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My impressions of the Mytouch slide.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ebac42NXMmM

Awesome video, I am thinking of getting this phone. I have a Nokia N900 and a G1 at the moment, I may add this to the collection.

When coming from the g1 you won't regret it. I didn't and I'm not looking back.
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slide on AT&T?

Here is my issue. I'm stuck on AT&T. I am contemplating buying the slide, rooting it and using it on AT&T (in b4: at&t sucks), and well... I am just stuck between getting the touch pro 2 and the 3g slide. I am a long time user of HTC (kaiser, wizard), and I love the way the phones run, but they just don't seem to get any faster. And android is more conducive to getting good apps. WinMo just doesn't have the development like android does. So my issue is.. Is the slide worth getting? I have also heard that the slide won't run on AT&T's 3G network... Any hotfixes for that? That's kind of an important issue I suppose.. Anyways, any slide users from AT&T have any feedback / anyone compared the touchpro 2 to the slide? I've been scouring google looking for comparisons but nothing insightful has come up. Thank you.

alphamancer said:
Here is my issue. I'm stuck on AT&T. I am contemplating buying the slide, rooting it and using it on AT&T (in b4: at&t sucks), and well... I am just stuck between getting the touch pro 2 and the 3g slide. I am a long time user of HTC (kaiser, wizard), and I love the way the phones run, but they just don't seem to get any faster. And android is more conducive to getting good apps. WinMo just doesn't have the development like android does. So my issue is.. Is the slide worth getting? I have also heard that the slide won't run on AT&T's 3G network... Any hotfixes for that? That's kind of an important issue I suppose.. Anyways, any slide users from AT&T have any feedback / anyone compared the touchpro 2 to the slide? I've been scouring google looking for comparisons but nothing insightful has come up. Thank you.
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Can't help you on comparing phones, but the slide will not do 3G on AT&T's network. The radio operates at different frequencies for 3G than what AT&T uses, there is nothing you can do to make it work.

Android phones on at&t
Why don't you just go with the aria.my wife has the mt3g slide and I have the aria. Theres not much of a difference between the two except size and a keyboard. The aria is a beast. Don't let the size fool ya.also they have the new samsung galaxy and I think a dell streak that's supposed to be pretty good too.
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beazie0885 said:
Why don't you just go with the aria.my wife has the mt3g slide and I have the aria. Theres not much of a difference between the two except size and a keyboard. The aria is a beast. Don't let the size fool ya.also they have the new samsung galaxy and I think a dell streak that's supposed to be pretty good too.
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I had the aria, and it's not condusive to texting. I went and sold it for $350 on ebay and was going to buy the slide until I realized it doesn't support AT&T's 3g network.

alphamancer said:
I had the aria, and it's not condusive to texting. I went and sold it for $350 on ebay and was going to buy the slide until I realized it doesn't support AT&T's 3g network.
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Look into the Galaxy. I had the joy of playing around with one, and am seriously debating on if I want to sell my Slide and grab one. Wonderful hardware, amazing battery life for the hardware in it, and I have never seen a display that made things look so nice.
My only gripe is the lack of a physical keyboard, but Swype does a damn fine job of handling most of my texting needs, only hassle is dealing with terminal and typing in commands.

Yea, did you try swype? It makes typing a breeze on the smaller screen. But by all means go check your att store for the galaxy or the dell streak. They are very high end devices. But also no keyboard
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Ok here's the low down u rlly can't compare winmo to android but in most ocassions android if u new mess around with it. Ok so tp2 is resistive screen big no no unless u a stylus freek imo get the mytouch slide 2g ain't so bad but use wifi when downloading apps it helps. Battery life varys on the mts from ok to amazing. And plus alota apps lol hope this hlps . Oh the tp2 has an awsome keyboard I used to have one
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Mytouch 4g or G2?

I am trying to get peoples opinions about on which phone I should get... I have a Samsung Vibrant and I hate the phone... I have narrowed down to the two options, 1) Mytouch 4G or 2) G2. I don't know which one i should get or if any of those two are for me at all. If everyone could give me their opinions that would be awesome!

Slide out keyboard over front facing camera anyday... g2

Its personal preference. Both have advantages over the other. The MyTouch4G has a front facing camera, 256MB more ram and is slimmer. The G2 has a full physical keyboard, more solid design, better dev support.

the mytouch series is a joke. they're for people who dont really know what android is and its capabilities.
g2. any day.
or if its your cup of tea, wait for the nexus s.

