I am trying to get peoples opinions about on which phone I should get... I have a Samsung Vibrant and I hate the phone... I have narrowed down to the two options, 1) Mytouch 4G or 2) G2. I don't know which one i should get or if any of those two are for me at all. If everyone could give me their opinions that would be awesome!
Slide out keyboard over front facing camera anyday... g2
Its personal preference. Both have advantages over the other. The MyTouch4G has a front facing camera, 256MB more ram and is slimmer. The G2 has a full physical keyboard, more solid design, better dev support.
the mytouch series is a joke. they're for people who dont really know what android is and its capabilities.
g2. any day.
or if its your cup of tea, wait for the nexus s.
Nexus S. Buying a mt4g is a joke right now.
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I would take the mytouch 4g over the nexus s. It has more features and the hardware is better. It may not be as pretty as the nexus s but it's not ugly.
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nivlac978 said:
I would take the mytouch 4g over the nexus s. It has more features and the hardware is better. It may not be as pretty as the nexus s but it's not ugly.
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Well when I think about it:
4G MicroSD 720P Recording LED Notification
Nexus S No No No No
MyTouch Yes Yes Yes Yes
Sooo its kind of tough to recommend the Nexus S over the MyTouch
Vandam500 said:
Well when I think about it:
4G MicroSD 720P Recording LED Notification
Nexus S No No No No
MyTouch Yes Yes Yes Yes
Sooo its kind of tough to recommend the Nexus S over the MyTouch
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Its true.
But it wasnt long ago the ORIGINAL MyTouch got a Froyo update.
So you already know how TMO will be treating updates for the MyTouch 4G.
Its very possible you wont get Gingerbread till after Honeycomb is released.
You have to decide what you want in a phone.
I just moved from the Nexus One to the G2 this weekend to give it a try.
The G2 is faster but I may jump back to the N1 so I can have Gingerbread.
I like the faster updates personally.
I wont get a Nexus S for a few months after they are released.
I'll wait till they start showing up on Craigslist for $200 less than the
price of a new one.
Vandam500 said:
Well when I think about it:
4G MicroSD 720P Recording LED Notification
Nexus S No No No No
MyTouch Yes Yes Yes Yes
Sooo its kind of tough to recommend the Nexus S over the MyTouch
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Except T-Mo 4G is not 4G... its just HSPA+, but the Nexus S doesnt even have HSPA+.
The G2 has the same connection speed as the MT4G, and is just as powerful, if not more so especially with the crazy overclocks it can pull.
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Except T-Mo 4G is not 4G... its just HSPA+, but the Nexus S doesnt even have HSPA+.
The G2 has the same connection speed as the MT4G, and is just as powerful, if not more so especially with the crazy overclocks it can pull.
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Well it may not be real "4G" but I get 4G like speeds
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Its true.
But it wasnt long ago the ORIGINAL MyTouch got a Froyo update.
So you already know how TMO will be treating updates for the MyTouch 4G.
Its very possible you wont get Gingerbread till after Honeycomb is released.
You have to decide what you want in a phone.
I just moved from the Nexus One to the G2 this weekend to give it a try.
The G2 is faster but I may jump back to the N1 so I can have Gingerbread.
I like the faster updates personally.
I wont get a Nexus S for a few months after they are released.
I'll wait till they start showing up on Craigslist for $200 less than the
price of a new one.
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Remember the G2 has full support from the ROM makers. It will get Gingerbread pretty soon via XDA. I say matter of weeks, maybe days after the Gingerbread source has been released
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Except T-Mo 4G is not 4G... its just HSPA+, but the Nexus S doesnt even have HSPA+.
The G2 has the same connection speed as the MT4G, and is just as powerful, if not more so especially with the crazy overclocks it can pull.
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Yeah so sick of this argument. NOBODY has real "technical" 4G. But its faster than 3G, so that makes it 4G. Its a new generation of data speeds, get over the semantics. I do agree that its lame to exclude some of the things excluded on the Nexus S, including 4G.
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G2 if you type a lot and want almost stock Froyo
Mytouch4G if you want a front facing camera and don't mind TMobile's HTC sense
But then again this is XDA, you can root and get whatever lovely ROM a developer has cooked up on your phone. So it just comes down to hardware if you want to root it.
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Yeah so sick of this argument. NOBODY has real "technical" 4G. But its faster than 3G, so that makes it 4G. Its a new generation of data speeds, get over the semantics.
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Not to mention at current speeds (whatever you want to call them) it's very easy to eat through your entire monthly bandwidth cap in an afternoon. Given this, wtf is the point of more speed? I'd take a higher cap over more speed any day of the week at this point.
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Yeah so sick of this argument. NOBODY has real "technical" 4G. But its faster than 3G, so that makes it 4G.
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EDGE is faster than GPRS (2G), so did that make it 3G ? HSDPA is faster than 3G, so should we call that 4G ?
