Hi everybody, I'm new to this HTC Shift forum. I've bought a short while ago one HTC Shift s/h, it works all right, but I am very unsatisfied with Vista, even after the F3 recovery it is so slooooowwww!
Therefore I would like to speed it up by installing Windows XP (for which I have the necessary license).
I did my good reading on this forum, but almost all the threads are 1 or 2 years old, some of the links are already dead, so I did not come to a firm conclusion on whether Win XP works completely OK on the HTC Shift. I've been reading about problems reported in connection with certain drivers, touch screen, wireless, Shift Control Center, SD and SDHC cards, switching resolution, WMP, etc which I don't know if have been sorted out or not.
So it would be great if somebody could confirm me if installing Win XP leads firmly to a positive result. Pointing to some updated links for the appropriate downloads would be the other great thing that I would appreciate.
Looking forward to your soonest answers!
Thank you so much!
I have installed Xp only on my Shift long time ago,everything is working faster and better.
Keep in mind you will not have Shift Control Center anymore but a directory with shortcuts to switch BT,WiFi,Reset Snapvue,Etc.
Also Gsensor is great with Screen Rotation.
Follow this link to install WinXp - contact me if you encounter some problems.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=517824
unapproachable2kx said:
I have installed Xp only on my Shift long time ago,everything is working faster and better.
Keep in mind you will not have Shift Control Center anymore but a directory with shortcuts to switch BT,WiFi,Reset Snapvue,Etc.
Also Gsensor is great with Screen Rotation.
Follow this link to install WinXp - contact me if you encounter some problems.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=517824
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Thanks unapproachable2kx for your encouragement, I sent you a PM.
unapproachable2kx said:
I have installed Xp only on my Shift long time ago,everything is working faster and better.
Keep in mind you will not have Shift Control Center anymore but a directory with shortcuts to switch BT,WiFi,Reset Snapvue,Etc.
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As Wireless Connection Managers for wifi and BT I know 3 tools that are doing the job in XP for specific brand notebooks: HP Wireless Assistant, Dell QuickSet and Asus Console Utility. I wonder if any would work on the XP Shift. I will let you know once XP installed and running, probably next week or so. About managing the 3G modem, I guess this will stay on "manual". I have no idea about how to bring up the Snap View hard-reset button.
On the other hand there were some links on this forum, all broken now, for DL an XP adapted Shift Control Center. Did that piece of sofware really exist and work fine or was it just a bluff?
Hi again everybody!
Just one question before I stat the xp install: performing the HDD Format operation during xp install would distroy the Vista recovery partition or not?
A quick answer would be appreciated and would help me a lot!
Thank you!
From what I remember Hdd format would not destroy Recovery partition as it is hidden and read only. You would need to unhide and make readable to change it.
Than about Shift Control Center for XP you will have the ability to:
Wifi Control
BT Control
SnapVue Reset
Snapvue EnterBootloader
Sound control
This is my improved version.
I was planning to make a Control Center GUI with C++ but always delayed who knows maybe one day I will find some free time will surely post.
unapproachable2kx said:
From what I remember Hdd format would not destroy Recovery partition as it is hidden and read only. You would need to unhide and make readable to change it.
Than about Shift Control Center for XP you will have the ability to:
Wifi Control
BT Control
SnapVue Reset
Snapvue EnterBootloader
Sound control
This is my improved version.
I was planning to make a Control Center GUI with C++ but always delayed who knows maybe one day I will find some free time will surely post.
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Thank you unapproachable2kx!
About the Shift Control Center for XP, when you wrote "This is my improved version" did you mean that you actually have it and you can load it somewhere for public use or that you just listed the features of what you planned to be?
Anyway, if you still have the "traditional version" of the Shift Control Center for XP mentioned several times on this forum, I would much appreciate if you could attach it to your next post or sent it to me via PM.
Thank you and have a nice week-end!
help ShagCtrl.exe
same Dilemma where does one download?
Shift Control Center : ShagCtrl.exe
Can it be recovered from the original vista install?
shagctrl.exe
Found something on htc site
Shagctrl_1[1].2.6.122-control center
HTC control center
dl4.htc.com/Driver//HTC%20Shift/shagctrl_1[/url][1].2.6.122-control%20center.zip
general-search.net/fileinfo/gs3918b18h82i0
waragi said:
Found something on htc site
Shagctrl_1[1].2.6.122-control center
HTC control center
dl4.htc.com/Driver//HTC%20Shift/shagctrl_1[/url][1].2.6.122-control%20center.zip
general-search.net/fileinfo/gs3918b18h82i0
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Thanks waragi, I imagine those are the original HTC files for Vista, which are not working with XP.
impossible to install the wifi or to have the wifi
unapproachable2kx said:
I have installed Xp only on my Shift long time ago,everything is working faster and better.
