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Does your N1 sell itself

Tell us your story! How many people have seen your N1 and what was their reaction? Did they buy?
In my experience most people ask "What the F*** is that" and I just hand them the phone and tell them its the Google phone and show off some exclusive capability. About 7 people that I know have purchased the phone because they saw mine. Any similar stories?

A few co-workers flipped their iphones in favour of an n1...all it took was handing them the phone and showing them the sdk
Outside of work, a few friends made the switch from Sprint (Pre) to TMO (n1), random strangers who saw my phone sitting on a table while having a meal were quite impressed...
I can only imagine what the adoption rate would have been if Google actually marketed this device. Perhaps if they even bothered to make mention that it was available for ATT 3G, or is coming to VZW. Sometimes Google confuses me....

Everyone that saw my N1 ran out and bought a Droid for 99 bucks. <g>

mlott said:
Everyone that saw my N1 ran out and bought a Droid for 99 bucks. <g>
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you...you are fired!

My stupid friends only enjoy the Clayton Bigsby sound board and the Boobs, Butts, and Babes app. I try to show off the rest, but they are iphone dilshes and just say "mahhh i want those apps too."
Of course I always complain that I cant play Words With Friends with them.

My boss saw my N1 and bought it the day after. Some of my friends were impressed: "Wow, you've got a Nexus One".

I worked at MWC 2010 here in Barcelona and had the chance to get one. Nobody has it yet here in Spain and everyone's really impressed with stuff I show them.
I personally love the phone, I love Android (first Android phone), and want to start developing ASAP!

My N1 completely sells itself.
I think I installed a bad APK. It keeps listing itself on eBay...

lmfao ^^
haha

everybody who noticed my phone was relatively impressed. only thing that kept them back was the 1000's of apps that weren't on their iPhone but were sitll available just incase.

I got a story to tell.
Went to an Apple store the other day and pretended interest in the iPhone. Asked the first salesperson if it can multi-task yet and how fast its processor is. He got confused and asked if I meant multi-touch (...yeah) and had to google up "iphone processor" before giving up and directing me to their "iPhone expert," whom I proceeded to grill about the iPad and iPhone (can they multi-task? Play Flash in browser? Oh. No?) and they admitted that the iPad is nothing more than a giant iTouch--their words, not mine!
So I further went on to ask them about the next-gen iPhone; the "expert" asked if I already got one and I said no, then showed them my Nexus. He was astonished at how fast, smooth, pretty, and powerful it is--I showed him how many processes were running, some live wallpapers, the pinch-to-leap thing from Desire's Sense, and in the end he said that Apple likes to sit on crucial features and save them for later releases so as to charge people more.
There you go, folks. Straight from the horse's mouth.

HD2 In Public :P

I got my HD2 wednesday because we had a snow day
The next day at school EVERYBODY would be like "woah that's a huge fake iPhone"
that resulted in me getting it taken away by the teacher for the rest of class
What happens when you whip out your snapdragon goodness?

hiddengopher said:
I got my HD2 wednesday because we had a snow day
The next day at school EVERYBODY would be like "woah that's a huge fake iPhone"
that resulted in me getting it taken away by the teacher for the rest of class
What happens when you whip out your snapdragon goodness?
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someone asked me why did i get an iphone. and i said &&%%$

a guy asked me if it was 'the new iphone' and i told him i wouldn't touch an iphone if he paid me, as i was saying that he was pulling out his iphone..... we didn't speak for the rest of the journey.

samsamuel said:
a guy asked me if it was 'the new iphone' and i told him i wouldn't touch an iphone if he paid me, as i was saying that he was pulling out his iphone..... we didn't speak for the rest of the journey.
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someone asked me why did i get an iphone. and i said %%&&**.
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hahaha yeah I get asked if it's an iPhone constantly.
In my biology class this kid I didn't like asked me why I got my phone for $200 instead of an iPhone.
I told him "because I'm not a little puss like you!"
then possibly the only other android aware person in my school said "f*** you apple lover! f*** you!"
it was a great day.

although, I like people not saying "that's a brick!" every time I pull out my phone. The g1 was far too thick.