HSPA+ isn't "4G", so I don't think it's helpful to label it as such. Bad T-Mobile !
I got the G2 and my wife picked the white MyTouch 4G. Personally, I think the G2 is better (obviously). It has a hardware keyboard, better dev support, stock Android (with a *really* easy HTC Sense port, since the Desire Z is the same hardware).
Preferences aside, the MyTouch line is really.....plasticky. When I use her phone, the plastic squeaks like crazy - that annoys me like no other, especially on such a 'high-end' phone.
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EDGE is faster than GPRS (2G), so did that make it 3G ? HSDPA is faster than 3G, so should we call that 4G ?
HSPA+ isn't "4G", so I don't think it's helpful to label it as such. Bad T-Mobile !
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Thank you. Peoples need to understand this. 4G by ITU-R standards is only available through networks with IMT-Advanced, and trust me....NO network has that capabilities yet......
With that aside,I'd go with the G2!! More industrial feel, not plasticky like samsung and mytouch 4g. Even the nexus S won't feel as good as the G2, even with the better hardware.
I wish Google would have stayed with HTC for the second Nexus.
keyboard or NO keyboard, that is the question..
I went with the Desire Z for a few reasons:
Great Developer Support
GREAT Build Quality - I HATE phones that are made of any plastic/cheap material
QWERTY Keyboard - I send upwards of 100 Messages a day between SMS and Email
New Generation Processor - The 800mhz was a disappointment to me when I read the specs, but after reading of its over-clocking capabilities and having run mine at 1.4ghz for the past few weeks, this is a huge advantage of the G2/Desire Z.
Related
http://free-pc-guides.com/news/veri...tible-samsunggoogle-nexus-s-in-february-07514
the hell
Same rumor running amok, but baseless rumors aside, would it be that surprising that a Verizon Nexus S will take advantage of a network which Veriz. is about to push hard (LTE/"4G")? Will Samsung's processors be optimized by February for different network's "4G"?
It's entirely possible, even understandable.
This could be true, but I bet Verizon will want Google to plaster their logo on it and give it some "features"(bloatware) only available on Verizon. Also, there is no way Samsung would ever have that much time to optimize a new radio in 2 months without them ****ing up:
"Dear Samsung, my 4g radio keeps going out please fix it!"
Fix? Oh just use 3g, you now have a 3g enabled device.
Just an example that you can't rush things like that. Unless they have been working real closely with Samsung to deliver a 4g enabled Nexus S. A Nexus S sounds a little more realistic but a 4g Nexus S sounds pretty much unimaginable. Notice how Samsung didn't even put the HSPA+ on this one, you really think they are going to make their second flagship device not have 4g and make a new edition that does the some minor changes(like an iPhone)?
Im sorry but Tmobiles HSPA 7.2 is plenty fast,
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Im sorry but Tmobiles HSPA 7.2 is plenty fast,
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T-mobile's HSPA+ 21mbps is faster
I doubt it. Why would they want a google flagship phone. There are rumors that they are getting the iphone. May go to sprint?
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Verizon getting their version of the Nexus-S would not surprise me one bit if they did.
Remember, Verizon had their own version of the Nexus-1 as well... called the HTC Incredible
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T-mobile's HSPA+ 21mbps is faster
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the HSPA+ phones on T-Mo are all 14.4 though but yes still faster
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the HSPA+ phones on T-Mo are all 14.4 though but yes still faster
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And max out on 10, if lucky. Vibrant maxed at 7.2mbps. G2 hit 10. Nothing higher. And probably won't be.
Even then, holy cow guys. 7.2mbps is super fast. Guess what Verizon does? 1-2. Guess what AT&T does? 1.3~? Guess what Sprint "4g" does? Honestly dunno but I'm assuming 2-6.
T-Mobile was already lightning fast before this whole "4g" talk and I have no complaints. 7.2mbps on my cell phone is fast enough for the next... year. Of course then I'll be buying the Nexus 3.
i get like 2-3mbs on the myTouch 3g Slide and i dont complain about it. Im in NY I would think i be getting higher.
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i get like 2-3mbs on the myTouch 3g Slide and i dont complain about it. Im in NY I would think i be getting higher.
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you got to remember in new york peak time is all the time
In Corona CA/LA area i get 5-6 mbs down and 1.3 up
it should be noted that mbs/kbps is not a very true depiction of data transfer
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you got to remember in new york peak time is all the time
In Corona CA/LA area i get 5-6 mbs down and 1.3 up
it should be noted that mbs/kbps is not a very true depiction of data transfer
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That why I don't really care if it has 4g. my sister have the myTouch 4g and she don't get that much more then me.
As i see it the Nexus S is a huge upgrade from the myTouch 3G slide
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That why I don't really care if it has 4g. my sister have the myTouch 4g and she don't get that much more then me.
