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I am extremely excited for friday to come around so I can get the EVO, that being said I have been on here alot today, and have watched alot of youtube videos.
But all of the people on here complaining about the $10 extra charge being a "deal breaker for them" is hands down the most stupid thing I have ever heard.
People the $10 extra charge is for 4G/Unlimited 3G.
This phone is like the iPhone and allows you to use ALOT of data. I don't understand how people see a phone with a 4.3 inch screen, 1ghz processor, 4G, and a list of other features and will willingly pay $200 for it, but then $10 extra month is unquestionable.
Look at what you are getting from Sprint. Sprint is IMO the best company, their prices are dirt cheap, and they truly give you everything you want.
Look at the pricing for the EVO
EVO
$79.99 per month
You get
unlimited mobile to mobile
unlimited texting
unlimited data
free calls after 7 P.M.
free turn by turn navigation from sprint
450 minutes
For $79.99
Now
the iPhone on AT&T is still $10 more expensive every month, and now Verizon and AT&T are making people get a data plan on certain phones that are not considered "smart phones"
I have a problem with paying an extra $10 per month. I already pay them $160 per month (about) for my family "unlimited" plan. 4G isn't even in my state! I planned on buying the phone out of contract... they are not subsidizing my phone in any way.
You can say "well you should be thankful it's not xxxx amount because that's what yyyyyy carrier charges you". Yeah well I'm not with yyyyyy carrier I'm with Sprint. If Sprint is going to nickel and dime me up to yyyyy's price I'll just switch because it pisses me off (been with sprint about 9 years).
If I keep my Touch Pro 2 I don't have to pay this surcharge.... if I buy this new phone that they want people to buy it will cost me an extra $120 per year for the same service i'm already getting. Most I've burned through is about 10 GB's per month under my current "unlimited" plan and never been charged extra.
Make sense to you? Not to me.
$10 more for AT&T??
Way more...
- First off, the iPhone 3GS is $299 with 2 year contract (you CANNOT get upgrade pricing after 12 months like we do on Sprint.)
- Secondly, when comparing nearly identical offerings on Sprint vs AT&T, I just got $185/mo, NOT including taxes.
That's more than double. Just select iPhone and basically all the highest options (other than highest voice,) and that's what you already get on Sprint.
tadda said:
If Sprint is going to nickel and dime me up to yyyyy's price I'll just switch because it pisses me off (been with sprint about 9 years).
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buh-bye. Good luck paying $180 on any other carrier, for what we get for $80.
I did not say one word about either the Iphone or AT&T.
My point is this.... I can keep my current phone (hd 2 nice but I'm sick of winmo) and not pay the $10/month surcharge. So when I buy a new phone out of contract I am paying Sprint an extra 120/year FOR NOTHING. THEY ARE DOING NOTHING MORE FOR ME NEXT MONTH THEN THEY ARE DOING FOR ME TODAY YET I AM PAYING THEM MORE.
Don't get me wrong... phone is awesome and I want it, but this 10/month thing pisses me off. It's the principal of it not the amount.
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$10 more for AT&T??
Way more...
- First off, the iPhone 3GS is $299 with 2 year contract (you CANNOT get upgrade pricing after 12 months like we do on Sprint.)
- Secondly, when comparing nearly identical offerings on Sprint vs AT&T, I just got $185/mo, NOT including taxes.
That's more than double. Just select iPhone and basically all the highest options (other than highest voice,) and that's what you already get on Sprint.
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nah its not double more
you can't be biased when you compare is.
The 3GS 16gb model is $199, the Evo only comes with 8gb
450 minutes are $39.99
Unlimited texting is $20.00
Data is $30
that is a total of $90, what other charges were you adding on lol, I see your point tho sprint is cheaper
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I have a problem with paying an extra $10 per month. I already pay them $160 per month (about) for my family "unlimited" plan. 4G isn't even in my state! I planned on buying the phone out of contract... they are not subsidizing my phone in any way.
You can say "well you should be thankful it's not xxxx amount because that's what yyyyyy carrier charges you". Yeah well I'm not with yyyyyy carrier I'm with Sprint. If Sprint is going to nickel and dime me up to yyyyy's price I'll just switch because it pisses me off (been with sprint about 9 years).
If I keep my Touch Pro 2 I don't have to pay this surcharge.... if I buy this new phone that they want people to buy it will cost me an extra $120 per year for the same service i'm already getting. Most I've burned through is about 10 GB's per month under my current "unlimited" plan and never been charged extra.
Make sense to you? Not to me.
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Thats the problem right here...
And you and many others don't see it.
You are wrong!!
List me all of the features you have on your plan, (how many lines, what phones, and what plans you have)
And I guarentee it will be cheaper on Sprint. Than on AT&T and verizon or tmobile.
You will consider leaving sprint after 9 years and paying an ETF, but actually figuring out the costs and features you get on sprint v. the other carriers is unquestionable, correct?
