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Roger HTC Magic Sense UI!!

Ok, so I've just updated my Rogers HTC Magic to with Rogers new update:
HTC_Magic_Update_File1
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I'd just like to let everyone know that it's absolutely beautifu and so fastl!!!
Runs faster than any hero based ROM on XDA or on any other forum (no offence devs but thanks for your efforts).
My new radio and hboot are as follows:
HBoot - 1.76.0010
Radio - 6.35.10.18
Not quite sure what this means as far as rooting the phone and any development goes, but in general I am quite happy with this update. I will be posting some screen shots in a short time as I have just done the update and need to get everything sorted out. If you have any questions feel free to ask
HTC Magic
Magic Sense UI
HBoot - 1.76.0010
Radio - 6.35.10.18

I have done the update as well and am VERY happy with the new UI (Sence) on my Magic.....Reminds me a bit of my old HTC Touch Diamond....just better cuz it NOT Windows

You are both making me want to take the update, but am hesistant as I'm on Fido, with a rooted phone... plus i don't feel like loosing all my data etc. also don't know what are the implications from this update in terms of future upgrades etc.
any updates from you guys in terms of usability or other issues/etc.

So just to confirm, because I'm a little slow...
If I install this update I will lose root, all my data and paid apps, and I will not be able to get them back because I also won't be able to run "backup for root users"?

zacaszius said:
So just to confirm, because I'm a little slow...
If I install this update I will lose root, all my data and paid apps, and I will not be able to get them back because I also won't be able to run "backup for root users"?
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Correct. But as for paid apps I'm unsure of the results as I didn't have any to begin with. As far as root goes, I'm trying to figure out a way to root the phone as the current methods are out dated for this update. I still have all my data on the sdcard, pictures, videos etc.. so you should be able to keep all of your paid apps. It's basically a matter of time before someone finds a way to root our phones but I'm sure it won't be long.
The new Sense UI is the fastest I have ever seen (and I've tried all of them). There is some issue with sending emails, as I haven't been able to send an email as of yet. I will be calling Rogers today to get this issue sorted out.
HTC Magic
Magic Sense UI
HBoot - 1.76.0010
Radio - 6.35.10.18

virtualahmad said:
You are both making me want to take the update, but am hesistant as I'm on Fido, with a rooted phone... plus i don't feel like loosing all my data etc. also don't know what are the implications from this update in terms of future upgrades etc.
any updates from you guys in terms of usability or other issues/etc.
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I'd wait for one of the guys here to work their magic (pun intended) before upgrading. As gorgeous as SenseUI is, it's too hard to part with all those apps and back up features!

For those who have given in to the Rogers update and have used Cursorsense in the past. How do the two compare in terms of speed?

Chynkinese said:
For those who have given in to the Rogers update and have used Cursorsense in the past. How do the two compare in terms of speed?
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I'ved used the cursorsense and it isn't bad at all. Still nothing compares to how fast this Sense UI runs from Rogers. There is zero lag, and when I say that I mean it. For example when running the Sense stock Music App there is always lag, it doesn't matter who's ROM your using but with this update the Sense Music App works to the millisecond. There is no lag at all on this update so basically you can't compare it to anyone's ROM. All of those ROM's were ported as opposed to this one being built specifically for the Magic from the ground up. But like I said in an earlier post, I am still having problems being able to send emails through the stock app using my Hotmail account. I called Rogers today and they told me that they will fix this problem. I told them that if it's not fixed within the next 2 weeks (which is a reasonable time to wait) that I would be able to get a free upgrade on the next phone of my choice, which they had agreed to. If you haven't updated your ROM and your using a Rogers Magic/Dream I would highly recommend it. They get a 8.5/10 as far as the update goes. I would give them a 10 if my emails weren't giving me a problem and if it was upgraded to version 2.0+ but I guess we can't have it all . Oh and by the way it seems as tho the RAM has somehow been decreased? It was 196 prior to the update and now it's stitting at 165! If anyone knows why this happened please feel free to let us know.
HTC Magic (32A)
Magic Sense UI
HBoot - 1.76.0010
Radio - 6.35.10.18

I am downloading it... the new ROM
Thank you, FoTwoZero, Chynkinese, & zacaszius.. your comments and information would be help for those who are doing this updating with HTC magic.
I am downloading this new ROM at this moment...and hesitate to update my rom. cuz I am also concerning about losing all my data and the ROM I am using... it's a CM 4.2.13. and I am very happy with it so far, even the camera function is kind of cooking.
The Hboot is 1.33.2010
Radio: 3.22.23.18

Rooting
Is there way to root the device after updating it to the most recent rogers update?

orangealtezza said:
Is there way to root the device after updating it to the most recent rogers update?
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No not yet.

