As of now, has anybody been able to compare The Evo to Leo running android?
I personally have been using darkstones V5 and its incredibly fast and responsive, the only thing lacking for me is the gps, 5mpx (possible 720p recording) and more battery time. If those would be fixed it would be perfect.
Now, back to the original question, I haven't used the Evo hands on. What do you guys think? does Leo match up with all its hardware running android? or will Evo remain the top android phone right now?
Food for thought: After everything is worked out on Leo, could it be the best Android phone around?
What do you guys think?
EVO is 4G, CMDA locked down device. Hardware is similar but it was build to run nativly the Android OS.
Leo is unlocked and can run win + android (with it's current limitations). If devs can (and I think the will) make a nand flashable ROM with all the things in working order, LEO is clearly the winner
I have used the EVO, but only in store, and with all those random apps that have been downloaded, but i can always ask my friend to compare our phones (he ownes the EVO) but this Desire ROM is great although its been charging all night, its only about ~98% and still charging, but its not complete as of yet, but once its done it will be a competitor to actual Android phones.
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evo= 4g + 8mp camera (720p & livestream), second camera, hdmi out etc.
evo is the winner for me leo is kinda the small brother of the evo
I own the HD2 and running the fastest version of Android (see sig) for me.
My wife has an EVO. My daughter also has an EVO. I've played with both extensively.
EVO's 4G is still difficult to connect to or find 4G area. Others have posted main specs so I won't go into that.
If you like Android, the EVO is superior in every way except battery life and construction.
The HD2 gets about 3-4 more useable hours than the EVO, and this is with 4G off.
The battery cover on the EVO covers almost the entire back plate. It's plastic and cheap.
Android rarely ever hesitates on the EVO. Android is at least twice as fast on the EVO.
Android on HD2 - certainly useable with a few missing features
Android on EVO - lightening fast and amazing
One thing people seem to miss is that the EVO, or Sprint's '4G' network for that matter, is not true 4G. It's actually WiMAX simply branded as 4G, but yes it is faster than the LEOs 3G.
I have been using the XTarantula's eclair build and it has worked rather well so far =D
The evo prints money.
I grants you three wishes even if one of those wishes is for an Iphone 4.
I has an app that builds you an island then transforms into a jet and fly's you there.
Its Mf indestructable.
it has the wifi's but very few gb's.
but seriously... Hd2 vs the evo 4g. Are you kidding me. One is native android one is not. And the hd2 is the original the evo is the mistakes they fixed.
Would I rather have the evo not really Im not missing nothing. I mean video chat would just make sexting worse. other than that the more mp's doesnt mean crap for picture quality.
Personally aside from the poor battery life problems which is because of androids lack of a ability to manage the hardware this thing runs pretty well.
I am perfectly happy with my hd2... and heard they are going for 99 now? If so I should have waited.
I got to say EVO has a better technology but sprint kills it, firstly because is a CMDA phone, second because of the outrageous price for the internet, oh and there is NO 4g coverage in many areas and last BECAUSE in a couple of month ANOTHER much more better device will come out.
SO OVERALL HTC H2 (LEO) IS FAR BETTER THAN EVO
using the latest zimage(released today ) , the hd2 3d benchmark scored higher than the evo and similar to the desire , so we are nearly close to perfection , and the speed has increased allot with the latest zimage
iam using stock 1.66 rom without even hspl nor new radio and with 2gb class 2 card , and desie v5 rom and it is really fast
A lot of people seems to be comparing the two phones by "Speed" "Responsivnes" and "Performance".
Now my friend got an Evo 4G, and I an HD2, and I must admit, I'm afraid that the EVO is better on those terms. Yes, it is a bit bigger and bulkier, but Android does run better on it whatever people says. When browsing the home screens on Android on both mine and his phone, it is clear that the Evo 4G is faster. The benchmarks may say something else, but when it comes to what really matters, which is the user interface, and how it works, I must declare the Evo the winner. Its jut a lot faster, this might be hard to understand, but trust me, when sitting with both devies in your hands, there's no doubt.
Also, when it comes to hardware, the screen itself, feels a bit more responsive on the Evo, but nearly as fast as the Iphone, or Xperia X10 mini.
But which phone is the winner? For me its the HD2. Not because of the way that it runs Android, or because that's its a bit smaller. But because of the community that it has created. Never before have I seen so many people dedicated to develope, test, and take part in all kinds of porting and hacking. It is beatifull to see Android work so good on the phone even tho its miles away from being perfect.
It is stunning to see the hundreds if not thousands of ROM's developed for this one and only phone, where people has been so great at providing feedback, to the skilled developers that this community boosts.
And that's why that this phone wins. Because of you! You guys are all the best
Stoferr said:
A lot of people seems to be comparing the two phones by "Speed" "Responsivnes" and "Performance".
Now my friend got an Evo 4G, and I an HD2, and I must admit, I'm afraid that the EVO is better on those terms. Yes, it is a bit bigger and bulkier, but Android does run better on it whatever people says. When browsing the home screens on Android on both mine and his phone, it is clear that the Evo 4G is faster. The benchmarks may say something else, but when it comes to what really matters, which is the user interface, and how it works, I must declare the Evo the winner. Its jut a lot faster, this might be hard to understand, but trust me, when sitting with both devies in your hands, there's no doubt.
Also, when it comes to hardware, the screen itself, feels a bit more responsive on the Evo, but nearly as fast as the Iphone, or Xperia X10 mini.
But which phone is the winner? For me its the HD2. Not because of the way that it runs Android, or because that's its a bit smaller. But because of the community that it has created. Never before have I seen so many people dedicated to develope, test, and take part in all kinds of porting and hacking. It is beatifull to see Android work so good on the phone even tho its miles away from being perfect.
It is stunning to see the hundreds if not thousands of ROM's developed for this one and only phone, where people has been so great at providing feedback, to the skilled developers that this community boosts.
And that's why that this phone wins. Because of you! You guys are all the best
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Wao! beautiful post!!
Thank you
Well, I don't consider the Evo to be the top native Android phone. I give that award to a member of the Galaxy S line. Better GPU + (IMO) better screen. But I digress...
While Android on the HD2 has improved by leaps and bounds over the last few weeks, it has a ways to go before it matches the Evo. Android is much smoother & faster on the Evo, not to mention the kinks that still need to be worked out on the HD2, and the better camera options on the Evo.
Stoferr said:
But which phone is the winner? For me its the HD2. Not because of the way that it runs Android, or because that's its a bit smaller. But because of the community that it has created. Never before have I seen so many people dedicated to develope, test, and take part in all kinds of porting and hacking. It is beatifull to see Android work so good on the phone even tho its miles away from being perfect.
It is stunning to see the hundreds if not thousands of ROM's developed for this one and only phone, where people has been so great at providing feedback, to the skilled developers that this community boosts.
And that's why that this phone wins. Because of you! You guys are all the best
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This is actually poetry, and I cannot agree more.
It's amazing to see all of these people working together to make this phone the best it can be, and I'm sure that as time progresses, Android on the HD2 will improve extensively, and I look forward to using it for day-to-day use.
I was also able to use a friends evo. For a few hours and ran various tests between evo and HD2 with desire v4. Their UI is definitely 25-50% smoother. Data speed was the same but the thing I noticed the most was UI smoothness and battery life. We went to Disney fully charged. And left at the same time, he still had power while I had all background services shut off and I've lost power. Total off charger time was 6 1/2 hrs
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But which phone is the winner? For me its the HD2. Not because of the way that it runs Android, or because that's its a bit smaller. But because of the community that it has created. Never before have I seen so many people dedicated to develope, test, and take part in all kinds of porting and hacking. It is beatifull to see Android work so good on the phone even tho its miles away from being perfect.