Please list your features, untill you do that and show everyone how the other carriers are cheaper, you don't have a fair point.
mjz147 said:
nah its not double more
you can't be biased when you compare is.
The 3GS 16gb model is $199, the Evo only comes with 8gb
450 minutes are $39.99
Unlimited texting is $20.00
Data is $30
that is a total of $90, what other charges were you adding on lol, I see your point tho sprint is cheaper
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The only way to compare is to have unlimited ANY MOBILE calling... AT&T doesn't have this option, so you'd have to put on unlimited calling.
You also need to add corporate messaging/etc, because Sprint has all that included. Yes, not everyone needs that, but for those who do, it adds up.
Also, you must add unlimited route navigation.
I think you get the idea. It's hard to do a pure apples-to-apples comparison, but even when you get close, it's drastically more expensive on AT&T.
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The only way to compare is to have unlimited ANY MOBILE calling... AT&T doesn't have this option, so you'd have to put on unlimited calling.
You also need to add corporate messaging/etc, because Sprint has all that included. Yes, not everyone needs that, but for those who do, it adds up.
Also, you must add unlimited route navigation.
I think you get the idea. It's hard to do a pure apples-to-apples comparison, but even when you get close, it's drastically more expensive on AT&T.
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Ya, i didn't put that in ur right tho about those other charges, good call
$10 a month. Putting that into perspective, that's one time out in a Thai restaurant. IMHO I can live without thai food for a day and just put those $10 toward Evo which I will use EVERY DAY of the month... can't complain here
Geez... again I don't think you see my point. Let me try to rephrase a little bit.
If this $10 surcharge was across every single data-plan regardless of phone I would not be complaining, I would take my lumps and deal with it.
This $10 is for owners of the HTC Evo 4g only. That is my problem.
Example:
So if you lived in my area where there's no 4g, and had an EVO 4g your bill would be $10 more than mine with a Touch Pro 2 even though we're both on the same Simply Everything Plan using the same EVDO/3g network. (pretend I only have one line)
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Geez... again I don't think you see my point. Let me try to rephrase a little bit.
If this $10 surcharge was across every single data-plan regardless of phone I would not be complaining, I would take my lumps and deal with it.
This $10 is for owners of the HTC Evo 4g only. That is my problem.
Example:
So if you lived in my area where there's no 4g, and had an EVO 4g your bill would be $10 more than mine with a Touch Pro 2 even though we're both on the same Simply Everything Plan using the same EVDO/3g network. (pretend I only have one line)
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Simple answer: Think of it as an "EVO 4G" fee.
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Simple answer: Think of it as an "EVO 4G" fee.
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I guess if that's the way you wanna see it that's the way you will see it. Unfortuantely I don't see it that way. Again... if it was across the board for everyone on the simply everything plan I wouldn't even be posting right now.
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I guess if that's the way you wanna see it that's the way you will see it. Unfortuantely I don't see it that way. Again... if it was across the board for everyone on the simply everything plan I wouldn't even be posting right now.
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http://finance.yahoo.com/news/ATampT-caps-phone-data-usage-apf-499602515.html?x=0&.v=7
Again, not happy about the +$10, but it's hella better than that...
It all boils down to you're gonna pay for it because....you WILL pay for it. Sprint knows it's still a better deal. Is it fair? Maybe not -- but you're still buying the phone...
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I guess if that's the way you wanna see it that's the way you will see it. Unfortuantely I don't see it that way. Again... if it was across the board for everyone on the simply everything plan I wouldn't even be posting right now.
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You can choose to whine about it, but I doubt very much you will pass on the EVO 4G because of $10.
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I have a problem with paying an extra $10 per month. I already pay them $160 per month (about) for my family "unlimited" plan. 4G isn't even in my state! I planned on buying the phone out of contract... they are not subsidizing my phone in any way.
You can say "well you should be thankful it's not xxxx amount because that's what yyyyyy carrier charges you". Yeah well I'm not with yyyyyy carrier I'm with Sprint. If Sprint is going to nickel and dime me up to yyyyy's price I'll just switch because it pisses me off (been with sprint about 9 years).
If I keep my Touch Pro 2 I don't have to pay this surcharge.... if I buy this new phone that they want people to buy it will cost me an extra $120 per year for the same service i'm already getting. Most I've burned through is about 10 GB's per month under my current "unlimited" plan and never been charged extra.
Make sense to you? Not to me.
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Hey Tadda why don't you go to your facebook page and cry. Don't buy the F****N phone and stay the **LL off this board.
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the 10$ extra isnt for 4G..
Sprint looks at it like this, You just bought a bad ass phone, and your gonna wanna see what it can do. so your gonna start using WAY MORE DATA now.. 10$ for unlimited data.. or 30 from AT&T .. your choice..
And if you wanna see the price difference go to att.com and look at the prices. Stop arguing like a bunch of girls.
