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vLite with Shift? Possible?

Hi All, yesterday i install xp on my GF's eee900 using nLite, it's very fast and i am so impress. Now that is done and running super fast, i wonder if i could do the same for my shift, by using vLite to create a strip down version of vista and intall it from an external DVD drive.
Tne problem i could think of is drivers, do wehave the complete list of drives for vista? if so, i think it will be very possible, you get to disable all the service and microsoft cr*p that you don't want, which will speed up Shift a lot.
Let me know what you guys think.

I think the more techno savvy of this forum are working on this amongst other things. If HTC was to provide drivers for the hardware it would help, a lot...

wu5262 said:
Hi All, yesterday i install xp on my GF's eee900 using nLite, it's very fast and i am so impress. Now that is done and running super fast, i wonder if i could do the same for my shift, by using vLite to create a strip down version of vista and intall it from an external DVD drive.
Tne problem i could think of is drivers, do wehave the complete list of drives for vista? if so, i think it will be very possible, you get to disable all the service and microsoft cr*p that you don't want, which will speed up Shift a lot.
Let me know what you guys think.
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After mounting the XVISTA.WIM inside the recovery partition, I can safely say, Vlite will not work with Shifts Vista.
However, I am currently working on a solution.
I will use a normal Vista Business to create a lite version of Vista and slipstream it into the recovery partition. I hope to shave off a few GB and get some resources free.
But it will take me a few days to get that done. Will keep you updated.

Awww cumon!!
You only have a hard working 800Mz proc!!!
Give it loads of extra file handling and say NITE NITE!!!
(Soz, alchohol moment...)
Do not expect this kit to do anything normally expected of a PC or good laptop, it is a slow UMPC as nothing better exists YET!!!!
I used to see this of people expecting to see a TyTynII act as a laptop!!
Please read the specs of the device and hope for a little more from XDA devs, but not miracles out of the box!!

dude, I play mkv files on it
of course, on win xp made using nlite, with carefull a codec and player selection. there are some of us that would try to get every mhz out of that processor, just for fun and proofs of concepts.
if it were possible i would put win98 on it, and have a boot time of 20sec . It would still offer more then a windows mobile environment.

its more about the size of the Vista installation.
Its easier for me to modify Vista then getting XP to work on this.
Besides, whats wrong with freeing up resources...doesnt cost anything and makes it more responsive.
so far, it runs really nice and quick.
Can even play some stuff on it (Ground Control)
anyway...as soon as its done, I will post the download link

aquasesh said:
its more about the size of the Vista installation.
Its easier for me to modify Vista then getting XP to work on this.
Besides, whats wrong with freeing up resources...doesnt cost anything and makes it more responsive.
so far, it runs really nice and quick.
Can even play some stuff on it (Ground Control)
anyway...as soon as its done, I will post the download link
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EXCELLENT!

Windows 7 on HTC HD2

Hello,
Does anyone knows how to install Windows 7 on the HTC HD2?
I've seen it on You Tube
t seems to me that like Android it is possible to have Windows 7 running on a HTC HD2.
I'm very interested to have it running on mine HD2.
Would anyone help me with it?
Many thanks

that's remote desktop.

windows 7
why would you want to?

thats not remote desktop because in remote desktop you cant use it in letterbox orientation, and doesnt have any keyboard the movie its very buggy thats a sign of uncompatible graphic mode but if thats real its good to have it like ubuntu and android

darkanubispr said:
thats not remote desktop because in remote desktop you cant use it in letterbox orientation, and doesnt have any keyboard the movie its very buggy thats a sign of uncompatible graphic mode but if thats real its good to have it like ubuntu and android
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There is landscape mode for remote desktop, you just have to flip it to landscape before you connect!
I can use the windows keyboard also.

Until WM7 is figured out it will be more locked down than WM6.5 meaning the opportunities to mod your phone to your liking with be less.

OK,
Thanks for your reply's
I wanted to use Windows 7 because I'll find it very easy to work with and I'm used to it
I tried a WAD-skin from Rajivshahi but the skin doesn't function very well on my device.
Perhaps I'm doing something wrong.
Maybe somebody knows something like Windows XP or Vista wich will work on the HTC HD2?