Buddy of mine saw it and started to make fun of it talking about how much better the hardware on his iphone 3gs was. The moment I finished quoting the specs...he gave me this look like his dog had died and then asked where he could get one. Told him it was on T-mobile only and showed how much faster the hspa in my area was...and he got pissed...

jasecloud4 said:
Buddy of mine saw it and started to make fun of it talking about how much better the hardware on his iphone 3gs was. The moment I finished quoting the specs...he gave me this look like his dog had died and then asked where he could be one. Told him it was on T-mobile only and showed how much faster the hspa in my area was...and he got pissed...
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hahaha. yeah I just show them how thin it is, how it's rubber and metal, how gorgeous and giant the screen is and the ui.
However, one person said "that's pretty stupid, why would you want the clouds on your screen"

People seem to be impressed with the screen size - it's a monster. Never been mistaken for an iPhone, and when someone asks about the iPhone, I say, "iPhones are toys for children who needs Steve Jobs to tell them what to do. This is a phone for those who don't wish to listen to the Charlatan of Cupertino."

aff_afc said:
People seem to be impressed with the screen size - it's a monster. Never been mistaken for an iPhone, and when someone asks about the iPhone, I say, "iPhones are toys for children who needs Steve Jobs to tell them what to do. This is a phone for those who don't wish to listen to the Charlatan of Cupertino."
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hahaha. I myself am a windows hater, but this phone changed my mind about winmo

First impressions always is about the large screen.
What sold me on this phone is Remote Desktop.

A few of my friends have iphones. After they have seen my HD2, the major consensus was that it was "too much of a phone" for them. Damn straight!!

Most people just ask/say to me "is that an iPhone" or just say "you got an iPhone too"

when I brought my HD2 to Cleveland Ohio in February, everyone on campus was like "ooooh shiny" then when i showed them Swype for text input they were all like "oooooooooooh waaaoooww! where can i get one?"
I said, tut tut, not until late March

hiddengopher said:
hahaha. yeah I just show them how thin it is, how it's rubber and metal, how gorgeous and giant the screen is and the ui.
However, one person said "that's pretty stupid, why would you want the clouds on your screen"
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LOL...the dynamic weather makes me feel like a kid in a candy shop every time I see it change and go off...oh the simple pleasures that make us happy in this world...

Just show people iwobble on that huge WVGA-screen and they'll love your phone!

A friend of mine just got the 3gs and he was like are you f^&*ing kidding me i thought i had the newest iphone i could of slapped him silly, I then showed him a few features turns out the iphone has been returned

People in class are still wasting their money on the useless old iphone, and where I live it's $538 for an iPhone 3gs 16gb with a data plan and the HD2 cost only 50-100 more. Wanna smack em and tell them theyve wasted their money

After the "Oh, cool, another iPhone"
i reply "no, no its not" as my expression hardens
I finish off my text under the desk and start surfing the internet in class, pissing off all the iPhone users sitting next to me with its speed with its speed
all 20 of em!

only one person has ever asked my "why didnt you get an Iphone"
To which i simply said "Why didn't you get aids? Same thing really".
To be fair, I was in a funny mood.
90% of people I've talked to are impressed, but know little about HTC.
Almost all of them said they like it better than Iphone..

I read the whole thread and I must say some of the posted answers are really funny!
Unfortunately, on the "serious" side of things, this poll makes you wonder..
Even though I deeply hate the iphone, I gotta give apple kudos for engineering something that has become THE standard in the cell phone market.
They managed to create something that has become so popular that everybody knows it, children and elderlies included.
Tech sites and experts use it as reference when comparing it to every new phone unleashed, even if, let's be honest about it, the iphone isn't really that much of a cell..
What's even more depressing is the fact that whenever someone takes a peek at the HD2, he/she immediately assumes that it must be the iphone or worse, like a rip-off of it, not even knowing that the hd2 kicks the iphone's ass from sea to shining sea...
Aaah Apple, congratz!! You have created a share of market that really revolves around you..

What's up w/ G2 Marketing?

All weekend I've been seeing/hearing the Blackberry Torch commercials, posters and radio drops. It made me wonder, where the hell are the G2 commercials and stuff?
I don't really hear or see anyone talking about this phone AT ALL. It's only when I go to specific Android or G2 forums that people like us are talking about it.
Have you seen anything about the G2?