It is stunning to see the hundreds if not thousands of ROM's developed for this one and only phone, where people has been so great at providing feedback, to the skilled developers that this community boosts.
And that's why that this phone wins. Because of you! You guys are all the best
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Raary101 said:
This is actually poetry, and I cannot agree more.
It's amazing to see all of these people working together to make this phone the best it can be, and I'm sure that as time progresses, Android on the HD2 will improve extensively, and I look forward to using it for day-to-day use.
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awesome statement there. i personally have been part of a group much like this. it for a device called the casio be300. it was a pda that didn't get a windows os, and we all felt screwed... like the hd2 not getting win7phone. like this group, we all banded together and and flashed the nand to run all sorts of OSs. this whole experience for me is like a dream of the past. it is great!
i've never been so happy i made the right choice in getting this phone over some of the other t-mobile phones i was looking at. =)
What I don't understand is the large difference in 'smoothness' of the UI between HD2 and native android devices, such as Evo/Desire.
People will say, 'it's beta!' or 'it's running from sdcard instead of nand!', but: HW3D is already implemented (and finished as far as I know), and running from slow storage (sd card) cannot make any difference. When scrolling through the icons, GPU+CPU will be used, not storage.
So what can be causing this 'slow' UI on the HD2 vs Evo?
Drazix said:
What I don't understand is the large difference in 'smoothness' of the UI between HD2 and native android devices, such as Evo/Desire.
People will say, 'it's beta!' or 'it's running from sdcard instead of nand!', but: HW3D is already implemented (and finished as far as I know), and running from slow storage (sd card) cannot make any difference. When scrolling through the icons, GPU+CPU will be used, not storage.
So what can be causing this 'slow' UI on the HD2 vs Evo?
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Running from sd card can and will make things run slower.. Nand is always faster than flash memory. And a lot of the drivers had to be constructed so they arent as optimized as they would have been had htc designed the phone for android in the first place.
Another thing about the slow UI, is the slow screen. HD2's screen got a pretty bad response time compared to many other devices, which is really a shame.
To see this yourself, when on the homescreen in Winmo with sense, use the slider in the bottom of the screen. Slide it forwards and backwards and notice the delay.
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Another thing about the slow UI, is the slow screen. HD2's screen got a pretty bad response time compared to many other devices, which is really a shame.
To see this yourself, when on the homescreen in Winmo with sense, use the slider in the bottom of the screen. Slide it forwards and backwards and notice the delay.
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dont you think that could be solved by a registry edit.
Stoferr said:
Another thing about the slow UI, is the slow screen. HD2's screen got a pretty bad response time compared to many other devices, which is really a shame.
To see this yourself, when on the homescreen in Winmo with sense, use the slider in the bottom of the screen. Slide it forwards and backwards and notice the delay.
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OT Alert: You want fast scrolling between sense tabs in WinMo? Cleanex Ultra Awesome has the fastest speeds known to Sense and HD2
But I digress...
EVO looks like a beast of a device... best Android hardware out there is the Samsung Galaxy S, imho...
Love the "best of both worlds" we have with our HD2 though
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Short version here is that I already have a HD2 and currently playing with the Android builds that are available.
Now I've just been given a Samsung Galaxy S with an upgrade (get it in 2 days) and I must admit as much as I'd like to keep it, there's a part of me that thinks that the HD2 is the better phone, especially as it looks like we are going to have a stable droid build in the near future (devs really are top folk).
So, take the phone built for droid or stick with what I have and hope droid gets perfected on it in the near future?
Opinions welcome
todd69 said:
Short version here is that I already have a HD2 and currently playing with the Android builds that are available.
Now I've just been given a Samsung Galaxy S with an upgrade (get it in 2 days) and I must admit as much as I'd like to keep it, there's a part of me that thinks that the HD2 is the better phone, especially as it looks like we are going to have a stable droid build in the near future (devs really are top folk).
So, take the phone built for droid or stick with what I have and hope droid gets perfected on it in the near future?
Opinions welcome
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It's hard to say. It really depends what OS you favor. If you like WM (as a backup) and Android (albeit buggy and laggy) on the same phone, take the HD2. If you want Android to be the primary OS, take the Galaxy S.
Keep in mind the Android port won't be perfect (at least for a while). For example, the Rhodium (Touch Pro2) port has been going on longer than the HD2 port, and it still has many bugs and features that do not work.
If you really want both devices, why not keep both and alternate phones each week?
I'm personally not ready to switch to Android as a full-time OS on a phone. WM has a lot of tweakability inside and Android still has its time to mature.
See where you are coming from and if I can get away with it may just sneak the samsung away
I've always like WM over the years and love the tweaking abilities with it, I think I'm just a bit tired of it on the HD2 as IMO you still need a stylus when you get past the front end, well I do with my big chubby fingers LOL
Android is nice, had a Nexus One when they first came out but found the camera and a few other things lacking so sold it pretty quick.
To many toys and not enough time I suppose LOL
Well, atm it's very hard to say. As I own a HD2 and like it still very much, I'm not planning to buy a new toy within the next, let's say 3 months. After that I will definitely buy an Android-phone because WP7 sucks already D) and the HD2 will stay THE WM6.5.x-phone - maybe forever.
If I had to buy an Android-phone tomorrow, I'd buy a Galaxy S (Pro) - but I think I would sell it again for the next Android-flagship by HTC, what ever it will be.
if you like to have a faster gpu than go for the galaxy S because it has the fastest gpu units of all smartphones today
Personally I am biased towards android. If it werent for the 4.3 inch display of the hd2 I would have dumped it long ago. Windows mobile is so mature that At the end of this year windows phone 7 is coming out. People have all but stopped developing stuff for it. It still has a great community in xda but frankly windows mobile interface sucks. Maybe I'm a dunce but I could never find proper twitter widgets.
Android isnt perfect on the hd2 and may never be. But lets see I think bluetooth and the camcorder mode doesnt work. Also call quality may be lacking. All things I Can deal with.
Personally Ive seen the samsung captivate which I believe is the At&t variant and I love it. Save yourself and stick which the phone thats native android.
I played with AT&T's version at the store. I don't like Samsung's UI much, but the screen rocks. I didn't notice the screen size difference much.
Deal breaker for me is actually the charging port. It's microUSB with a slick slide cover, BUT THEY PUT IT ON THE TOP OF THE PHONE!!! What engineer thought that was a good idea?
If the Android port weren't going so well and if weren't for the dumb port placement, I'd be on the Galaxy S series now.
hd2 vs galaxy s
hi all, just to give my input on the subject...
First of all HD2 is the only device that is capable of running both WM and Android.
I got the galaxy for my wife, and am not impressed, here is why:
1. build quality sucks, it feels flimzy, all plastic with no substance.
2. doesn't sink with Samsung software
3. Samsung support sucks.
4. android is not the latest build (apparently it will get upgraded)
5. with original ROM it is slow and chunky.
6. GPS has issues.
7. UI looks like certain fruty devices available in black or white...
I have HD2 with many twins, Energy ROM, and also running Android as a second boot.
Android runs smooth with minor issues: no GPS, BT,and not very loud. Camcorder works fine with third party app. so does flashlight. For those worring about Windows needing a stylus, well how often do you see the original UI? plus what version r u running? HD2 is in my opinion the best of both worlds and the best phone to by. it is definitely for people with some comp knoledge rather than the push the button mentality.
I'm sticking with winmo until WP7 matures a little.
Yes WinMo is approaching the end of its cycle, but since it is, most anything you could think you want is available.
Just installed a PSX emulator and am playing Final Fantasy 7 right now.
I can watch just about any type of video.
More music options than I can count.
I guess for me, the "if it ain't broke don't fix it" mentality applies.
well after 24hrs with the Galaxy, the HD2 is going
Tough choice as I love playing with these new droid builds coming out, they really are great but after spending the day with a full blown droid phone, god it's fast, seems a lot faster than the Nexus One I had, weird!
