I tried contacting Cyanogen via Twitter, but he never responded. I know that the Galaxy S is listed as a supported device for CM6, but I don't know if this includes the Epic.
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I tried contacting Cyanogen via Twitter, but he never responded. I know that the Galaxy S is listed as a supported device for CM6, but I don't know if this includes the Epic.
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Epic is a Galaxy S device..
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Epic is a Galaxy S device..
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Well yes, but it is like the black sheep of the family. I'm pretty sure a CM6 build for the Vibrant/Captivate wouldn't work on the Epic due to the hardware differences.
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Well yes, but it is like the black sheep of the family. I'm pretty sure a CM6 build for the Vibrant/Captivate wouldn't work on the Epic due to the hardware differences.
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The difference chances are would be minor...there is no reason why not to support it...
Reason my guess it will be minor is it would be too much hassle for samsung to create separate firmware just for 1 phone one 1 carrier when they are distributing the phone to so many companies...so chances are it will be 99% the same..
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The difference chances are would be minor...there is no reason why not to support it...
Reason my guess it will be minor is it would be too much hassle for samsung to create separate firmware just for 1 phone one 1 carrier when they are distributing the phone to so many companies...so chances are it will be 99% the same..
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Just because Samsung's ROM is close doesn't mean the AOSP ROM will cleanly transition from one device to another without individual tweaks.
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Just because Samsung's ROM is close doesn't mean the AOSP ROM will cleanly transition from one device to another without individual tweaks.
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Well of course....just by the fact that it has a wimax radio means it will require tweaks...but I'm saying the tweaks will most likely be minor.
I just wanted to make sure the CM team was willing to make those tweaks and support the Epic.
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I just wanted to make sure the CM team was willing to make those tweaks and support the Epic.
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Well using the Vibrant as an example...once it came out one of the devs asked for donations to get the device and work on it....I guess same will happen in this case :/
CM6 will be the deciding factor of whether I get the epic or not.
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CM6 will be the deciding factor of whether I get the epic or not.
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Well then get the epic..duh lol
Same here, especially since I already have a nexus.
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CM6 will be the deciding factor of whether I get the epic or not.
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Same here, especially since I already have a nexus.
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I don't think not having Cyanogen is a dealbreaker.
Cyanogen was what made me love my Nexus, but it doesn't make a phone unlove-able.
As long as there is a good recovery image, optimized kernals, and theme support in the community, I'd be happy.
Then again, if he just made CM6 for the Epic, it would make things alot better.
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I don't think not having Cyanogen is a dealbreaker.
Cyanogen was what made me love my Nexus, but it doesn't make a phone unlove-able.
As long as there is a good recovery image, optimized kernals, and theme support in the community, I'd be happy.
Then again, if he just made CM6 for the Epic, it would make things alot better.
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That is true. I am so anxious to get this phone, I am going to keep my nexus though as my stand alone developer phone and dev android only, it is a headache to dev on my nokia n900 sometimes.
I don't want to have to rely on Samsung for software. I've heard Touchwiz is buggy and slow and Samsung has a bad reputation for pushing out updates. The hardware on the other hand looks absolutely phenomenal and with CM6 loaded on it, it would leave other phones in the dust.
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I don't want to have to rely on Samsung for software. I've heard Touchwiz is buggy and slow and Samsung has a bad reputation for pushing out updates. The hardware on the other hand looks absolutely phenomenal and with CM6 loaded on it, it would leave other phones in the dust.
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especially with some Frozen Yogurt, mmmm. Dont get me wrong, my Nexus is the shyt, but i miss a physical keyboard ever since i retire my Nokia N900 as my daily.
Is there any time frame that we can expect CM6 or stock android froyo roms?
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Is there any time frame that we can expect CM6 or stock android froyo roms?
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We don't even have full Froyo working yet..(specifically the JIT)..things take time...
As for Touchwiz being laggy isn't really true, whats lagging is the crappy RFS partition which is limiting our I/O...thus causing the lag...we have a fix for it but it still needs a bit improvement...
But for this phone chances are Samsung will support it...
Be patient..the Epic isn't even out yet...
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As for Touchwiz being laggy isn't really true, whats lagging is the crappy RFS partition which is limiting our I/O...thus causing the lag...we have a fix for it but it still needs a bit improvement...