Keep in mind you will not have Shift Control Center anymore but a directory with shortcuts to switch BT,WiFi,Reset Snapvue,Etc.
Also Gsensor is great with Screen Rotation.
Follow this link to install WinXp - contact me if you encounter some problems.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=517824
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hi friend
i have a problem to install the wifi
i dont understand the step 14 on installing xp
many times i made the installation
all is good but wifi is the problem i ve made many installation of this but it won t work maybe in dont translate good this step
im french
14.- run cygwin\setup.exe, and select install from folder. select ioperm from the devel subfolder.
Unselect icons on desktop and start menu and finish.
Run cygwin.bat from c:\cygwin
type “ioperm –i” + enter and “exit” + enter
move hsect-2.1\hsect2.exe and move it to c:\cygwin\bin
can explain me step by step this step
thanks a lot
xp htc shift x9500
help me please, I need the driver for all the xp
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Hello,
Just upgraded my laptop to Windows Vista. I used to run a program called ActiveSyncRemoteDisplay from Microsoft under XP. This no longer runs under Vista and I haven't found a replacement.
Does anyone currently use a Remote Display (Free preferably) under Vista?
Thanks a million
-- Val
vpalhories said:
Hello,
Just upgraded my laptop to Windows Vista. I used to run a program called ActiveSyncRemoteDisplay from Microsoft under XP. This no longer runs under Vista and I haven't found a replacement.
Does anyone currently use a Remote Display (Free preferably) under Vista?
Thanks a million
-- Val
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I had to switch back to XP but I found this, maybe it'll help..
http://justanothermobilemonday.com/...microsoft-remote-display-control-wm5-and-vga/
Dr Puttingham said:
I had to switch back to XP but I found this, maybe it'll help..
http://justanothermobilemonday.com/...microsoft-remote-display-control-wm5-and-vga/
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Steven,
Thanks for the reply. I had already come accross that link and tried it. Unfortunately, the Remote Display software does not install under Vista. I'm getting "ERROR_MISSING_CEAPPMGR entry not found in string table"
I'll keep hunting!
Thanks again.
-- Val
Just copy this to your device and install it from there - this is the same MS CERdisplay program but without the need to install it on your device via ActiveSync
Smiffy.
Lordsmiff said:
Just copy this to your device and install it from there - this is the same MS CERdisplay program but without the need to install it on your device via ActiveSync
Smiffy.
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I installed the CAB file on my device and launch CERHost.EXE on my laptop. My phone (Cingular 8525) is tethered to my laptop and connected. Once I open CERDisp.EXE from my device, I enter PPP_PEER as the address to connect to. The Caption on the CERHost.EXE changes to WM_VPALHORIES which is my phone name however the image from the device is not shown on the computer. I get no errors at all during this process.
Any advice on what I should do next?
Thanks
-- Val
I don't understand. Is this another form of remote desktop?
ChiGGz said:
I don't understand. Is this another form of remote desktop?
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No, it simply allows you to see your mobile device screen from your computer screen (and control your device from your computer). I use this for training.
Try this one...
I don't know if this works under Vi$ta - it does a great job on XP. It's called MyMobiler: www.mtux.com
chandalf said:
I don't know if this works under Vi$ta - it does a great job on XP. It's called MyMobiler: www.mtux.com
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Gave it a shot and I'm getting the same results as the previous ones I tried. Device connects, however nothing is being displayed on the PC.
The hunt continues ... thanks for your help.
-- Val
Thanks for that link, chandalf. That's a very nice little program.
To answer the original question, Pocket Controller is a commercial product that does what you need and the most recent version claims to work with Vista.
They do have a free trial so that you can test it to see. And, if it turns out that it doesn't work for you, you will be able to use them for tech support.
http://www.soti.net/default.asp?Cmd=Products&SubCmd=PCPro
chandalf said:
I don't know if this works under Vi$ta - it does a great job on XP. It's called MyMobiler: www.mtux.com
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Got it to work!!!!!
I updated my HTC USB Sync drivers which in turn updated the Windows Mobile Device Center. MyMobiler now works as does the one Smiffy sent.
Thanks to all who helped me with this. I appreciate your time.