No issues with satnav for me and UI suits me fine.
I'll be sad to finally say goodbye to WM, it's been a gadget lovers delight over the years
Thanks for the input all
If its an upgrade why cant you have both?
Ive never had to give back my old phone when I got an upgrade.......
I was looking forward to having a shiny new android beast to sit next to my HD2 when the time comes.......you've got me worried now.
If T Mobile think they're gonna take my HD2 away they've got another thing coming.......
LOL, no don't have to give the phone back but would rather sell it than have it sitting in the spare drawer.
Eh, with the HD2 in a month or two I think its Android build will have the same performance as the Nexus One and similar phones. Plus, it will be the only 4.3 inch screen phone on T-mobile with Android.
Yeah, the Galaxy still has a better GPU, but I have never played a single 3D game on my HD2 really. Probably because it has no amazing 3D games but...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=7500539#post7500539
Definitely Galaxy S! I Have HD2 for 6 months now and I've already flashed the device like 212109863489458 times (lol) and it' s getting annoying i have to flash my device every 2 weeks because of bugs. I don' t think that' s the case with android + The hummingbird processor beats snapdragon. I've seen benchmarks which shows an unreleased new HTC phone (everybody speculating about dual core snapdragon) saying that it' s a super fast new HTC. And guess what... The Galaxy S even beats that one in benchmarks... Don' t get me wrong I love my [email protected], best phone I' ve ever had to this date, but the combination Hummingbird and android (soon 2.2) is a better choice I think.. Hope this helps.
galaxy s doesnt even have a flash ! lol! gay phone !
Hello there!!. i am doubt on this question too. I have a hd2 from 8 months ago, and ... really, hd2 ROCKS!. but have some inconvenients like battery life, or wm6.5 and that this will not be upgradable to wm7. Given, android runs really fine but the future of this os on my hd2 makes me doubt a little.
So, what about the galaxy S battery life, gps, photo positioning, screens ...?, it will be possible to flash futures ROMS of android like Android 3.0, i´m ready to say good to WM. But for the moment, i know that on my hd2 it will be possible to flash, maybe, all futures androids roms, whatever they are.
Well I decided to sell the Galaxy S, really nice phone but I much prefer being able to pick and choose the android builds and WM roms to play with, if you like that kind of thing, stay with the HD2.
Now that I have setcpu set up on my android build the battery life is very good.
GPS on the galaxy can be a bit iffy, read the forums and you'll see lots of issues, the camera isn't as good as the HD2 and the lack of flash is a definite issue IMO.
The screen is stunning on the galaxy but the HD2 screen size makes up for this.
coolbeer1990 said:
galaxy s doesnt even have a flash ! lol! gay phone !
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Don't be so quick to judge a book by its cover.
Camera flash on the HD2 (and other devices) only work up to a certain distance -- then, the flash becomes useless as it is unable to provide enough light to illuminate the surroundings. The HD2's "night mode" is, imo, horrible; my older, cheaper camera phones had better "night mode" pictures. As seen in the photos in the link, the Galaxy S's "night mode" allows it to capture images at long distances, without flash, and the image is decent.
Its camera -- or more accurately, its camcorder-- actually has a slight advantage over the HD2's. Android OS allows the phone to capture HD videos, whereas WM has limitations that prevent the HD2 from recording in HD. I've seen some videos shot by the Galaxy S, and I have to say I'm very impressed.
That´s ok. But now, the QUESTION. Will be the Galaxy S upgradable to android 3.0?? This could be a GOOD FAVOUR POINT for this device, and if it couldnt be, sucks. Anyone know something about this?? my HD2 is right now open to all this supposed SO roms.
What the hell ... hahaha
Hi dear, I'm a possible buyer of T-Mobile HTC HD2 since I heard T-Mobile one is faster than International one in terms of a size of rom and ram memory.
By the way, I'm still wondering if HD2 works perfectly and smoothly with the custom roms in this forum like true android phones(galaxy s, desire, evo etc...)
I'm currently using galaxy s but I'm planning to sell it.
Is it good decision to get hd2 instead of galaxy s?
Please give me any advice...
I like to handle or play with the phone
I think I will not be bored with hd2 that's why I try to sell Galaxy s and get hd2 although galaxy s is newer and android based phone.
Many questions are here! Please come and give me the answer.
Galaxy S vs HD2... is a close tossup.
I'd only do it if you 1) were extremely tech savvy... if you aren't to the point where compiling your own kernel object doesn't seem like like an insurmountable hurdle, the HD2 will be painful for you. 2) really want the extra screen size and 3) need the difference in money that you'd net from selling the galaxy s properly.
Right now, unless you are lucky enough to have an sd card that doesnt cause sleep of death issues (which, I've noticed, is more likely amongst those using non-SDHC cards), the phone is 'not ready for prime-time' imo. Maybe NAND will change that, maybe not.
I went from a Cliq to the HD2, and do not regret the decision at all, even though I have half the storage space that I had before, as I am forced to use a 2gb card to avoid SOD. But the Cliq was a really terrible phone, and I've heard nothing but good things about the Galaxy S.
just my 2 cents.
I'm not extremely tech savvy, but number 2) and 3) are suitable for me. I want hd2 since it has better design and big screen(even though the resolution and the color expression are not as fantastic as galaxy s.)
I already ordered T-Mobile HTC HD2 with 16 gb sd memory card. Is it okay to use?
It's sandisk. it is good?
I'd go with an actual Android as oppose to and HD2, unless price is a concern. A port is a port after all...
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
Better. I swear. Better.
My cousin that's staying with me has the Vibrant, and I swear, it isn't as good as the HD2.
Advantages of the Vibrant over the HD2:
-HD video recording
-AMOLED screen
-Better battery life
-1Ghz A4 Cortex Hummingbird CPU
Yup. That's all I can think of.
Advantages of HD2 over Vibrant (in my opinion):
-Heavier, more solid feeling (not just plastic)
-Larger screen (4.3" vs 4.0")
-Glass screen, nearly unscratchable.
-Flexibility (many different Android builds)
-Froyo (U.S. Vibrants are stuck with Eclair until the update rolls out later this month)
-Gingerbread (we will probably have it on before the Vibrant, if it gets it at all)
-Faster (unless you root the Vibrant and change the file system, which my cousin does not want to do)
I can probably go on and on, and I also wasn't comparing to other smartphones on the market as I haven't used them much.
Anyway, most of the HD2's advantages are due to the developers here. It can't get any better than XDA.
(it is my opinion stated above, some people might think differently)
Oh, how come?
I read one comment that actually hd2 is faster than actual android phones.
I am a Samsung Vibrant user and picked up a HD2 to tinker on with Android since updates for the samsung are painfully slow for me coming from a Nexus.
I am now in love with the HD2 and use it daily running android. My Vibrant is sitting on the counter with a dead battery collecting dust. If you love to tinker and like to try a nice huge variety of roms you will love the HD2.
Dont get me wrong the Samsung is a wonderful phone but the HD2 is a tinkers dream.
18.4009
Fantastic!
psykick5 said:
Better. I swear. Better.
My cousin that's staying with me has the Vibrant, and I swear, it isn't as good as the HD2.
Advantages of the Vibrant over the HD2:
-HD video recording
-AMOLED screen
-Better battery life
-1Ghz A4 Cortex Hummingbird CPU
Yup. That's all I can think of.
Advantages of HD2 over Vibrant (in my opinion):
-Heavier, more solid feeling (not just plastic)
-Larger screen (4.3" vs 4.0")
-Glass screen, nearly unscratchable.