Are you serious?!?
Look at the specs needed to run Windows 7:
1 gigahertz (GHz) or faster 32-bit (x86) or 64-bit (x64) processor.
1 gigabyte (GB) RAM (32-bit) or 2 GB RAM (64-bit).
16 GB available hard disk space (32-bit) or 20 GB (64-bit).
DirectX 9 graphics device with WDDM 1.0 or higher driver.
Sure, we do have a 1HGz CPU, it's even 32bit! But it's NOT x86 or x64, it's a RISC processor using the ARMv7 instruction set.
Unless someone gets a hold of the sourcecode for Windows 7 and recompiles it for the ARMv7 instruction set, it won't be possible!
Even IF someone got the sourcecode, there are many things that should be adapted before porting Windows 7 to a mobile device like the HD2.
Oh, and then there's the RAM issue..
Sure, the HD2 has A LOT OF RAM compared to other Windows Mobile devices.. ..but it's still far away from 1 GB.
Which brings us to the next item on the list; "storage space"
In order to have 16GB, we need to use the Memory Card.
Sadly, the transfer speeds to and from the memory card is not as good as the ROM.
I don't have the speed figures right here, so I guess I can't argue that memory card speed isn't possible.
But I am 100% sure you'd need at least Class 6. (Those 16GB Class 6 cards are cheap, right?)
And at the end of the list; DirectX 9 graphics.
Thanks to one or more XDA members, we are slowly but steadily getting better #D hardware drivers.
Though we are not WDDM 1.0 compliant yet.
Probably never will be, as the hardware just isn't good enough.
You'll be happy to know, though, that we are able to emulate enough Intel CPU power to run Windows 95 on our devices!

YouTube
BenBok said:
I've seen it on You Tube
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If you look closely at that video in 720p, you'll notice the contents of "Computer"
I find it HIGHLY unlikely that his HD2 has THAT much storage space on either C: or D:
Where he's gotten that third local disk drive from, I have no idea..
Or how he got two DVD-ROMs conneted to it.
In the words of the youtube trolls; "Fake!"

Hmmm, just curious as to why you'd want something like that in your pocket. Buy an HTC Shift or a TabletPC. It'd much easier for you & probably cheaper to put Windows 7 on if you consider all the Advil, Aleve, Tylenol & whatever other headache medicine you'll save on.

OK,
You've got me convinced.
Dumb idea.
Is there any working skin to do the job on a HD2.
I've seen many skin's/ rom's, but till now nothing looks like something I want.
Maybe there is a site/tutorial how to make such a skin/ROM?

@topic
oh guys....
please....
search..........
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=677921
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=688317

Bonzo said:
If you look closely at that video in 720p, you'll notice the contents of "Computer"
I find it HIGHLY unlikely that his HD2 has THAT much storage space on either C: or D:
Where he's gotten that third local disk drive from, I have no idea..
Or how he got two DVD-ROMs conneted to it.
In the words of the youtube trolls; "Fake!"
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It's not fake, it's remote desktop.

OK,
Since I'm curious how it's done, maybe one of you wants to tell me how to connect to my PC (windows 7) with Remote Desktop Mobile.
I'm not familiar with it, please tell me in plain English. Thanks

HD2 with capacitive screen is freaking useless on remote desktop!
if you want to remote desktop, get a windows phone with resistive screen!
notice on the video, he never used the on-screen keyboard (remote pc keyboard) cus it freaking impossible to use on capacitive screen!

