like an unnecessary amount of work, for a feature that is useful during vacations and trips. Hope this explains it a bit.
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Google+ is a single option on a Google account. If they are using Maps with Latitude, the already have a Google account. IIRC adding Plus to an existing Google account is a single mouseclick.
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Google+ is a single option on a Google account. If they are using Maps with Latitude, the already have a Google account. IIRC adding Plus to an existing Google account is a single mouseclick.
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Google+ is a social media service, like facebook, that is altogether separate. Larry Page is obsessed with having everyone sign up for Google+ because most people are surfing the web via their mobile phones and Facebook is dominating the mobile ad space. My friends and family are not likely to migrate from Facebook to Google+, so I need an alternative to Latitude.
If you'd like further clarity, feel free to PM me, rather than us having a long personal conversation on a forum about Latitude alternatives.
You don't have to use it, you just need to opt in to use the location services. I don't see what the big deal is but to each their own.
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You don't have to use it, you just need to opt in to use the location services. I don't see what the big deal is but to each their own.
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You will have to open the Google+ app to follow your friends and family. It has been physically removed from the updated Maps app.
The problem is that you don't even HAVE to have a Google + "account" just because you have a Google account. I can go into my Google account right now and delete my Google + profile. So that's not even true. To have to opt into and then use the Google + app is a pretty lame alternative. ALSO, the Google + Locations really sucks right now. My boyfriend and I are in each other's circles, have shared our locations with each other, and turned on background location reporting, but he does not show up as a person who I can see his location. He showed up for 1 hour when we first set it up, but he's since disappeared, even though I've been right next to him and seen his settings on his phone as we tried to troubleshoot. It needs some serious work before it's ready to replace Latitude.
I've been trying to use Glympse for those times when I need to let someone know where I am, and for them to track me. The only down side is you can only let people see your location for up to 4 hours at a time. When you've got an active Glympse running, your GPS is in constant use too, so it will drain your battery faster than Latitude did. You can opt to turn your GPS off and just let Glympse use WiFi or cell networks to locate you, but it won't be as accurate.
Other than that, all the other alternatives are also closer to social networking or checkin apps that also happen to share your location. I just want something simple, LIKE LATITUDE.
Oh. I guess the alternative is Latitude. I don't understand why they killed it off. I hope maybe Backitude will pull a Feedly and create something neat out of this.
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For me, three things:
1. No option to navigate to a person on the map
2. No "last update" time stamp means sometimes the locations are 5 minutes old. Sometimes an hour.
3. No accuracy bubble
It's basically useless as a way to figure out where people are at any given time. Extremely annoying to have that go away. Hopefully there will be a replacement that shows up that doesn't drain the battery. Something that automatically responds to a ping for a check-in rather than polling for locations every X minutes would be great.
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For me, three things:
1. No option to navigate to a person on the map
2. No "last update" time stamp means sometimes the locations are 5 minutes old. Sometimes an hour.
3. No accuracy bubble
It's basically useless as a way to figure out where people are at any given time. Extremely annoying to have that go away. Hopefully there will be a replacement that shows up that doesn't drain the battery. Something that automatically responds to a ping for a check-in rather than polling for locations every X minutes would be great.
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Hi, these are some valid concerns. I am not a big fan of the location tracking features so were unaware of these. Hopefully, as Google continues to unify its social services we will eventually see more granular features resurface. I miss the offline ability in the new maps more than anything else at the moment. Hangouts not showing online status is annoying as well. Its important to leave Google feedback through official channels when valued existing features go AWOL. It has always been Android's nature to throw out something half-baked, and improve (or kill ) it over time based on user feedback.
As for battery... Google announced a number of new API's that would be rolling out this year. Some of which are specifically designed to reign in apps that poll/push data. I remember location services being a big part of that.I'm willing to bet this will get better over time.
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Hi, these are some valid concerns. I am not a big fan of the location tracking features so were unaware of these. Hopefully, as Google continues to unify its social services we will eventually see more granular features resurface. I miss the offline ability in the new maps more than anything else at the moment. Hangouts not showing online status is annoying as well. Its important to leave Google feedback through official channels when valued existing features go AWOL. It has always been Android's nature to throw out something half-baked, and improve (or kill ) it over time based on user feedback.