-Flexibility (many different Android builds)
-Froyo (U.S. Vibrants are stuck with Eclair until the update rolls out later this month)
-Gingerbread (we will probably have it on before the Vibrant, if it gets it at all)
-Faster (unless you root the Vibrant and change the file system, which my cousin does not want to do)
I can probably go on and on, and I also wasn't comparing to other smartphones on the market as I haven't used them much.
Anyway, most of the HD2's advantages are due to the developers here. It can't get any better than XDA.
(it is my opinion stated above, some people might think differently)
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Haha Great Information psykick5, I must go with HD2 then!
By the way,
What is the most stable combination roms for android, psykick5??
18.4009 said:
I am a Samsung Vibrant user and picked up a HD2 to tinker on with Android since updates for the samsung are painfully slow for me coming from a Nexus.
I am now in love with the HD2 and use it daily running android. My Vibrant is sitting on the counter with a dead battery collecting dust. If you love to tinker and like to try a nice huge variety of roms you will love the HD2.
Dont get me wrong the Samsung is a wonderful phone but the HD2 is a tinkers dream.
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That's what I want to be. Could you give me the best combination for HD2(Most stable and smooth)?
im using elegancia for winmo, froyostone for android
works like a charm with minimal issues..
radio rom 2.14 and 2.15 are most stable with battery usage fixed
there are many other combinations though
enneract said:
I'd only do it if you 1) were extremely tech savvy... if you aren't to the point where compiling your own kernel object doesn't seem like like an insurmountable hurdle, the HD2 will be painful for you. 2) really want the extra screen size and 3) need the difference in money that you'd net from selling the galaxy s properly.
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I disagree that you have to be super duper tech savvy to do this kind of stuff. A little bit of linux background doesn't hurt, but if you're comfortable with with tinkering and willing to learn and mess around some, Android on the HD2 isn't that big of a project. On the other hand, there is a fair amount trial/error and therefore a fair amount of time needs to be invested into getting your perfect Android build.
The hd2 will probably never run android as well as a galaxy s. It will always be a hacked on version of android on the hd2. A rooted galaxy with all the hacks you will find here on xda will make the galaxy run much smoother and better than the hd2. And i'm sure you will get gingerbread rom as quick as the hd2 does here on xda. It may not be official, but neither is any of hd2s builds. If you want to run android full time, stick with a native android phone. If you want to also have winmo on your phone, then the hd2 is a good choice... but don't expect to run android better on a hd2. The galaxy has a better CPU and gpu ... when you root it and apply fixes found here on xda, it will run android better than any current phone out there... except maybe the desire HD.
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
I'm using 2.15 ROM with ChunkyDroidROM and random Mdeejay builds.
One thing to remember with an HD2 with Android, if anything goes wrong, don't be angry, it wasn't supposed to have this anyway.
Cheers.
Enjoy the HD2
(above post is quite true, but I enjoy the flexibility. Oh, don't forget WP7 could be in the pipeline )
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Oh, how come?
I read one comment that actually hd2 is faster than actual android phones.
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I wouldn't say faster than all of the Android phones... one of the fastest two maybe - then yea...
Quadrant so far has been the benchmarking tool for lots of phones... Galaxy kills with points over 2000 but that's only it scores high on 3D Open GL which is not utilized by the Android OS at all - therefore, yea - HD2 is one of two fastest Android phones - and it runs it from the SD Card ... I can't wait for NAND version just to get rid of this WinMo junk
Well I sold my galaxy s and bought an hd2 almost brand new and a used psp handheld with the money, I will never look back.
The galaxy s at first I loved that bright vibrant screen and the devices light weight, but soon even both of these points annoyed, the screen brightness could never be adjusted low enough for nighttime reading, the galaxy s had no flash for the camera, which I use a lot on the hd2 also this is such a powerful torch a well, but probably the biggest problem I found with my galaxy s was the unreliable gps and mine was better than some.
With the hd2 you get extreme flexibility the ability to try many many android builds you can mix and match your windows mobile roms with your android builds and play about with all kind of radios, you can try sense builds, standard builds to highly customised builds, one day on the horizon hd2 will get its chance to be a stand along android with the nand development, it might even get windows 7, my preferred choice of build is now mdeejays, evo warm with kernel 7.6, with a few tweaks and set cpui have this running all the time occasionally visiting windows mobile for the odd application that android doesn't have.
A lot of people will give you different combinations that work, it's all a case of "your mileage may vary".
I for instance run Chuckys Tabtastic GTX rom for WinMo and MDeeJey's Froyo HD 3.6 and everything is smooth as butter, so long as you don't mind the camera not working. (That's because the actual rom it's built from doesn't have the camera code available yet, but it will come soonish).
So long as you are willing to do a lot of initial reading and have patience before you start flashing anything you should love the capabilities and flexibility of the HD2. After all, pretty soon you should also be able to run MeeGo on it as well (and who knows, maybe even Windows Phone 7??)
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I'm using 2.15 ROM with ChunkyDroidROM and random Mdeejay builds.
One thing to remember with an HD2 with Android, if anything goes wrong, don't be angry, it wasn't supposed to have this anyway.
Cheers.
Enjoy the HD2
(above post is quite true, but I enjoy the flexibility. Oh, don't forget WP7 could be in the pipeline )
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That's what I expect from HD2.
I know it has more flexible than any other phones.
I bet I would like my HD2 more than galaxy s.
Nothing interest on my galaxy s actually... especially UI... hu
Cool!
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Well I sold my galaxy s and bought an hd2 almost brand new and a used psp handheld with the money, I will never look back.
The galaxy s at first I loved that bright vibrant screen and the devices light weight, but soon even both of these points annoyed, the screen brightness could never be adjusted low enough for nighttime reading, the galaxy s had no flash for the camera, which I use a lot on the hd2 also this is such a powerful torch a well, but probably the biggest problem I found with my galaxy s was the unreliable gps and mine was better than some.
With the hd2 you get extreme flexibility the ability to try many many android builds you can mix and match your windows mobile roms with your android builds and play about with all kind of radios, you can try sense builds, standard builds to highly customised builds, one day on the horizon hd2 will get its chance to be a stand along android with the nand development, it might even get windows 7, my preferred choice of build is now mdeejays, evo warm with kernel 7.6, with a few tweaks and set cpui have this running all the time occasionally visiting windows mobile for the odd application that android doesn't have.
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Cool answer thanks, THUDUK. I'm on the same way as you.
I like to play with my phone but galaxy s is not really customizable..
I mean it can't available to use HTC phone's roms! haha
I love sense UI and I expect hd2 to will get windows 7 rom.
I won't look back like you THUDUK.
Meego?
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A lot of people will give you different combinations that work, it's all a case of "your mileage may vary".
I for instance run Chuckys Tabtastic GTX rom for WinMo and MDeeJey's Froyo HD 3.6 and everything is smooth as butter, so long as you don't mind the camera not working. (That's because the actual rom it's built from doesn't have the camera code available yet, but it will come soonish).
So long as you are willing to do a lot of initial reading and have patience before you start flashing anything you should love the capabilities and flexibility of the HD2. After all, pretty soon you should also be able to run MeeGo on it as well (and who knows, maybe even Windows Phone 7??)
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Thanks for answer Reno,
I used to use N900 which has Meego OS. But I don't think it's as good as other OS... So slow on N900 (I think due to resistive touch screen and bad CPU)..
I'm expecting HD2 will get WM7 OS..
By the way, my new HD2 is T-Mobile version..
what do I have to install in order to install the roms on my phone?
the only issue i face with android on hd2 is light sensor i can't get it t work good
[Q] Android on HD2 - how fast and stable is it compared to "official" Android phones?
I had great experiences with "Official" Android phones - the Nexus One, Cliq, Samsung Vibrant, and now the MyTouch 4G. Something that they all seem to lack though - that big, beautiful screen on the HD2!