BenBok said:
OK,
Since I'm curious how it's done, maybe one of you wants to tell me how to connect to my PC (windows 7) with Remote Desktop Mobile.
I'm not familiar with it, please tell me in plain English. Thanks
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If you have Win7 Home Premium, Home or Basic, you can't.
If you have Win7 Professional or Ultimate, then:
- Connect your HD2 to your Wifi network, then find the IP of the Win7 computer
- To find the IP on the Win7 computer;
click on Start
type ' command ' into the "Search Programs and Files" box
click on "Command Prompt"
type ' ipconfig ' into the black box that appears
press Return or Enter on your keyboard
in the list that comes up, look for "IP address" under the wireless adaptor, usually starts with 192.168
- Open Remote Desktop on your HD2
- Enter the IP address of your computer and try to connect.
- If it doesn't connect, try checking your firewall on your Win7 computer to make sure Remote Desktop is allowed.

netnerd said:
HD2 with capacitive screen is freaking useless on remote desktop!
if you want to remote desktop, get a windows phone with resistive screen!
notice on the video, he never used the on-screen keyboard (remote pc keyboard) cus it freaking impossible to use on capacitive screen!
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Yeah, I agree.
Though I wonder if a bluetooth keyboard would work. probably?
Touch-screen works and that's input. And we can get output from the host computer. Maybe I'll try that one day.

Hi guys, i tried to install windows 7 on my HD2,
seems ok.
but Android is the way forward for apps

mannhoe said:
Hi guys, i tried to install windows 7 on my HD2,
seems ok.
but Android is the way forward for apps
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Wow, you got Windows 7 on your HD2? Now that would be a development...
(Guess it´s Windows Phone 7, no?).
Concerning apps, I don´t understand what people want...
Is it the number of apps which stands for the quality of what you get? According to my personal experience and opinion, 95% of all apps in Apple´s app store are just crap, and Android? Well, quite a bit chaotic, and quite a lot of crap, too.
But then again, thanks to a huge devs community like you find it here at xda, Android has a massive number of small apps which are really following user requests. And not just farts and other useless joke apps.

[Q] MMS Not working... Setup APN manually

Hey guys, got WP7 on my HD2 today and I was reading that you had to manually set your APN to gain 3G. I set mine up (epc.tmobile.com for TMOUS) and I have 3G, yet MMS still wont work! Have searched and searched and it seems some people's just works randomly. Halp!

try download from the market in the HTC section the connection setup... and let it configure the phone for tmobile... I don't know if it will fix the problem but theres no harm in trying

dont you have to go through that long fix to use the market....? right now i cant do that because the SDK tools wont install. says there is an issue installing .net framework 4 something or other.... :/ looks like im going back to stock 6.5 and android for now

d16soda said:
dont you have to go through that long fix to use the market....? right now i cant do that because the SDK tools wont install. says there is an issue installing .net framework 4 something or other.... :/ looks like im going back to stock 6.5 and android for now
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If you cant side load the connection setup since you dont have the dev tools installed and don't have it activated with Live... No other way..
Normally it would work with the APN set correctly since theres no other options like mms ip and so on... Enjoy Android.. Lets see if in the future this issue gets fixed

Well... I guess my heart is set that I am so in love with WP7, I am going to keep trying. My issue was the .NET framework. When I try to install the SDK it says that the .NET Framework 4 blah blah couldn't install. Mind you I manually installed the .NF4 beforehand, uninstalling and reinstalling now, will report back. Until then, anyone had this problem then fixed it?

d16soda said:
Well... I guess my heart is set that I am so in love with WP7, I am going to keep trying. My issue was the .NET framework. When I try to install the SDK it says that the .NET Framework 4 blah blah couldn't install. Mind you I manually installed the .NF4 beforehand, uninstalling and reinstalling now, will report back. Until then, anyone had this problem then fixed it?
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when I installed the tools I didnt have .NF4 installed.. and during the web install it installed already
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App

hakuchi18v said:
when I installed the tools I didnt have .NF4 installed.. and during the web install it installed already
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
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Web install? I had to download a special .zip file containing the dev tools for XP SP3 that i found here on the forums. What OS are you running? I think XP is kind of different... :/

d16soda said:
Web install? I had to download a special .zip file containing the dev tools for XP SP3 that i found here on the forums. What OS are you running? I think XP is kind of different... :/
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oo.. yea XP does have issues with that... Im on W7.. you can aways upgrade get the bonus of a new os if your pc meets the min req
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App

hakuchi18v said:
oo.. yea XP does have issues with that... Im on W7.. you can aways upgrade get the bonus of a new os if your pc meets the min req
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
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LOL. Got rid of my gaming rig... making dude with an AMD XP 2600+ 1GB Ram, and a GeForce 6800GS. get the job done, but would crumble on W7. I finally got past that point and installed the SDK. Now Zune effed up... reinstalling hoping to fix.