Nexus S. Buying a mt4g is a joke right now.
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I would take the mytouch 4g over the nexus s. It has more features and the hardware is better. It may not be as pretty as the nexus s but it's not ugly.
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nivlac978 said:
I would take the mytouch 4g over the nexus s. It has more features and the hardware is better. It may not be as pretty as the nexus s but it's not ugly.
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Well when I think about it:
4G MicroSD 720P Recording LED Notification
Nexus S No No No No
MyTouch Yes Yes Yes Yes
Sooo its kind of tough to recommend the Nexus S over the MyTouch

Vandam500 said:
Well when I think about it:
4G MicroSD 720P Recording LED Notification
Nexus S No No No No
MyTouch Yes Yes Yes Yes
Sooo its kind of tough to recommend the Nexus S over the MyTouch
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Its true.
But it wasnt long ago the ORIGINAL MyTouch got a Froyo update.
So you already know how TMO will be treating updates for the MyTouch 4G.
Its very possible you wont get Gingerbread till after Honeycomb is released.
You have to decide what you want in a phone.
I just moved from the Nexus One to the G2 this weekend to give it a try.
The G2 is faster but I may jump back to the N1 so I can have Gingerbread.
I like the faster updates personally.
I wont get a Nexus S for a few months after they are released.
I'll wait till they start showing up on Craigslist for $200 less than the
price of a new one.

Vandam500 said:
Well when I think about it:
4G MicroSD 720P Recording LED Notification
Nexus S No No No No
MyTouch Yes Yes Yes Yes
Sooo its kind of tough to recommend the Nexus S over the MyTouch
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Except T-Mo 4G is not 4G... its just HSPA+, but the Nexus S doesnt even have HSPA+.
The G2 has the same connection speed as the MT4G, and is just as powerful, if not more so especially with the crazy overclocks it can pull.

bradleymor said:
Except T-Mo 4G is not 4G... its just HSPA+, but the Nexus S doesnt even have HSPA+.
The G2 has the same connection speed as the MT4G, and is just as powerful, if not more so especially with the crazy overclocks it can pull.
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Well it may not be real "4G" but I get 4G like speeds

going_home said:
Its true.
But it wasnt long ago the ORIGINAL MyTouch got a Froyo update.
So you already know how TMO will be treating updates for the MyTouch 4G.
Its very possible you wont get Gingerbread till after Honeycomb is released.
You have to decide what you want in a phone.
I just moved from the Nexus One to the G2 this weekend to give it a try.
The G2 is faster but I may jump back to the N1 so I can have Gingerbread.
I like the faster updates personally.
I wont get a Nexus S for a few months after they are released.
I'll wait till they start showing up on Craigslist for $200 less than the
price of a new one.
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Remember the G2 has full support from the ROM makers. It will get Gingerbread pretty soon via XDA. I say matter of weeks, maybe days after the Gingerbread source has been released

bradleymor said:
Except T-Mo 4G is not 4G... its just HSPA+, but the Nexus S doesnt even have HSPA+.
The G2 has the same connection speed as the MT4G, and is just as powerful, if not more so especially with the crazy overclocks it can pull.
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Yeah so sick of this argument. NOBODY has real "technical" 4G. But its faster than 3G, so that makes it 4G. Its a new generation of data speeds, get over the semantics. I do agree that its lame to exclude some of the things excluded on the Nexus S, including 4G.
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G2 if you type a lot and want almost stock Froyo
Mytouch4G if you want a front facing camera and don't mind TMobile's HTC sense
But then again this is XDA, you can root and get whatever lovely ROM a developer has cooked up on your phone. So it just comes down to hardware if you want to root it.

sinistersai4d4d said:
Yeah so sick of this argument. NOBODY has real "technical" 4G. But its faster than 3G, so that makes it 4G. Its a new generation of data speeds, get over the semantics.
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Not to mention at current speeds (whatever you want to call them) it's very easy to eat through your entire monthly bandwidth cap in an afternoon. Given this, wtf is the point of more speed? I'd take a higher cap over more speed any day of the week at this point.

sinistersai4d4d said:
Yeah so sick of this argument. NOBODY has real "technical" 4G. But its faster than 3G, so that makes it 4G.
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EDGE is faster than GPRS (2G), so did that make it 3G ? HSDPA is faster than 3G, so should we call that 4G ?
HSPA+ isn't "4G", so I don't think it's helpful to label it as such. Bad T-Mobile !