-- Val
See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=318425 for a complete review of MyMobiler
Hi All, yesterday i install xp on my GF's eee900 using nLite, it's very fast and i am so impress. Now that is done and running super fast, i wonder if i could do the same for my shift, by using vLite to create a strip down version of vista and intall it from an external DVD drive.
Tne problem i could think of is drivers, do wehave the complete list of drives for vista? if so, i think it will be very possible, you get to disable all the service and microsoft cr*p that you don't want, which will speed up Shift a lot.
Let me know what you guys think.
I think the more techno savvy of this forum are working on this amongst other things. If HTC was to provide drivers for the hardware it would help, a lot...
wu5262 said:
Hi All, yesterday i install xp on my GF's eee900 using nLite, it's very fast and i am so impress. Now that is done and running super fast, i wonder if i could do the same for my shift, by using vLite to create a strip down version of vista and intall it from an external DVD drive.
Tne problem i could think of is drivers, do wehave the complete list of drives for vista? if so, i think it will be very possible, you get to disable all the service and microsoft cr*p that you don't want, which will speed up Shift a lot.
Let me know what you guys think.
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After mounting the XVISTA.WIM inside the recovery partition, I can safely say, Vlite will not work with Shifts Vista.
However, I am currently working on a solution.
I will use a normal Vista Business to create a lite version of Vista and slipstream it into the recovery partition. I hope to shave off a few GB and get some resources free.
But it will take me a few days to get that done. Will keep you updated.
Awww cumon!!
You only have a hard working 800Mz proc!!!
Give it loads of extra file handling and say NITE NITE!!!
(Soz, alchohol moment...)
Do not expect this kit to do anything normally expected of a PC or good laptop, it is a slow UMPC as nothing better exists YET!!!!
I used to see this of people expecting to see a TyTynII act as a laptop!!
Please read the specs of the device and hope for a little more from XDA devs, but not miracles out of the box!!
dude, I play mkv files on it
of course, on win xp made using nlite, with carefull a codec and player selection. there are some of us that would try to get every mhz out of that processor, just for fun and proofs of concepts.
if it were possible i would put win98 on it, and have a boot time of 20sec . It would still offer more then a windows mobile environment.
its more about the size of the Vista installation.
Its easier for me to modify Vista then getting XP to work on this.
Besides, whats wrong with freeing up resources...doesnt cost anything and makes it more responsive.
so far, it runs really nice and quick.
Can even play some stuff on it (Ground Control)
anyway...as soon as its done, I will post the download link
aquasesh said:
its more about the size of the Vista installation.
Its easier for me to modify Vista then getting XP to work on this.
Besides, whats wrong with freeing up resources...doesnt cost anything and makes it more responsive.
so far, it runs really nice and quick.
Can even play some stuff on it (Ground Control)
anyway...as soon as its done, I will post the download link
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EXCELLENT!
This may be hard to believe but windows 2008 server Standard is FAR FASTER than running Vista SP1 on your Shift.
I have installed Server 2008 today and it runs really quickly. It also runs with approximately 490MB of RAM free and responds to starting applications much better...
There are however a few issues........
1. ShagCtrl.exe doesn't run properly it complains about WLANAPI.DLL not being present.
2. The touch screen doesn't work.
Everything else does and works much faster than using VISTA.
Anyone post for me the WLANAPI.DLL so i don't have to re-install vista just to get it please and let me know where it should be placed...
Thanks
Fascinating !!
You actually did what I didn't dare to do.. !!
I assume that there are a few people here capable of delivering what you asked.
The problem might be the touchscreen drivers, to get those working...
I'll keep a close watch on this thread.
One question, did you delete the recovery partition ?
ANother question, did you attach an external DVD an booted from it ?
In the boot menu, there's no option , maybe I should attach a USB DVD or Ethernet connection ?
EDIT : forgot to say that there's postings on this forum offering the drivers seperately. Maybe you can install them ?
Drivers and stuff
Yeah kept the recovery partition F3+FN intact.......
Booted off an external USB DVD device (which shows up on FN+F10)
I have all the drivers separately but was missing some DLLs.
Recovered to VISTA last night and copied off Program Files & WINDOWS to capture all the DLLs and infs....
Re-installing 2008 Server now...
Will let you know how i get on........ But it's sooooo much quicker.....
Microsoft really have optimised Server 2008 over Vista even though is shares some of the same kernel.........
I think a better way forward is to get it to work with Server 2008....
Regards
Blitz
wow, great job mate, but how much does server 2008 cost?
and is it worth that cost, considering vista is installed free?