Hope everything ends up working for you... Aslong as Zune loads up and connects to the phone .. All you got to do is go into the market or Music while plugged in and sideloading should work
Hey i got W7 running on an Old Gateway with AMD Athlon 1400 1G Ram and Radeon 9550.. Aero and all runs fine.. Have it stored away just incase

hakuchi18v said:
Hope everything ends up working for you... Aslong as Zune loads up and connects to the phone .. All you got to do is go into the market or Music while plugged in and sideloading should work
Hey i got W7 running on an Old Gateway with AMD Athlon 1400 1G Ram and Radeon 9550.. Aero and all runs fine.. Have it stored away just incase
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Really? How does W7 run on that PC?
Now back on topic.... lol. So, I got Zune to load and my device connects correctly. Now chevron isn't working and apparently there is a 1% chance of anyone getting it to work on XP. Yet, I was just informed that most roms come pre-unlocked so I wont need chevron!
Now that my device is hooked up, how do I sideload? I have the connection setup ready to go.

d16soda said:
Really? How does W7 run on that PC?
Now back on topic.... lol. So, I got Zune to load and my device connects correctly. Now chevron isn't working and apparently there is a 1% chance of anyone getting it to work on XP. Yet, I was just informed that most roms come pre-unlocked so I wont need chevron!
Now that my device is hooked up, how do I sideload? I have the connection setup ready to go.
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If the ROM you have says it comes activated and unlocked with the registry changes already cooked then all you have to do is load up Zune and connect the phone.. then on the phone go to Music & Videos or the Market so the Sync Complete Screen comes up then just use TOM XAP installer or a hacked version of the Developer Application Deployment Program to sideload and .xap you want (connection setup)....
Off topic.. I just started up the setup DVD and it installed W7 on it and right from the start everything except the Audio worked and an update fixed it

hakuchi18v said:
If the ROM you have says it comes activated and unlocked with the registry changes already cooked then all you have to do is load up Zune and connect the phone.. then on the phone go to Music & Videos or the Market so the Sync Complete Screen comes up then just use TOM XAP installer or a hacked version of the Developer Application Deployment Program to sideload and .xap you want (connection setup)....
Off topic.. I just started up the setup DVD and it installed W7 on it and right from the start everything except the Audio worked and an update fixed it
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What cooked rom are you using? I'd like a preunlocked one... probably make things easier.

had the same issues with t-mobile uk. downloaded the htc conntection wizard and ran that and it worked fine. also try sending a picture message, as sometimes that seems to fix the issue (i had to do this on android).
as for the chevron hacks etc, you are better off using a pre-unlocked rom. look in the wp7 development section of this forum and u will find most roms will cook it in. if u have that then your next challenge will be the windows live id for marketplace access. US have chat support for windows phone 7, but in the UK i had to phone them and just got given a code
your PC will run windows 7 fine, windows 7 needs less resources than vista, i have some very old PCs running windows 7 and they run fine, the only issues i have come across is aero not working, which i can live without.
you may find that it is a worthwhile upgrade, as not only with the wp7 dev tools be much easier to install/use on windows 7, but any updates to them are most likely to only be available to windows 7, plus XP is in extended support, meaning that updates will only be rolled out if they are critical, and most newer software will carry the designed for windows 7 logo.