As for battery... Google announced a number of new API's that would be rolling out this year. Some of which are specifically designed to reign in apps that poll/push data. I remember location services being a big part of that.I'm willing to bet this will get better over time.
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I've already complained to google, but I'm not real hopeful there. If Latitude wasn't being used heavily, it didn't make sense to leave it in Maps cluttering up the interface. I don't blame them.
For me, literally the only thing I want to use this for is making it easier to coordinate with my wife, or friends/family when we're on road trips. I suspect thats how most people were using it. It's great to be able to see that she's left her office or is at our kids' daycare or is 10 minutes away from a restaurant without calling her a dozen times a day. Losing the 'last update' stamp ruins that use case. Really not sure how they envision people using the G+ locations feature.
Apple's Find My Friends was great when my wife and I were on iOS. It behaved almost exactly right, only ever reporting your location when someone on your whitelist opened up their FMF app. There was no real power drain associated with it. All the apps in the Play store that fill this niche seem to report locations on their own, which is dumb *and* a redundant power drain given that Google location services is already grabbing that location.
Oh well.
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Apple's Find My Friends was great when my wife and I were on iOS. It behaved almost exactly right, only ever reporting your location when someone on your whitelist opened up their FMF app. There was no real power drain associated with it. All the apps in the Play store that fill this niche seem to report locations on their own, which is dumb *and* a redundant power drain given that Google location services is already grabbing that location.
Oh well.
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Apple does it right in not allowing apps to just go out and post/get whatever they want, whenever they want it. The app has to register for the info, and the system coalesces these requests for when the corresponding hardware is connected. Google is well on their way to implementing this same behavior.
Having much of this stuff better unified is a good thing IMHO, and I understand the thinking that things related to friends and family should be found in + and not maps. And based on what I saw at I/O, this will get better.
From what I've heard, the previously mentioned Glympse is a pretty decent replacement depending on what features you need. It's more aimed towards temporary location sharing between people during car trips, theme park visits, going out for lunch, etc. There's no option to leave it permanently on, though, and it doesn't appear to use intermittent polling.
Now that Latitude is dead, who knows if it will introduce this functionality to get new users?
I'm hoping that there is a location history feature in the new Google+ locations as I use this a lot, but I would love to eventually reach the moon - and maybe beyond!
It's an opening for another Feedly to come in and increase their market share. Someone like echoecho or swarmly could tweak their application to provide the same functionality, while furthering their own growth, a percentage of those new users would start using their services as result.
If I knew enough about Android development I’d quickly drop an app that pulled the Google+ location information and dumped it into maps provided by the Google Maps API with the options for satellite imagery and streetview. I'm really surprised that Google didn't merge the existing functionality into Google+, it must be available as they'll only be leveraging Google Maps anyway, certainly in regards the above.
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I'm hoping that there is a location history feature in the new Google+ locations as I use this a lot, but I would love to eventually reach the moon - and maybe beyond!
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Location history will remain:
If you use Location Reporting and have Location History enabled, your location data will continue to be recorded to your Location History. You can view and manage Location History data on the Location History dashboard.
Note: We’re no longer supporting Google Maps for Mobile 6.14.4 and below for Location History or Location Reporting settings.
google is forcing us to use their G+, first was gtalk converted to hangouts, now latitude
i have yet to find a map of people in G+ on the PC, i can only see people on the phone
now they have a universal "location tracking" setting in android, the new maps v7 is garbage, hopefully someone is able to mod the old maps apk to push and pull data from their new location service, reformat it and keep latitude working in the old maps
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Other than that, all the other alternatives are also closer to social networking or checkin apps that also happen to share your location. I just want something simple, LIKE LATITUDE.
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Hi laur3n.newm4n, I'm currently building location sharing app for many of the same reasons you mentioned. We're still in private alpha but if after you checkout the features and it's sound like we're solving your problem you can signup for the beta
Hope it will help: yougy.co
I know most of the things to improve battery but I want to know if anyone knows of other ways to improve battery. I have a s7 edge now on G935U. I know rooting can improve battery life but I can't find a root method for my phone on 6.0.1 and I don't want to risk bricking it unless I know for sure it would work.