I got the G2 and my wife picked the white MyTouch 4G. Personally, I think the G2 is better (obviously). It has a hardware keyboard, better dev support, stock Android (with a *really* easy HTC Sense port, since the Desire Z is the same hardware).
Preferences aside, the MyTouch line is really.....plasticky. When I use her phone, the plastic squeaks like crazy - that annoys me like no other, especially on such a 'high-end' phone.

steviewevie said:
EDGE is faster than GPRS (2G), so did that make it 3G ? HSDPA is faster than 3G, so should we call that 4G ?
HSPA+ isn't "4G", so I don't think it's helpful to label it as such. Bad T-Mobile !
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Thank you. Peoples need to understand this. 4G by ITU-R standards is only available through networks with IMT-Advanced, and trust me....NO network has that capabilities yet......
With that aside,I'd go with the G2!! More industrial feel, not plasticky like samsung and mytouch 4g. Even the nexus S won't feel as good as the G2, even with the better hardware.
I wish Google would have stayed with HTC for the second Nexus.

keyboard or NO keyboard, that is the question..

I went with the Desire Z for a few reasons:
Great Developer Support
GREAT Build Quality - I HATE phones that are made of any plastic/cheap material
QWERTY Keyboard - I send upwards of 100 Messages a day between SMS and Email
New Generation Processor - The 800mhz was a disappointment to me when I read the specs, but after reading of its over-clocking capabilities and having run mine at 1.4ghz for the past few weeks, this is a huge advantage of the G2/Desire Z.

Best qwerty android phone?

I just lost my galaxy s and since im planning to get a qwerty phone that runs on android. Is desire z a good choice? Im avoiding touch screen phones since I type faster with qwerty keypads.
thanks
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things of this matter really is a personal taste. I started my first qwerty phone with a sidekick 2 and than a lx and than a G1 to a G2 all the keyboards i had to get use to and i enjoyed all of them. Even though the G2 has a really nice sturdy qewrty keyboard you should just go to the store if you can and hold it and see if you like it. and i also never used touch screen keyboards but i gotta say giving swype a chance i love it. Its almost as fast as the qewrty if not faster when i get use to it.

Yea the g2 is an awesome choice. Probably one of the best keyboards if not the best in the world right now. Its on par with the touchpro2 keyboard, which if you don't know is considered to be one of the best of all time.
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The general consensus is that the DREAM had a better keyboard than the VISION, but in terms of *current* android phones, VISION is definitely TOP. If you want a high powered android phone with great flexibility and a keyboard, you really have no choice... its VISION or nothing.

Thanks for the replies guys. Dont think Vision is available here in the Philippines, have to check.
Is the hinge issue really a problem with the Desire Z? Keep on seeing peeps talking about it.
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kuplet said:
Thanks for the replies guys. Dont think Vision is available here in the Philippines, have to check.
Is the hinge issue really a problem with the Desire Z? Keep on seeing peeps talking about it.
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It's available in the Philippines. I just bought mine two weeks ago from my supplier for 27k. The hinge is not a problem. People are just way too fussy.
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kuplet said:
Thanks for the replies guys. Dont think Vision is available here in the Philippines, have to check.
Is the hinge issue really a problem with the Desire Z? Keep on seeing peeps talking about it.
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The keyboard and hinge actually sold me on this phone. The Z hinge is better than a slider in that it actually stays closed unless you want it to open. My Motorola Droid has a very tight slider but still has a tendency to slide open a few millimeters when I grip it and then snag on my pocket.

Yeah, I am also looking for a slide-out qwerty-keyboard phone, but it has to be one that is better than G2 and mytouch 3g slide...
any suggestions?

The current best qwerty android phone right now is the Desire Z. Unless you have Sprint, then it would probably be a tossup between the epic 4g and the Evo Shift 4G (different pros and cons).