Are we still on this $10.00 a month?
Let's see AT&T so far has removed for new users the unlimited plan. Charges $15 for 200MB or $25 for 2GB. It's like they are pushing for people to find their local Starbucks to do their surfing.
$69.99 - Unlimited everything mobile to mobile + 450 mins anywhere. No roaming.
$10.00 for 4G phone which in return gives 5GB(cap) that has not been really enforced when you go over a few GB's or 4GB Unlimited. Can't have a WiMax Hotspot and CAP the speeds.
Free Telenav Sprint NAV turn by turn usually a $10.00 a month feature on AT&T.
So for $79.99 you get all of that and then some.
AT&T for the most part charges:
$69.99 unlimited talk
$20.00 unlimited text
$30.00 Unlimited capped data at 5GB not $25.00 for 2GB
$10.00 for TeleNav
So for $129.99 a month you get AT&T.
If you want to get apples to apples then we can go to the Simply Everything plan which is $99.99 and it gives you unlimited everything + $10.00 4G and you have $109.00 with Unlimited Calls to Mobile and Landlines.
With Verizon you have:
$69.99 unlimited talk
$20.00 unlimited text
$29.99 unlimited data - not to include enterprise data such as blackberry
$44.99 unlimited Enterprise Data
As you can see the Sprint has no caps on data like the other two. So how can one really complain about the pricing. It's a BIG difference and to have all these people and mags complain about $10.00 is a JOKE!
I hope to be happy with my Sprint Service. I don't like change often but I am willing to make the leap.
What your not considering is what if you DON'T NEED unlimited voice minutes? It's great that Sprint is cheaper when comparing unlimited plans, but I for one, only use 200-400 mins a month total between 2 lines. So a 550 family plan with AT&T is just fine, I don't need unlimited with Sprint or even the 1500 minutes there giving us with the Evo's. I would rather pay Sprint less, since I will be using less. But they force you into a Everything plan for smartphones.
All carriers have their ups and downs.
AT&T has the fastest 3g network, but poor coverage/prices
Verizon has the largest 3g network, but poor prices
Tmobile has...umm..good prices
Sprint has good network, good prices, poor phone choices.
With Sprints Evo tax, we save ~10.00 dollars a month switching from AT&T with our current 2 x 3gs's. That is not a lot of money to save, especially since AT&T's data speeds are about twice as fast as Sprints in this area. So the Evo tax is a big deal. We have a pre-order in, I am extremely excited, we will test them out, and if we both like them, we will switch. But if they disappoint like the Pre's did, then they go back and we will keep our iphones.
Now if Sprint didn't charge the Evo tax, we would save 30.00 a month. With that kind of savings, we could accept a few snags here and there and would for sure dump AT&T.
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the 10$ extra isnt for 4G..
Sprint looks at it like this, You just bought a bad ass phone, and your gonna wanna see what it can do. so your gonna start using WAY MORE DATA now.. 10$ for unlimited data.. or 30 from AT&T .. your choice..
And if you wanna see the price difference go to att.com and look at the prices. Stop arguing like a bunch of girls.
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I think that's Sprint's point too.... This phone WILL use more data
i currently have a rooted G1 on Tmoible USA and my bill is $70 a month.. i was thinking of switching to verizon and getting a droid incredible, but can't find anything on the monthly costs.. i know i will need a data plan, but how much are we talkin' about here? i hardly ever call people, so i just need unlimited texting and a data plan.. anyone know how much this would cost a month??
thanks
http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/splash/plansingleline.jsp
btw, i think they rooted the Incredible.
http://androidcommunity.com/verizon...-instructions-will-be-released-soon-20100531/.
Mardenator said:
btw, i think they rooted the Incredible.
http://androidcommunity.com/verizon...-instructions-will-be-released-soon-20100531/.
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I believe that is the now infamous false Memorial Day "Prank", thanks though .
the cheapest u can get with verizon, is 39.99 for single line 450 minutes, and 29.99 monthly data. thats $70 + assorted taxes and whatnot, runs about 75 a month.
also, no its not rooted yet.
Since you are on t-mobile. Why don't you checkout the Nexus One?
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the cheapest u can get with verizon, is 39.99 for single line 450 minutes, and 29.99 monthly data. thats $70 + assorted taxes and whatnot, runs about 75 a month.
also, no its not rooted yet.
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this only includes about 200 text msgs... so add another 15 bucks for atleast 1500... it was about 95 a month for my omnia which is the same plan as I would use for the incredible... if you have a friend or relative that just wants a basic phone do the family plan... 2 phones for 70 bucks with unlimited text.. add data for you for 30... 100 bucks for 2 phones... I have a plan with my mom and we both save...
I'm the primary account holder not her... I'm 29 but why waste money when you know you can save it...