So I have to ask - in it's current form, how does the speed and stability of Android on the HD2 stack up against "Official" Android phones with similar hardware specs?
Just curious - not trying to start a flame war or anything, just looking to get educated a little!
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cant compare it as i do not have a strictly android phone but android on my hd2 is pretty fast and stable. if i were to guess, its just as fast and stable. only con that i see is fast battery drain but from what i saw from my friend incredible, it didnt have good battery life with everything turned on (data and locatin services turned on)
if i didnt own an hd2 already, i wouldnt hessitate to buy an android phone if it had all the features i wanted on it.
I'd say the HD2 in its current form (With most ROMs) is as stable and fast(er in some cases) than stock android phones... Although if you want a real android phone with the 4.3 inch screen, get the desire HD... The HD2 is a tinkerer's phone, so if you don't like messing around with your phone alot, I wouldn't bother.
I have a Vibrant. IMHO the HD2 is as roughly as good as the Vibrant (with the lagfixes) and BETTER in the battery life area under heavy use - the latter is due to the Vibrant's AMOLED screen, which is a power pig.
The Vibrant is a bit smoother, but I like the HD2 better - running Android. The Vibrant is currently in a drawer.
One problem that vexes - the HD2 will not send or receive an MMS when connected via Wifi. None of the builds thus far have fixed this. It's the only serious problem I have with Android on the HD2 at the present time.
I have demoed following Android phones and found NONE to be even comparable to how smooth Android operated on HD2 phone. Among the phones are Nexus One, G1, G2, MyTouch series (all phones), Desire, Hero, and few more I don't know the name but were from Sprint and Verizon Carrier in USA.
I am really not kidding - any phone I tried it was not smooth whatsoever. Scores on Quadrant really do not show everything but if it's to judge by the scores even, Galaxy S Series is the only phone to score higher but still does not have smoothness I have with my HD2.
Battery wise, I got it to deliver 3-6mA and that is plenty for me and my usage (over 24hrs)... Can battery be better? Well, 1230mAh capacity I think delivers the best posible. If it was 1500mAh like in Galxy phones it would be better as well
I don't know what you guys are smoking. I have played with a vibrant and an incredible. When I leap with an incredible, it's smooth. When I leap with my HD2, it takes 3 seconds for it to leap and its not even remotely smooth. Android on the HD2 is far from smooth. Secondly, you claim that the vibrant is lacking a big beautiful screen? HD2 is only .3 inches longer diagonally, and you can barely use the HD2 when it is sunny outside. The screen on the vibrant is what every android phone deserves to have.
Hopefully NAND can fix the lag issues, which will probably be released when America has another non white president.
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I don't know what you guys are smoking. I have played with a vibrant and an incredible. When I leap with an incredible, it's smooth. When I leap with my HD2, it takes 3 seconds for it to leap and its not even remotely smooth. Android on the HD2 is far from smooth. Secondly, you claim that the vibrant is lacking a big beautiful screen? HD2 is only .3 inches longer diagonally, and you can barely use the HD2 when it is sunny outside. The screen on the vibrant is what every android phone deserves to have.
Hopefully NAND can fix the lag issues, which will probably be released when America has another non white president.
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I forgot to add that it really depends what build you have, what WinMo ROM and Radio you paired up with that build and what apps you use. Any phone OS can be choppy - important is to know what slows it down and eliminate those issues to get smoothness
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I forgot to add that it really depends what build you have, what WinMo ROM and Radio you paired up with that build and what apps you use. Any phone OS can be choppy - important is to know what slows it down and eliminate those issues to get smoothness
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Energy ROM, VBN, Chuckydroid, OZDROID, 2.12 or 2.15, shubcraft, Mdj, froyostone, (I'm going to try biffmod next week because I can't stand HTC Sense) all the same results. Though I do have over 50 applications installed on my android build.
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I forgot to add that it really depends what build you have, what WinMo ROM and Radio you paired up with that build and what apps you use. Any phone OS can be choppy - important is to know what slows it down and eliminate those issues to get smoothness
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Also, I'm guessing that the smoothness you fail not to see in a Galaxy S phone that you do see in a HD2 is probably related to android 2.1 and touchwiz which cyanogenmod will fix soon enough.
I bet you that g2 is probably the smoothest phone running when it has cyanogenmod6.1 RC3 running.
Never really got on with my galaxy s the bright colourful screen was nice, but it was still pretty useless in full sunlight, even worse it was over bright in bed at night reading ebooks, you could never lower the brightness enough, the gps was sometimes ok but most of the time inaccurate, cheap plastic build, no camera flash...and I spent a lot of time trying to get rid of the annoying lags.
Now on the other hand my hd2 runs both windows and android very well if set up correctly, the screen is noticeably bigger even though on paper its only 0.4 inch larger, you have an amazing array of choice from wm roms to every kind of android build including sense instead of the awful touchwiz, the camera flash is perfect for photos as well as doubling up as a torch, I know have my hd2 predominantly running android its fast smooth and runs practically every app and game available without a glitch, the gps is far superior to the galaxy s setup and the build quality is solid and well manufactured.
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Never really got on with my galaxy s the bright colourful screen was nice, but it was still pretty useless in full sunlight, even worse it was over bright in bed at night reading ebooks, you could never lower the brightness enough, the gps was sometimes ok but most of the time inaccurate, cheap plastic build, no camera flash...and I spent a lot of time trying to get rid of the annoying lags.
Now on the other hand my hd2 runs both windows and android very well if set up correctly, the screen is noticeably bigger even though on paper its only 0.4 inch larger, you have an amazing array of choice from wm roms to every kind of android build including sense instead of the awful touchwiz, the camera flash is perfect for photos as well as doubling up as a torch, I know have my hd2 predominantly running android its fast smooth and runs practically every app and game available without a glitch, the gps is far superior to the galaxy s setup and the build quality is solid and well manufactured.
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Couldn't agree more. The thing I like most about the HD2 is the pure "tinkerability". For me the fun is in trying all the different ROMS, and being able to dual boot the phone.
With Magldr coming soon (we hope) it will be even better
It feels faster than my father's Galaxy S. And I clock my HD2 at 768 MHz max (as did Windows Mobile) because at higher clock rates the screen gets too hot.
for me, i am "supporting" 5 HTC HD2 owners plus my wife and mine = 7 HD2's. When i used to run WinMO i'd get "hey can you help me with....?" phone calls all the time. Now i have converted everyone to Android on the HD2 running chuckyDROID rom, 2.15.50.14 radio adn bluetopia 1.03 with a hastarin 8.2 kernel. I have not gotten "service" calls for 3 weeks now. LOL, i do this for fun for my friends and family. Other friends that dont like tmobile have went with the Evo, vibrant and Droid X have always referenced the HD2 as the "standard". I will be using my HD2 for a while until something better comes out. Doenst look like it will be anytime soon, at least for another 6 months or longer. With bluetooth, gps, and 2 emails accounts checking every 15 minutes i get 9 hrs or more out of my phone, also i make about 100 minutes of calls a day minimum.
sounds like i should finally set up a propper android hd2 build xD but im soooooo lazy xD
Fix PPP data drops, MMS issues people have been experiencing, battery drain and give me Nand and ill be using Android on my phone as long as possible. I'm reluctant to give the phone up because of the screen size but I need the stability in the above mentioned areas.
As it is, the newest build I'm using has excellent data connection using 3g with maybe 1 or 2 drops so so far so I'm guessing that will be a thing of the past soon.
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well.. right now im using a nexus one, to try out how it runs
in a way.. i like it more. the screen size is just hurting my eyes.. im wondering if, when i set up my hd2 correctly, can run that fast too... i should just finally stop being lazy i love my hd2 too much to exchange it with a nexy xD
I have a few Co workers with official android phones. Droid2, DroidX, and an Evo.