The only irritation I have is the four-row keyboard... I'd have gone with 'world class' if it had a full five-row instead of mashing all the extra characters down onto the keyboard along with the numbers; frustrating not to have a hard key for any of the following, when SSH'ing into a machine to remote admin:
<>|^[]{}
Especially so with the fairly useless TMo quick-keys on the G2 (why not just map menu+ to apps you use a lot?), and the much-HATED, entirely bloody brainless www./.com button where the tab key should be.

those keys, with proper apps, can be remapped. and if you're looking for a 5 row keyboard, you're pretty much SOL since I can't even think off the top of my head of any android phone that features that kind of keyboard.
I maintain my stance in this though: If you want a hardware keyboard, the Desire Z is your best bet. I don't know of any other keyboard that is equal in hardware and software.

I wish the G2 had kept the G1's keyboard. I loved that keyboard more than any other I've ever used.
So it goes.
The G2's CDMA cousin, the HTC Merge, hasn't been officially released stateside, but I think it looks quite nice keyboard-wise.

I'm going to tell you right now, don't hold your breath for the Merge. As I have said it on htcmerge.com, the merge is like a $2 hooker. It's been everywhere but sticks nowhere and leaves with a bad taste.
it's a damn good phone though, I had a chance to handle the Merge in person and I loved it.. except i'm on AT&T and can't unlock the damn thing.

So HTC Merge wouldn't work for me as I live in Europe, huh? I won't be able to use the phone with my sim-card, right? The same goes for Evo Shift 4g too, right?
hmm... htc desire z and g2... don't they both got the annoying loose hinge, or?
Nah, to be honest, I was more than happy with T-mobile's mytouch 3g slide. The only and major flaws on that was the non-HD camera and that annoying "Generic Failure"-error when sending/receiving a MMS... other than that, it was a GREAT phone! Loved the keys layout too!
So yeah, if there'd be a way to fix those things on the mytouch 3g slide, then i'd definitely get that phone again as this G2 of mine is just...well...crap and HEAVY..

Lol I love the keyboard aha... compared to my motorola cliq. G2 and DisireZs keyboard is pretty good
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G2 is the best. Phone design is so good. Both me and my girlfriend rock this.
We also have a third line for our business. It is a mytouch4G. While is honestly the iPhone killer. Both and my girlfriend prefer the g2. Its just awesome.
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elgy said:
So HTC Merge wouldn't work for me as I live in Europe, huh? I won't be able to use the phone with my sim-card, right? The same goes for Evo Shift 4g too, right?
hmm... htc desire z and g2... don't they both got the annoying loose hinge, or?
Nah, to be honest, I was more than happy with T-mobile's mytouch 3g slide. The only and major flaws on that was the non-HD camera and that annoying "Generic Failure"-error when sending/receiving a MMS... other than that, it was a GREAT phone! Loved the keys layout too!
So yeah, if there'd be a way to fix those things on the mytouch 3g slide, then i'd definitely get that phone again as this G2 of mine is just...well...crap and HEAVY..
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essentially yes. Don't expect the merge or evo shift 4g to work on any carrier except for their own respective companies. sorry.
as I mentioned in other posts, the hinge can be "modded" with a new stronger spring to get it a real snap.

mputtr said:
essentially yes. Don't expect the merge or evo shift 4g to work on any carrier except for their own respective companies. sorry.
as I mentioned in other posts, the hinge can be "modded" with a new stronger spring to get it a real snap.
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I thought one of the key selling points of the Merge was that it was going to be one of Verizon's "global" edition phones (so CDMA for Verizon networks with a SIM slot for quad-band GSM and 2100 UMTS). Not sure if that's changed since the specs were originally leaked though...

it's global, but not global 3G...
the 2100 UMTS is not used in every country. so yes, it's a global phone, but on edge. on 3G, it would only work in countries that use the 2100 band exclusively so it's heavily carrier and country dependent. THAT and they would want you to be using the carrier's international plan over the local plan so they can still charge you up the ass while you're travelling.

mputtr said:
it's global, but not global 3G...
the 2100 UMTS is not used in every country. so yes, it's a global phone, but on edge. on 3G, it would only work in countries that use the 2100 band exclusively so it's heavily carrier and country dependent. THAT and they would want you to be using the carrier's international plan over the local plan so they can still charge you up the ass while you're travelling.
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Well yes, but 2100 UMTS is used almost everywhere except for the Americas (some exceptions apply, but most of Europe and Asia support it). This is the same reason the G2 is attractive for overseas use, too. Without the Merge actually being out yet, it's hard to say, but I think the idea would be people would get it unlocked so they could turn off the CDMA radio when overseas and use a local SIM for everything. Just speculation for now though...