At least it's up on tmo's home page for pre-order info

T-Mobile is knownto have a SH*TTY marketing team.
They real need kahonas to come out say this device beats everything out there...

someone has mentioned before that t-moible's big boys have limited budget for the marketing dept. I personally notice this too. I don't see as many T-mobile commercials as a few years ago

I think a majority of the people interested in the G2 don't need need to be marketed towards anyway. The marketing would probably help with phone sales, but I'm not sure it'd be enough to make it worthwhile.
G1/G2 users seem to mostly be the techy crowd that has been following G2 news for a while anyway.

Jorsher said:
I think a majority of the people interested in the G2 don't need need to be marketed towards anyway. The marketing would probably help with phone sales, but I'm not sure it'd be enough to make it worthwhile.
G1/G2 users seem to mostly be the techy crowd that has been following G2 news for a while anyway.
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One could argue that by saying Droid was meant for techy crowd too, but its not like that. The only reason Android became mainstream was because of the heave droid ad/market campaign that verizon did. No one knew what android was until verizon ads showed up showing how droid could muti-task and the whole App business.
If t-mobile could produce Ads half as good as Verizon produced for the droid, I dont see why the Non-techy crowd would jump on.
As of now the G2 is in the eyes of Techy, Sidekick, messaging users....
I hope it becomes mainstream like droid....

I'm not saying they shouldn't market it; I just don't see the big reason for it.
If people already have service with T-Mobile, they'll see it when they decide to upgrade their phone.
If people don't have service with T-Mobile, they'll typically find out when carrier is best for their area then pick a phone.
It's a nice phone, but I don't see it as something that would be a big draw for new customers. IMO phone marketing is pretty useless. People that care will find out the information on their own or when they upgrade. People that don't care about the features won't be buying it anyway. Marketing wouldn't really let out a big secret, people will see the phone when they shop/upgrade anyway.

Jorsher said:
I'm not saying they shouldn't market it; I just don't see the big reason for it.
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$$$$$$
(it's this little thing that all profit companies set as a goal)

Remember the phone has not launched yet, the Blackberry Torch commercials did not start until the device launched. Hopefully it will be the same with the G2.

JCopernicus said:
$$$$$$
(it's this little thing that all profit companies set as a goal)
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Which is exactly why I said it may not be worth the money in my original comment...
Marketing costs millions. They won't even sell millions of these phones, and profit margins on the hardware itself is next to nil. It's not exactly an 'epic' phone that will bring a ton of new subscribers like some of the others.
So, you answered your own question. It wouldn't be profitable to market this phone. It's not going to be a big draw for new users and the hardware isn't profitable on it's own, so why would they waste the money?
Since they're quite obviously in the business to make money, and they surely pay people a lot of money to make their marketing decisions, I am sure they ultimately decided that it in fact wasn't worth the money. Either that, or they just didn't want to make money (which sounds odd for a company that's out to make profit).

Jorsher said:
Which is exactly why I said it may not be worth the money in my original comment...
Marketing costs millions. They won't even sell millions of these phones, and profit margins on the hardware itself is next to nil. It's not exactly an 'epic' phone that will bring a ton of new subscribers like some of the others.
So, you answered your own question. It wouldn't be profitable to market this phone. It's not going to be a big draw for new users and the hardware isn't profitable on it's own, so why would they waste the money?
Since they're quite obviously in the business to make money, and they surely pay people a lot of money to make their marketing decisions, I am sure they ultimately decided that it in fact wasn't worth the money. Either that, or they just didn't want to make money (which sounds odd for a company that's out to make profit).
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Good think verizon never stepped up to plate with their droid line, who wants an android phone anyways right?
And a phone from apple? lol stick to your computers please.
Oh yeah, there's no way people would pay a dollar for a bottle of water either.
[icp]marketing, how does it work?[/icp]

JCopernicus said:
Good think verizon never stepped up to plate with their droid line, who wants an android phone anyways right?
And a phone from apple? lol stick to your computers please.
Oh yeah, there's no way people would pay a dollar for a bottle of water either.
[icp]marketing, how does it work?[/icp]
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I wish I lived in your fantasy world where marketing is always profitable. I have a lot of crap I should spend millions to advertise, because it can't possibly fail.
You should send T-Mobile your resume because you seem to have the expertise that they are lacking. Their marketing department, full of people with marketing degrees that have probably been in the business longer than you've been alive, have no idea what they're doing. You, however, understand that anything with a commercial will be a huge success.
Stupid T-Mobile.
BTW, the G1 was marketed by T-Mobile. Why would T-Mobile spend the money to market a phone that isn't available to new customers? New customers are where the money is, so it'd be pretty retarded to advertise a phone that these new sources of money can't even buy yet. Heck, what do I know.