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I've been reading a bit about the lag... How bad is it? Like, people mention it, but is it really something to get super upset over?
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I've been reading a bit about the lag... How bad is it? Like, people mention it, but is it really something to get super upset over?
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I can't really speak too much on it, being that I don't own one, but apparently the community fix raises the I/O performance back within the range of the Droid X. I'm not worried at all about it, personally. If Samsung doesn't fix it, the community will
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I don't want to have to rely on Samsung for software. I've heard Touchwiz is buggy and slow and Samsung has a bad reputation for pushing out updates. The hardware on the other hand looks absolutely phenomenal and with CM6 loaded on it, it would leave other phones in the dust.
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I've been reading a bit about the lag... How bad is it? Like, people mention it, but is it really something to get super upset over?
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Touchwiz is blazing fast for my on my moment.
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Most of our devs are gone. They've run off to the Evo portal and ebayed their Heroes. In turn, people bought their Heroes on Ebay and we will have a flood of noobs coming. We probably won't have a rom update from a major dev ever again, and... it makes me feel empty inside.
Darch is still here, Regaw is still here. Not sure who else is.
Toast and flipz have said hero dev will continue, just slow. I think jschi didn't jump ship either. And he is a genius
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and this surprises you? Heck, if I had the money, or control over my gf's accounts, I would have opened a new line and gotten the Evo right away as well
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and this surprises you? Heck, if I had the money, or control over my gf's accounts, I would have opened a new line and gotten the Evo right away as well
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It doesn't surprise me, it just... makes me sad.
When I saw Damage's new update, my heart skipped a beat..=(
But there is no hate at all towards those who went to the Evo.
I mean, they were doing it for free, so we can't really get mad lol.
But to answer, yes, I feel slightly empty.
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When I saw Damage's new update, my heart skipped a beat..=(
But there is no hate at all towards those who went to the Evo.
I mean, they were doing it for free, so we can't really get mad lol.
But to answer, yes, I feel slightly empty.
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No, I'm not mad at them either. It just makes me sad.
Heh. Look at the bright side: now other people can take over the reigns; and trust me, some people here are more than capable at doing so.
Don't feel empty, but I am a little upset with HTC. They've pretty much made us dependent on the developers here. I would be fine with stock roms, but it's pretty clear that HTC is pretty much done supporting the Hero. 2.1 is it and the update comes with its own issues that weren't in 1.5.
I got an Android phone with the assumption that it would be supported with the latest updates at a faster pace and for much longer than what I'm seeing by HTC. It makes it pointless to ever do another contract if I'm going to be stuck with a phone that won't get regular updates from the manufacturer. I'm not sure if I would get another HTC phone. I hope Sprint gets the Nexus One.
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Don't feel empty, but I am a little upset with HTC. They've pretty much made us dependent on the developers here. I would be fine with stock roms, but it's pretty clear that HTC is pretty much done supporting the Hero. 2.1 is it and the update comes with its own issues that weren't in 1.5.
I got an Android phone with the assumption that it would be supported with the latest updates at a faster pace and for much longer than what I'm seeing by HTC. It makes it pointless to ever do another contract if I'm going to be stuck with a phone that won't get regular updates from the manufacturer. I'm not sure if I would get another HTC phone. I hope Sprint gets the Nexus One.
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It won't. They pulled a Verizon and told us to buy the Evo. Plus, the Nexus is an HTC phone
cheer up
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It doesn't surprise me, it just... makes me sad.
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No, I'm not mad at them either. It just makes me sad.
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there is nothing to cry about. the fact remains that the hero is a great platform for dev. myself and others are still quite happy with this phone and will stick with until our contracts are up.
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Heh. Look at the bright side: now other people can take over the reigns; and trust me, some people here are more than capable at doing so.
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^ this and i am thinking that devs from other areas will step into heros now that they can pick them up much cheaper than before the evo was released. look at some of the older phones, they are still going strong in the dev department.
i am not worried even if i end up with 'just' darchdriod as my daily rom for the rest of my contract (another 6 months or so).
cheers... or rather cheer up!
ryan
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there is nothing to cry about. the fact remains that the hero is a great platform for dev. myself and others are still quite happy with this phone and will stick with until our contracts are up.