Should I sell my nexus S for a G2??

Convince me. The stainless Steele body is appealing to me. I don't really see a difference in the processor speeds, and the full keyboard is appealing. Battery life on my nexus s is unimpressive however and I've heard that the nexus s packs a bigger battery. Can anyone persuad me????
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HTC > Samsung
End of discussion.
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Lol could you slightly eloborate
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Not gonna lie with the recent 1.3ghz kernel for the Nexus S and the insane benchmark results at that level, I was tempted to sell my G2 and pick up one. In the end though, I love my G2 too much to give it up.

Japan chip.
Expandable SD chip
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Hspa chip *
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Well I'd be using at&t... so I'd be isolated to edge. I have a 4g wimax hotspot iI take with me tho so it's not an issue. How is the screen compared to the nexus s?
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I'll trade you my g2 fo the nexus s ;].
In terms of screens most would probably like the nexus s screens more since its more vibrant <--- LOL.. colorful and all that smack. However the g2's screen would likely to be sharper than the nexus s. All depends on what you are using it for. Nexus s's screen would be better than g2 if you were doing multimedia, but g2 is probably better for reading text and etc.
EDIT: I would like to note that once you feel the g2's build you most likely won't want to let go of it. Just feels so solid. I took my cases off the g2 because I missed the feeling of the actual phone

The G2? Why not wait for a dualcore phone? hehe.

jthornton71707 said:
Well I'd be using at&t... so I'd be isolated to edge. I have a 4g wimax hotspot iI take with me tho so it's not an issue. How is the screen compared to the nexus s?
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You can get the Desire Z, the Bell Canada brand uses the same band width AT&T 3g 850mhz and 1900mhz so you can have the HTC Vision for AT&T and still get 3g speeds, heres a link to specs on the Bell Desire Z:
http://www.bell.ca/shopping/en_CA_ON.HTC-Desire-Z/70785.details?tab=1&wlcs_catalog_item_sku=70785
Heres a snip from the spec page:
Connectivity
Compatible with the HSPA network
14.4 Mbps
Global access
Wi-Fi 802.11 b/g/n
Mobile Wi-Fi Hotspot (connect up to 8 Wi-Fi devices)
DLNA
GPS
Bluetooth® 2.1
Micro USB connection
UMTS/HSPA 850/1900
GSM/GPRS/EDGE 850/900/1800/1900

joemm said:
You can get the Desire Z, the Bell Canada brand uses the same band width AT&T 3g 850mhz and 1900mhz so you can have the HTC Vision for AT&T and still get 3g speeds, heres a link to specs on the Bell Desire Z:
http://www.bell.ca/shopping/en_CA_ON.HTC-Desire-Z/70785.details?tab=1&wlcs_catalog_item_sku=70785
Heres a snip from the spec page:
Connectivity
Compatible with the HSPA network
14.4 Mbps
Global access
Wi-Fi 802.11 b/g/n
Mobile Wi-Fi Hotspot (connect up to 8 Wi-Fi devices)
DLNA
GPS
Bluetooth® 2.1
Micro USB connection
UMTS/HSPA 850/1900
GSM/GPRS/EDGE 850/900/1800/1900
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Wow so if I buy this phone it'll work with at&t 3g??? Where can I buy? I've just been browsing craigslist
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jthornton71707 said:
Wow so if I buy this phone it'll work with at&t 3g??? Where can I buy? I've just been browsing craigslist
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I found this thread on a diffrent web site from someone who bought one for AT&T, heres what it said:
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Finally gave up on ATT getting any decent Android devices. Well, the Fascinate seems OK, but lots of complaints on these forums (and elsewhere) about various things. Plus, the outlook for new devices in the first part of next year does not look very promising either. And I've always been a big HTC fan. I found out that Bell Canada released the HTC Desire Z about a month ago, with 3G bands compatible with ATT's network. I decided to take the plunge. Not an easy pill to swallow, as an unlocked, unsubsidized device like this goes for a premium (and obviously not for everyone). But what the heck, its a been a good year, and I decided to get myself a Christmas gift.
For those that may not know, and are interested in the Desire Z, the Bell-branded NAM version, model number A7275 is currently the only one that will work with ATT's 3G network. The European and T-Mobile (the G2) versions will only work on EDGE. So take care when shopping around.
Let me tell you guys, this device is amazing. The build quality is excellent, with most of the body being a gorgeous brushed aluminum, accented with some slightly grippy plastic (also nice looking, and does not cheapen the appearance). The keyboard is very good. The layout is slightly different from my trusty old Tilt2, with the keys slightly smaller (and one less row of keys). But after one week with the device, I'm already adjusting quite well.
I've played around with Project Android on my trusty old Tilt2, so Android is not completely new to me. I'm still getting accustomed to where some things are located, but that is true with switching to any new phone OS. Knocks on Android for not being as "smooth" as the iPhone seem largely unfounded to me. The Desire Z is super smooth, and of course has tons of customization and functionality that the iPhone will never have. And the HTC Sense modifications are all very nice.
TO get the phone up and running, I just had to slip my SIM into the device, and manually enter in the ATT data network APN settings (only had WiFi before I did this), and was good to go with 3G speed. I already keep my contacts, email, calendar on Google. So the Google implementation is awesome for me. I just entered my Google login and password, and it synched all that stuff in a couple minutes.
The vendor stated on their website that SIM unlocking voids the manufacturers warranty. So I decided to go ahead and root, the day after I received the phone (and now overclocked, as well). Also used a couple different tools (Titanium Backup and Absolute System Root Tool) to successfully remove the Bell bloatware. The Bell ROM is missing the HTC Locations app (I use Google Maps all the time anyway), and the Android car panel (which I don't really like), but otherwise, the Bell ROM is pretty close to stock. So I'll stick with the stock ROM for now.
Moral of the story, no regrets buying an unlocked Desire Z. Absolutely loving it!
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I highlighted in red above the exact model you need to buy for it to work on AT&T 3g network and I remember reading somewhere else that it has to be this exact model number, I think it was in a thread here on xda developers and they gave a link on where to but it from, Ill try and find it for you, but in the mean time heres the link for the site I got the above thread from.
http://forums.wireless.att.com/t5/A...e-Z-unlocked-Bell-Canada-branded/td-p/2631459