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this only includes about 200 text msgs... so add another 15 bucks for atleast 1500... it was about 95 a month for my omnia which is the same plan as I would use for the incredible... if you have a friend or relative that just wants a basic phone do the family plan... 2 phones for 70 bucks with unlimited text.. add data for you for 30... 100 bucks for 2 phones... I have a plan with my mom and we both save...
I'm the primary account holder not her... I'm 29 but why waste money when you know you can save it...
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that includes no text messages. why text when u can google voice.
Its going to be around 95 dollers a month for the 400 minute plan + unlimited data and unlimited text both.. I also used to have TMobile and a rooted G1 and i paid 75 a month after tax for that thing but i had callertunes and all that extra crap thrown in as well
I also dropped Tmobile and went to verizon for many reasons 1 being they have the incredible which i got like 3 days after it came out and 2 the service in my area is bulletproof with verizon and tmobile sucks
Also i work at bestbuy so i get 25% off my cellphone plan so im actually paying less per month then i did when i had tmobile as a regular customer
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Since you are on t-mobile. Why don't you checkout the Nexus One?
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I agree, the Nexus One has the same specs (except camera I think) so it's fairly equal to the Incredible. It'll probably save you some time and hassle with switching carriers. I would only make the switch if your 3G coverage is terrible. Nothing wrong with the Incredible though I've got one and love it!
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I agree, the Nexus One has the same specs (except camera I think) so it's fairly equal to the Incredible. It'll probably save you some time and hassle with switching carriers. I would only make the switch if your 3G coverage is terrible. Nothing wrong with the Incredible though I've got one and love it!
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i haz no money lolz
DeeBG said:
I believe that is the now infamous false Memorial Day "Prank", thanks though .
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update: they actually rooted it this time. it's not a prank
http://www.droiddog.com/android-blog/2010/06/how-to-root-your-incredible/
I see what they are going for here. They are trying to bill this as a super premium device. Their flyer "not all galaxy s phones are alike" tries to put this phone in a different league than the captivate and vibrant and thus should cost more.
I think this is a mistake. This is $50 more than the equiv iphone 4 and with the captivate selling for $50 I don't see this selling well.
If they wanted to knock it out of the park they should have kept it at 199 and that would have enticed people to get more for their money with sprint....better phone, same price; cheaper plan, more service/value. This phone will not get the adoption of the EVO and thus will not get the development. Bummer if you ask me because I think the phone looks great. Too bad the marketing people missed the mark.
I'm not surprised...for 3 reasons....
1) Sprint ALWAYS charged 50$ more for keyboard phones over none keyboard ones...
2) The retail price of all Galaxy S phones is 500$...EVO is 450$...
3) The Galaxy S hardware wise is better then both the iphone 4 and the EVO by a long shot...
It is only 50$...back in the day we paid 350$ for our TP2s and no one complained >.>
It is only 50$...back in the day we paid 350$ for our TP2s and no one complained >.>
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back in the day it was a different economy and different competition. for me they dropped the ball so much that i'm now looking at t-mo.
I agree that sprint definitely dropped the ball with this pricing. People will see $200 phones and will see no reason to pay $250 when the only glaring difference is a keyboard. But we all know sprint never gets it right, they chose the best of the Galaxy S line and then over price it. lol. But i understand why they priced it at that point and i for one have no problem paying for quality.
paying a one time extra $50.00 does not bother me the slightest, i mean come on, im saving lots of money from switching from at&t to sprint as is, extra $50 once isnt gonna hurt me.
I was fully expecting this phone to be 500 bucks. Us being phone geeks we know that the hardward in it is superior to the evo, but the average consumer is only going to look at the larger screen of the evo and think that is the better phone and think its a no brainer to get it since its also 50 bucks cheaper. I was planning on getting this phone off contract for 500 bucks so i am not suprised in the least. I just hope it lives up to everything i'm expecting. But coming from that POS Hero almost ANYTHING is going to be a step up
I agree sprint pricing is pretty foolish for a company desperate for new subs.
I paid $529 for my nexus, $250 for the epic is nothing.
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It's $50. If you're that concerned over $50 perhaps you should not be spending hundreds on a cell phone to begin with?
Who cares if it doesn't generate maximum market penetration or whatever, you're not a chairman at Sprint's HQ or anything, heh. Don't worry about it. I know I'm not.
Give me the damn phone
$50 compare to the $240 in premium data charges accompanying
it is a drop in the bucket.
Sometime you guys kill me. You find any little thing to complain about. $50. Really? $50??? So is $50 going to really change your life? The epic has more features than the other Samsung S phone so why do you feel you wouldn't have to pay more? If you can't afford $50 extra for this phone then "kick rocks" and go get another cheaper phone. I was just hoping it would be around $300. I have had pocket PC phones from HTC(8125, tilt, fuze, TP2...) for the last 6yrs and they were always $500+ and they are no match for this phone. It's the price you pay for new tech. So, I will get my EPIC and you can save your $50, get another phone, and the we can see who is happier in 2 month.