^ this and i am thinking that devs from other areas will step into heros now that they can pick them up much cheaper than before the evo was released. look at some of the older phones, they are still going strong in the dev department.
i am not worried even if i end up with 'just' darchdriod as my daily rom for the rest of my contract (another 6 months or so).
cheers... or rather cheer up!
ryan
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I'm not that sad... lol. I am, however, sweltering, tired, and need to turn my AC on. Darchdroid is the best OC rom out there, and RegawMOD is the best NON-OC rom out there, so I think we are pretty good in the dev side of things.
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It won't. They pulled a Verizon and told us to buy the Evo. Plus, the Nexus is an HTC phone
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That sucks. I forgot the Nexus was an HTC phone, but I was mostly referring to getting phones that don't have Sense. They usually are updated much faster.
I feel like an unwanted stepchild now.
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I feel like an unwanted stepchild now.
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The Hero is sort of the unwanted stepchild of XDA now. But, all the first-time Ebay adopters are coming to our "rescue".
I cant do what flipz, damage and darch do. Just naming top 3 roms.
But i can put things together and fix broken things. Ill be stuck with my hero for quite some time. So im always willing to collaborate with others to get something working.
Also im sure we could ask a few questions here and there to the main devs for advice and help. No matter what phone they currently use.
I think we have almost everything we can think of, OC, roms, JIT, themes etc.. I think that covers all the big breakthroughs for are hardware restricted phones. But we can always improve on them, many here are capable. So yeah it sucks these big names left but im honestly not worried about the future of the CDMA hero.
Save up and buy an evo.
This is just how the phone loop rolls, once theres something better , you don't go back.
I will be keeping my hero, but yeah look at it this way , XDA devs are not the only ones dumping the phone , so is sprint.
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Most of our devs are gone. They've run off to the Evo portal and ebayed their Heroes. In turn, people bought their Heroes on Ebay and we will have a flood of noobs coming. We probably won't have a rom update from a major dev ever again, and... it makes me feel empty inside.
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I don't know why the EVO still does not have full root that can support custom recovery without a computer and since it doesn't have full permissions you can't pull stock apk's and wifi tether does not work. So you can be happy that you have a fully customizable phone for now.
Most of our devs are gone. They've run off to the Evo portal and ebayed their Heroes. In turn, people bought their Heroes on Ebay and we will have a f
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I don't know why the EVO still does not have full root that can support custom recovery without a computer and since it doesn't have full permissions you can't pull stock apk's and wifi tether does not work. So you can be happy that you have a fully customizable phone for now.
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It does have "full root" but the storage has nand locked/protected. It's like that little switch on and SD card or floppy to protect it only its software not hardware theyll break it in a week or two. You can pull apks in recovery... and WiFi tether needs a netfilter kernel so give em a week and it will work.
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I cant do what flipz, damage and darch do. Just naming top 3 roms.
But i can put things together and fix broken things. Ill be stuck with my hero for quite some time. So im always willing to collaborate with others to get something working.
Also im sure we could ask a few questions here and there to the main devs for advice and help. No matter what phone they currently use.
I think we have almost everything we can think of, OC, roms, JIT, themes etc.. I think that covers all the big breakthroughs for are hardware restricted phones. But we can always improve on them, many here are capable. So yeah it sucks these big names left but im honestly not worried about the future of the CDMA hero.
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Well Regaw should be back at it soon and with you here it should all be ok anyways.
Cyanogen 6.1?
http://www.cyanogenmod.com/home/cyanogenmod-6-0-status-update
Wow that quadrant score looks AMAZING.
He admitted he hacked/screwed the quadrant score to make it retardedly good.
Yeah, I really hoped it would be faster, but I think Wes Garner is surfing through till the 2.2 Update is live this next month then theyll throw in a new kernel and tweak it and call it CM.
I think the ETA is 1.5 months on a CM6 Rom for Vibrant, hope Im wrong, but thats my theory.
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He admitted he hacked/screwed the quadrant score to make it retardedly good.
Yeah, I really hoped it would be faster, but I think Wes Garner is surfing through till the 2.2 Update is live this next month then theyll throw in a new kernel and tweak it and call it CM.