matthewharmon102 said:
had the same issues with t-mobile uk. downloaded the htc conntection wizard and ran that and it worked fine. also try sending a picture message, as sometimes that seems to fix the issue (i had to do this on android).
as for the chevron hacks etc, you are better off using a pre-unlocked rom. look in the wp7 development section of this forum and u will find most roms will cook it in. if u have that then your next challenge will be the windows live id for marketplace access. US have chat support for windows phone 7, but in the UK i had to phone them and just got given a code
your PC will run windows 7 fine, windows 7 needs less resources than vista, i have some very old PCs running windows 7 and they run fine, the only issues i have come across is aero not working, which i can live without.
you may find that it is a worthwhile upgrade, as not only with the wp7 dev tools be much easier to install/use on windows 7, but any updates to them are most likely to only be available to windows 7, plus XP is in extended support, meaning that updates will only be rolled out if they are critical, and most newer software will carry the designed for windows 7 logo.
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agreed. waiting for my hard disks to partition and installing windows 7.
I flashed a WP7 rom on my phone that is pre-unlocked, but I am still unsure how to side-load this connection setup. Phone connected and recognized by zuneeeee. What next?

d16soda said:
agreed. waiting for my hard disks to partition and installing windows 7.
I flashed a WP7 rom on my phone that is pre-unlocked, but I am still unsure how to side-load this connection setup. Phone connected and recognized by zuneeeee. What next?
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Glad to hear everything started to work out...
This is how i sideload apps
Once Zune regognizes the phone and syncs succesfully while still pluged in... on the phone make sure the backlite is set so it wont turn off.. if it turns off it breaks the connection.... Once you have that set go into the market on the phone or Music & Videos... Once you go into one of those apps it will say that you are connected and it will sync briefly and say sync complete... while still in that sync complete screen start up the Application Deployment and browse to the connection setup .xap and deploy it.. If the connection Setup is signed correctly (official App) it should successfully send it to the phone and load up right away.. if not it should be in the programs list

Hmm.. alright thanks man. Ill definitely give it a shot tomorrow.
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W7 works on my Acer one Netbook. 1Ghz CPu, 1GB ram and onboard 32mb graphics. even works with aero!

d16soda said:
Hey guys, got WP7 on my HD2 today and I was reading that you had to manually set your APN to gain 3G. I set mine up (epc.tmobile.com for TMOUS) and I have 3G, yet MMS still wont work! Have searched and searched and it seems some people's just works randomly. Halp!
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what worked for me was going to settings to cellular then to add apn.....the i put in the apn field epc.t-mobile.com....then other 2 fields left blank...reboot and i have 3g and full mms working perfect hope this helped out

nips_uk said:
W7 works on my Acer one Netbook. 1Ghz CPu, 1GB ram and onboard 32mb graphics. even works with aero!
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Exactly what I have running. Runs Ultimate fine.
Back on topic. Its not tht hard to sideload apps.
Turn lockscreen timer to never in settings.
Open Zune. Wait for sync complete. Minimize Zune.
Deploy xap via Toms xap installer or even easier download wp7 marketplace for PC and set xap file association to have wpdeploy run on double click.
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Activate legitimate Windows 8 Pro

Hi,
I had a legitimate Windows 7, and recently I bought a legitimate Windows 8 Pro upgrade. Al went fine until yesterday when my SSD disk crashed.
I changed hard disk, re download from official microsoft site the Windows 8 Pro, put it on a USB and reinstalled windows 8.
Now the Windows 8 does not activate since it is saying that it is an upgrade and not a clean install version.
Wht are my option now?
Losing one day of reinstalling Windows 7 and on top Windows 8 upgrade is out of the questions, unless Microsoft PAYS ME all the time it make me lose.
Thanks for any advice

Sadly, I don't think you can activate Windows 8 with a upgrade key, when you do a clean install. I'm staying away from the upgrade and going with the full version due to this. I wish I had something more to say, but if you want Windows 8, you'll have to reinstall Windows 7 and then perform the upgrade to activate with that key.

