Does anyone know why the Desire got the froyo update first when the Legend actually came out earlier than them?
Because Desire is HTC's flagship, top of the line, finest product would be my guess.
And I don't how heavy 2.2 is to run but Desire comes with the 1GHz Snapdragon CPU and will run a less fine-tuned OS better than the Legend (this is also a wild guess)..
Edit: another reason is the N1, with almoast the same specs as the desire meaning its easyer for htc engineers to modify it for desire.
will the legend ever get the update ?
I sent a question to HTC yesterday, asking when we can expect the update on the legend... This was their answer:
"Android 2.2 (Froyo) update is sent out to customers in waves. This is done so we don’t overload our system. And because of this it may take longer for some of our customers to get it. You can try searching for it by typing the following: Settings -> about phone -> updating systems software -> Search now"
Not sure if she misunderstood me, I specified that I've got a Legend, but I would guess the response could be interpreted as if she thought I've got a Desire. I dunno. I just want the update.
mathias.lithen said:
Because Desire is HTC's flagship, top of the line, finest product would be my guess.
And I don't how heavy 2.2 is to run but Desire comes with the 1GHz Snapdragon CPU and will run a less fine-tuned OS better than the Legend (this is also a wild guess)..
Edit: another reason is the N1, with almoast the same specs as the desire meaning its easyer for htc engineers to modify it for desire.
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even the EVO got the froyo update ... so i dont think thats the reason ... its probably cause the Desire has a larger user community then the Legend ..
I'm pretty sure we'll get it but we will have to wait until all other phones made in 2010 get it.
Because the Legend has the smallest community.
That's just simply what HTC needs to do, satisfy as much people as fast as possible.
So after all EVO users got there updates it's probably going to be the wildfire who's next and then probably us.
The legend hasn't specifically been named, but they have said that all android devices made in 2010 will get the update in Q3. So the legend will get it, just be patient.
Are you serious that even the Wildfire will get the update earlier than us? This must be the biggest joke ever.
So HTC's strategy is to get the more popular phones updated first and place the less popular ones below?
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Are you serious that even the Wildfire will get the update earlier than us? This must be the biggest joke ever.
So HTC's strategy is to get the more popular phones updated first and place the less popular ones below?
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Who told u wildfire got it?
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I'm pretty sure we'll get it but we will have to wait until all other phones made in 2010 get it.
Because the Legend has the smallest community.
That's just simply what HTC needs to do, satisfy as much people as fast as possible.
So after all EVO users got there updates it's probably going to be the wildfire who's next and then probably us.
The legend hasn't specifically been named, but they have said that all android devices made in 2010 will get the update in Q3. So the legend will get it, just be patient.
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I dont think the Wildfire will get it before the Legend. The Wildfire is a mass-market low-end device unlike the Legend.
I think the delay is due to addition of new features like Live Wallpapers, as Froyo gives a supposed 450% performance boost that coupled with the same graphics chip as the Nexus One and the Desire should give the Legend a lot of processing power.
I agree. The Wildfire will probably get it before the Legend.
But the Legend will get it before Q4 afaik. Since HTC said all their 2010 devices would.
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think on the bright side .. HTC trying to integrate live wallpaper into froyo 2.2 for legend user that why it take so long..
who said wildfire community is bigger than the legend .. i don't think so ...
Are you sure that Legend is getting live wallpapers? Where did you hear that?
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who said wildfire community is bigger than the legend .. i don't think so ...
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I just suppose it is, it is much more price friendly therefore much more in the price tag that most people are looking for.
jonas :
yea right , but still the extra money offers better specifcations and many also will think put the extra money for extra quality ..
but anyway wildfire first or the legend it dosen't matter but the most important thing that they should not forget the legend ..
Its probably easier for HTC to update the Wildfire because of its lower hardware specs.
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Its probably easier for HTC to update the Wildfire because of its lower hardware specs.
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Yea, probably not.
But no one can know which gets it first.
And if the Wildfire gets FroYo first. It's probably because it's newer. But as said before. All 2010 HTC devices will have FroYo before Q4.