Just my $.02
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$50 compare to the $240 in premium data charges accompanying
it is a drop in the bucket.
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Just to note, that's $240 over two years. Sure, you're signed to the contract for that long, but whatever. As many have done, I'm going to compare it to other plans on the market for what I have
My Sprint Plan:
450 minutes (unlimited nights/weekends) + Unlimited texting/pictures messaging + Unlimited data + Any mobile, any time included + 4G "Premium" data plan + insurance = $75 a month after fees and discounts (which, if you don't have a discount... what is wrong with you? One of the discounts on my line is because I bank with a credit union)
AT&T:
450 minutes + 5000 Night/weekend minutes (really?) + unlimited data + unlimited texting/picture messaging + Early nights and weekends (Standard on Sprint) + AT&T Navigator (Standard on Sprint with a data plan) + insurance= $95 a month... I'm not going to include any discounts (which, again, I'm sure you can get) because I didn't include a couple standard Sprint services that AT&T charges for.
Verizon:
450 minutes (unlimited night/weekend) + unlimited text + unlimited data + insurance = $97 (doesn't offer a lot of standard Sprint options, no discounts applied again)
T-Mobile:
500 minutes (unlimited night/weekend) + unlimited text + unlimited data + insurance = $85 (no discounts, again... no Sprint standards)
Keep in mind none of these offered free wifi hotspot capabilities and none had anything comparable to any mobile any time (T-mobile has "MyFaves" I guess...)
I am a huge fan of Sprint, but it's really the bill. $50 extra for this phone and $10 a month for "Premium" data doesn't bother me even a little. Plus, I bet if you give it a minute, you'll find it on Amazon for $100 cheaper.
50 bucks man, big deal LOL. what is that like a night of drinking?
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50 bucks man, big deal LOL. what is that like a night of drinking?
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Only 1.5 hours of work for me, but I guess if you didn't go to school and only work at del taco its a lot of money lol
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$50 more than the EVO, over the life of the contract, is only $2 more per month. Not a big deal.
People on every forum are going crazy over this pricing. I agree if you can afford $200 then $250 isn't a stretch. If you can't scrape an extra $50 then maybe you should rethink buying an expensive smart phone period.
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$50 more than the EVO, over the life of the contract, is only $2 more per month. Not a big deal.
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This kind of thinking drives me insane. Why don't they charge $299 then? It's only $1 more a week for two years, compared to the EVO!
Consumers are like fruit trees. Some need a shaking for their money to fall off the tree. Some, you have to actually climb the tree to take their money. But the big bonus are the ones that leave their wallet hanging low so no shaking or climbing is necessary.
A lot of you guys seem to willingly fit the last description
Another good metaphor is when you compare consumers to high-school girls...
Either buy the phone or don't. But don't act like your being victimized just because the phone exceeds your personal and arbitrarily-derived spending limit for a smart phone.
My issue with the price is they already plan to get an extra $10 a month for the 4g that I don't intend to use and now another $50 on top of that, I'd guess I'm not alone in this situation. This makes the total cost to switch from my TP2 close to $500 which is making me rethink this phone. I really wanted a nice dev phone but at this price I might as well buy a nexus or something else off contract, or just wait another couple months for the next phone on Sprint which hopefully won't be 4g.
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My issue with the price is they already plan to get an extra $10 a month for the 4g that I don't intend to use and now another $50 on top of that, I'd guess I'm not alone in this situation. This makes the total cost to switch from my TP2 close to $500 which is making me rethink this phone. I really wanted a nice dev phone but at this price I might as well buy a nexus or something else off contract, or just wait another couple months for the next phone on Sprint which hopefully won't be 4g.
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Well if you decide to sell your TP2 it will help recoupe some of the cost.
I was just checking up on Engadget and saw this article. Hope this was the small push you needed to get a G2
The cheapest before was $50 with contract but now it's Free!
http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/18/t-mobile-g2-now-free-on-contract-android-buyers-have-never-had/
Doesnt apply if you have a no contract plan (The extra line that is)
I had been using a myTouch Slide that was given to me way back in April...so my G1 contract obviously ran out a few months ago. The second I saw this promotion, I jumped on it. Couldn't be more stoked.
Just ordered one of these so expect me to start patrolling these forums in the next few day.( I'm not a noob though)
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Orite said:
I was just checking up on Engadget and saw this article. Hope this was the small push you needed to get a G2
The cheapest before was $50 with contract but now it's Free!
http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/18/t-mobile-g2-now-free-on-contract-android-buyers-have-never-had/
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Please be aware that getting yourself into a contract causes you to end up with a service plan far in excess of your actual use, and NO OPTION TO CHANGE IT FOR THE DURATION. The result of this is that you end up spending THOUSANDS extra over the term of the contract than you would by just paying up full price for the phone in the beginning.