Konner920 said:
Sadly, I don't think you can activate Windows 8 with a upgrade key, when you do a clean install. I'm staying away from the upgrade and going with the full version due to this. I wish I had something more to say, but if you want Windows 8, you'll have to reinstall Windows 7 and then perform the upgrade to activate with that key.
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I prefer to look for a crack.
Dumb me having given my money to microsoft

Worst case install win7 does not even need to be activated. Then install Win8.
What you really need is just a Win8 installer that doesn't care about upgrade or not. The key will work with any disc that installs Win8 Pro.

claudioita said:
Hi,
I had a legitimate Windows 7, and recently I bought a legitimate Windows 8 Pro upgrade. Al went fine until yesterday when my SSD disk crashed.
I changed hard disk, re download from official microsoft site the Windows 8 Pro, put it on a USB and reinstalled windows 8.
Now the Windows 8 does not activate since it is saying that it is an upgrade and not a clean install version.
Wht are my option now?
Losing one day of reinstalling Windows 7 and on top Windows 8 upgrade is out of the questions, unless Microsoft PAYS ME all the time it make me lose.
Thanks for any advice
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Installing Windows 7 then Windows 8 is hardly a full days work, more like 5 minutes of work punctuated by 30 minutes worth of waiting. Also, Microsoft doesn't owe you anything if you failed to follow the terms of their licenses and can't get the software to work.
Also, note that you can do a clean install by booting off of the drive, there just has to be another copy of Windows present on the system (I took the HDD out of my laptop and put it in to get past this, didn't touch the HDD on my laptop and it let it activate)

Thanks for letting me know how absurd the terms of the license of the company microshot are.
Probably you are right I should have waisted another 4 or 5 hours reading their entire terms of license, eventually asking a lawyer his legal opinion, before understanding that is not worth to buy their product.
Now I know.

netham45 said:
Installing Windows 7 then Windows 8 is hardly a full days work, more like 5 minutes of work punctuated by 30 minutes worth of waiting. )
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Not when you don't have a windoz 7 cd, since it came pre-installed on my new laptop last year

Ah, yes, I forgot that coming across those rare Windows 7 discs is next to impossible and takes months of prepping and searching.
Also, you could have just googled it instead of reading the entire ToS, it's not like the cause to your issue isn't common knowledge or anything.
Your best route at this point is going to be either installing the release preview (and upgrading from that), finding the recovery discs that came with your laptop, or borrowing a friends recovery discs. None of which take a considerable amount of time, I might add.

netham45 said:
Ah, yes, I forgot that coming across those rare Windows 7 discs is next to impossible and takes months of prepping and searching.
Also, you could have just googled it instead of reading the entire ToS, it's not like the cause to your issue isn't common knowledge or anything.
Your best route at this point is going to be either installing the release preview (and upgrading from that), finding the recovery discs that came with your laptop, or borrowing a friends recovery discs. None of which take a considerable amount of time, I might add.
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If the answer is: go find a windows 7 disc somewhere (in my house there is none), google to find out the legalities of microshot, download a 2Gbyte file from the internet, , install the preview, then install the windows 8 pro upgrade and HOPE AND PRAY that all get well
and if something goes bad, maybe you would add that I should have googled for the solution to the "uncommon" problem.
No thanks, I send the computer to a repair shop. I hope they install me a cracked version. Or I may just switch to Apple.
Good bye.

Torrent the W8 release preview iso, upgrade from that.
Legal, easy.
claudioita said:
No thanks, I send the computer to a repair shop. I hope they install me a cracked version. Or I may just switch to Apple.
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If you can't handle something so simple, maybe you would be better off with Apple.

Echoing what everyone else says. You're mad because of a hardware fault and you are blaming Microsoft for something that you consciously chose. The upgrade disc only works if you have a copy of Windows 7 Available, because it doesn't include some core files that are standard. If you install Windows 8 using the Release Candidate disc through MSDN/Whatever, and then input your upgrade keys, you should be fine.
This thread doesn't belong in this subforum anyway, as it neither pertains to Development, or Hacking.