What I do to Improve battery
Disabled auto sync
Disabled auto update
Disabled all bloatware with package disabler
AOD is off
Never keep WiFi on during sleep
I know about black screen or dark themes
Adjusting brightness
Turning off location
Turning off Bluetooth
Turning off WiFi
But really what else can I really do? I feel like my battery life on my s7 edge sucks. Any help?
I always logout of facebook, no matter what phone I have, seems to help keep that battery muncher of an app under control. Auto display brightness, pocket detection and dark themes. I get about 22 hours out of my phone on a charge with medium use. 3 to 4 hours screen on.
I always use AoD, have never noticed much of a difference in battery with or without it.
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Download Package Disabler Pro from the play store.
Use it to disable any system apps you don't use. Focus on the ones that are in "pink text" Also Don't ever use any Facebook apps. (Facebook, FB messenger, FB Page Manager, FB contacts etc) I delete the data from all of them force stop them and disable them first thing. They do a ton of shady stuff in the background that eats your battery and disguises itself as "Android System" on your battery usage page.
I wish Samsung would stop including them in the Firmware all together. If you have to use Facebook just go to the website usering the Samsung browser app with Crystal ad blocking on and block the cookies. Facebook is a shady company even just going to the website from your phone can drastically impact its performance from all of the trackers they install on your device. IMO the entire Facebook app suite should be flagged as spyware by Google.
Next look for AT&T software. There is a tone of it. You can just search for att in the search bar and it will pull it all up. AT&T like to gather a TON of your information and usage stats in the background as well. This too is disguised as "Android System" battery drain even though it is not. Any apps branded AT&T that you don't use get rid of them.
Also in the case of this device, there is No REAL root process. There is an ENG BOOT root, but its super buggy and generally terrible for battery life.
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Download Package Disabler Pro from the play store.
Use it to disable any system apps you don't use. Focus on the ones that are in "pink text" Also Don't ever use any Facebook apps. (Facebook, FB messenger, FB Page Manager, FB contacts etc) I delete the data from all of them force stop them and disable them first thing. They do a ton of shady stuff in the background that eats your battery and disguises itself as "Android System" on your battery usage page.
I wish Samsung would stop including them in the Firmware all together. If you have to use Facebook just go to the website usering the Samsung browser app with Crystal ad blocking on and block the cookies. Facebook is a shady company even just going to the website from your phone can drastically impact its performance from all of the trackers they install on your device. IMO the entire Facebook app suite should be flagged as spyware by Google.
Next look for AT&T software. There is a tone of it. You can just search for att in the search bar and it will pull it all up. AT&T like to gather a TON of your information and usage stats in the background as well. This too is disguised as "Android System" battery drain even though it is not. Any apps branded AT&T that you don't use get rid of them.
Also in the case of this device, there is No REAL root process. There is an ENG BOOT root, but its super buggy and generally terrible for battery life.
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I just unlocked my phone no more att. Unless there I still other stuff? Any other suggestions?
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I just unlocked my phone no more att. Unless there I still other stuff? Any other suggestions?
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FACEBOOK All Facebook apps (FB Pages, FB Messenger, FB app, FB System setting, etc.)
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FACEBOOK All Facebook apps (FB Pages, FB Messenger, FB app, FB System setting, etc.)
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How can use messenger on the Internet without downloading the app?
Good battery life or? How can I check my SOT?
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How can use messenger on the Internet without downloading the app?
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Use an Android browser that allows you to "request the desktop page" and you can get to FB Messages w/o the app.
I prefer Firefox with suitable blocker plugins installed, optionally in Private mode.
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How can use messenger on the Internet without downloading the app?
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Use the chrome app and "request desktop site" from settings.
Anyone know why my stand by time is taking 20%?
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Use an Android browser that allows you to "request the desktop page" and you can get to FB Messages w/o the app.
I prefer Firefox with suitable blocker plugins installed, optionally in Private mode.
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Swipe Pro for Facebook found in Google Play Store is another good alternative to using FB apps
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My biggest tip for improving battery life is staying off of large Wifi networks (i.e. school, airports, work) . The constant LAN wakeups will kill your battery.