I think the ETA is 1.5 months on a CM6 Rom for Vibrant, hope Im wrong, but thats my theory.
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Uhm. you know CM is always compiled based off AOSP right? CM for Vibrant wouldn't be compiled based off Samsung's TouchWiz. And according to JAC
# CM6-ALPHA compiled for vibrant. going to make OTA package and test in the morning. about 22 hours ago via web
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And where did you see this that he "hacked the quadrant score to make it look good." I don't get why anybody would do that, especially Cyanogen.
And where did you see this that he "hacked the quadrant score to make it look good." I don't get why anybody would do that, especially Cyanogen.
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http://twitter.com/cyanogen/status/21314856782
He did it to show that Quadrant scores can be hacked
heatfan said:
http://twitter.com/cyanogen/status/21314856782
He did it to show that Quadrant scores can be hacked
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Oh I see. A lot of the CM6 for vibrant stuff are on Github so I don't know about him waiting for Samsung to push 2.2
here it comes
I have been trying to be patient, but with Google's new voice actions only working with froyo I really can't wait to get our CM6 on to see how it works. Here's hoping its sooner rather than later.
Halieus said:
I have been trying to be patient, but with Google's new voice actions only working with froyo I really can't wait to get our CM6 on to see how it works. Here's hoping its sooner rather than later.
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Grab Vlingo its pretty close to the same thing. Of course its not the samething, but you get pretty good results and it does perform ths same actions.
I hope it's coming soon.... there's too much lag on my vibrant for a 1ghz processor
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I hope it's coming soon.... there's too much lag on my vibrant for a 1ghz processor
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The lag is because of crappy hardware (slow flash) and crappy proprietary filesystem (samsung's rfs). Neither of these things are likely to change in CM..
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The lag is because of crappy hardware (slow flash) and crappy proprietary filesystem (samsung's rfs). Neither of these things are likely to change in CM..
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Ah, I see, that's unfortunate. In other words the only solution to this problem is a Samsung Firmware update?
SeanFloyd said:
I hope it's coming soon.... there's too much lag on my vibrant for a 1ghz processor
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apply RyanZA's lagfix on dev forums....?
Disconn3ct said:
The lag is because of crappy hardware (slow flash) and crappy proprietary filesystem (samsung's rfs). Neither of these things are likely to change in CM..
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Lag isn't from crappy hardware lol its crappy software I.e. touch wiz
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apply RyanZA's lagfix on dev forums....?
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No bro, I saw some people were having some serious problems as a byproduct of that fix so I assumed it was wise to wait.
SeanFloyd said:
No bro, I saw some people were having some serious problems as a byproduct of that fix so I assumed it was wise to wait.
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I have been using it about 2 weeks and havent had ANY issues.
acjames said:
I have been using it about 2 weeks and havent had ANY issues.
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I've had no problems either.
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No bro, I saw some people were having some serious problems as a byproduct of that fix so I assumed it was wise to wait.
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No problems either.. the method for applying it isn't even difficult, try it yourself and you'll be impressed. And im not your "bro."
Work on the vibrant will pick up, Wes was working hard with Cyanogen on the final things to get the Slide CM6 build operational. Now its pretty much complete he can put some time on the Vibrant build.
Eugene & Barak's work on the AOSP 2.1 is coming along nicely as well, once its complete I assume (I am no dev) 2.2 AOSP will be pretty easy to build (once everything works in 2.1).
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Lag isn't from crappy hardware lol its crappy software I.e. touch wiz
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That'd be my guess as well. Launcher pro plus and the lag fix has made this feel like a much different phone. Touch wiz is basura.
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No problems either.. the method for applying it isn't even difficult, try it yourself and you'll be impressed. And im not your "bro."
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Holy irritable shrieking vagface, relax. No need to get panties/pantaloons twisted. My concern wasn't related to user difficulty in installing the fix. When I scanned the thread I noticed it wasn't universally working so I decided to wait. I appreciate your incredibly precious time and valuable insight
Ok so ive had the the fascinate for a few days now. Besides the Viual Voicemail not working properlly, Data problems, The super laggy performance with touchwiz. The problem with the market place saying RETRY over and over....