Hopefully.. Never know with HTC.
if the wildfire gets the update i will have no doubt that the legend will get it because of the similir specifcations and hardware ...
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I've just been reading a review of the HTC Wildfire which is HTCs new budget android device... they seem to think its a lot better than the Tattoo. The specs though are very similar except it has a bit more RAM and a decent camera.
http://www.itpro.co.uk/624604/htc-wildfire-review/4
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTC_Tattoo
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTC_Wildfire
Anyway, I thought it was an interesting comparison and shows what the Tattoo can still do especially as the chipsets are the same. I hope with a Froyo release for the Tattoo it can show its potential!
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I've just been reading a review of the HTC Wildfire which is HTCs new budget android device... they seem to think its a lot better than the Tattoo. The specs though are very similar except it has a bit more RAM and a decent camera.
http://www.itpro.co.uk/624604/htc-wildfire-review/4
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTC_Tattoo
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTC_Wildfire
Anyway, I thought it was an interesting comparison and shows what the Tattoo can still do especially as the chipsets are the same. I hope with a Froyo release for the Tattoo it can show its potential!
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wildfire has a capacitive touchscreen --> multitouch
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wildfire has a capacitive touchscreen --> multitouch
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Apart from being able to pinch zoom who cares? And with a 3.2 inch screen anyway I don't think its the going to be beating an iPhone for web browsing just because it has multi touch lol. My point is that the Tattoo can be brought up to the same level with a complete 2.1/2.2 update.
Maybe that "bit more RAM" is necessary to have 2.1 and sense working fine.
But i'm not sure
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Apart from being able to pinch zoom who cares? And with a 3.2 inch screen anyway I don't think its the going to be beating an iPhone for web browsing just because it has multi touch lol. My point is that the Tattoo can be brought up to the same level with a complete 2.1/2.2 update.
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yes but in my opinion it won't arrive!
instead htc assured froyo for device from genuary 2010 excluding tattoo that exited on november/december 2009 -.-
i'm not talking about hardware that is almost the same but the support won't be the same for these devices...
do not forget wildfire start with a 2.1 upgradeable to 2.2
and the cost is almost the same for both devices...
Not from HTC it won't... but the development team here are almost there anyway so hopefully a fully working ROM will be here soon without the need for HTC!
And I think you're missing my point. Im just saying that the new device is basically the same as the Tattoo. Im not saying sombody should go out now and buy a Tattoo, that would be stupid lol.
HTC Wildfire is what the Tattoo should have been.
I'm not convinced in upgrading to the Wildfire just to replace my dying Tattoo.
People, I'm quite sure that HTC won't update Wildfire to 2.2. They will just leave it behind like they left behind the Tattoo! They clearly said that they will update most of the phones released in 2010...I don't know, but I sense that the wildfire users will be as disappointed as we were when they said that 2.1 isn't going to come for our tattoos...
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People, I'm quite sure that HTC won't update Wildfire to 2.2. They will just leave it behind like they left behind the Tattoo! They clearly said that they will update most of the phones released in 2010...I don't know, but I sense that the wildfire users will be as disappointed as we were when they said that 2.1 isn't going to come for our tattoos...
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Ditto. HTC just likes to put phones out there that they can't support, you buy it, you have to put up with it if it breaks. Makes me angry.
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Coburn64 said:
HTC Wildfire is what the Tattoo should have been.
I'm not convinced in upgrading to the Wildfire just to replace my dying Tattoo.
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I couldn't say that any better. 100% agree. I think there are basicly two type of needs/users.
One is what I call the "leisure" user (that could be myself on week ends) who wants a ample web browsing, full multimedia, multiple messaging (SMS's and chat), gaming, and so on. For these users, iPhone 3g/3gs/4, Nexus One, or alike any of both is the choice.
Another one is my so called "working" user (myself monday to friday), when your needs are mostly email (mostly exchange and push), quick browsing, mapping or navigation, shopping lists, to do lists, calendars, reminders, transportation routing or schedule querying, not too ambicious web browsing, some music/sudokuing is well appreciated. For this use, Tattoo-like->Wildfire is simply perfect: does it all, with no excess luggage (weight/size).