I havent had any issues scince the update....dint have any before either
Compared to the 1.5 Scene is way better IMO runs quicker, smother and has a bunch more "goodies" to make it the best phone i've ever owned.

FoTwoZero said:
No not yet.
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Rats.. I'm so loving the Wifi Tether application... and now they've disabled my internet until I can update it.

new rogers/HTC ROM feedback
So hesitantly i finally gave in and upgraded. Thought i would share my experience. I have win7 and called rogers, even though I am on Fido. he sent me the email with the link to 2 files. I followed the instructions, didn't format my SD, copied the first file and the first file installed, and then rebooted... and rebooted... and rebooted... you get the picture. So i pulled the SD card out as it continued to reboot, deleted the first file (using a card reader built into the laptop) and then loaded on the second file. Put the SD back in the magic... its still rebooting... so i pulled the battery, put it back in, did the volume down and power, installed the second file rebooted, and everything was cool. System came up and all was good.
Issues I have with the new ROM:
shows me as roaming (when i called rogers to tell them, he said it is the first he has heard of it)
the weather has preset canandian cities which cannot be deleted (delete is greyed out as is the add button, so i can't add any cities either)
because it is roaming, i have to enable allow roaming data, for data to work
this doesn't have the voice search... even though i never really used it, it was definitely a cool feature to have.
overall, it seems only slightly faster... to be honest, i don't notice a speed difference... however, what i noticed is that the typing sensitivity seems to be better in the sense that my typing has become more accurate (and my fingers didn't lose any weight in the 20 minutes i took to do this update )
hope this is of benefit for others. If anyone has any feedback on any of the issues i listed, i would love to hear about it.

virtualahmad said:
So hesitantly i finally gave in and upgraded. Thought i would share my experience. I have win7 and called rogers, even though I am on Fido. he sent me the email with the link to 2 files. I followed the instructions, didn't format my SD, copied the first file and the first file installed, and then rebooted... and rebooted... and rebooted... you get the picture. So i pulled the SD card out as it continued to reboot, deleted the first file (using a card reader built into the laptop) and then loaded on the second file. Put the SD back in the magic... its still rebooting... so i pulled the battery, put it back in, did the volume down and power, installed the second file rebooted, and everything was cool. System came up and all was good.
Issues I have with the new ROM:
shows me as roaming (when i called rogers to tell them, he said it is the first he has heard of it)
the weather has preset canandian cities which cannot be deleted (delete is greyed out as is the add button, so i can't add any cities either)
because it is roaming, i have to enable allow roaming data, for data to work
this doesn't have the voice search... even though i never really used it, it was definitely a cool feature to have.
overall, it seems only slightly faster... to be honest, i don't notice a speed difference... however, what i noticed is that the typing sensitivity seems to be better in the sense that my typing has become more accurate (and my fingers didn't lose any weight in the 20 minutes i took to do this update )
hope this is of benefit for others. If anyone has any feedback on any of the issues i listed, i would love to hear about it.
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I had the same problem when I installed the first file it kept on rebootin
installed the second one it was cool,
and i dint have any prob about the roaming stuff and about the weather widget, after u mentioned it here i tried to delete the second city ottawa and it worked,,
no voice search
but overall I like this ROM so much, and hope to get the 2.1 update soon

zacaszius said:
So just to confirm, because I'm a little slow...
If I install this update I will lose root, all my data and paid apps, and I will not be able to get them back because I also won't be able to run "backup for root users"?
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Remember, contacts are synced to Google, so you don't loose those. This includes contact photos if you're like me and want them on each and every contact. Also, paid apps are remembered by the Android Market, so if you wipe your phone, you can quickly and easily reinstall your paid apps, without having to pay for them again.
As far as camera photos and music; that's on your SD card. Just copy it all to your PC before flashing the update.
Text messages.... http://www . androlib . com/android.application.com-riteshsahu-smsbackuprestore-zCEB.aspx <-- That program worked well for me. Should run w/out root access. Only downside is that it doesn't do MMS messages.
Things like savegames and other application data (bookmarks, preferences)..... Yeah, those are going to be lost, unfortunately. :\
HTH,
Chris