-Turn off location when not in use (I use tasker to auto turn on/off locstion when bluetooth connects/disconnects in my car)
- i disabled carrierIQ using System Tuner, which seems to have helped (requires root). The EZ Package Disabler Rootless method did not disable carrierIQ for me.
Disabling "bloat" apps didnt really help much with battery life IMHO
I get about 4.5-6hrs SOT. The eng_boot root method is really not as bad as everyone says it is after you apply all the fixes that are floating around. (V15 fix zip, L speed, govtuner)
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Anyone know why my stand by time is taking 20%?
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Poor cell reception or there is an app constantly pinging your location.
If you have Facebook installed and allow it Location access that could be it.
Also sometimes Google Play services gets hung up for the same reason. A reboot will fix the Google issue.
Lastly it could be at&t. If they are working on towers near you it can cause this drain, or if you have not disabled the AT&T apps that track your phone.
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Poor cell reception or there is an app constantly pinging your location.
If you have Facebook installed and allow it Location access that could be it.
Also sometimes Google Play services gets hung up for the same reason. A reboot will fix the Google issue.
Lastly it could be at&t. If they are working on towers near you it can cause this drain, or if you have not disabled the AT&T apps that track your phone.
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I deleted Facebook and pretty sure turned off location on everything. I unlocked my phone so I don't att apps. I get 2 or 3 bars now I unlocked my phone so it's not terrible
FWIW, you can use the Edge "My Places" panel to automatically manage wifi on/off based upon geolocation or bluetooth, and some other ways. I use it to automatically force wifi off whenever in my car (because of bluetooth connect) or at work (via gofence, no wifi available), and that helps. It's also standard on the GS7edge.
The battery life has very little to do with Facebook or Messenger if you have the settings for the apps tweaked to not notify on every little thing. Also, you can limit background data inherently in Android, thus using less power to get real-time updates from either app. You can limit Messenger's notifications, including eliminating chat heads, etc. If Facebook were solely responsible for poor battery life on this device, it'd be the same on very device. That just isn't the case. It definitely is a resource hog as-is, but not if you contain it.
That said, I'm a big advocate for limiting background data for any social networking apps: FB, Snapchat, etc. I would rather have to open an app to see what I've missed than have dozens of notifications throughout my day. I save real-time updates for things like email, Amazon, and the like. You can also set wifi settings to not be so aggressive (I believe mentioned earlier in the thread). Beyond that....root the device and set up custom power settings and profiles for CPU, etc. Your performance will potentially suffer for it, and the eng kernel has the worst battery life of any I've ever used, but there are ways to fine tune it that you simply can't achieve without root.
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The battery life has very little to do with Facebook or Messenger if you have the settings for the apps tweaked to not notify on every little thing. Also, you can limit background data inherently in Android, thus using less power to get real-time updates from either app. You can limit Messenger's notifications, including eliminating chat heads, etc. If Facebook were solely responsible for poor battery life on this device, it'd be the same on very device. That just isn't the case. It definitely is a resource hog as-is, but not if you contain it.
That said, I'm a big advocate for limiting background data for any social networking apps: FB, Snapchat, etc. I would rather have to open an app to see what I've missed than have dozens of notifications throughout my day. I save real-time updates for things like email, Amazon, and the like. You can also set wifi settings to not be so aggressive (I believe mentioned earlier in the thread). Beyond that....root the device and set up custom power settings and profiles for CPU, etc. Your performance will potentially suffer for it, and the eng kernel has the worst battery life of any I've ever used, but there are ways to fine tune it that you simply can't achieve without root.
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Have you actually done any research into what the Facebook app does? It's a system app, doing the thing you mention above without root will not effect its ability to use your data and drain your battery. It's not about the core features of the app its about all the spying it does. FB Messenger keeps a log of every messenger you send whether or not it's sent through the APP or not.
Facebook installs trackers on your phone that read your credit card and banking apps data to track purchases. It also pings your location to know where you shop and what you eat. Then feeds you ads related to it and tells the companies you bought something because you saw the ad. All of that data is bundled up and sent out to be resold to any company that wants it.