As i see it the Nexus S is a huge upgrade from the myTouch 3G slide
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yup it would be IMHO
this thread is hilarious... i would be surprised if Verizon got the NS.. back when N1 was released Google actually had a grayed out Verizon option on the N1 sale page but Verizon still never got the N1.
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this thread is hilarious... i would be surprised if Verizon got the NS.. back when N1 was released Google actually had a grayed out Verizon option on the N1 sale page but Verizon still never got the N1.
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When the N1 came out the Droid was verizons baby they didnt want nothing to do with the Nexus and i doubt they will
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When the N1 came out the Droid was verizons baby they didnt want nothing to do with the Nexus and i doubt they will
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yeah but Verizon just names any Android phone Droid "whatever" its not like the Droid is a specific phone lol... if they got the Nexus they would of called it the Droid Nexus and you all know this lol
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yeah but Verizon just names any Android phone Droid "whatever" its not like the Droid is a specific phone lol... if they got the Nexus they would of called it the Droid Nexus and you all know this lol
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and i would go into a Verizon store a brutally slaughter everyone hahaha
Doubt Verizon is gonna get the Nexus S. You guys do know that, so far, the last two Samsung Android phones Verizon released had Bing on it, right? Also, none of them had the Droid name. I don't know if Verizon would want to change that pattern.
Convince me. The stainless Steele body is appealing to me. I don't really see a difference in the processor speeds, and the full keyboard is appealing. Battery life on my nexus s is unimpressive however and I've heard that the nexus s packs a bigger battery. Can anyone persuad me????
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HTC > Samsung
End of discussion.
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Lol could you slightly eloborate
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Not gonna lie with the recent 1.3ghz kernel for the Nexus S and the insane benchmark results at that level, I was tempted to sell my G2 and pick up one. In the end though, I love my G2 too much to give it up.
Japan chip.
Expandable SD chip
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Hspa chip *
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Well I'd be using at&t... so I'd be isolated to edge. I have a 4g wimax hotspot iI take with me tho so it's not an issue. How is the screen compared to the nexus s?
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I'll trade you my g2 fo the nexus s ;].
In terms of screens most would probably like the nexus s screens more since its more vibrant <--- LOL.. colorful and all that smack. However the g2's screen would likely to be sharper than the nexus s. All depends on what you are using it for. Nexus s's screen would be better than g2 if you were doing multimedia, but g2 is probably better for reading text and etc.
EDIT: I would like to note that once you feel the g2's build you most likely won't want to let go of it. Just feels so solid. I took my cases off the g2 because I missed the feeling of the actual phone
The G2? Why not wait for a dualcore phone? hehe.
jthornton71707 said:
Well I'd be using at&t... so I'd be isolated to edge. I have a 4g wimax hotspot iI take with me tho so it's not an issue. How is the screen compared to the nexus s?
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You can get the Desire Z, the Bell Canada brand uses the same band width AT&T 3g 850mhz and 1900mhz so you can have the HTC Vision for AT&T and still get 3g speeds, heres a link to specs on the Bell Desire Z:
http://www.bell.ca/shopping/en_CA_ON.HTC-Desire-Z/70785.details?tab=1&wlcs_catalog_item_sku=70785
Heres a snip from the spec page:
Connectivity
Compatible with the HSPA network
14.4 Mbps
Global access
Wi-Fi 802.11 b/g/n
Mobile Wi-Fi Hotspot (connect up to 8 Wi-Fi devices)
DLNA
GPS
Bluetooth® 2.1
Micro USB connection
UMTS/HSPA 850/1900
GSM/GPRS/EDGE 850/900/1800/1900
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You can get the Desire Z, the Bell Canada brand uses the same band width AT&T 3g 850mhz and 1900mhz so you can have the HTC Vision for AT&T and still get 3g speeds, heres a link to specs on the Bell Desire Z:
http://www.bell.ca/shopping/en_CA_ON.HTC-Desire-Z/70785.details?tab=1&wlcs_catalog_item_sku=70785
Heres a snip from the spec page:
Connectivity
Compatible with the HSPA network
14.4 Mbps
Global access
Wi-Fi 802.11 b/g/n
Mobile Wi-Fi Hotspot (connect up to 8 Wi-Fi devices)
DLNA
GPS
Bluetooth® 2.1
Micro USB connection
UMTS/HSPA 850/1900
GSM/GPRS/EDGE 850/900/1800/1900
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Wow so if I buy this phone it'll work with at&t 3g??? Where can I buy? I've just been browsing craigslist
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Wow so if I buy this phone it'll work with at&t 3g??? Where can I buy? I've just been browsing craigslist
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I found this thread on a diffrent web site from someone who bought one for AT&T, heres what it said:
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Finally gave up on ATT getting any decent Android devices. Well, the Fascinate seems OK, but lots of complaints on these forums (and elsewhere) about various things. Plus, the outlook for new devices in the first part of next year does not look very promising either. And I've always been a big HTC fan. I found out that Bell Canada released the HTC Desire Z about a month ago, with 3G bands compatible with ATT's network. I decided to take the plunge. Not an easy pill to swallow, as an unlocked, unsubsidized device like this goes for a premium (and obviously not for everyone). But what the heck, its a been a good year, and I decided to get myself a Christmas gift.