I have the update from Rogers but I noticed that the Auto Clock Update is not accurate at all. While I drove from Richmond to Surrey, the clock in the phone become 6 hours faster...so weird. I need to uncheck the auto update.
Do you guys have the same problem?

need help
Hi Guys,
I am so new to this android thing ( ex - iphone user)
I've just bought my magic from 3 Australia , black 32a version
I've read a few threads and i am finding it so confusing... I want to update my ROM, but there are so many threads and i am so confused which one i want and no threads have cleared instructions how to update ..
Now as i am in AU, can i update to this sense UI ROM, Can someone please guide and give me download links and some clear instructions...
THanks

I dont understand ... is there no update for the 32B Magics? I searched a bit and couldnt find anything.

Silo45 said:
I dont understand ... is there no update for the 32B Magics? I searched a bit and couldnt find anything.
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This is what I am interested in.
I have a UK Voda Magic 32B, and wondered whether the Rogers update could/should be used.
I'm not rooted and running Donut 1.6 at present.
Aware this is a N00b question, but think that there are probably others who are wondering what I am...
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EDIT: Also- The following link is for the sense update for HTC's (presumably 32A phone). Would that work/not work/brick my Voda 32B?
http://www.htc.com/europe/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=267&cat=2&dl_id=862
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Many thanks,
JS

Few n00b questions

So tomorrow I'm going to be getting my first ever smartphone (HTC HD2) and I had a couple questions.
1.) Do I need a 3G SIM card to obtain 3G speeds?
2.) What exactly is a ROM? Anybody know of really good ones for the HD2?
3.) Does the phone freeze often? If so is there a fix for this?
4.) If Windows 7 ever comes out for this phone will I be able to upgrade to it.
5.) Same as above but for Android OS
6.) Are there good apps out there? Like Last.fm, twitter, etc.
7.) Would Android apps work on the HD2?
Sorry for all the questions, just wanted to make one big post so that I didn't have to constantly nag and make other threads.

1.) Do I need a 3G SIM card to obtain 3G speeds?
I don't know the definite answer but I've had my SIM card forever and I get 3G speeds.
2.) What exactly is a ROM? Anybody know of really good ones for the HD2?
It's like installing a new operating system on your computer. But all of the ROMs are about the same, but are customized for different aspects (different versions of Sense (or not at all), what programs the Chef likes, etc). See the ROM section.
3.) Does the phone freeze often? If so is there a fix for this?
Sometimes. No.
4.) If Windows 7 ever comes out for this phone will I be able to upgrade to it.
Officially: No. Unofficially: unknown; don't count on it.
5.) Same as above but for Android OS
Being worked on, could take a looooooooooooooong time.
6.) Are there good apps out there? Like Last.fm, twitter, etc.
That guide in my sig has some decent apps. I know there's a Last.fm app and a good twitter one, but their names escape me.
7.) Would Android apps work on the HD2?
No. Same goes for iPhone apps.

Thanks for the quickly reply, also what do you think of the phone?
I only got to handle it a little bit at the store, should I return it and wait for something else or should I keep it?

I got the phone because I'm stuck on T-Mobile and I like Windows Mobile, and I absolutely love it from a hardware standpoint. Windows Mobile takes a while to grow on you, and if you've ever played with an iPhone it can be quite jarring to use.
If you like tweaking stuff and having more control over your phone, I definitely recommend it. If you like apps, ease of use, and eye candy, not so much..... It's a hard choice I know.
ETA: Personally, I think the keyboard kinda sucks on it, so if you like composing long emails or texting an insane amount, you might want to rethink your choice.