DON'T BE STUPID!!!! CONTRACTS ARE THE RAPE AND TORTURE OF PUPPIES!
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dhkr123 said:
Please be aware that getting yourself into a contract causes you to end up with a service plan far in excess of your actual use, and NO OPTION TO CHANGE IT FOR THE DURATION. The result of this is that you end up spending THOUSANDS extra over the term of the contract than you would by just paying up full price for the phone in the beginning.
DON'T BE STUPID!!!! CONTRACTS ARE THE RAPE AND TORTURE OF PUPPIES!
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How is it spending "thousands" more, if you already have a plan with the $20 preferred android plan for your existing phone?
If you change nothing on your plan when you take the free upgrade, in essence, the phone *IS* free, you just agree to keep service for 24 months, and if you hate the phone and or said service after 30 days, CANCEL, pay the $250 ETF and sell the phone and recoup your losses. I don't see how "Thousands" of extra dollars come into effect here when most people already have a plan they like with the $20 preferred data plan. I know my grandfathered plan with all the free features is much cheaper than ANYTHING a EM+ can EVER offer me.
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How is it spending "thousands" more, if you already have a plan with the $20 preferred android plan for your existing phone?
If you change nothing on your plan when you take the free upgrade, in essence, the phone *IS* free, you just agree to keep service for 24 months, and if you hate the phone and or said service after 30 days, CANCEL, pay the $250 ETF and sell the phone and recoup your losses. I don't see how "Thousands" of extra dollars come into effect here when most people already have a plan they like with the $20 preferred data plan. I know my grandfathered plan with all the free features is much cheaper than ANYTHING a EM+ can EVER offer me.
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Because next week, the price will drop.
I bought the phone less then a month a go is there a way for them to give me 200??
While I got u guys here....question?
Does wifi calling count towards your minutes? Couldn't get a clear answer from a Rep.
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Because next week, the price will drop.
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So the price will drop to where they say they will PAY you sign a 2 year extension?
I don't see how you can get better than FREE. So once again, where do the "thousands" come in to effect with them giving you the g2 for FREE with this deal.
david279 said:
While I got u guys here....question?
Does wifi calling count towards your minutes? Couldn't get a clear answer from a Rep.
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Yes, wifi eats out of your bucket unless you have the free grandfathered [email protected] UMA plan on your line, then all wifi calls are free. If you have a EM/EM+ plan you can't get that feature added. Old plans still have a 50/50 shot of having a loyalty rep add the SOC.
Ok. Rep didn't know what she was talking about.
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Woot recently switched from the nexus s back to g2 and I love it. Saved me $50! Now I save another $150? Man this is awesome! Time to spend the savings on accessories ie dock and larger batt.
Jumped on this when I got to work this morning. Upgrade was 50 bucks, but comes with 50 dollar mail in rebate. Signed new 2 year, but didn't change my plan from my original G1 plan + some discounts I have had.
I've been running Gingerbread on my HD2 but this free G2 has me interested. I've been lurking on the G2 forums trying to figure out the current state of G2 developement. Still not decided if I want to pull the trigger or not. I really love the form factor of my HD2.
just bit the bullet and got one. have a n1 with a g1 plan for a year now and didnt have to change my plan but i did anyway casue i want the 4G's. only a extra $5/mo for it. yes, extra 2 years but they are cheaper then the rest of the carriers, and i dont want to pay $500 for a phone again (got my n1 off cl for that price w/xtra battery). rather buy a HD projector. coming from legacy myfav5 300 anytime minute plan with android data/messaging unlimited plan to the Unlimited 4G for $20/mo and 1500 anytime and unlimited text for $60/mo. and no extra premium data charges. go magenta!
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just bit the bullet and got one. have a n1 with a g1 plan for a year now and didnt have to change my plan but i did anyway casue i want the 4G's. only a extra $5/mo for it. yes, extra 2 years but they are cheaper then the rest of the carriers, and i dont want to pay $500 for a phone again (got my n1 off cl for that price w/xtra battery). rather buy a HD projector. coming from legacy myfav5 300 anytime minute plan with android data/messaging unlimited plan to the Unlimited 4G for $20/mo and 1500 anytime and unlimited text for $60/mo. and no extra premium data charges. go magenta!
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Um, you know that the G1 plan included HSPA+ and you are paying $5 extra for nothing, right?
Just to let yall know, if you are renewing your 2 year contract then you still have to pay $50 up front, you get back the $50 with a $50 mail in rebate which in time, makes it free. Oh and this offer is on the web only, not in stores.
I was going to get my G2 this weekend at the store because Friday is my payday but the offer ends on the 20th so I think I'll bite the bullet and order it tonight online and hope to receive it by Friday.
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Just to let yall know, if you are renewing your 2 year contract then you still have to pay $50 up front, you get back the $50 with a $50 mail in rebate which in time, makes it free. Oh and this offer is on the web only, not in stores.