I find HTC's build quality to be much better that Samsung's. The heft and the feeling of the desire z, is what originally won me over when I was debating between it and the samsung vibrant.

jthornton71707 said:
Wow so if I buy this phone it'll work with at&t 3g??? Where can I buy? I've just been browsing craigslist
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I purchased mine from Ebay. I believe Negri Electronics also sells it online. It'll run you in the neighborhood of $500-600.

I'm selling my Nexus for a G2. I'm going to make at least $250, and the G2 seems at least equal to or better than the Nexus in every category except the screen. I can sacrifice the SAMOLED for a SLCD for $250 (plus the added benefits like a non-plastic body, 4G, a keyboard, and a notification LED).
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TheBiles said:
I'm selling my Nexus for a G2. I'm going to make at least $250, and the G2 seems at least equal to or better than the Nexus in every category except the screen. I can sacrifice the SAMOLED for a SLCD for $250 (plus the added benefits like a non-plastic body, 4G, a keyboard, and a notification LED).
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Wow, that was quick, didnt you just get your G2?
Guess that speaks volumes for the G2 vs Nexus S.

joemm said:
Wow, that was quick, didnt you just get your G2?
Guess that speaks volumes for the G2 vs Nexus S.
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Man. I was considering selling my G2 and picking up a Nexus S, but this thread has pretty much gotten rid of that idea. What do you guys think about the MT4G, though? I am still considering picking up that one and dumping the G2. (Still haven't gotten accustomed to the keyboard.)

I'm baffled why anyone would want a myTouch over a G2.
Just saying that dumbass name pisses me off. myTouch. ugggggh
However, I wouldn't mind having a Nexus S to play with. I don't think I'd ever give up my G2 though. <3

Hot_Hands said:
I'm baffled why anyone would want a myTouch over a G2.
Just saying that dumbass name pisses me off. myTouch. ugggggh
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This. Not to mention its a pretty ugly device.

boost3d23 said:
This. Not to mention its a pretty ugly device.
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Yeah, when I first decided to buy a new phone a couple of weeks ago, I just figured the myTouch was a ****ty phone based on its name and was going with the G2 for sure, but then I learned that it certainly competes hardware-wise...and coming from an iPhone 3G, I would very possibly be more comfortable with its form factor.
Lighter and smaller, too. I suppose if this "mirror" tool ends up working well so I can video chat with the G2, that will solve my last big problem. Anyone think that will pan out?