My HD2 runs smoother and faster than theirs.
My battery drains is just a little more than when I was using winmo. Bit enough to get me they the 10 hour work day with the usage.
I will not get another phone until T-Mobile gets another phone with a screen as big as the HD2.
I have been fully using android for about 2 months now and about 3 weeks with the Nexus build.
I do not like sense.
I have not had any data drops at all. GpS locks within 30 seconds.
No screen freezes.
Everything is working perfect enough for what I do on daily use.
I installed hadcent for text and mom's ans I can send and receive full size pics.
Just my findings.
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I've got a lot of friends with various android phones... the HD2 can easily run android smoother and quicker than a native android phone that is still running a stock rom... as long as you take the time setting up your HD2 correctly and work out any bugs you come across. But almost any android phone (with similar specs to the HD2) I've seen that the owner took the time to root, put custom rom on, and tweak to improve performance can out-perform the HD2 without question. Everyone compares the HD2 to stock android phones and says how the HD2 runs android better, but it's not really a fair comparison because the HD2 isn't stock... it's tweaked and has custom roms that are rooted, so if comparing to other android phones, they should also be tweaked and rooted with custom roms to be fair and accurate with the comparison. My friend with an original desire has android running amazingly fast, smooth and stable... much more than I've ever seen anyones HD2.
I always tell everyone if you plan on only running android, you will be better off with a native android phone. There are custom roms for native android phones, too, so you can play with different build like you can with the HD2. Personally, I still like using winmo a lot, especially with the new cht2.0, so I wouldn't trade my HD2 for any other phone right now. And we will have a taste of WP7 soon. So if you also want to use winmo and be able to play with wp7, then the HD2 is great. If you're just planning on using android, go for the Desire HD or another native android phone, because with tweaks found on these forums, I'm pretty sure that you will always be able to run android more stable and smooth on a native android phone.
couple of my friends have the desire HD,ive played with both and tbh, hd2 seems to run android better, but I will still get a desire when i upgrade, galexy doesnt even come close....no flash....funny screen, no thanks!
Ok, so, I think we've established that the speeds are close to that of a native Android phone, if not better in some cases... Great!
Now - lets talk battery life.
On my Nexus One I was getting roughly 16-18 hours.
On my HTC G2 I am currently getting roughly the same.
On a Samsung Vibrant I was getting probably almost consistently 18 hours. (Go figure? I never understood why - everyone else is getting worse than the N1 and G2)
How does your battery life compare to that of native Android phones you have used (using them roughly the same amount)?
Okay so right now I'm using the evo shift but I'm about to switch to cincinatibell and was thinking of getting a hd2 because I'm an obessive flasher but I was wondering is the phone fast? Like my evo I've herd rumors that the speed is rediculously good like just as good as my shift I don't actually know how true that is what kinda changes would I be looking at if I did this would it be worth it I mean honestly is it as beast as the rumors I've heard or is it a p.o.s and I should concider a different phone
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Is it worth it ? depends on what it costs & what other device options are on offer.
HD2 is good for a cheap price, plenty of fun for a flashing junkie.
Downsides are: 1100Mah battery, no TV out, screen & motherboard issues are too common, sound quality is not the best, device can get hot very quickly.
I got my T-Mob version cheap but if paying close to full price it is out classed by other options.
1230 mAh battery, not 1100.
It's a good buy for a flashing junkie. And yeah, it's fast. It's the best Windows Mobile device and very good and fast Android/WP7 device. Of course there are faster and newer (and more expensive and not capable of multi OS), but there are also tons of slower devices.
Mister B pointed out downsides so... yeah, that's pretty it.
It would definitely satisy for disorder. On the note on whether it is fast. Yes it is fast, however your evo 3d should be a bit snappier.
To be honest, you won't find another phone with all these opportunities like the HD2, so if it's a ride you're looking for, this will give you one hell of a.
In terms of the best performance, you should look else where I suppose.
So its a great phone but like all phones has its issues (undrstandable) so aslong as I get it cheap then yes its worth it if not then find something else gotcha thanks every1 you helped me and I think I will be joining your community very soon jw is the android fully functional? And is it swype compatible?
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Swype is fully functional and Android, well, that depends on the ROM you pick. But on the whole, Android works very well on the HD2 (as does WP7 too).
I am on my second HD2, the first one being stolen after 6 months. I didn't want any other phone as a replacement. It HAD to be another HD2. For me, it's the best phone I have ever had and the most versatile that has ever been built. For a flash-junkie, it has to be the best phone in the world! Android either via SD or NAND, WP7 NAND, Ubuntu and Meego (the latter still rather wobbly) and of course WinMo 6.5 factory installed. You can still get them new via Amazon and co, but expect to pay about €450 - not cheap for a phone that is over 18 months on the market. Just goes to show that it is still a desirable piece of kit
seeing as you said your a flash junky like most of us here than def go for it. i barely got mine thursday after school and im coming from a captivate and you would have to be doing some really intensive stuff to see any lag what so ever and since your coming from a evo shift there really isnt much of a difference between it and the hd2 plus you can dual boot!!!!
not worth every cent (hryvnia) i paid.
i keed, i keed =P
Many good quality used ones from $200 - $250. Well worth it. This is the only handset I need till SGSII hits TMOUS.
And yes they can be fast with the Android ROMs
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HD2 is a very nice phone. If you want to try different operating systems, it's the only choice. If you already know what you want, choose a new one with native operating system of your choice, if possible, dual core.
Used phone seems to be a very good choice nowadays, because people update their phones much too often.
It's awesome, I've switched to HD7, Vibrant and Nexus 1, and the HD2 buries them all in terms of flexibility, power and is a very well constructed device, glass and metal. I don't understand why folk say Evo has more power, isn't it the same hardware wise? The new 2ghz phones aren't valid yet as I read
most app's don't utilize the processor...besides, you know once you buy virtually any other phone, it will be stuck on gingerbread and have far less roms than XDA has for the HD2...
I love my HD2 and will for a long time coming..
Correction, they don't utilize the full power of the processor. Meaning whilst its not operating both cores, both are still being used, just one is a helper.
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It's awesome, I've switched to HD7, Vibrant and Nexus 1, and the HD2 buries them all in terms of flexibility, power and is a very well constructed device, glass and metal. I don't understand why folk say Evo has more power, isn't it the same hardware wise? The new 2ghz phones aren't valid yet as I read
most app's don't utilize the processor...besides, you know once you buy virtually any other phone, it will be stuck on gingerbread and have far less roms than XDA has for the HD2...
I love my HD2 and will for a long time coming..
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Very well said, I will hold onto mine until it completely dies. Then I eill still try to fix it if repair parts are still avaliable.
At the OP, the HD2 is the beast you have read about. The HD2 falls short of nothing except maybe undo able hardware mods like no font facing camera and no TV out. It can handle almost anything you throw at it software wize and hang right in there with the native devices of what ever OS you use with it. I would dare say ot was the introduction device and is the intruduction device for several people who knew nothing ofcthe mobile development community and giving some pretty awsome crash courses. I am ome myself, now I know a good bit about Windows Mobile, learning like a ton about Android right now, and will try Windows Phone 7 eventually. I use Android for my daily driver now. I do not think my life would be the same without my HD2 now.
Much as I like my hd2, there are a couple of drawbacks: 65k dual touch screen & shonky GPS. Battery could be bigger too, but that goes for most androids.
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I just started using the HD2 with Android and I'm blown away. My house mate wants to swap his iphone 4. I love the voice commands with google. Swype is amazing. I've used the Navigation feature which worked right away. It seems like there is nothing the phone can't do, coming from a Blackberry perspective.