I was going to get my G2 this weekend at the store because Friday is my payday but the offer ends on the 20th so I think I'll bite the bullet and order it tonight online and hope to receive it by Friday.
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My ETA when i ordered and got my confirmation email with standard ups shipping was Friday, but when i checked on the site later in the day it was pushed to the 25th, i guess they're selling a bunch, eh?
Went in to a T-Mobile store yesterday to see if they had any S3's, and while looking at the display model, it said it was $279, or $229 if on the value plan. What is the value plan, and whats different between it and the standard family plan? Also, you MUST take the 5GB data plan? They had 2 employees working and about 5 people in line, so after ab out 10 minutes I left, questions unanswered.
The price is to make up the fact that you could save more with them. A value plan is when you start out a contract with a phone that you either have or bought full price. At the end, you end up saving even more than classic. You could find better deals at Wally world or Costco and they won't even make you upgrade your plan
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So if Im walking in as a new customer, I would have to pay the $279?
I just signed up for T-mobile this week coming from sprint. Got the S3 with the value plan. I paid about $270 in the store and walked out with the phone. With the value plan, you end up paying FULL price for the phone but they basically give it to you on credit and interest free. They add an extra 20 a month to your bill for 22 months, however you can pay off the phone early. Once the phone is paid off, I am looking at about 83 bucks a month with insurance for Unlimited with 5GB data with hotspot.
All of the numbers I just gave your are ballpark (except for the extra 20) becasue I don't remember the exact numbers.
In the long run, your monthly bill will be cheaper. The classic play with 5gb is about 94 bucks a month before taxes and fees.
At least this is how I understand things. If I am wrong, someone else please chime in.
I hope this helps a bit.
To add to durhamite's response, the extra $20 is per phone on the Value plan. This is easier to explain with examples. I'll assume two lines on an unlimited voice/text/2GB high-speed data plan.
Classic price for phones: $279 (after MIR)*2=$558
Classic MRC = $139.98
Value price for phones: $229*2= $458
Monthly EIP payments (for 20 months): $20*2=40
Value MRC: $99.98
I left out activation fees and any other fees that would be the same, regardless of plan. To summarize, with the Value plan, you pay $200 less today ($100 would come back via MIR if you chose Classic), the same amount for the next 20 months, and $40 less for the last four months of your contract. Keep in mind that both plans have an ETF and if you cancel a Value plan early, the remaining balance on the phones is due immediately.
The other advantage is that with the Value plan, you wouldn't have to have the data plan on your phones. However, I'm unsure if that is from the beginning, or only after you have finished your EIP installments.
So basically on the Value Plan, TMO is giving you an interest free (0% APR) loan on your phone (EIP payments = $20 x 20 months). Assuming that your credit is good enough to qualify for this plan.
I've ran the numbers between Classic vs Value plans. Value is always cheaper, you'll save between $100-$200, after 24 months contract, depending on which plans you choose.
Should of went to Walmart, only 198 for the phone.
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cashyftw said:
Should of went to Walmart, only 198 for the phone.
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While it's true that you're saving upfront cost of the phone $198 vs $229 from Walmart vs TMOBile, once you add up all the 24 months contract the Value plan is still cheaper. AFAIK, you can only get Value Plan from Retail TMO stores.
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I just signed up for T-mobile this week coming from sprint. Got the S3 with the value plan. I paid about $270 in the store and walked out with the phone. With the value plan, you end up paying FULL price for the phone but they basically give it to you on credit and interest free. They add an extra 20 a month to your bill for 22 months, however you can pay off the phone early. Once the phone is paid off, I am looking at about 83 bucks a month with insurance for Unlimited with 5GB data with hotspot.
All of the numbers I just gave your are ballpark (except for the extra 20) becasue I don't remember the exact numbers.
In the long run, your monthly bill will be cheaper. The classic play with 5gb is about 94 bucks a month before taxes and fees.
At least this is how I understand things. If I am wrong, someone else please chime in.
I hope this helps a bit.
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WELCOME TO TMO BRO! Ive been with them for a decade, and in that time Ive also had second lines with Sprint, and verizon. Tmo is AMAZING!! They will take good care uf you whenever theres a problem, they have gone SOOO far above and beyond anything any other carrier will do for me.
Also, make sure you bookmark tmonews.com, , its ran by blogger David Beren and its a branch of phonedog. Youll find all the latest leaks of phones, and sales. If you watch the sales, you can call and make changes to your plan that cxan really save you big money and lock you into great prices and features. Sorry, Im a huge TMO Fan, and Im always trying to bring ppl over, lol. Theres a guy at my local Tmo store who tells me I make him About $500 a year in commisions, just telling ppl about the service and handing them his card, lmao. But in return he called me the day before launch and had a GS3 tucked off to the side to sell me a day early!