I don't know if I should say pitty or shame on HTC for releasing a device that in a very few months will be improved to the obsolecense point. We all know that in consumer technology you will never catch up with the very best, but HTC guys, we should be happy at least for one year. Is it to ask for too much? Did they invent the "decent camera" last week so it is just now that you could include it in your phones, or couldn't you do that on the Tattoo? And cant't you upgrade to 2.1 or 2.2? You HTC want to tell us that you can't do what some cooks on XDA have already done? I am certain that these guys are very well prepared, qualified and smart, no doubt on it, but what they do is some kind of hobby on their spare time, and they are charging not a cent!
Well, my hope like many others, is on these magnificent guys cooking new ROMs for all of us (hopefully we will have a 2.1 or 2.2 fully functional), and as some other dudes already have expressed, Tattoo might well be my last HTC device.
I think tattoo is lack of screen resolution and size of the screen other than it's good if you just work around with roms and install market patched hopefully soon we will have 2.2 or 2.1 fully working custom Roms with market patched and it will be really cool
But htc should do something about tattoo they can't just leave tattoo in blank
don't think on buying a wildfire. haven't you got enough with Tattoo? save some more money and buy a nexus one or an iphone, they are truly speedy and better quality
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Ditto. HTC just likes to put phones out there that they can't support, you buy it, you have to put up with it if it breaks. Makes me angry.
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HTC Officially released Android froyo (2.2) update for wildfire in europe. Just check below link,
http://www.htc.com/europe/support.aspx?type=Others
Soon to india.. wait.
I bought HTC Legend because it has the same features with HTC Desire but I like more Legend's design. I think is the best looking HTC mobile phone.
But I start getting pissed off with the updates and support from HTC. They are only talking about Desire, all discussions are about Desire, they do everything to satisfy Desire owners but not any word about Legend. Will there be a Froyo update for us? It is already available for Desire and N1 but no idea and no info from HTC about Legend. HTC gives updates for every other phone but nothing for Legend. They say nothing about it. They act as if the HTC Legend does not exist.
Today I sent a mail to HTC asking (again) if there are any news about Froyo. If I get a canned response (like "we will look into this and maybe you could some time have a response") and they don't give precise information, I will sell my HTC Legend and get Desire.
The most significant reason I need Froyo is the ability to install apps to SD card. When I had the iPhone I had lots of games and applications installed and never worried about the memory. Now everytime I install an app I have to check the available memory. And of course no chance to install games that take 20 and 30 MB of space, it is just impossible. I don't want to get back to iPhone, I like Android more (more features, customization, stability, faster, better multitasking) but maybe I will say goodbye to Legend and buy another Android phone if HTC continues ignoring us.
Yeah it is a bit of a pain I wish they'd just tell us what's going on
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It is annoying
Everytime i send them a message asking them if we will ever get froyo,all they can say is 'we're sorry we can not let any information out at the moment' and i don't know what bs more so i'm not even gonna bother messaging them again cause all they do is piss me off!-.-!
Just yes or no!
ARGHHH.
I love my Legend..and i don't wanna be forced selling it to buy a Desire just because HTC cares about them & not us..
i don't know why they're not telling us the truth , we just want to know if the update is coming or not ..
They said already that its coming. Even that HTC Manager in the Netherlands (who owns a Legend himself) mentioned it in his Twitter message.
Be patient guys, we will be getting it sooner or later. ;-)
Hope we don't have to wait as long as the Hero owners... I had a Hero myself and got really tired of waiting cuz HTC was delaying the Eclair update for more than 6 months. The Desire is their flagship in this regard and Hero/Legend devices are just some phones which need to be updated eventually after the dev work for the 'good' phone is done. I hope froyo will be out in the next two months, but I wouldn't be surprised to celebrate new year still on 2.1 :/
recently I contacted the HTC customer care regarding the same issue. They sound positive in updating the Legend, sooner or later. We should be patient. Here is there reply:
"Thank you for contacting our Customer Support Center With regards to your inquiry, We are working closely with Google and our other partners to ensure we have the earliest access to everything we need to provide a complete and solid Sense experience on FROYO. We expect to release all updates in the second half of this year but can't be more specific yet."