Rory
I'm an MSND member (Technet PLUS) which sets you down about 400$ a year. In return, you can install any OS they ever made with a key. 4 timees per key if im correct. So m Windows 2008 is payed for already, but understand not everybody has technet plus from microsoft.
It's a darn good deal.
If you do get ShagCtrl and VitaKey work with your Windows server 2008 I think that might make me install Server 2008 as well.
Good Luck and let us know how it turns out!
sorry for my ignorance, but does Server 2008 behave in a similar way to Vista? can you install the same apps? i.e. would Skype work? what would be the main disadvantages of doing this?
Hi all,
I have the HTC Shift and i really love the on screen keyboard and the possibility, to scroll the internet explorer with the finger like on pda phones with the opera mini, f.e.
Now I have a touchscreen on my HTPC and I am thinking, if it is possible, to do the same trick on this pc! Does somebody know, which software do I have to install?
Thanks a lot,
dabra
You need a version of Vista that comes with Tablet PC software add ons.
I don't know if there is a way to get this for Vista Premium. I would like to get it for my laptop as the on-screen keyboard of Tablet PC is superiour when it comes to multiple languages.
you can get the on screen keyboard in the following location of windows
%SystemRoot%\system32\osk.exe
Thanks, but I am searching for that one, I use on the HTC Shift. It is not the windows keyboard, that is too small and not so good. I don`t think, that it has to do with the windows version, cause now I have on the Shift Windows 7 Ultimate and if I am not wrong, it was to see on the screen after I installed all of the drivers form the HTC Homepage for the Shift. So I think, one of these software/driver ist it.
Anybody knows it more specific?
dabra said:
Thanks, but I am searching for that one, I use on the HTC Shift. It is not the windows keyboard, that is too small and not so good. I don`t think, that it has to do with the windows version, cause now I have on the Shift Windows 7 Ultimate and if I am not wrong, it was to see on the screen after I installed all of the drivers form the HTC Homepage for the Shift. So I think, one of these software/driver ist it.
Anybody knows it more specific?
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Vista Ultimate comes with all Tablet Functionality. And the installation should have recognized your touch screen and installed all the necessary drivers for it. Open your device manager and see what it says and fix the necessary drivers if it is giving a warning.
Thanks
Ram
saiweb said:
Vista Ultimate comes with all Tablet Functionality. And the installation should have recognized your touch screen and installed all the necessary drivers for it. Open your device manager and see what it says and fix the necessary drivers if it is giving a warning.
Thanks
Ram
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and by the way, IE7 and above support the hand tool (grab and drag or scroll)
For me when i use the firefox , i have added on grab and scroll into it , i therefore can scroll up n down with my stylus anywhere besides the scroll bar
Hi, I am about to get an HTC Shift here soon.
I was wondering which OS to put on the device.
I need to know which OS will run the smoothest. (Videos, gaming, not freezing up, etc.).
I know that there are some people here that know the answer. I'd really appreciate it if any of you can help me out here. Thanks guys!
Also, which would be the fastest version? Home, Tablet, Professional, etc.?
Spazer77710 said:
Hi, I am about to get an HTC Shift here soon.
I was wondering which OS to put on the device.
I need to know which OS will run the smoothest. (Videos, gaming, not freezing up, etc.).
I know that there are some people here that know the answer. I'd really appreciate it if any of you can help me out here. Thanks guys!
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Choose windows 7, Windows xp just doesn't bring what you want due to the lack of good touch input, windows vista is slow. Windows 7 and XP performance are almost the same..
Messing around a bit 7 is best. 8 is beta and weird, XP is old and out of date for touch and such, Vista is a lost cause.
I got a 2gb RAM module for $95 off ebay by trading in my 1gb module. Shop around, you can find great deals.
Soon I am going to load Ubuntu 12.04 on it, I think in the long run of things it might work best, I'll post my findings.
Thanks for your response man. I think I found the correct drivers for Windows 7.
It was a pack I found here on XDA. It's too bad... 99% of the links for the HTC Shift Drivers are all bad.
Actually. I have a question. Would you happen to know if I install Windows 7, will the Windows Mobile part still be there? And also, do you think you could link me to the correct thread where you can use the HTC Shift as a phone?
That would be extremely helpful.
This is where I got the Drivers for Windows 7. - http://tb.gtxhosting.ru/pub/htc_shift.zip
I hope that is right.