Time to return it and wait for the palm pre 2. I am hugely disapointed. I love the look and feel of the phone and screen and the hardware capabilities....but damn the OS is garbage!!!!
BTW I dont mind Bing
I agree. The Fascinate seems to be a great phone hardware-wise, but there seems to be a few software shortcomings with the phone.
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Ok so ive had the the fascinate for a few days now. Besides the Viual Voicemail not working properlly, Data problems, The super laggy performance with touchwiz. The problem with the market place saying RETRY over and over....
Time to return it and wait for the palm pre 2. I am hugely disapointed. I love the look and feel of the phone and screen and the hardware capabilities....but damn the OS is garbage!!!!
BTW I dont mind Bing
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you've been here long enough to know that these issues will be resolved before long. the os is not garbage but touchwiz IS. Why not root and put on a clean rom without all the crapware?
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you've been here long enough to know that these issues will be resolved before long. the os is not garbage but touchwiz IS. Why not root and put on a clean rom without all the crapware?
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100% agree.
but do we have clean ROM yet?
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100% agree.
but do we have clean ROM yet?
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Honestly? Sheesh, the phone has only been out less than a week, and you're expecting custom ROMs? Patience.
As for the issues, the standard treatment as of now is to root, remove crapware, including Bing and VZ apps, and install the lag fix, which creates a virtual ext2 partition for your app data that gives you warp-speed performance. Oh, and don't forget to install LauncherPro as well. Check the development forum for all the info on these procedures.
I had issues with the network timeouts too at first, but haven't noticed it quite as much lately. Dunno, maybe it will come and go. Hopefully it's a software bug that will be fixed in Froyo. Given the fact that I've seen it happen both on 3G and WiFi, I'm willing to bet it is a software issue.
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Honestly? Sheesh, the phone has only been out less than a week, and you're expecting custom ROMs? Patience.
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Yes, honestly. I don't expect custom ROMs but the poster said
martyotaku said:
the os is not garbage but touchwiz IS
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And I agree with that.
He further opined
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Why not root and put on a clean rom without all the crapware?
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And I also agree with that, but do we have a custom ROM? I dont expect that we do, its pretty early as you say. But if we do...
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100% agree.
but do we have clean ROM yet?
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Yes.
But I don't see why it's needed. The phone performs better than any other phone on the market even using TouchWiz.
I removed all the preinstalled software and replaced TouchWiz with ADW.Launcher. So I essentially have a vanilla 2.1 OS. Took all of 30 minutes to go from opening the box to a vanilla OS.
You buy this phone for the hardware, not the software. Getting this thing 100% will take some work, and can be somewhat advanced, but for most of us getting there is the fun part. That's why Android and open source is great in the first place.
If you just want a shiny toy that has apps and makes calls, go buy an iPhone.
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You buy this phone for the hardware, not the software. Getting this thing 100% will take some work, and can be somewhat advanced, but for most of us getting there is the fun part. That's why Android and open source is great in the first place.
If you just want a shiny toy that has apps and makes calls, go buy an iPhone.
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Wow!!!!!!
There are some seriously impatient folks here. I've tried all the Galaxy S phones, both recent droids, and the EVO and Iphone4. In my opinion they are all within a 10% band of difference with the EVO at the bottom and the Galaxy S's and iphone4 at the top. I would still be happy with any of these phones and in the end, I'd customize it to be better than any of the other stock phones. Any customized ROM phone of these would be better than any stock. I've seen some EVO's with Cyno ROM's that make any of the stock Galaxy S ROMS look lacking. If you are on the network you like, stay with a Galaxy, it's the best hardware. Wait for the software.
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Yes.
But I don't see why it's needed. The phone performs better than any other phone on the market even using TouchWiz.
I removed all the preinstalled software and replaced TouchWiz with ADW.Launcher. So I essentially have a vanilla 2.1 OS. Took all of 30 minutes to go from opening the box to a vanilla OS.
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True, but I also want 2.2, so again, waiting (patiently) for the custom ROMs
I think most of you missed the OP's statement at the bottom of his post. "I'll just wait for the Palm Pre."
I don't care how many shortcomings the Fascinate has, in my opinion I haven't had any problems with my phone but I haven't used TouchWhiz at all, but there's no way I would consider Palm a superior operating system over Android.