One more thing, I recently heard that they have rolled back the update for desire due to some technical faults, people reported of some WIFI issues. Therefore, I think when we get the update it will be bug-free, not completely though.
chuchu777 said:
recently I contacted the HTC customer care regarding the same issue. They sound positive in updating the Legend, sooner or later. We should be patient. Here is there reply:
"Thank you for contacting our Customer Support Center With regards to your inquiry, We are working closely with Google and our other partners to ensure we have the earliest access to everything we need to provide a complete and solid Sense experience on FROYO. We expect to release all updates in the second half of this year but can't be more specific yet."
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Great news! Thx for shareing this info.
Hmm.. why don't you just Root your legend and use a froyo rom ?? I'm running a 2.2 legend atm lol
As HTC have said. ALL 2010 HTC devices will have FroYo within Q4.
If you want apps on SD all you have to do is root and install a custom rom that is using A2SD..(apps to SD) I'm running my own rev 3 Rom with apps on SD..
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Hello.
HTC promised upgrade to Froyo for Legend before the end of October, but it is now November and still no update.
On Italian Android Forum, owners of this phone are rightly angry, and decided to protest strongly on the htc facebook page. So I also invite you to protest, so that the protest is larger and HTC should listen.
The page is
http://www.facebook.com/HTC
You can write what you want, like "Froyo on legend!" or "Htc sucks, we want Froyo!".
Had a quick look at the page and you're right, there do seen to be a fair amount of people shouting for the Legends long overdue FroYo but I'm doubtful how much attention HTC will pay given the phones they've just release and the upcoming handsets.
That said I'll still be adding my name to the list. Otherwise its back to custom ROMs for me
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I do not know if HTC will listen to our messages on his page, write once a day, "We want legend" does not cost anything.
Htc page is now full of messages like that, so we continue to write.
How often does HTC check their Facebook page lol..
Flooding mark moons Twitter account might be more effective ...
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Yeah, you're right. I don't have a twitter account, but if you have it, write on Flooding mark moons Twitter account
owever on the page of htc in English, there are ignoring for now, but on italian page they are angry and have banned all those who wrote
Well at least we are getting noticed by them
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Great work guys, keep up the good work...
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Metallaro said:
Hello.
HTC promised upgrade to Froyo for Legend before the end of October, but it is now November and still no update.
On Italian Android Forum, owners of this phone are rightly angry, and decided to protest strongly on the htc facebook page. So I also invite you to protest, so that the protest is larger and HTC should listen.
The page is
http://www.facebook.com/HTC
You can write what you want, like "Froyo on legend!" or "Htc sucks, we want Froyo!".
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Why does HTC Suck? Because they are ensuring Froyo on Legend is done properly? That's a very strange concept, as those same users will be the first to complain if it arrived broken.
Why does HTC Suck? Because they are ensuring Froyo on Legend is done properly? That's a very strange concept, as those same users will be the first to complain if it arrived broken.
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Yeah, yeah, I do not care what you think.
If you look at the last 20 posts on the bulletin Htc, 15 are messages that ask for froyo on legend
continue like that!
CrazyPeter said:
Why does HTC Suck? Because they are ensuring Froyo on Legend is done properly? That's a very strange concept, as those same users will be the first to complain if it arrived broken.
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They should've ensured this update to be released as sheduled. 3 months passed since desire got 2.2, legend update was sheduled at Q3 those days. September aka Q3 passes, htc says we'll have update by the end of october etc. etc. Seems like they hired some bull to regularly defecate on update's status
What i mean is: it must've arrived months ago, w/o any bugs
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Why does HTC Suck? Because they are ensuring Froyo on Legend is done properly?
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Well, they have ensured that quite swiftly for other phones. How come the Legend is the most difficult?