EDIT: Nevermind, I just saw that jdwrrzmm already pointed you to the same place I was anyway

jdwrrzmm said:
I got the phone because I'm stuck on T-Mobile and I like Windows Mobile, and I absolutely love it from a hardware standpoint. Windows Mobile takes a while to grow on you, and if you've ever played with an iPhone it can be quite jarring to use.
If you like tweaking stuff and having more control over your phone, I definitely recommend it. If you like apps, ease of use, and eye candy, not so much..... It's a hard choice I know.
ETA: Personally, I think the keyboard kinda sucks on it, so if you like composing long emails or texting an insane amount, you might want to rethink your choice.
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im withJDWRRZMM, i think thought the keyboard sucked, but i like a ton of things about it. ive only had mine for a few weeks, and honestly my first thought was there is not nearly enough to do on this phone (speaking from a non-developer stand point).... but i decided to let it try to grow on me, and the more i read through these forums, the more i like the phone...
like stated above, its not ANYTHING like an iphone(which i jumped from).... but in hind sight, the iphone had to grow on me too... i diidnt like aapple very much, so....
id say give it a few weeks, learn more about it, then make your mind up wether you like it or not...
sorry so much writing

1.) Do I need a 3G SIM card to obtain 3G speeds?
No
2.) What exactly is a ROM? Anybody know of really good ones for the HD2?
ROM is the OS. Good custom roms are energy and englencia stock roms is the latest one
3.) Does the phone freeze often? If so is there a fix for this?
Stock ROM-Yes ; Custom ROM- Yes/No Depends on how stable the rom is
4.) If Windows 7 ever comes out for this phone will I be able to upgrade to it.
If a chef can port it, but it will never be officialy released.
5.) Same as above but for Android OS
Same as above
6.) Are there good apps out there? Like Last.fm, twitter, etc.
Plenty. Liked the apps on the HD2 better than the blackberry's but not better than the iPhone(prob would get killed for this one ) or Anroid
7.) Would Android apps work on the HD2?
Not that anyone knows of
Cool apps I've found while using a Custom ROM
-Wireless Tether (makes your phone a wireless router for your laptop) most custom roms come with this pre installed
-Klaxon ( great custom alarm, Stock alarm sucks. It will shut off fully after a couple snoozes which is bad for me haha)
-BSB Tweaks (great app that lets you tweak your phone without doing it manually)
Hope this helps

Why do people hate the keyboard on this phone? I personally love it a lot better than Androids and Iphones keyboards.
If you want apps check out Omarket, there are a ton of free apps there. Few apps I would recommend would be co0kies home tab for great home customizing and clean RAM for keeping your phone running smoothly.

Coming from a g1, I did not think I would like not having a hard keyboard. I really like the keyboard on the hd2. I also have not had any freeze ups and any of the known lags. Cookies Home Tab is awesome. I would also recommend a good task manager. I use Dutty's and like it.

So I got the phone, I'm liking it so far and I have no freeze ups yet and the keyboard seems very nice.
Just one more thing, I saw that there was ROM update from HTC itself, how do I get the update?

SecrtAgentMan said:
So I got the phone, I'm liking it so far and I have no freeze ups yet and the keyboard seems very nice.
Just one more thing, I saw that there was ROM update from HTC itself, how do I get the update?
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Have you tried the swype keyboard..that is what I use and it rocks...not many phones have swype so that is nice showoff feature..
Here is the link for the ROM update but you might want to check to see if your phone already has the updated stock ROM installed. But here is the link for the ROMs..you are looking for the 2.13 Go to START/SETTINGS/ABOUTPHONE/SOFTWAREINFORMATION then you will see the ROM version!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=655653
Hope this helps

Yea i have 2.13, what's the swype thing you're talking about though?

SecrtAgentMan said:
Yea i have 2.13, what's the swype thing you're talking about though?
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If you have 2.13 you should have swype so you can check it out. Open up a text message and hit the keyboard icon on the bottom and once it pops up hit it again but a little to the right of the actual button and a list will pop up and you should select swype.
swype allows you to drag your finger from letter to letter without lifting to spell a word.
Check out videos on youtube by searching swype keyboard

US streak v6601 running v2.1-1Eclair! Few??