For those that may not know, and are interested in the Desire Z, the Bell-branded NAM version, model number A7275 is currently the only one that will work with ATT's 3G network. The European and T-Mobile (the G2) versions will only work on EDGE. So take care when shopping around.
Let me tell you guys, this device is amazing. The build quality is excellent, with most of the body being a gorgeous brushed aluminum, accented with some slightly grippy plastic (also nice looking, and does not cheapen the appearance). The keyboard is very good. The layout is slightly different from my trusty old Tilt2, with the keys slightly smaller (and one less row of keys). But after one week with the device, I'm already adjusting quite well.
I've played around with Project Android on my trusty old Tilt2, so Android is not completely new to me. I'm still getting accustomed to where some things are located, but that is true with switching to any new phone OS. Knocks on Android for not being as "smooth" as the iPhone seem largely unfounded to me. The Desire Z is super smooth, and of course has tons of customization and functionality that the iPhone will never have. And the HTC Sense modifications are all very nice.
TO get the phone up and running, I just had to slip my SIM into the device, and manually enter in the ATT data network APN settings (only had WiFi before I did this), and was good to go with 3G speed. I already keep my contacts, email, calendar on Google. So the Google implementation is awesome for me. I just entered my Google login and password, and it synched all that stuff in a couple minutes.
The vendor stated on their website that SIM unlocking voids the manufacturers warranty. So I decided to go ahead and root, the day after I received the phone (and now overclocked, as well). Also used a couple different tools (Titanium Backup and Absolute System Root Tool) to successfully remove the Bell bloatware. The Bell ROM is missing the HTC Locations app (I use Google Maps all the time anyway), and the Android car panel (which I don't really like), but otherwise, the Bell ROM is pretty close to stock. So I'll stick with the stock ROM for now.
Moral of the story, no regrets buying an unlocked Desire Z. Absolutely loving it!
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I highlighted in red above the exact model you need to buy for it to work on AT&T 3g network and I remember reading somewhere else that it has to be this exact model number, I think it was in a thread here on xda developers and they gave a link on where to but it from, Ill try and find it for you, but in the mean time heres the link for the site I got the above thread from.
http://forums.wireless.att.com/t5/A...e-Z-unlocked-Bell-Canada-branded/td-p/2631459
I find HTC's build quality to be much better that Samsung's. The heft and the feeling of the desire z, is what originally won me over when I was debating between it and the samsung vibrant.
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Wow so if I buy this phone it'll work with at&t 3g??? Where can I buy? I've just been browsing craigslist
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I purchased mine from Ebay. I believe Negri Electronics also sells it online. It'll run you in the neighborhood of $500-600.
I'm selling my Nexus for a G2. I'm going to make at least $250, and the G2 seems at least equal to or better than the Nexus in every category except the screen. I can sacrifice the SAMOLED for a SLCD for $250 (plus the added benefits like a non-plastic body, 4G, a keyboard, and a notification LED).
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I'm selling my Nexus for a G2. I'm going to make at least $250, and the G2 seems at least equal to or better than the Nexus in every category except the screen. I can sacrifice the SAMOLED for a SLCD for $250 (plus the added benefits like a non-plastic body, 4G, a keyboard, and a notification LED).
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Wow, that was quick, didnt you just get your G2?
Guess that speaks volumes for the G2 vs Nexus S.
joemm said:
Wow, that was quick, didnt you just get your G2?
Guess that speaks volumes for the G2 vs Nexus S.
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Man. I was considering selling my G2 and picking up a Nexus S, but this thread has pretty much gotten rid of that idea. What do you guys think about the MT4G, though? I am still considering picking up that one and dumping the G2. (Still haven't gotten accustomed to the keyboard.)
I'm baffled why anyone would want a myTouch over a G2.
Just saying that dumbass name pisses me off. myTouch. ugggggh
However, I wouldn't mind having a Nexus S to play with. I don't think I'd ever give up my G2 though. <3
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I'm baffled why anyone would want a myTouch over a G2.
Just saying that dumbass name pisses me off. myTouch. ugggggh
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This. Not to mention its a pretty ugly device.
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This. Not to mention its a pretty ugly device.
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Yeah, when I first decided to buy a new phone a couple of weeks ago, I just figured the myTouch was a ****ty phone based on its name and was going with the G2 for sure, but then I learned that it certainly competes hardware-wise...and coming from an iPhone 3G, I would very possibly be more comfortable with its form factor.