HTC Lies every day because the Gratia´s port to Legend woks fine, the only issue are the drivers.
i don´t like update delay, but i really hate liars!!!
Okay I'll add my name on the list... let's see....
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Whilst the Froyo update has been promised and HTC seem to be making Legend owners wait some time for it, they are letting themselves down even more by not even fixing the SMS bug problem which deserved an immediate patch as it is a broken feature.
Have a feeling...
I just have a feeling that HTC just wanna grab the opportunity to sell a 'metal' desire phone to the consumers first.
It seems peculiar that as much as HTC claimed low stocks of AMOLED, a sudden black phantom of the legend popped out of nowhere...
hence, it is possible that the legend was delayed because:
a) it will be given HD recording... Possible, but unlikely. I think i've read somewhere that the specs for the camera is similar to the desire. This could be a reason htc wanted to hold back the market for consumers to get a metal desire (and thus earn more instead of a legend)
b) people are craving for metal phones. The Legend sold well. In my country, all exclusive providers sold out the legend. (and it went to sell on 3 major telcos). this might be the reason why HTC wanted people to start picking up the HD and Z version of the desire.
c) they might try the new htc sense on the legend. Who knows? I'm not sure, but i think the gratia has no new sense... (i could be wrong on this).
Whatever it is, the legend was pretty much the litmus test that htc needed before manufacturing metal phones. Reason being was that the original desire DID NOT HAVE a metal casing. Why? The desire is HTC's flagship! And possibly, the legend has been overshadowing the desire quite a bit, and making it more likely that they might just want to put the metal switch to desire before bumping the legend. If the bump the legend now, people might just pick up more legends instead of waiting for the Desire hd and z...
Whatever it is, the desire hd and z has been launched... I expect froyo to come to the legend within a week or 2 after that...
For it to FOTA the legend to froyo before the new desires reaches all corners of the world is VERY UNLIKELY...
I honestly do not believe this.. i recon HTC is just interested in selling more phones and while doing that they devoloped loads on new products and tossed the legends development department staff along with the rest of the desire crew. and now that they are selling well they eventualy will pickup (when time allows) to continue the 2.2 little by little.
Never buy a mid range phone from HTC.
The history repeats. First circus with HTC Hero and now with Legend.
our protests have taken effect and HTC said that the update is imminent.
but they repeatedly said the same thing, and then continue to write.
Holy ****, it worked...
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warriorofice said:
HTC Lies every day because the Gratia´s port to Legend woks fine, the only issue are the drivers.
i don´t like update delay, but i really hate liars!!!
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There is a difference between releasing an update which updates existing OS's and installing a rooted ported OS from scratch. HTC have said they are having trouble with the Market after installing the update, much like the issues the Desire had.
Personally I'm quite happy to wait for a polished product imagine how much more you'd moan if they released it with loads of bugs
I just tried HTC Gratia in a store and have to say, that the offical Froyo on HTC Gratia more fluent and faster is than on HTC Legend. The Legend and Gratia have the same specs, so why?
Android 2.1 and 2.3 is also much faster than the Android 2.2 on our Legend...we may just ask HTC xD
Just flash Blayos Rom, problem solved
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Froyo was not optimized for our Legends in my opinion. Feels like a slapstick effort made to silence everyone demanding the update. I think HTC will provide another system update(Froyo) ironing out all the bugs.
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Froyo was not optimized for our Legends in my opinion. Feels like a slapstick effort made to silence everyone demanding the update. I think HTC will provide another system update(Froyo) ironing out all the bugs.
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i don't think so
they got plenty of mobiles and keep counting...and i don't think so they will provide a lag fix for a 2010 march released legend [ don't take exceptional case]
I don't know but manufacturers generally provide support for a phone for 2 years. Routine maintenance. Nokia still provides updates to the aging 5800. I don't think HTC will drop support for a phone that's hardly a year old.
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Gratia has android 2.3 and Legend has 2.1/2.2 so Gratia will be faster...