Just recevied it US Dell streak yesterday,and the first thing I did was flash/root to Android 2.1. Everything went w/o a hitch. Boy this thing is amazing....Im come from an 8yr old Dell Axim running custom roms.
Couple of observations/questions:
When i was on "donut" and installed my sim. Up in the control panel for connections I saw the 3G/Edge/edge/gsm icons. Now that Im on the "eclair" i see a "H" above up/down arrows..cant tell which network im on 3g/edge.etc etc
What gives? Not an issue I can make calls and surf net, realitively quick d/l speeds. Just curious
Also the camera I dont have option to view the forward faceing cam...anyone else have this issue. Maybe will be addressed with official Streak Froyo release!!!
I watch alot of divx movies, so i loaded Rockplayer which works fine. But I like to stream video via Wifi over network share. I use Estrong file explorer and can browse to my movies folder. When i try to open it wont play, saying unsupported format..I think Streak/Estrong is trying to use default media player..how can I get it to use Rockplayer..is it possible
When both Wifi/Data connection are both enabled.....which takes priority for surfing net/market place d/l and such.. Dont really care since I have unlimited data plan, but I would think wifi would be first choice then data connection...can someone confirm.
Last but not least, Im a noob when it comes to Android...what are the advantages of Rooting streak. I see the Su program, but I have yet to install any apps which take advantage of "roooting"
Thanks....so far absolutely loving Streak...now to search for better keyboard..I liked the one on donut with arrow and number keys...any third party keyboards similar to tthe original keyboard
Cant wait till Froyo comes out!!!!!

- 'H' HSPA speed. Better than 3G
- Front facing camera...well this whole 2.1 is a rip off of a stock 2.1 Nexus One which didnt have a Front Facing camera. Im assuming this is gonna be added when the newer beta version comes out for 2.1. Otherwise, everything about this update smells like my good old Nexus One, from Gallery to the camera.
- root allows you to further customize your Streak to your liking because it gives you full permissions. Metamorph is a great tool for it. Root also allows you to tweak your processor according to your need. Unfortunately we cant overclock yet but underclocking to save battery is there. You'll also have more apps available to you from the marketplace. Also, once we have more developers creating ROMs, root can allow you to change ROMs. Different ROMs, different experience.
Sent from my Dell Streak using XDA App

i didnt know the 2.1 leak was a nexus one rom... even the one from mobileupdate.dell.com/Latestbuild/Latestbuild_21.html?
oh and just a little more clarification. H=HSPA=3.5G
heres some light reading if you want to expand your knowledge
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Speed_Packet_Access
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3G

Could Clockwork Mod 3.0.0.5 work on archos

i was wondering if we could do something like this on the archos?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=897612

And you are sure you have looked into the dev forum for gen8?

If we can compile an initramfs and a zimage from clockworkmod source, I don't see why not.

[email protected] said:
If we can compile an initramfs and a zimage from clockworkmod source, I don't see why not.
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But we have the Sde already and we have a Multi Boot Menu

txtmikhail said:
i was wondering if we could do something like this on the archos?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=897612
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Yes and no. $auron already has replicated some of the functions in his install script. The real question is why do we need CWM? You can backup/restore data directly on the device, or through ADB. You can install update zips by putting them in the UrukUpdate directory. Basically everything CWM does is already taken care of.
I use CWM on my HD2, so I do like it, but it's pointless on Archos, since they already give us the ability to dual-boot through their own Recovery menu.

Why all the people dont want to use SDE?
F*** the warrenty just be brave

I dont heard about anybody who soft bricked his Archos..

Okay, you're not understanding. The Archos AOS firmware and the Archos Bootloader are both encrypted. Even if you can decrypt them, you cannot change them, because they are signed, and the checksum is hardware-coded. Flashing the SDE adds a 3rd decrypted/unsigned boot image that can be flashed through the SDE menu.
Until someone cracks the boot signing and encryption, there can be NOTHING done to the Archos boot system without first flashing the SDE.
And trust me, there are MANY people working on that already, for almost a year.
P.S. How is your A70 useless because of Archos? Since the 2 latest firmware versions, it's been incredibly stable, and it does what's advertised. It even comes with Market now.

The boot loader was cracked see here But I don't think it's a very good option to use.

wdl1908 said:
The boot loader was cracked see here But I don't think it's a very good option to use.
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Yeah, I know, I was following that thread, but I don't like it either. First off, someone needs to find a way to make that change with a reliable script, because you can't ask people to dd and hex edit the recovery block, or there will be bricks-a-plenty.
Second, I have yet to see someone compile a working AOS-format firmware file that works on Gen8. I stopped paying attention, but all the aos-tools only seemed to work with Gen7. Did someone find the AOS decryption code for Gen8?