Google has a free appxs that replace all of Verizon's software, ie google voice instead of visual voicemail.
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Wow, just wow.
I was just cruisin thru checking to see what people are thinking of the Fascinate itteration of the Galaxy S.
I have a Vibrant on T-Mo and have a buddy getting a Fascinate today (hence my curiousity).
If you don't like Touch Wiz, download Home++ from the market, or Samsungs CarHome and DeskHome....blam, fresh face on the OS.
Root it....plain and simple, you'll have to sooner or later, so do it now.
For the lackskillzorz type (heh) there is even a one click root with a one click lag fix.
Check the Vibrant threads on this forum, we've had the phone longer so have had a chance to make the aquaintance just a bit more formal :รพ
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Yes.
But I don't see why it's needed. The phone performs better than any other phone on the market even using TouchWiz.
I removed all the preinstalled software and replaced TouchWiz with ADW.Launcher. So I essentially have a vanilla 2.1 OS. Took all of 30 minutes to go from opening the box to a vanilla OS.
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Ehh... I think my old Incredible performed just as well as my new Fascinate. Though after being rooted, lag fix and Launcher Pro installed it is fairly quick.
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Ehh... I think my old Incredible performed just as well as my new Fascinate. Though after being rooted, lag fix and Launcher Pro installed it is fairly quick.
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You are aware of the superior hardware here I assume?
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Palm pre's WebOS is absolutely amazing. I would still be using it if it had better hardware. I believe that webOS beats android and iOS. What its lacking is dev support tho. But you want talk about open source, webos is a prime example. (preware) tweak your whole phone from the kernal to clock time without needing root or jailbreak. And funny thing is palm/hp supports the devs. I can understand if he wants to jump ship, he'll just come back anyways. Like I said hardly any dev support. But what he'll gain in the process is the knowledge and understanding of another mobile os and will have a more definite feel to which is better. And personal experience beats a review any day. So go for it man, I don't have a phone for more then 2 weeks, since I work at verizon I can get any phone I want and use it in the intent of keeping it. But the point is my fascinate might just be they phone that will break the 2 week shelf life for me. Your in a good phone. Warranty it out if your having issues.
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I'm kind of on the go right now but just saw that they're playing with Touchwiz 2.2.1 and theyre saying samsung altered the kernel, and although still rfs, it's flying! don't know how or where whatever they installed came from but just read that.
So Samsung made touchwiz faster did they update the interface?
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So Samsung made touchwiz faster did they update the interface?
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Like I said, I'm repeating the little I read and not adding any rumors too it. They are both saying 3-4x faster, fixing the IO problem before and showing 1255 quadrant bone stock, just rooted. Also thought I saw a mention of a POSSIBLE upload tonight.
I thought I remember reading that 2.2.1 ditches RFS for something else.
I'm Pretty certain their talking about android 2.2.1.
Sounds like changes to I/o for faster Vibrant's too.
Theyre saying touchwiz 2.2.1 which yeah it's just android 2.2.1 and just the corresponding touchwiz that skins it. And no, still RFS, they must be pretty firm on that, but they have optimized it, like I said 3-4x faster theyre saying it feels like. I'd like to think these guys have tried enough ROMs on their vibrants to know what 3-4x faster feels like, so I'm pretty confident this is great news.
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Theyre saying touchwiz 2.2.1 which yeah it's just android 2.2.1 and just the corresponding touchwiz that skins it. And no, still RFS, they must be pretty firm on that, but they have optimized it, like I said 3-4x faster theyre saying it feels like. I'd like to think these guys have tried enough ROMs on their vibrants to know what 3-4x faster feels like, so I'm pretty confident this is great news.
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UBIRFS is the new filesystem lol i odined the i9000 leak to play with and it is indeed amazing. cant wait for a hopefully soon tmo leak of it.
jumaaneface said:
UBIRFS is the new filesystem lol i odined the i9000 leak to play with and it is indeed amazing. cant wait for a hopefully soon tmo leak of it.
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Nice. Other then the obvious things that wouldn't work, like button mapping and such, hows it's stability?