Lighter and smaller, too. I suppose if this "mirror" tool ends up working well so I can video chat with the G2, that will solve my last big problem. Anyone think that will pan out?
can someone please explain to me whats the Hype with the Htc Thunderbolt? isnt it basically a Evo with a bump in Ram and Verizon suppose Lte Network? More or less what we have had with the evo for a while now.?
Pretty much.
The core is a newer generation so its comparable to the Evo shift.
Not worth $200 with two year.
It's hyped because verizon is finally getting something to compete with us
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8GB internal storage plus a bit more RAM. Looking at the specs that appears to be it, apart from LTE insetad of WiMAX. Even has the same Snapdragon processor.
Oh, there's template support for emails on the Evo but not the Thunderbolt, but who really uses templates anyway?
Unless Verizon puts a crapload of bloat on it, it might actually perform better than the Evo because of the reduced number of apps no one cares about (Navigation, NFL, NASCAR, etc.)
source for spec check: phonearena.com
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8GB internal storage plus a bit more RAM. Looking at the specs that appears to be it, apart from LTE insetad of WiMAX. Even has the same Snapdragon processor.
Oh, there's template support for emails on the Evo but not the Thunderbolt, but who really uses templates anyway?
Unless Verizon puts a crapload of bloat on it, it might actually perform better than the Evo because of the reduced number of apps no one cares about (Navigation, NFL, NASCAR, etc.)
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I believe the snapdragon in the thunderbolt is a bit newer generation than the evo.
Verizon is enough reason to forget using the thunderbolt
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I believe the snapdragon in the thunderbolt is a bit newer generation than the evo.
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Yeah it is but is the same evo just redesign more like evo 1.5
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Verizon is enough reason to forget using the thunderbolt
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Why ? Verizon data is faster then Sprint I know the plans are more expensive but you got to recognize their coverage
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Pretty much.
The core is a newer generation so its comparable to the Evo shift.
Not worth $200 with two year.
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Anyone who truly believes this, is an ass. The Thunderbolt is better than any Sprint phone that's out, spec wise. EVO's development is the true gem, for now. It's the only reason I still post in here, even though I have other daily drivers. Give credit where credit is due. Sprint will get their just desserts soon, trust me.
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Anyone who truly believes this, is a ass. The Thunderbolt is better than any Sprint phone that's out, spec wise. EVO's development is the true gem, for now. It's the only reason I still post in here, even though I have other daily drivers. Give credit where credit is due. Sprint will get their just desserts soon, trust me.
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An ass why?
Will all due respect, the HTC Thunderbolt is the Evo Shift with an LTE radio.
Is that bad?
No.
Is it worth $199.99 with a two-year agreement?
Considering what we KNOW is coming very soon, no.
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An ass why?
Will all due respect, the HTC Thunderbolt is the Evo Shift with an LTE radio.
Is that bad?
No.
Is it worth $199.99 with a two-year agreement?
Considering what we KNOW is coming very soon, no.
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Actually it got the new sense as well and 1 gbz snapdragon (not the same as the evo , this is the new version ,which the shift 4G has lower ) and the shift 4G got something between the old sense and the new one but not desire hd sense tho
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Actually it got the new sense as well and 1 gbz snapdragon (not the same as the evo , this is the new version ,which the shift 4G has lower ) and the shift 4G got something between the old sense and the new one but not desire hd sense tho
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Well that only matters if you care about sense, but it's been suggested [and is completely realistic] that the Evo/Evo Shift will be getting the new sense.
As far as the core it's pretty much the same exact one as in the Evo Shift except instead of clocked at 800 mhz it's clocked at 1GHZ.
So, at best, it's an extremely minor spec bump from the Evo Shift.
That extra 200MHz is all that's needed to possibly get a Gingerbread update...
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That extra 200MHz is all that's needed to possibly get a Gingerbread update...
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Um... why couldn't an 800mhz core get it too??
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That extra 200MHz is all that's needed to possibly get a Gingerbread update...
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Well the extra MHz doesn't really give u update as Google said it they never put how much you CPU has to be to run gingerbread 800GHz should be more then enough , it all depends on HTC and Sprint
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People seem to be in denial that the Evo isnt the best phone on the market anymore. And honestly the LTE alone was enough to make me switch. If you want to see the huge differences, look at the benchmark comparisons on youtube between the thunderbolt and the evo. It's not even remotely close.
Thunderbolt has a fatter kickstand and they put a larger speaker behind the kickstand. Pretty neat.
The HTC Thunderbolt (ADR6400 codename "Scorpion or Mecha") will be the first 4G LTE smartphone on Verizon Wireless. It is a CDMA variant of the HTC Desire HD. It was first announced at CES on January 6, 2011. This phone is to be considered the flagship phone for Verizon, going head to head with the HTC EVO.
In addition to 4G service, the Thunderbolt will be the first Verizon phone to support simultaneous Voice/Data over 3G without the help of Wi-Fi.
You can run gingerbread on your phone clocked down to 250 MHz. Animations will be choppy but it'll run just fine. So all this B.S. about mhz is b.s.