I find that the phone is very fast.
i own an hd2. i tried the stock rom, customized stock rom, and 2 android builds. as for android, the cam and camcorder suck, theyre not asd sharp as on the stock rom. battery on droid sucks too. and call quality is very bad.
on a customized rom, the call quality sucks, cam is horrible, and batt drains a lot, but it does look good. and this is what i dont understand. why is fluff taken out of a custom rom then its cam and batt suck?
on the stock rom, batt is better than custom rom and android. call quality sucks but a patch can reduce the static greatly. everything else works sharply and perfect. but, it lacks apps.. and this is what kills the phone.
hope this helps.
According to me, the only things that go against the phone are the fact that it has no front cam, the screen is just a 65k and the speaker could have been a wee bit louder. Everything else software related has been or will soon be sorted out by the good folks at XDA. If you can accept the hardware limitations, take the plunge man. This phone is a flash junkies dream.
My hd2 is my first smartphone (comming from a old nokia) i still use my hd2 as a normal 'call & be called' phone
litle by little im feeling comfortable with the bazillion options
i got it cheap for 150 euro (+- 200$) in original/clean state .
This is my second hd2 and it is well worth it...it is a very fast phone when flashed to android
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after my digitizer suddenly died out of nowhere and found out that this is a known issue to all HD2s, no its not worth it
Are you trying to decide if you should get an HTC Sensation and upgrade your HD2? Looking at those super awesome midnight deals over at T-Mobile.com for FREE sensations, and find it somewhat irresistible?
HAVE NO FEAR!
I have an HD2, and I just added a second line so my girlfriend could get the FREE Sensation, and I just spent a little bit playing around with both of them side-by-side.
They've very similar, I didn't really notice that big of a difference in speed between the phones. The brightness and vividness of the Sensation is of course much better, but it doesn't really "BLOW AWAY' the HD2. Don't get me wrong, it's a really nice display, but the qHD didn't make me gasp or anything. (unlike the SUPER AMOLED+).
In quadrant, she got 1440, and I got 1348. In speedtest.net, she got about 3.1 MB/s down, and I got 2.7 MB/s down.
The weight, thickness, height, and width are all about the same, with the Sensation being slivers less in each category.
The back of the Sensation is rounded, letting it sit in your hand better, but I think it also makes it feel less "sturdy". Maybe that's just because I had a rubber case on mine.
I was insanely jealous of her for the last few days while knowing that her phone was coming and she'd have a better phone than me, but honestly, now that I'm playing around with it a little bit, I'm not too worried. Sure, it has better technical specifications, dual core, more RAM, dual camera, better screen...ect... but it's nothing crazy awesome.
If you're on the fence on whether or not you should upgrade to the HTC Sensation or not, don't get me wrong; it's an amazing phone, just not "necessary".
Anyways, save a bit of your money, and instead just buy an extended battery for your HD2, or save up for the Galaxy S2 or Samsung Hercules, or whatever else is coming after that. I know I will be. Plus, with the incredible support by the community here for hacking new ROMs onto it, I'd stick with the HD2 for the time being.
Just my 2 cents. Hopefully you find this thread helpful.
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Are you trying to decide if you should get an HTC Sensation and upgrade your HD2? Looking at those super awesome midnight deals over at T-Mobile.com for FREE sensations, and find it somewhat irresistible?
HAVE NO FEAR!
I have an HD2, and I just added a second line so my girlfriend could get the FREE Sensation, and I just spent a little bit playing around with both of them side-by-side.
They've very similar, I didn't really notice that big of a difference in speed between the phones. The brightness and vividness of the Sensation is of course much better, but it doesn't really "BLOW AWAY' the HD2. Don't get me wrong, it's a really nice display, but the qHD didn't make me gasp or anything. (unlike the SUPER AMOLED+).
In quadrant, she got 1440, and I got 1348. In speedtest.net, she got about 3.1 MB/s down, and I got 2.7 MB/s down.
The weight, thickness, height, and width are all about the same, with the Sensation being slivers less in each category.
The back of the Sensation is rounded, letting it sit in your hand better, but I think it also makes it feel less "sturdy". Maybe that's just because I had a rubber case on mine.
I was insanely jealous of her for the last few days while knowing that her phone was coming and she'd have a better phone than me, but honestly, now that I'm playing around with it a little bit, I'm not too worried. Sure, it has better technical specifications, dual core, more RAM, dual camera, better screen...ect... but it's nothing crazy awesome.
If you're on the fence on whether or not you should upgrade to the HTC Sensation or not, don't get me wrong; it's an amazing phone, just not "necessary".
Anyways, save a bit of your money, and instead just buy an extended battery for your HD2, or save up for the Galaxy S2 or Samsung Hercules, or whatever else is coming after that. I know I will be. Plus, with the incredible support by the community here for hacking new ROMs onto it, I'd stick with the HD2 for the time being.
Just my 2 cents. Hopefully you find this thread helpful.
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I know exactly what you mean, yesterday i was with a friend that bought the S2, I was so jealous ), but only until we putted our phones side by side, there wasn´t a difference between speeds, the screen is much bright of course, but it feels somewhat artificial to me, the camera has very nice colors, more vivid than the HD2 runing Android, better but not huge difference, and what blowed me away was that my HD2 was faster to open some apps, I know that the his S2 is bone stock but that reminded me that the time to upgrade to something new hasn´t come yet, and when i started to boot 4 different roms my friend couldn´t believe it..
The HD2 is still a great phone..
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Are you trying to decide if you should get an HTC Sensation and upgrade your HD2? Looking at those super awesome midnight deals over at T-Mobile.com for FREE sensations, and find it somewhat irresistible?
HAVE NO FEAR!
I have an HD2, and I just added a second line so my girlfriend could get the FREE Sensation, and I just spent a little bit playing around with both of them side-by-side.
They've very similar, I didn't really notice that big of a difference in speed between the phones. The brightness and vividness of the Sensation is of course much better, but it doesn't really "BLOW AWAY' the HD2. Don't get me wrong, it's a really nice display, but the qHD didn't make me gasp or anything. (unlike the SUPER AMOLED+).
In quadrant, she got 1440, and I got 1348. In speedtest.net, she got about 3.1 MB/s down, and I got 2.7 MB/s down.
The weight, thickness, height, and width are all about the same, with the Sensation being slivers less in each category.
The back of the Sensation is rounded, letting it sit in your hand better, but I think it also makes it feel less "sturdy". Maybe that's just because I had a rubber case on mine.
I was insanely jealous of her for the last few days while knowing that her phone was coming and she'd have a better phone than me, but honestly, now that I'm playing around with it a little bit, I'm not too worried. Sure, it has better technical specifications, dual core, more RAM, dual camera, better screen...ect... but it's nothing crazy awesome.
If you're on the fence on whether or not you should upgrade to the HTC Sensation or not, don't get me wrong; it's an amazing phone, just not "necessary".
Anyways, save a bit of your money, and instead just buy an extended battery for your HD2, or save up for the Galaxy S2 or Samsung Hercules, or whatever else is coming after that. I know I will be. Plus, with the incredible support by the community here for hacking new ROMs onto it, I'd stick with the HD2 for the time being.
Just my 2 cents. Hopefully you find this thread helpful.
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So how's web browsing, pinch to zoom, scrolling when the page is loading (on default browser) & ofc, flash video/website loading times?
awesome post. Exactly the info I needed. Yeah, waiting is the best bet (if you can wait)
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So how's web browsing, pinch to zoom, scrolling when the page is loading (on default browser) & ofc, flash video/website loading times?
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All of those are about the same on Sensation stock as they are on HD2 CM7...
This makes me feel so much better, but at the same time feeling disappointed that there hasn't really been a major improvement in easily recognisable performance
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This makes me feel so much better, but at the same time feeling disappointed that there hasn't really been a major improvement in easily recognisable performance
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Well, we are comparing custom ROMs with bloated stock ROMs so it's not really fair.