Why don't we wait until the official launch. It's too early to tell what t-mobile will do.
and you two stop bickering. lol

Jorsher said:
I wish I lived in your fantasy world where marketing is always profitable. I have a lot of crap I should spend millions to advertise, because it can't possibly fail.
You should send T-Mobile your resume because you seem to have the expertise that they are lacking. Their marketing department, full of people with marketing degrees that have probably been in the business longer than you've been alive, have no idea what they're doing. You, however, understand that anything with a commercial will be a huge success.
Stupid T-Mobile.
BTW, the G1 was marketed by T-Mobile. Why would T-Mobile spend the money to market a phone that isn't available to new customers? New customers are where the money is, so it'd be pretty retarded to advertise a phone that these new sources of money can't even buy yet. Heck, what do I know.
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T-Mobile's marketing team is known for being rather lackluster.
I'm pretty sure my current clients are satisfied with my expertise in advertising their companies and products. Then again I could be wrong and I'm just scribbling in my notebook during home room, remind me how old I am again?

funkadesi said:
Why don't we wait until the official launch. It's too early to tell what t-mobile will do.
and you two stop bickering. lol
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Well, yeah. If anything, they'll wait on the marketing until profitable people can actually buy it.
Right now only people that are already with T-Mobile can buy it (and wait to get it). They'd be pissing in the wind to advertise it now.

I have no marketing experience (because im an engineer) but If we were offered a gig to market the G2, I believe we can come up with some great ideas.
Maybe someone should hit up Tmo on twitter and let them know that we are willing to do this, lol

lol i second the stop bickering request.
you guys have to realize that they dont have the money to advertise/build hype for a phone that isnt on the market yet. Just you wait, they will start advertising once it is released.

funkadesi said:
I have no marketing experience (because im an engineer) but If we were offered a gig to market the G2, I believe we can come up with some great ideas.
Maybe someone should hit up Tmo on twitter and let them know that we are willing to do this, lol
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first step, find a way to fit your resume into 160 char

theglock said:
lol i second the stop bickering request.
you guys have to realize that they dont have the money to advertise/build hype for a phone that isnt on the market yet. Just you wait, they will start advertising once it is released.
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You'll see like two commercials run for a week or two, tops, for the G2.
That's just how tmobile rolls.

All I know is that T-Mobile needs to get on the ball. And whoever the hell said marketing isn't a big deal, hmmm... 30 million bucks for a 30 second spot during the super bowl? Nah, not a big deal at all.
There's no such thing that G1/G2 is made for the "techy" crowd. It's ALWAYS about money. They want EVERYONE to buy the phone, not the 5,000 devs out there. lol
But anyways, I want to see some commercials or something about this. Of course it's going to on T-Mobile's website....