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Thunderbolt will be the first Verizon phone to support simultaneous Voice/Data over 3G without the help of Wi-Fi.
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orly?
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To be fair, simultaneous voice and data over 3G will be possible with Sprint as well. Verizon just happened to drop a phone that will use it first. The chipset wasn't ready when EVO was in production.Inspire 4G and HTC Thunderbolt is of the same cloth, but a minor spec to the EVO Shift, which is a carbon copy of the G2? That's just inviting the flames. Verizon's answer to the EVO was the Droid X, not the TB. People don't understand how long the EVO was being worked on by HTC and Sprint. It was a true flagship. HTC Pyramid is a true flagship, so keep your eyes on it at CTIA.
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Why ? Verizon data is faster then Sprint I know the plans are more expensive but you got to recognize their coverage
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You mean that made up patched up coverage map of roaming agreements?
my 3g and 4g speeds are crazy, i normally get between 800k-1.1mbps on 3G and like 7 or 8mbps on 4G. the last major 3G speedtest done rated At&t 1st over 3G (where its available), and Sprint came in at 2nd place. ive NEVER had any signal issues with sprint. And i travel frequently. the truth of the matter is the Sprint vs Verizon battle is never ending, but at the end of the day, it only matters if it works where YOU need it to work at.
Now, I will say that we all know about sprints recent 3G data speed troubles, but im sure they will have it fixed soon. ****ty, but true.
As far as the thunderbolt goes, Im not envious of it at all. The new Snapdragon core + more ram is better, but other than the its just the Evo, with a LTE radio in it. Better than the Evo? yes. Enough to make me switch? No chance
Anyone plan on switching once this phone is released. I'm really thinking about it..
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I'm thinking about grabbing one. The lack of a trackpad has me wondering though and I really prefer dedicated camera buttons. Also, with the battery woes that have plagued the Evo and other 4 inchers I'm notkeen on taking the plunge.
Im honestly not 100 percent sure. I do love my G2, of course, but most likely I will try to pick one up. I've been wanting a 4.3 incher for a while but it wasn't available on tmobile other than the HD2. The sensation is a beautiful device and I already know its going to get a lot of dev support.
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If only it had a keyboard *sigh*
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Frankly, and though this may not be a very popular opinion in this forum, SGS2 completely destroys Sensation. I'm so tired of HTC's constant corner-cutting (crappy speakers, terrible cameras, RAM, internal memory etc.)
Only thing Sensation has going for it is possibly superior developer support.
Yes the sgs2 has better specs. But samsung is known for their out of the box issues. Look at the nexus s. Vibrant. List goes on. I stay far away from samsung devices. Plus touchwiz completely blows. The new sense 3.0 looks amazing. My wife actually picked up the g2x and it is a amazing device as well. My options are betweeen those 2.
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Yes the sgs2 has better specs. But samsung is known for their out of the box issues. Look at the nexus s. Vibrant. List goes on. I stay far away from samsung devices. Plus touchwiz completely blows. The new sense 3.0 looks amazing. My wife actually picked up the g2x and it is a amazing device as well. My options are betweeen those 2.
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I must agree. Htc does great job on firmware side. Samsung otherwise makes great job on hardware side. If there would be an option for Samsung hardware and htc Sense 3.0 there wouldn't be questioning which phone at least i would buy. Super amoled is just something extraordinary with all the other hardware specs..
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ill be picking one up, fiancee will be getting my G2.
I personally doubt i'll be taking the leap towards a 4"+ model. Brother has the DHD and it feels HUGE in my hand, not as comfortable when making a call when compared to my DZ.
With a lack of a trackpad and no physical keyboard, i'll wait until HTC releases their next flagship phone with those features. Perhaps a Sensation 2.0 with trackpad, keyboard and dedicated camera button??
G2x or Sensation. Just waiting for the sensation to come out to decide which one to get.
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G2x or Sensation. Just waiting for the sensation to come out to decide which one to get.
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Does sensation support both att and tmobile 3g bands?
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Does sensation support both att and tmobile 3g bands?
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From what I've heard it does not support att's 3g bands but att may be buying tmobile anyway so kinda works itself out.
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Nope, I'm ditching the G2 as soon as the Sensation comes out! Man, that phone is beautiful!
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From what I've heard it does not support att's 3g bands but att may be buying tmobile anyway so kinda works itself out.
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According to HTC's spec site, http://www.htc.com/www/product/sensation/specification.html
HSPA/WCDMA: Europe/Asia/T-Mobile US: 900/AWS/2100 MHz
Quad-band GSM/GPRS/EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
Which tells me that the Sensation is a world phone and supports the same bands that Rogers uses for their 3G up here, so it should work on AT&T's 3G network in the states!