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Second, I have yet to see someone compile a working AOS-format firmware file that works on Gen8.
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This Is not very possible. You will need the private encryption key of archos.
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I stopped paying attention, but all the aos-tools only seemed to work with Gen7. Did someone find the AOS decryption code for Gen8?
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I think the only thing that is missing to decrypt the aos file is the public keys that are used to verify the image files. They are stored in the flash somewhere we only need to find them.

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This Is not very possible. You will need the private encryption key of archos.
I think the only thing that is missing to decrypt the aos file is the public keys that are used to verify the image files. They are stored in the flash somewhere we only need to find them.
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Then that's the next step to avoid the need for SDE, i suppose. Not like I don't already have the SDE watermark, but it would be nice to flash images through AOS instead of using the Developer menu.

Arobase40 said:
May be things are different with the 10" Tab, but with my 70IT it's far from being stable, whatever version I used : The Tab is laggy, the touchscreen is mostly jerky and "sticky" (Just scrolling the applications panel is a pain, as when I try to scroll to the bottom of the screen, I got unwanted apps launching), Most of the time I can't have wireless connexion, all bluetooth devices I have can't connect while they do instantly with the SGT, HDMI scrolling is also jerky and in blind mode, most USB storage devices don't work, ...
So I can't do Internet uses, nor Multimedia, except MP3 or Video playbacks IN LOCAL Mode after files transfer from a computer using the USB cable, and when the touchscreen allow me to select the correct files !!!
With the latest firmware I cant even not download any apps most of the time even if by any chance I got a connexion whether from Market or Applibs, for not reason... ^^ System is trying to download but got just stuck (not even a single byte), while I can browse (slowly but still)... ^^
So I have to find the apk from my laptop or with my SGT.
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That certainly doesn't sound normal. Have you done a full system reformat and done a fresh install? Not saying it will fix it, but I have had times where it helped with hard-to-determine instability. Things like the wifi connection not working, bad touchscreen response, etc shouldn't be happening.
I believe you, I just know that most people with the A70 don't have those issues. I've even set up a few A70s and found it to be better than my A101, probably due to the lower screen resolution. In your case, it could even be bad hardware. If the SDcard controller fries and becomes unstable, the system can use 100% of the CPU cycles trying to keep up with the errors it will throw. Even the CPU can throttle itself if it's damaged, limiting your frequency, thus giving bad performance.
I hope you can get it figured out, or get it replaced/refunded, because I really do think the Gen8 devices were worth their price. I've had mine for 8 months and I've never regretted it. The Tab is probably a better tablet, but they weren't even close to market when I was deciding to get a tablet.

Arobase40 said:
Yeah, I did fresh reinstall twice and jus got the same issues.
Just for the touchscreen, it was responding more or less fine depending on the firmware version. So I guessed this is a OS issue. For the rest wifi, BT, HDMI or USB Host, it was the same whatever the version !!!
That's the reason, I wanted to do a dump backup and to restore older versions version just to figure out if this is a hardware issue or OS issue... ^^
And that's also the reason, I won't buy newer Tab when they are close to the market but will wait after some weeks or months before to decide. And test deeply them by myself, and not just at reading at web sites or blog tests !!!
I'm really attempted about the Asus Transformer or Slider, but I will wait again for a while... ^^
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I would try to get it replaced if it was me. This forum would be very different if everybody had these problems. I know this is a stupid question, but is it actually an A70HT rebadged to say IT?

Arobase40 said:
Who knows ???
I was really too busy with my work, my other projects, private affairs, and testing my lovely new SGT with different firmwares...
But I'll get in touch with Archos, because this is really too much ass***
I can really certify you I'm not the sole persons having so much troubles, whether in France, in Canada, or UK, for what I have already noticed.
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No, certainly not the only person with alot of troubles, but I truly feel that those people are louder, so you tend to think there's more of them.
Archos rushed to market, like they have for the past 15 years, and I think they started having component shortages, so some of the revisions ended up having unstable mixes of hardware. They probably even know that, and that may be why they've started replacing people's unstable ones as the demand dies.