xenoletum said:
Echoing what everyone else says. You're mad because of a hardware fault and you are blaming Microsoft for something that you consciously chose. The upgrade disc only works if you have a copy of Windows 7 Available, because it doesn't include some core files that are standard. If you install Windows 8 using the Release Candidate disc through MSDN/Whatever, and then input your upgrade keys, you should be fine.
This thread doesn't belong in this subforum anyway, as it neither pertains to Development, or Hacking.
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Actually, all Windows 8 versions have the same core files, there's just this one file that makes them operate/install differently according to their given version (Core, Pro, VL, etc.) by using a specific product key. That's why you can still perform a clean install using an upgrade disc, but only certain keys that are capable of activating a clean install would work.
Now back to the problem. You can either install Windows 7 and upgrade to Windows 8, or try install Windows 8 again via clean install and add Media Center for free at Microsoft website. I'm not sure if it requires you an activated Windows 8 to add features or not. So yeah just trying to help.

downloaderintruder said:
Actually, all Windows 8 versions have the same core files, there's just this one file that makes them operate/install differently according to their given version (Core, Pro, VL, etc.) by using a specific product key. That's why you can still perform a clean install using an upgrade disc, but only certain keys that are capable of activating a clean install would work.
Now back to the problem. You can either install Windows 7 and upgrade to Windows 8, or try install Windows 8 again via clean install and add Media Center for free at Microsoft website. I'm not sure if it requires you an activated Windows 8 to add features or not. So yeah just trying to help.
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Why would that help? The media center key is for downloading media center, it won't activate 8.

claudioita said:
Hi,
I had a legitimate Windows 7, and recently I bought a legitimate Windows 8 Pro upgrade. Al went fine until yesterday when my SSD disk crashed.
I changed hard disk, re download from official microsoft site the Windows 8 Pro, put it on a USB and reinstalled windows 8.
Now the Windows 8 does not activate since it is saying that it is an upgrade and not a clean install version.
Wht are my option now?
Losing one day of reinstalling Windows 7 and on top Windows 8 upgrade is out of the questions, unless Microsoft PAYS ME all the time it make me lose.
Thanks for any advice
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I came across the same and fixed by following this it worked for me
Windows 8 users who noticed that the operating system can’t be activated after the installation may want to try the following workaround that worked to activate when installing Windows 8 using an upgrade on a clean PC.
Open regedit by pressing Windows-q, entering regedit and selecting the result from the list of hits.
Navigate to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/Software/Microsoft/Windows/CurrentVersion/Setup/OOBE/
Change MediaBootInstall from 1 to 0
Go back to the start screen and enter cmd there.
Right-click Command Prompt and select to run it as administrator.
Type slmgr /rearm on the command line and hit enter.
Reboot Windows now.
Run the activation utility afterwards, enter your product key to activate Windows.
Cheers !

xenoletum said:
Echoing what everyone else says. You're mad because of a hardware fault and you are blaming Microsoft for something that you consciously chose. The upgrade disc only works if you have a copy of Windows 7 Available, because it doesn't include some core files that are standard. If you install Windows 8 using the Release Candidate disc through MSDN/Whatever, and then input your upgrade keys, you should be fine.
This thread doesn't belong in this subforum anyway, as it neither pertains to Development, or Hacking.
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I am mad because I PAID for a legitimate Windows 7 operating system on a new Laptop that I paid for. No windows 7 CD came with the laptop. And I fully blame Macro**** for this.
This is a fully responsibility of Micro****: they know there are millions of user without Windows 7 CD and many of them are buying the upgrade to Windows 8 (fool us). And when something happens you have to bring it to a repair center, or lose incredible amount of time, surfing forums, asking questions all over, downloading Gigabytes of software and so on.
Yes, Microsoft is a horrible software house.
Other option Macrosh*t can do is say from the BEGINNING that your version is an upgrade and cannot be installed, instead of letting you install all the OS and then tell you. What a piece of **** company.

link68759 said:
Why would that help? The media center key is for downloading media center, it won't activate 8.
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Umm, I was just TRYING to help dumbass. Because I've done that before and it did activate because it sees it as a VALID PRODUCT KEY.