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According to HTC's spec site, http://www.htc.com/www/product/sensation/specification.html
HSPA/WCDMA: Europe/Asia/T-Mobile US: 900/AWS/2100 MHz
Quad-band GSM/GPRS/EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
Which tells me that the Sensation is a world phone and supports the same bands that Rogers uses for their 3G up here, so it should work on AT&T's 3G network in the states!
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What do you mean? The specs you listed show that there is currently no 850/1900 HSPA support...
HTC Sensation 4G official: 1.2GHz dual-core, qHD display, and Sense 3.0 yes thank you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGw8BA98bgg&feature=youtube_gdata_player
I would consider to buy HTC Sensations, unless at the time it is available, there is other phone with higher specs
I love my DZ, the only disadvantages is the screen size and poor processor ;(
I'll give a try for the Sensation. The only requirement is to be able to see what's written on my screen in a sunny day (which is not the case with my Dz, getting mad of having to make shadow to see my screen, even with full luminosity)
Nope. Why fix what isn't broken?
I will be switch to sensation when its released deving there for everyone.
hi, guys/.. i need to make a decision about which phone to get. i'm torn between the HTC EVO 4G and the HTC Inspire 4G. whats important for me is battery life and camcorder and camera quality. i got 3 questions:
1) if optimized with the best roms and kernels for each, which is the best one in terms of batt life?
2) again, if optimized with best roms and kernels, which is the best one in terms of smoothness of camcorder and camera quality?
3) can i use the front camera on the EVO 4G for video chat?
4) do you use video chat a lot?
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Quite obviously, asking in an Evo 4G forum won't get you biased answers. Just saying.
Yeah, I'd hope you'd be asking the same question in the Inspire 4G forums as we, over here, can 'mostly' speak for what we know. The Evo has great dev support / following and I can't be bothered to look (not that it would even be representative of the Inspire support) if it's even similar.
I would first look at providers / carriers. AT&T kind of sucks ... then again, as some will tell you, Sprint doesn't have the greatest coverage in certain areas. I'd first look past the phone options, and on to coverage. I love Sprint, not only because I get good coverage here, but also due to the unlimited data. But that may not be the case for you. Overall, the Inspire may be a better device but I can't be bothered to look. If you are serious about joining Sprint, maybe you'd consider the EVO 3D? Entirely a better phone, yet still waiting on root. Chances are, unless you should get lucky, you'd end up with an un-rootable Evo. In time, though ....
I wouldn't necessarily look, first, to the phones. The Evo is a dated device, no denying that, but still solid. So before you lock yourself in anywhere ...
don't worry about the phones. focus on the service.
Sprint has unlimited 4g data ATT don't
ATT has faster 4g
Sprint is cheaper.
ATT may have better coverage in your area..... maybe it doesn't make a difference. I live i philly. I never have a problem with coverage, even 4g unless I'm undeground which noone has coverage.
I suggest you start with sprint and if you aren't happy with the service return your phone with in 30 days get your money back and go to ATT.
But signing a two year contract you really should get a phone that will be decent in two years. You ain't going to want a evo 4g in two years. Evo 3d on the other hand will blow any HTC on any carrier out of the water right now
Why are these your only two options?
Neither are great choices as of right now imo...
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don't worry about the phones. focus on the service.
Sprint has unlimited 4g data ATT don't
ATT has faster 4g
Sprint is cheaper.
ATT may have better coverage in your area..... maybe it doesn't make a difference. I live i philly. I never have a problem with coverage, even 4g unless I'm undeground which noone has coverage.
I suggest you start with sprint and if you aren't happy with the service return your phone with in 30 days get your money back and go to ATT.
But signing a two year contract you really should get a phone that will be decent in two years. You ain't going to want a evo 4g in two years. Evo 3d on the other hand will blow any HTC on any carrier out of the water right now
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Att doesn't even have real 4g. Sprints 4g is faster
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it all depends if you wanted to root right away.. The Evo 4g shipped from Sprint is now only shipped with the OTA 2.3.3 which is unrootable atm. Hopefully soon as there seems to be alot of progression going on.
The Inspire 4g I dont know much about because I've always wanted an Evo when I started with an Android Phone.. LG Optimus S was my 1st android and now the Evo which is making me mad because I cant root yet.. thanks to HTC locking the bootloader
xlk said:
hi, guys/.. i need to make a decision about which phone to get. i'm torn between the HTC EVO 4G and the HTC Inspire 4G. whats important for me is battery life and camcorder and camera quality. i got 3 questions:
1) if optimized with the best roms and kernels for each, which is the best one in terms of batt life?
2) again, if optimized with best roms and kernels, which is the best one in terms of smoothness of camcorder and camera quality?
3) can i use the front camera on the EVO 4G for video chat?
4) do you use video chat a lot?
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1. My evo got 26 hours of battery life today, before I finally charged it.
2. The sense 3.0 camera takes some absolutely beautiful pictures. I don't really have a good way to rate that, lol
3. Yes
4. Yes
I love my evo. There is a huge and great development community behind it. Which is a huge plus when your looking to root, there's also alot of accesories etc.