From Eugene's twitpic, he would seem to have acquired a 2.2.1 JL4 build with a baseband of JL1 still.
so does this mean they got a new leak of a rom, or kernel?
kboater said:
so does this mean they got a new leak of a rom, or kernel?
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Yes. That must mean I wasn't clear enough in my post (#9) just before yours.
epakrat75 said:
Yes. That must mean I wasn't clear enough in my post (#9) just before yours.
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thanks, did not see that before i posted
so are leaks like this (or previous 2.2 leaks also) leaked from samsung or tmobile? I know we have all been blaming samsung for the delay in releasing 2.2 to us, so im wondering if samsung has released it to tmobile?
Basically, who is holding us up on the official update, Samsung or Tmobile? (or in other words, who to blame?)
either way, these developers are amazing. i would have thrown my phone in the toilet if it we not for the developers here at xda
looks like they are making some good progress
I think they just need to release whatever they have and stop teasing/hoarding it. This is supposed to be a community. It's actually quite ridiculous.
kangxi said:
I think they just need to release whatever they have and stop teasing/hoarding it. This is supposed to be a community. It's actually quite ridiculous.
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The leak is here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=865701
They're not hoarding or teasing, its not for the vibrant so it probably needs some massaging to get it fully working.
dcontrol said:
The leak is here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=865701
They're not hoarding or teasing, its not for the vibrant so it probably needs some massaging to get it fully working.
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Actually this is NOT what eugene and barak are tweeting about. They are tweeting about JL4 for the Vibrant. As to where they got this leak, well eugene has been able to get hold of leaks before so this isn't really a surprise.
As to the charges of hoarding or teasing, I don't recall eugene or barak ever owing me anything or anyone holding a gun to my head to follow their tweets.
Looking forward to seeing this in firmware myself, and I'm sure we all will have the opportunity soon.
Ya here is a shot of it
http://twitpic.com/3efir7
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Of course they don't owe use anything. But that's like someone discovering new firmware and choosing to talk about it rather than let everyone have a go at it. Wait, that's exactly what it is. No one else seems to have a problem with posting any new leaked firmware as soon as they discover them so why is this different?. The sooner it is posted, the sooner other devs can begin developing. That's the whole point of a community. Even if it is buggy I'm sure other devs are willing to sort it out for their releases.
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Of course they don't owe use anything. But that's like someone discovering new firmware and choosing to talk about it rather than let everyone have a go at it. Wait, that's exactly what it is. No one else seems to have a problem with posting any new leaked firmware as soon as they discover them so why is this different?. The sooner it is posted, the sooner other devs can begin developing. That's the whole point of a community. Even if it is buggy I'm sure other devs are willing to sort it out for their releases.
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They already released their source.. what has been done with that? Just because someone has something others don't,releasing it to the community guarantee's nothing. Eugene and Barak do plenty for this community, even when they are being harassed about it which is not cool.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1356228
That was fast...
I totally love my N1, but I feel kinda jealousy of them.
The Nexus S is also getting official support from Google.
ICS development for the N1 is in full swing. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1348670
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The Nexus S is also getting official support from Google.
ICS development for the N1 is in full swing. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1348670
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Yeah, I actually knew about that post.
I overheard that google tried to port ICS on N1 but failed due to low Nand space.
Hope they release some driver sources or whatever for N1, at least it will help Devs work on unofficial port....
Signfang said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1356228
That was fast...
I totally love my N1, but I feel kinda jealousy of them.
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ICS has been running on the Nexus S for months now. Why an employee at Google doesn't release it remains a mystery to me...
chromiumcloud said:
ICS has been running on the Nexus S for months now. Why an employee at Google doesn't release it remains a mystery to me...
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They probably like having their job?
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I overheard that google tried to port ICS on N1 but failed due to low Nand space.
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Were that the case, there would be no way this ran on the G1
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Were that the case, there would be no way this ran on the G1
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Somehow I can't believe that is the reason. I mean, people are already installing ICS on the N1 from AOSP, without even needing blackrose custom partitions like Sense ports need.
I think people don't want to admit that Google is doing the same thing that Apple does with older hardware. They make it "obsolete" so you're tempted to upgrade. I mean, maybe the G1 is a bit of an extreme case, but not so for the N1.