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I don't know but manufacturers generally provide support for a phone for 2 years. Routine maintenance. Nokia still provides updates to the aging 5800. I don't think HTC will drop support for a phone that's hardly a year old.
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the problem is that HTC seems to be releasing more fones than it can handle..rather than a few gud fones and decent support..
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the problem is that HTC seems to be releasing more fones than it can handle..rather than a few gud fones and decent support..
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But still the support HTC gives so far is still better than what other companies are giving their users, even when they are pumping out less phones than HTC.
^true..but thats nt my point..htc can do well without launching the gratia..all they have to do is continue support for something like the legend(same specs..likely to be ignored as time passes in favour of gratia)..
So today i read some articles about the new Desire C ( dutch articles most of you wouldn't understand them but google is your friend )
So basicly this is some sort of Wildfire type phone. Low specs. And guess what. It is rocking ICS.
I don't understand why HTC is bringing out this low spec phones with ICS and not updating the Desire Z with ICS.
Yes it is probably because of sense 3.6 being to heavy for our phone.
But as i recal there once was a HTC Desire who was not supposed to get a Gingerbread update and it still got it because the users were not satisfied with HTC behaviour on this.
So basicly my point is. We need to let them hear our voice on this and go ahead and sign those petitions that were started weeks ago if you did not do this then.
Many thanks!
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So today i read some articles about the new Desire C ( dutch articles most of you wouldn't understand them but google is your friend )
So basicly this is some sort of Wildfire type phone. Low specs. And guess what. It is rocking ICS.
I don't understand why HTC is bringing out this low spec phones with ICS and not updating the Desire Z with ICS.
Yes it is probably because of sense 3.6 being to heavy for our phone.
But as i recal there once was a HTC Desire who was not supposed to get a Gingerbread update and it still got it because the users were not satisfied with HTC behaviour on this.
So basicly my point is. We need to let them hear our voice on this and go ahead and sign those petitions that were started weeks ago if you did not do this then.
Many thanks!
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Actually I believe its running sense 4.0 as it shows in the screenshots. But it only has a 600mhz processor
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Actually I believe its running sense 4.0 as it shows in the screenshots. But it only has a 600mhz processor
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I know that and I did not state that it is not. You were probably confused with my 3.6 statement. HTC is not updating older phones with sense 4.0 but with 3.6 and that is why we won't get the update. It is simply to much for this phone. But we could get a slimmed to version of 3.6.
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Its because they are money hungry and they want you to buy new phone.If they stay pushing out updates to older phones they won't encourage you to buy new phones=smaller profit for them
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New phone - new money for company . No sense in upgradin old devices to the latest updates , when it is possible to get profit from pushiing out new smartphone even when specs is lower than olders one.
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However, they could give us some source codes for the devs to make the work and not htc
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First, horrible thread title.
Second, dont look at this like "**** HTC; They release (another) ****ty phone and it has ICS!". No...Look at this as a low specd phone with ICS; Opening a SLIGHT REMOTE AND SMALL oportunity that our HTC Desire Z might get a ICS update. Facts are in: HTC Desire HD will (at some point in 90000000000 years) get ICS which has a lot in common internally with our phone, the Desire Z is the last QWERTY phone from HTC, and a way lower specs phone (except in internal space) has ICS before us. They may surprise us.
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First, horrible thread title.
Second, dont look at this like "**** HTC; They release (another) ****ty phone and it has ICS!". No...Look at this as a low specd phone with ICS; Opening a SLIGHT REMOTE AND SMALL oportunity that our HTC Desire Z might get a ICS update. Facts are in: HTC Desire HD will (at some point in 90000000000 years) get ICS which has a lot in common internally with our phone, the Desire Z is the last QWERTY phone from HTC, and a way lower specs phone (except in internal space) has ICS before us. They may surprise us.
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THEY SHOULD BE! Or else...
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riahc3 said:
First, horrible thread title.