Sprint has true 4g that is very easy to turn on off.
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xlk said:
hi, guys/.. i need to make a decision about which phone to get. i'm torn between the HTC EVO 4G and the HTC Inspire 4G. whats important for me is battery life and camcorder and camera quality. i got 3 questions:
1) if optimized with the best roms and kernels for each, which is the best one in terms of batt life?
2) again, if optimized with best roms and kernels, which is the best one in terms of smoothness of camcorder and camera quality?
3) can i use the front camera on the EVO 4G for video chat?
4) do you use video chat a lot?
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1. inspire has a slightly better batt life but only by minutes.
2. camera is about the same
3. yes u can use the evo's ffc for video chat i have used skype,qik and gtalk
4. once or twice a week.
Also another thing to note is the inspire does have sense 2.1 stock and the evo does not. But with a custom rom u can get sense 2.1 or 3.0 on the evo.
ONE HUGE PROBLEM with the inspire is their is a bug where the newest firmware was supposed to unlock non market installs but on some phones the option is still locked. HTC and att do not have a date on when this will be fixed. So what this means is if u get a inspire with this bug u will not be able to install apps from the sd card or the amazon market, U will only be able to install apps thru the android market. This to me makes the choice pretty clear evo all the way
Just get the evo 3D
I would agree with the EVO 3d statement and the plan suggestions. Right now Sprint is the only carrier offering unlimited data plans. Which is pretty huge considering how many things are going cloud based now. Music Beta, Amazon, Spotify, Netflix, Google Movies, etc.. This is more important than ever now.
However, if you never see yourself using these services its really a moot point.
Of course, If you do go with sprint, I'd suggest getting the 3d over the evo if you can spare the extra hundo. Its a way more powerful phone.
To those comparing 4G of Sprint and AT&T...
Aren't they both NOT true 4G? The carriers are just marketing it as 4G because it's faster than 3G. If I remember correctly, 4G is supposed to be between 100mb/s and 1gb/s. The technologies we see right now are considered pre-4g, since they only get up to 144mb/s (144 for WiMAX, 100 for LTE) I'm taking this from the 4G wiki page: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/4G
And yes I know AT&T isn't on either yet... they use HSPA+ which shouldn't even be considered 4G at all lol
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To those comparing 4G of Sprint and AT&T...
Aren't they both NOT true 4G? The carriers are just marketing it as 4G because it's faster than 3G. If I remember correctly, 4G is supposed to be between 100mb/s and 1gb/s. The technologies we see right now are considered pre-4g, since they only get up to 144mb/s (144 for WiMAX, 100 for LTE) I'm taking this from the 4G wiki page: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/4G
And yes I know AT&T isn't on either yet... they use HSPA+ which shouldn't even be considered 4G at all lol
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to cq and the rest of you, i appreciate your input.. but lets stay on topic.. which is the questions that i need answered. thanks.
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to cq and the rest of you, i appreciate your input.. but lets stay on topic.. which is the questions that i need answered. thanks.
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people are trying to that the phones are similar enough where you should focus on the carriers.
yes the front camera can be used for video chat. I personally don't see the big deal behind it but if thats your cup of tea then ok. Judge camera quality for yourself by asking to see pictures taken from each phone.
But really all the differences are slight enough where service and price are the biggest noticable differences.
Zac95 said:
1. My evo got 26 hours of battery life today, before I finally charged it.
2. The sense 3.0 camera takes some absolutely beautiful pictures. I don't really have a good way to rate that, lol
3. Yes
4. Yes
I love my evo. There is a huge and great development community behind it. Which is a huge plus when your looking to root, there's also alot of accesories etc.
Sprint has true 4g that is very easy to turn on off.
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i want to get the EVO 4G on Metro PCS. but i want to make sure that MMS and GPS work on Metro PCS. but importantly, i got to make sure that a custom ROM for it can enhance batt life. all this with sense 3.0.
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To those comparing 4G of Sprint and AT&T...
Aren't they both NOT true 4G? The carriers are just marketing it as 4G because it's faster than 3G. If I remember correctly, 4G is supposed to be between 100mb/s and 1gb/s. The technologies we see right now are considered pre-4g, since they only get up to 144mb/s (144 for WiMAX, 100 for LTE) I'm taking this from the 4G wiki page: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/4G
And yes I know AT&T isn't on either yet... they use HSPA+ which shouldn't even be considered 4G at all lol
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Wimax is true 4g, and heavily out powers hsdpa+
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xlk said:
i want to get the EVO 4G on Metro PCS. but i want to make sure that MMS and GPS work on Metro PCS. but importantly, i got to make sure that a custom ROM for it can enhance batt life. all this with sense 3.0.
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Sense 3.0 would eat either phones battery given their not built for it.
Aosp roms get the good battery
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