claudioita said:
I am mad because I PAID for a legitimate Windows 7 operating system on a new Laptop that I paid for. No windows 7 CD came with the laptop. And I fully blame Macro**** for this.
This is a fully responsibility of Micro****: they know there are millions of user without Windows 7 CD and many of them are buying the upgrade to Windows 8 (fool us). And when something happens you have to bring it to a repair center, or lose incredible amount of time, surfing forums, asking questions all over, downloading Gigabytes of software and so on.
Yes, Microsoft is a horrible software house.
Other option Macrosh*t can do is say from the BEGINNING that your version is an upgrade and cannot be installed, instead of letting you install all the OS and then tell you. What a piece of **** company.
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This is a little confusing. If you hate and you've hated Microsoft then why did you buy a brand new Windows 7 laptop and then willingly bought an upgrade to Windows 8. Hey seems like Macrosh*t still got what they wanted. Lol cheers :beer:
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downloaderintruder said:
Umm, I was just TRYING to help dumbass. Because I've done that before and it did activate because it sees it as a VALID PRODUCT KEY.
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I have an unactivated computer, I just tried it, "Before you can add features, you need to activate first".
I appreciate you were trying to help, but you don't know what you're talking about, go home.

claudioita said:
I am mad because I PAID for a legitimate Windows 7 operating system on a new Laptop that I paid for. No windows 7 CD came with the laptop. And I fully blame Macro**** for this.
This is a fully responsibility of Micro****: they know there are millions of user without Windows 7 CD and many of them are buying the upgrade to Windows 8 (fool us). And when something happens you have to bring it to a repair center, or lose incredible amount of time, surfing forums, asking questions all over, downloading Gigabytes of software and so on.
Yes, Microsoft is a horrible software house.
Other option Macrosh*t can do is say from the BEGINNING that your version is an upgrade and cannot be installed, instead of letting you install all the OS and then tell you. What a piece of **** company.
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Your just plain stupid, and not logical. The time you've waited posting nonsense could have been used to download an windows 7 iso, installed it and upgraded to WIN8 and be done with it.

This happened to me. If you do an upgrade of windows 8 over the windows 8 install you have now you will be good to go =D

XP Tips and Tricks

After years of running the wondrous pof's Hardy 8.04.1 Shift setup, I've gone back to XP. Mainly because Links2 (the fastest browser for this ancient hardware) no longer works with all sites due to its lack of security updates.
cygwin's Links2 2.14 for Windows has enough updated security, so one can visit any site. slimjet chrome browser for XP still syncs with google, but site-rendering is pretty glacial.
As usual, the sd card reader in XP is buggy, mostly due to its old 2002 driver that seems un-updatable. First, I've only gotten a 2GB-or-below card to be recognized. Secondly, the card has to be reinserted upon booting into XP and can also disappear upon resume-after-suspend. But the second issue is solved if one uses devcon.exe and a batch script disabling/reenabling the card driver:
Code:
@echo off
"C:\devcon.exe" disable =SDHost
timeout /t 2
"C:\devcon.exe" enable =SDHost
If anybody else is still using XP, it'd be interesting to hear any of your own workarounds.
I keep dragging my Shift out of mothballs and it's still one of the great niche devices.
Jake

I've only used Vista, Windows 7 and 10 on my HTC Shift, but now it is too slow with any of them so in the next few days, I'm planning on repurposing my Shift to become an offline retro-machine. Therefor I'm intending to install XP on it for the first time. I'll share my experiences on this forum. I'm intending to mostly use it for games and c64 emulation.

Did anyone manage to find Win XP drivers for the Shift?
Thanx

TRoN_1 said:
Did anyone manage to find Win XP drivers for the Shift?
Thanx
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'fraid not.
XP runs well, and the sound works, but I couldn't get optimal screen resolution, and many programs and games (such as Halo, FSX and even basic C64 emulators) refuse to run due to missing drivers.
Since XP has not had security support for a long time, I don't connect XP to the internet, nor do I download any of the general XP driver bundles that are available.
So XP HTC Shift is kind-of useful but not as much as I had hoped. I'm thinking of going back to an offline Windows 7.
I uploaded a couple of HTC Shift Windows XP videos today on YouTube. Here are the links:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7LbdGV1Rjg&t=9s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTU6Kvua7oI&t=458s