Second, dont look at this like "**** HTC; They release (another) ****ty phone and it has ICS!". No...Look at this as a low specd phone with ICS; Opening a SLIGHT REMOTE AND SMALL oportunity that our HTC Desire Z might get a ICS update. Facts are in: HTC Desire HD will (at some point in 90000000000 years) get ICS which has a lot in common internally with our phone, the Desire Z is the last QWERTY phone from HTC, and a way lower specs phone (except in internal space) has ICS before us. They may surprise us.
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And because this is probably the last QWERTY phone from HTC they SHOULD update this phone. I am not going to buy a new phone without a h/w keyboard ( don't throw in the motorola argument in here they don't sell them in my country ). If htc is stopping with the QWERTY phones at least keep your latest up to date for a decent amount of time...
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And because this is probably the last QWERTY phone from HTC they SHOULD update this phone. I am not going to buy a new phone without a h/w keyboard ( don't throw in the motorola argument in here they don't sell them in my country ). If htc is stopping with the QWERTY phones at least keep your latest up to date for a decent amount of time...
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Why do people say they "should"? They shouldnt do ****. Back in the WAY old days, phones were never updated. These updates are free and they do it because they want to. They arent forced to do anything.
And you people obviously do not run a business or know how it runs. Here is a hint: PROFIT. Why would I, a phone maker, update my old models when I can simply release a Desire Z 2 (for example purposes) with the only difference is that it has ICS and sell it for 400 and lower the Desire Z 1 at 200? Thats called smart business because everyone wants the new model and if they cant afford it, they can go for the old one.
NO COMPANY IS FORCES OR SHOULD PUT OUT UPDATES. They release updates because they want to.
IMHO, i find it unfair that DHD users are getting their ICS upgrade while we are, well, most probably not even though both the DHD and DZ are launched concurrently.
riahc3 said:
Why do people say they "should"? They shouldnt do ****. Back in the WAY old days, phones were never updated. These updates are free and they do it because they want to. They arent forced to do anything.
And you people obviously do not run a business or know how it runs. Here is a hint: PROFIT. Why would I, a phone maker, update my old models when I can simply release a Desire Z 2 (for example purposes) with the only difference is that it has ICS and sell it for 400 and lower the Desire Z 1 at 200? Thats called smart business because everyone wants the new model and if they cant afford it, they can go for the old one.
NO COMPANY IS FORCES OR SHOULD PUT OUT UPDATES. They release updates because they want to.
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A little detail i have to fix in your post... HTC never said anything about releasing a new phone with a hardware keyboard, they should update their latest because there will be no more newer version (unless the One Z is real... Which is not)...
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i didn't mean to flame you, nor to mock you in any kind of way
probably HTC did hte math and decided that neither a new Z phone or updating the old one was worth it...
We can keep asking .. you'll never know!
But You'll have to agree with the fact that is all just about money...
The whole argument with "phones did not get updated in the past" is kind of stupid. Phones are not what they used to be. It is not just a phone anymore it is a pocket computer.
Also they also did it with the desire so if we try hard enough maybe we can get official ICS.
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Probably we won't be seeing a successor to the Desire Z. And that is just sad. But I used my friends' note and typing on it wasn't that bad. The general trend is moving away from h/w keyboards.
I doubt there will be an ICS version for our Desire Z ever. Cause where is the attraction of buying a new one WITH ICS?
I´m running my two DesireZ with Andromadus beta ICS for a while now and I have the feeling of having a new mobile in my hands. So I gave up the thought buying a new one That's exactly what they do not want..
Mike
I don't care much for ics as gingerbread has all the features I need, and unless there is a flawless ics rom why bother. I won't get a new phone (if my g2 breaks ill buy a used g2 from ebay) fact is that many g2/dz may not get another htc phone when theirs goes bad for many of us want a hardware keyboard. So why not move on to something else especially if they get a discount with a new contract. Untill we see a comprable yet updated phone from htc with a hardware keyboard they will probably loose more money than if they just released ics for our phones in the meantime while the g3 is being built. In the sense that we will keep these untill the g3 comes out. The g1 was the absolute best phone untill the g2, if there isn't a g3 then another company will certainly make the best phone and even the die hard htc fans (me included) will change our minds.
Just my take...
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