Cheers DEVS - I felt like a god today...lol

As I was walking past anyway, thought i'd pop into Carphone Warehouse to have a lil look around and price a bigger SD card and car charger....OMG..wish I didn't!
A NON-HTC charger, which looked like it was made of paper and a bit of cotton.....£24.99
After I finished my 2 minute mouth open, blank stare of pure shock, I politely said..."umm, ok, just pricing them for now"
What I really wanted to do is collapse to the floor laughing and say "ARE YOU TAKING THE PISS!!"
But, trying to be polite, I didn't.
Then, just as I was about to leave, he noticed my phone in my hand (****!)
"Are you on contract or pay as you go?"
me: "Pay as you go"
Him: "I notice you've got a HD2 there"
me: "uh, yeah"
"We've got some nice ANDROID and Iphone phones in stock if you are thinking of upgrading"
LMAO - awesome, my time to shine and feel like a GOD!! (i owe you one, Devs!)
me "I'm ok with this at the moment, thanks"
Now I did try not to mention Android on my HTC HD2 to avoid any hassle. BUT...
Him: "Have you tried an Iphone orAndroid phone before? they offer the user a much more entertaining and feature packed experience" (blah blah, he went on about how I can get apps etc with the CRAPPle Iphone and Android)
So, I just had to drop the bomb....
me: I've got Android already mate, your right, it does offer a feature packed experience (LOL)
him: "sorry, can i havea quick look at the model a sec, it is the HD2, isn't it?"
me: "that's right, HTC HD2, i love the thing, best phone i've ever owned"
him "Ahh, right...with that phone, Sir...it's called Windows Mobile, Android and Iphone are different User Interfaces"
(**** it I thought, plus inner feelings of joy and "thank you XDA Devs thoughts..so I said it)
me: "Yes, I know about Android, This has got Android on it."
him: "The phone you have there?"
me: "Yes, love it, Android is fantastic"
him "What that phone has on it is what's called, Windows Mobile 6.5, thats the operating system"
LMAO....lol
me "Yes, I know that, but i'bve got Android on here now, used to have it booting via SD card, but now, thanks to the guys on XDA, it's not running on NAND"
him - blank confused look, so I handed him my phone, which was off...so I had great pleasure it telling him to turn it on and check it out...LOL
Well, to say he was shocked was an understatement. I then spent the next 10 mins telling him EVERYTHING about it, the Roms you can get, the Forum, the whole lot..it was awesome...he called his colleague over and he was blown away...lol...LOVE IT!!
cheers Devs - I owe you one...gonna have a big f**k off grin on my face all day now...lol
had to share my visit to carphone warehouse hehe ;-) ;-)

Great story, I want this to happen to me, time to visit T-Mobile tommorow...
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Haha lol great, I was in there the other day and kept my phone out prominently hoping for a similar conversation (god, we're geeky!)
And yes, prices are ridiculous in there! And SD-cards are well-overpriced everywhere... a 16GB is around £20-£25 online... Good luck finding it for less than £50 in any High Street store.

Muhaha...!
Very cool story! You made my day...

Unbelievably great story!!!!

thats more like it!

love it!
Same thing happened to me in Phones4U.
They seem to know their phones but not wot you can actually do with them.
It is a great feeling, although being aware that were it not for XDA I wouldnt have experienced it.
Last time I was in they tried to sell me a Desire HD ... similar results.
LOL
GG

LOL....
I just read whole story.... I a going to smile all day too

funny story.. it happened to me as well

Lol, nice story. Hope it happens to me soon lol.

You should send this to the writers of XDA. Pretty funny

Before xmas, gf and I went into the local O2 store to get her a 3G payg sim for my old blackstone.
The guy serving us hadn't seen one before, he was young so probably hadn't been working there for long enough.
He asked what I had, I told him and he asked if I was considering "upgrading" to WP7, I told him I wouldn't touch it with a 10 foot barge pole and explained the reasons why, and why the HD2 was much better, and pointed out that it could run Android, and for weirdos it will probably get WP7 soon though god knows why.
I think I out geeked him, poor lad.

Hey that's a cool story
I had one time in the train somebody next to me with an HD2, playing with it, so I put mine out of my pocket and started to play with it to (I was running Android from the NAND). The guy saw that I had an HD2 in the hand but when he saw I was going to the Market and saw Android, he just started to look at me like
He didn't asked me how I was performing the trick but he didn't stopped to look at my HD2

Hahah, it's so funny seriously - I felt that same level of smug when I visited an HTC stand in my local shopping centre - I asked to try out WP7 and the guy asked me if I had an HTC already or whether I was looking to upgrade etc (all that crap they say to try and sell you stuff)
He said 'if I'm honest with you I'd go for the Desire HD' and *hehe*
I pulled out my phone and said I'd already got the Desire HD.
He said, that's the HD2.
"I know" I said. "Turn it on"
You should have seen his face.

Right on!!!!! lol

I'd just say "Epic!", but then that wouldn't be at least 10 characters long.