If you loaded up a fully working CM7 ROM on a sensation it would obliterate the HD2, but that is far off, so for now the HD2 for me is the preferred phone. I may even wait for some quad core action before I upgrade.
with hd2 in some ROMs you can get 3000 points in quadrant with a bit of overclocking and of course playing around ppp/rmnet, switching roms, you can go up 3,3mbps in download, but we got an awesome development on this awesome phone, and we're still waiting for new Desire Kernel and GB to solve all current problems
i will not buy the htc sensation because i can buy 3 hd2 with that price, and i wouldn't feel the BIG difference, but in the future, sgs2 will be my phone (i never buyed a phone >180€, maybe i'll have to wait 2 years and i'll use rock solid custom ROMs )
Have to disagree, the Sensataion is far superior on every level, the camera/video is arguably the best out there, the colours are vivid (dense and rich), the speed is obviously faster, it boots in seconds. Opens apps very quickly (as quick as my g2x which has been modded with cy 7, netflix and web browsing, lightening on the 4g network... It feels very comfortable to hold, and you don't sense your holding a large phone, great design..Don't get me wrong, I love my Hd2 (I've owned about 4 or more) and the spare battery helps. But honestly, the Sensation is a truly exceptionaldevice... The camera and video is quite incredible....
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Have to disagree, the Sensataion is far superior on every level, the camera/video is arguably the best out there, the colours are vivid (dense and rich), the speed is obviously faster, it boots in seconds. Opens apps very quickly (as quick as my g2x which has been modded with cy 7, netflix and web browsing, lightening on the 4g network... It feels very comfortable to hold, and you don't sense your holding a large phone, great design..Don't get me wrong, I love my Hd2 (I've owned about 4 or more) and the spare battery helps. But honestly, the Sensation is a truly exceptionaldevice... The camera and video is quite incredible....
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I used a sensation for about 2 weeks, couldn't wait to get back on my HD2, the stock ROM on the sensation to me is pretty bad, the UI lagged, the camera was ok but 8mp isn't a must have for me. It didn't seem to open apps that much faster than my current CM7 ROM, 4G was slightly faster than HSDPA, I dunno, just didn't wow me.
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Have to disagree, the Sensataion is far superior on every level, the camera/video is arguably the best out there, the colours are vivid (dense and rich), the speed is obviously faster, it boots in seconds. Opens apps very quickly (as quick as my g2x which has been modded with cy 7, netflix and web browsing, lightening on the 4g network... It feels very comfortable to hold, and you don't sense your holding a large phone, great design..Don't get me wrong, I love my Hd2 (I've owned about 4 or more) and the spare battery helps. But honestly, the Sensation is a truly exceptionaldevice... The camera and video is quite incredible....
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Do you think it's worth the money, especially when there's the g2x for a much cheaper price?
I'd take a Sensation over the g2x because
1) there is going to be much much more development for it.
2) qHD
3) the g2x will probably never be able to run Sense.
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Have to disagree, the Sensataion is far superior on every level, the camera/video is arguably the best out there, the colours are vivid (dense and rich), the speed is obviously faster, it boots in seconds. Opens apps very quickly (as quick as my g2x which has been modded with cy 7, netflix and web browsing, lightening on the 4g network... It feels very comfortable to hold, and you don't sense your holding a large phone, great design..Don't get me wrong, I love my Hd2 (I've owned about 4 or more) and the spare battery helps. But honestly, the Sensation is a truly exceptionaldevice... The camera and video is quite incredible....
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I agree with you, the Sensation IS superior on every level. But it's not so incredibly better to warrant purchasing a new $600 phone. (Unless you have tons of disposable income.)
I know that the Sensation bootloader just got unlocked (or at least is planning to become unlocked in the near future according to HTC). So that'll give it some hacking support, but still....
Yes, the camera is much better, but nothing to blow someone out of the water.
For comparison, I went from a HTC: G1 original Android phone, to a HD2, and patiently waited with the WinMo 6.5 until Android on SD was released. It's a WORLD of difference between a Android HD2 and an original G1.
I think I can justify waiting for a Samsung Hercules, or a Samsung Galaxy 3D.
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or a Samsung Galaxy 3D.
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whaaaa??
is that foreal?
orangekid said:
whaaaa??
is that foreal?
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Samsung's answer to the HTC Evo 3D and LG Optimus 3D is set to arrive in Q4, making it the perfect Christmas present.
The Samsung Galaxy 3D is said to be very similar to the Samsung Galaxy S2, with a 1.2GHz dual-core processor and 4.3-inch touchscreen.
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http://www.knowyourmobile.com/blog/988411/samsung_galaxy_3d_set_to_land_by_christmas.html
what a lot of us dont really get the point is to accept that yes..the HD2 is getting old and yes other HTC device's are getting better hardware and software in comparison with the HD2.
However we still claim HD2 to be the best device..just because we have the power to run multiple OS's. No doubt thats a strong point but we will have to let it go someday.
I am thinking myself to go for the HTC Sensation....but doesnt mean i will not use my HD2...
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what a lot of us dont really get the point is to accept that yes..the HD2 is getting old and yes other HTC device's are getting better hardware and software in comparison with the HD2.
However we still claim HD2 to be the best device..just because we have the power to run multiple OS's. No doubt thats a strong point but we will have to let it go someday.
I am thinking myself to go for the HTC Sensation....but doesnt mean i will not use my HD2...
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No, the reason is that we can run multiple ROMs of the same OS optimized to run about as well/better than the stock sensation ROM, the only thing the sensation has over the HD2 IMO is the camera and 1080p playback, other than that I would much rather have CM7 on my HD2.
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what a lot of us dont really get the point is to accept that yes..the HD2 is getting old and yes other HTC device's are getting better hardware and software in comparison with the HD2.
However we still claim HD2 to be the best device..just because we have the power to run multiple OS's. No doubt thats a strong point but we will have to let it go someday.
I am thinking myself to go for the HTC Sensation....but doesnt mean i will not use my HD2...
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No, what I actually mean to say, is although hardware and software is getting better and better on other devices, it's worth it to wait and continue using a still very relevant HD2, updating the ROM's to current OS's, so you can hold off buying a new phone and instead save money to get an even BETTER piece of hardware 4-6 months down the road.
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No, the reason is that we can run multiple ROMs of the same OS optimized to run about as well/better than the stock sensation ROM, the only thing the sensation has over the HD2 IMO is the camera and 1080p playback, other than that I would much rather have CM7 on my HD2.
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true that. but look after a point we too know that a native android device will still have an advantage over our Hd2 roms. You know...i have been running the American android SD version for months now..but when it comes to NAND somehow I cant make my mind...i still love WM6.5 and the battery life is great....something which i am a little skeptical on nand android !
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No, what I actually mean to say, is although hardware and software is getting better and better on other devices, it's worth it to wait and continue using a still very relevant HD2, updating the ROM's to current OS's, so you can hold off buying a new phone and instead save money to get an even BETTER piece of hardware 4-6 months down the road.
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yeah...of course i agree....we can continue to use it i believe atleast for the next 1-2 year..unless somesort of amazing phone technology comes up making my HD2 obsolete.
my friend has a Thunderbolt and now he wants a Sensation...!! lol...
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true that. but look after a point we too know that a native android device will still have an advantage over our Hd2 roms. You know...i have been running the American android SD version for months now..but when it comes to NAND somehow I cant make my mind...i still love WM6.5 and the battery life is great....something which i am a little skeptical on nand android !
yeah...of course i agree....we can continue to use it i believe atleast for the next 1-2 year..unless somesort of amazing phone technology comes up making my HD2 obsolete.
my friend has a Thunderbolt and now he wants a Sensation...!! lol...
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Getting rid of a Thunderbolt for a Sensation is ridiculous.