I also somehow found a Pack for Windows XP Drivers. Do you think this is right? Here's the link. - http://archive02.filefactory.com/dl...29dc3cea11302048b02728/n/drivers_shift_XP.rar
Let me know, I'd really appreciate it. I'm glad to see that there are still some people who post about this device. =D
Spazer77710 said:
Thanks for your response man. I think I found the correct drivers for Windows 7.
It was a pack I found here on XDA. It's too bad... 99% of the links for the HTC Shift Drivers are all bad.
Actually. I have a question. Would you happen to know if I install Windows 7, will the Windows Mobile part still be there? And also, do you think you could link me to the correct thread where you can use the HTC Shift as a phone?
That would be extremely helpful.
This is where I got the Drivers for Windows 7. - http://tb.gtxhosting.ru/pub/htc_shift.zip
I hope that is right.
I also somehow found a Pack for Windows XP Drivers. Do you think this is right? Here's the link. - http://archive02.filefactory.com/dl...29dc3cea11302048b02728/n/drivers_shift_XP.rar
Let me know, I'd really appreciate it. I'm glad to see that there are still some people who post about this device. =D
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same stuff I found and check out my thread here
The WM side stays, its a hardware VM. I dont have time to jack with mine but I will post up a good updated write up with all my findings next week on windows 7 and WM 6.
Spazer77710 said:
Thanks for your response man. I think I found the correct drivers for Windows 7.
It was a pack I found here on XDA. It's too bad... 99% of the links for the HTC Shift Drivers are all bad.
Actually. I have a question. Would you happen to know if I install Windows 7, will the Windows Mobile part still be there? And also, do you think you could link me to the correct thread where you can use the HTC Shift as a phone?
That would be extremely helpful.
This is where I got the Drivers for Windows 7. - http://tb.gtxhosting.ru/pub/htc_shift.zip
I hope that is right.
I also somehow found a Pack for Windows XP Drivers. Do you think this is right? Here's the link. - http://archive02.filefactory.com/dl...29dc3cea11302048b02728/n/drivers_shift_XP.rar
Let me know, I'd really appreciate it. I'm glad to see that there are still some people who post about this device. =D
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Don't download, Just download the official "Vista" drivers from the HTC Site, and then search for the instructions "how to install windows 7 HTC Shift" you'll get a topic with all the steps you should take. But you do have to download a new wlan driver.
Thanks for your response Armazia. I'll try to look around for the Vista Drivers and the instruction for Windows 7. I tried to look earlier, but I couldn't find it for some reason. I'll give it a shot now.
I couldn't find anything on HTC's site. I found this though. Will this work? - http://driver-pro.com/related/english/hardware-drivers/?a=12226&hit=1
I will post up all the drivers I use once its done, Might be a while yet, working away from home starting tomorrow, wont be back till tues or weds.
I'll host it at Morninglion.com, my own website, so it will stay there.
Thanks so much! Your Great!
I should receive the HTC Shift I ordered by about that time too.
seems HTC shift comes back alive since there is sales recently
my htc will arrive today ... ready for rock on roll
btw, anybody can tell me whether responsive noticeable increase
with 2GB RAM instead of 1GB stock RAM if running windows 7 ??
dony71 said:
seems HTC shift comes back alive since there is sales recently
my htc will arrive today ... ready for rock on roll
btw, anybody can tell me whether responsive noticeable increase
with 2GB RAM instead of 1GB stock RAM if running windows 7 ??
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I think its not worth it, since it only has a 800 mhz processor.. You won't really benefit of 2 gb.
I find windows 8 very good, and very snappy. Try it! Its very nice on the huge touch screen.
Best regards
I like the speed and quickness on windows 8. If you disable windows defender and file indexing (search), it runs very quickly. I use the stardock windows 8 menu as well. Has anyone gotten the WM side to be recognized on Windows 8. I was able to get it working on Vista and Windows 7 but having trouble with 8. Anyone have any good incite?
Does anybody know if it is still possible to download the Developer Preview of Windows 8? Microsoft only has links to the Consumer Preview. (Will this still work via the installation guide found here?)
I just ordered a Shift from the 1saleaday/Ben's Outlet for $199. Eagerly awaiting my new gadget!
Success, With a little work you can get the WM part to be visible in Windows 8 and can transfer files.
Once you use the usbtool, on the windows side you might need to repair the network connection (leave wifi off) and it works.
You can also use the SIM card to surf with windows 8 as well.
need liberation files
friends,my shift is windows 7 and need liberation files .when downloaded it is being saved as text file and cant liberate .pls mail me to [email protected] all the files for liberation.And also my snapVUE not working in windows7,