I didn't have an "android boast" experience, but everytime I pull out my HD2 in Montreal, people stare at my phone. One girl at a local liquor store actually said "OMG, what is that phone?? it's so big!" I laughed and said, "Yeah, it's an imported phone, doesn't sell here."
(Keep in mind we have no 4.3 inch phones for sale here in Montreal)

Just like my dong

poor guy... a 4.3 inch dong... :-D

mattfmartin said:
You should send this to the writers of XDA. Pretty funny
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Guess what... it's reaching the portal soon.
It really is a great story, really emphasizes our love for XDA!

This was just posted on twitter by Samsung usa

SamsungMobileUS: Seeking To Defuse Tensions, Samsung Opens Dialogue With XDA-Dev Forum - http://ow.ly/3X2cL @SamsungJohn
Sent from my non-rooted, stock eclair Epic.

I'd say the rants of people saying they're never going Samsung again seems to be paying off?

XtaC318 said:
I'd say the rants of people saying they're never going Samsung again seems to be paying off?
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No pay day yet. This is Sammy's way of confessing they have been trying to do it their way instead of please the customer for too long.
It still remains to be seen what they actually DO about it.
We all know what pathway good intentions paved =]

The bottom line is until sammy gets the carriers in line, and froyo gets released before its 1st birthday! People will rant with good reason. Btw gingerbread has been out for like 3 months! We have a top of the line device running an os from 2009. Honestly I love the hardware but I can't handle this bad os support.
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Whoever even buys another Samsung flagship phone with the belief that they learned their lesson deserves what they are going to get and shouldn't complain anymore. If you haven't realized what their intent is, which is maximum profit with the least effort, while actually making it seem like they kind of care with PR rep's that promise things that they cant' actually commit to. INB4C
My friend asked me what phone he should buy, and looked at the Galaxy S2 and the Motorola Atrix. It was a no brainer which phone was the winner. Go Atrix! Pre-ordered and waiting! He was waiting for a nice dual core phone, but after the mess he has heard from me with Samsung, he said he definitely doesn't want to go through the same thing. To be honest, this crap is making me sick to my stomach just talking about anymore, cause we've all been crapped on, and it doesn't feel nice.

I'm not surprised in the least that Samsung would think that this meaningless gesture would diffuse this issue, but I'm honestly SHOCKED that "Xda leaders" would put any thought into this. I suspect they're making money off this, somehow.
This site has lost its way badly.

At least it's a start and shows Samsung at least recognizes they've pissed off some people. It's better than what they've been doing which has been a whole lot of nothing.

re: XDA profiting... maybe request some transparency on the issue??? Besides, I thought they were in bed with HTC, like Sprint...? (hehehehe )

Y'all getting played ... Pay attention.
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enlighten us on how were being played... I love a good conspiracy theory...
I HEARD... Samsung sent John to distract attention from the fact that they are currently in hostage negotiations with Sprint, the suitcase full of cash is in transit, and Noobnl has the code to unlock it, but he refuses to share it with anyone because he only cares about glory, so he is meeting John at sxsw to listen to crappy emo music and make the handoff. And THEN Sprint will begin work on adding SprintID and a new, improved, constant Nascar streaming app, which can in no way be turned off. Oh, and HTC assassins are waiting there to shoot Noob so that they can still claim that the EVO is the flagship phone, and artificially make supply of the phone backordered to give the impression to the common consumer that it is not a giant POS. Did I miss anything?

I've never owned a Samsung phone before the Epic. It is my first and MY LAST. HEAR ME SAMSUNG? YOU BLEW IT.

ungovernable1977 said:
enlighten us on how were being played... I love a good conspiracy theory...
I HEARD... Samsung sent John to distract attention from the fact that they are currently in hostage negotiations with Sprint, the suitcase full of cash is in transit, and Noobnl has the code to unlock it, but he refuses to share it with anyone because he only cares about glory, so he is meeting John at sxsw to listen to crappy emo music and make the handoff. And THEN Sprint will begin work on adding SprintID and a new, improved, constant Nascar streaming app, which can in no way be turned off. Oh, and HTC assassins are waiting there to shoot Noob so that they can still claim that the EVO is the flagship phone, and artificially make supply of the phone backordered to give the impression to the common consumer that it is not a giant POS. Did I miss anything?
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Careful....there's many a self-demonstrated poster in these forums that will actually, seriously, believe that too. *g*

Here's to hoping open exchange of dialogue will soon become exchange of sources and binaries!