Any phone iPhone or Android that comes with the Facebook apps pre installed on it the apps are the main culprit of battery drain and random data usage. There is even a lawsuit filed in California against Facebook saying it is illegally using both data and power and disguising it as normal system usage so end users don't know that it is their apps to blame.
If you know anyone who works in advertising at a fortune 500 company that has bought ads for Facebook they will tell you the same. And if you do any real research into Facebook apps programing you will see it is true. Their are MANY people who have tore apart the apks to find exactly what I am talking about and shared it all over the Internet. Facebook spends millions with PR companies to keep it quiet, because the only way for them to monetize their app is to offer highly targeted ads and purchase tracking.
As for rooting the S7E its garbage, not what I consider REAL root and a waste of time. Also it kills the performance of the device.
Particularly this app.
Trust me if you like your battery life and/or your privacy disabling Facebook is the most important thing to do to any device you get.
ShrekOpher said:
Have you actually done any research into what the Facebook app does? It's a system app, doing the thing you mention above without root will not effect its ability to use your data and drain your battery. It's not about the core features of the app its about all the spying it does. FB Messenger keeps a log of every messenger you send whether or not it's sent through the APP or not.
Facebook installs trackers on your phone that read your credit card and banking apps data to track purchases. It also pings your location to know where you shop and what you eat. Then feeds you ads related to it and tells the companies you bought something because you saw the ad. All of that data is bundled up and sent out to be resold to any company that wants it.
Any phone iPhone or Android that comes with the Facebook apps pre installed on it the apps are the main culprit of battery drain and random data usage. There is even a lawsuit filed in California against Facebook saying it is illegally using both data and power and disguising it as normal system usage so end users don't know that it is their apps to blame.
If you know anyone who works in advertising at a fortune 500 company that has bought ads for Facebook they will tell you the same. And if you do any real research into Facebook apps programing you will see it is true. Their are MANY people who have tore apart the apks to find exactly what I am talking about and shared it all over the Internet. Facebook spends millions with PR companies to keep it quiet, because the only way for them to monetize their app is to offer highly targeted ads and purchase tracking.
As for rooting the S7E its garbage, not what I consider REAL root and a waste of time. Also it kills the performance of the device.
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Facebook is not a system app when it's obtained through the Play Store. Here's a screen shot illustrating that; I have a backup of the system app, but it is not currently installed. I've installed from the Play Store, and it is not installed as a system app. Permissions are in my full control, and even if I weren't rooted, I could disable the default Facebook app and install anew from the Play Store.
You made quite a few claims with zero citations, criticizing me for not knowing the depth of the Facebook advertising conspiracy. Facebook is pretty transparent about what it does with your data and who it is allowed to share that with. It's all accessible for the curious minds of conspiracy theorists. All of which derails the topic of this thread, which is battery life.
Clearly, you don't use Facebook in the form of an app, and I do. That said, I can attest to having considerably better battery life when I tweak the permissions, data consumption allowance, and notification settings.
Let's keep this thread on topic
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Facebook is not a system app when it's obtained through the Play Store.
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On some GS7E variants it comes as a pre-installed system app (AT&T for example) and you can't undo that w/o root.
I uninstalled package disabler pro and battery life got better, and system ui is much faster, am also using adguard, it uses a lot of battery but also prevents all those ads to use battery as well.
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I uninstalled all that because my phones battery was dying over night
Howdy!
3 part question:
1) I am on rooted OOS9.0.17 + Omega kernel + xXxNoLimits and use App Ops to put my apps on a leash( those dirty buggers! ), and a VPN. I have location services turned off, sandboxed facebook and fb messenger, use Privacy Browser or Tor, and use App Ops to turn off location for the ton of apps that use it but do not ask for permission. Do I still need to use a gps/location spoofer for all the system level stuff that I won't/don't mess with? It seems some stuff still knows where I am. It seems that, in spite of all I have done, a few apps still know where I really am.
2) what app have you personally had success with? I have searched the sight and didn't seem to find "that" one app everyone uses and loves.
3) What is the impact on battery life? I had to made some adjustments with my VPN after the last update to either Eddie or OpenVPN as my battery started tanking again. Still not totally happy on that front.
Thank you in advance!