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WELCOME TO TMO BRO! Ive been with them for a decade, and in that time Ive also had second lines with Sprint, and verizon. Tmo is AMAZING!! They will take good care uf you whenever theres a problem, they have gone SOOO far above and beyond anything any other carrier will do for me.
Also, make sure you bookmark tmonews.com, , its ran by blogger David Beren and its a branch of phonedog. Youll find all the latest leaks of phones, and sales. If you watch the sales, you can call and make changes to your plan that cxan really save you big money and lock you into great prices and features. Sorry, Im a huge TMO Fan, and Im always trying to bring ppl over, lol. Theres a guy at my local Tmo store who tells me I make him About $500 a year, just telling ppl about the service and handing them his card, lmao.
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This must be a joke. Their CS is terrible now. They have no interest in getting me a phone and keeping my business. Tell them you're cancelling and they don't care!
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While it's true that you're saving upfront cost of the phone $198 vs $229 from Walmart vs TMOBile, once you add up all the 24 months contract the Value plan is still cheaper. AFAIK, you can only get Value Plan from Retail TMO stores.
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wrong you can get the value plan w/ the s3 at costco for 390 without monthly installments. now that is a deal.
My plan:
unlimited minutes for two lines: 69.99
unlimited text for all lines: 9.99
two additional lines: 4.99 x 2 = 9.98
two lines w/ 200mb data: 4.99 x2 = 9.98
Total bill: 99.94$ - 15% employee discount = 84.95$ monthly pre taxes for four lines.
This same plan on classic would run you.... 99.99 for unlimited talk/text plus 19.99 for two add a line plus 40$ (minimum) for required data. After the discount it would be 137$ monthly.
This itself is a 52$ savings per month over 2 years. Which is 1248$ total in savings.
Provided you have to buy your phones separately it is still a good deal. My family all has smart phones of our individual choice, some that are not available on T-mobile.
I'm thinking about going to Tmobile also as sprint still doesnt have LTE. So if I get the value plan of $64.99 (500talk+text+5gb data) then I can go to costco and get the s3 for $350 correct?
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I'm thinking about going to Tmobile also as sprint still doesnt have LTE. So if I get the value plan of $64.99 (500talk+text+5gb data) then I can go to costco and get the s3 for $350 correct?
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390* but this is only an in store promotion so IDK if you can get in on the deal depending on where your at.
Also 5gb data is kind of a waste, I would sign up for the 2gb data unlimited for 10$ and edit the apn to keep getting unlimited data without throttling. But that's just me....
Good luck
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390* but this is only an in store promotion so IDK if you can get in on the deal depending on where your at.
Also 5gb data is kind of a waste, I would sign up for the 2gb data unlimited for 10$ and edit the apn to keep getting unlimited data without throttling. But that's just me....
Good luck
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Does it work really?
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Great, now my head hurts!
TMobile executive meeting; "How can we make cell phones as confusing as buying a car?" Just think, leasing a phone is just around the corner.
tspx23 said:
390* but this is only an in store promotion so IDK if you can get in on the deal depending on where your at.
Also 5gb data is kind of a waste, I would sign up for the 2gb data unlimited for 10$ and edit the apn to keep getting unlimited data without throttling. But that's just me....
Good luck
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Didn't know you can do that. Sometimes I use my phone to tether my tablet when my home internet is down and have used 6gb. That's why I figure I'd sign up for the 5 gb plan.
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gedster314 said:
Great, now my head hurts!
TMobile executive meeting; "How can we make cell phones as confusing as buying a car?" Just think, leasing a phone is just around the corner.
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I'm pretty sure they will specially with the phones coming out now days and as fast as they come out
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Just as a note for those thinking about it... if you live in the area east of dallas, tx, tmobile service is the worst out of the four carriers. Bar none. Sprint beats them, Verizon and AT&T beat them without any effort at all.
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Just as a note for those thinking about it... if you live in the area east of dallas, tx, tmobile service is the worst out of the four carriers. Bar none. Sprint beats them, Verizon and AT&T beat them without any effort at all.
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Cool info man, I definitely like sprint services since they have free roaming and good coverage but my area on 3G completely sucks, but when I go on road trips I'm pretty sure I'll find some bad spots for tmobile as well
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tony yayo said:
This must be a joke. Their CS is terrible now. They have no interest in getting me a phone and keeping my business. Tell them you're cancelling and they don't care!
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Not a joke at all bud, if your making threats like "I'm leaving" when you call in, that may be the reason why? I've been a small business owner, and if someone has an issue, being polite could take them a long way with me. Not to say you haven't been, but I know a lot of ppl expect to just get what they want out of a business by yelling, especially when it's an over the phone situation, and not in person.
Tmo has done things that have just blown me away to keep my services. I'm positive that not everyone has had all great experiences with them, but honestly, in 10yrs they've always gone out of their way for me, while other carriers have barely ever ever been personable!