Honestly, this was my first Samsung phone in about ten years is so far, it's my last.
It's not the lack of Froyo, this is just a simple annoyance. What killed it is GPS that works like crap, barely functioning accelorometer, retarded hardcoded GPS accuracy refusal to do anything about these two issues. I have a bad feeling that the last bug isn't a bug at all, but an attempt to cover up poorly functioning GPS on this phone. If I was Colbert, I'd wag my finger at them.
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and.... how does this help me???

DiGi760 said:
Do they sell the car docks now? I've seen them on Sammy's web page since launch, but I have been unable to find a single place where it is for sale.
And you do know that the Epic isn't "a year fukin old" yet, don't you? It was announced in June and launched at the end of August which makes it only 6 months old for consumers.
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2.2 - year old by now.

ungovernable1977 said:
enlighten us on how were being played... I love a good conspiracy theory...
I HEARD... Samsung sent John to distract attention from the fact that they are currently in hostage negotiations with Sprint, the suitcase full of cash is in transit, and Noobnl has the code to unlock it, but he refuses to share it with anyone because he only cares about glory, so he is meeting John at sxsw to listen to crappy emo music and make the handoff. And THEN Sprint will begin work on adding SprintID and a new, improved, constant Nascar streaming app, which can in no way be turned off. Oh, and HTC assassins are waiting there to shoot Noob so that they can still claim that the EVO is the flagship phone, and artificially make supply of the phone backordered to give the impression to the common consumer that it is not a giant POS. Did I miss anything?
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I will buy that for a dollar....LOL
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Any Twitter/FB spammers reading??? Can you confirm this yourself... another conspiracy... oh my!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=955776
would be funny if it were true... and then SJ does a little dance 'hey! look over here!' hehehe...
im just finding this all funny at this point...

Hi I'm samsungjohn, just wanted to let you guys know that I'm just using this pr to gain rank within the amsung corporation. I figured if I was able to convince everyone to stick with samsung and to keep buying samsung, that I will be soon promoted. In reality I am jus doing this for a job. I don't even own a samsung phone. I own an LG, but thank you for listening to me and allowing me to pull your strings....Public Actions speak louder than words....oh and by the way. The Truth Is What You Make It, and Who You get To Believe In It.
No worries I'm just poking fun at this all. If people have gotten offended by it then the truth lies within the offended. Lol
now if Samsung were to really/officially be changing fo the people they would skip over froyo and be the first to update every galaxy s series to gingerbread. Or at least get froyo out and gingerbread soon after.
And powers at be, feel free to delete or modify this if you like. I've already gotten past the point of anger, and this whole samsung update bs is just a joke to me now. Samsung makes great dumb phones but a smart phone is just isn't worth it.

Too late, too slow, too little.
Samsung unfortunately is still working on the feature-phone timelines. What they (and most other android phone makers, with the possible exception of HTC) seem to not quite understand is that these smartphones are true computers now, and need to be treated as such. The OS is an integral part of phone, perhaps the most important part, and people will not tolerate a company that refuses to update an OS that both has critical bugs (and yes, the GPS bug is a CRITICAL bug), and appears incapable of utilizing the hardware it's surrounded by. It's like Microsoft refusing to repair a Windows bug that kept all printers only printing in black and white. It's almost worse that the hardware is so good, and is being crippled by a poorly customized OS (like tantalus, nearby but unreachable relief is far worse than no possibility of relief at all).
It's going to take a really big step to mollify those that have been burned by this generation of samsung's smartphones. Samsung, if your listening. You've pissed off many of your most important phone buyers. These are the people who less tech-savvy people ask for advice on phones, and for every 1 XDA member offended by your apparent lack of desire to properly support your equipment, you probably lose at least 10 referral sales to companies like HTC.
My recommendation, at least open the source code for the devs to look at, and if you're having software quality problems (and that's the reason you can't get froyo out the door), invite some of the best devs to take a look at the proprietary modules that you're having problems with. Work with the community and you may maintain some degree of support for your next generation of phones. But keep trying to astroturf them, or worse yet, pull a Behold 2 on them, and watch out as your current market lead could easily change next generation.