[ROMs] Captivate Touch (no phone) v3.1 - Update 12/28 WORKING

******NEW THREAD*******
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2347220
If you want to take up this or a similar project on your own, I will provide you with instrucations on what to modify. HOWEVER, you must get permission first from each Rom Chef, as these are their works and we are simply modifying for our own use.
Captivate Touch:
GB via CM7 is working very well. Camera is functional and I am testing the GPS. See notes below. If you are going to install GAPPS, make sure you remove the setup wizard apk from the zip file.
I am running Launcher7 on mine so that my toddler can easily see her books and games on the launcher screen. Will post screens later.
Changelog:
3.1: CM7 based Touch. Working.
3.0: GB Fail, could not get camera working on any GB rom.
2.0: Fixed GPS, removed mms, added dialer back for secret code access.
1.1: Removed modem lib (broke GPS)
1.0: Removed no signal notification
I take no responsibility... yada yada yada. What you do to your phone is your business, don't blame me.
First off, these ROMs are not my creation they belong to the chefs that cooked them or the devs that built them. All I did was modify them to suit my needs. If you like these ROMs, please buy them a beer and support future development. They have endorsed this project and for that I thank them. The camera apk in the froyo version is GizmoDroid's modded camera as the stock and hacked camera from SGS Tools did not function properly.
The goal of this project was to a Captivate Rom completely devoid of any cell phone functions. Why? Well, my job required me to switch to another OS, but I had grown dependent on my Android apps. As such I have modified these ROMs to give us a "Touch-like" device, devoid of any cell phone functions, and with amazing battery life.
Yes, I know that you can just put the phone in Airplane mode, remove them sim card, disable the data network etc, but phone functions still remain and its a not a complete nor elegant experience.
What works:
Testing, but so far everything but the phone
What doesn't:
Some lock screens display (no service)
Install Instructions:
I have provided links to each ROM's original thread. Please follow the instructions there.
So here you go:
Captivate Touch v2.0, Cognition Edition - KB1 2.2 by DesignGears
Based on Cognition 4.4.6
Original Rom Thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=964583
Download: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=L6631IPP
Captivate Touch v3.1, Cyanogen Edition by CyanogenMod
Based on Cyanogen 7.1
Original Rom Thread: http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/Samsung_Captivate:_Full_Update_Guide
Download: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=438L2MQU
If you want to install GAPPS, I recommend removing the setup wizard APK from the .zip as it was giving me problems.
Confirmed working.
Thanks to:
The CyanogenMod Team
DAGr8
DesignGears
Cezar
MikeyMike01 and ChanceM
garringm for pointing me in the right direction on the null signal notifications
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Awesome. I've thought about getting a second Captivate just for this exact purpose. I like the idea of the iTouch but I'm not a big Apple fan. I like being able to expand my storage and replace a failed battery.
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Hey! Good thinking, Samsung Captivate android PMP!!!
As of now i need it as a phone, but when i will get the Galaxy s2 will try this out.
If i use this now, can i flash back other Phone roms again [wan't to flash anything and everything]

anishmahadikz said:
Hey! Good thinking, Samsung Captivate android PMP!!!
As of now i need it as a phone, but when i will get the Galaxy s2 will try this out.
If i use this now, can i flash back other Phone roms again [wan't to flash anything and everything]
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Yep, although Cognition uses Voodoo lagfix and I always play it safe by flashing back to stock before installing a new custom rom.

Cool!! Definitely trying this out!

I don't know if you can add it in but on some roms, ie cm7, there is the previous, play/pause, and next for the media controls on the lock screen which would be probably the 2nd best feature of the touch Rom other than the no phone part
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little8020 said:
I don't know if you can add it in but on some roms, ie cm7, there is the previous, play/pause, and next for the media controls on the lock screen which would be probably the 2nd best feature of the touch Rom other than the no phone part
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Maybe you can try DAGr8's rom, it has 9 lockscreens with media controls, also if i am not wrong, all the 3 roms here have media contols in lockscreen

oh wow. this is a great idea! props!

I'm all for what you are trying to accomplish but I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around this, what does it matter if you still have the phone (that still has the phones functionality) because of your company unless it was a company phone, but if thats the case then why are you modding it to only work as a smaller tablet. This makes me assume that you were issued a company phone other than your cappy? I also assume 2 other things here, you still need it to work wifi and possibly still need a data signal or is this what you need gone al together. to remove the signal bar at the top look in the theme thread about modding the notification bar, I accidently did this one time, I would have to poke around but I manage I could do it again.
But for whatever reason you want to do this have you tried porting a galaxy tab rom to this by chance, is it even possible, I wouldn't know why it wouldn't be possible.

garringm said:
I'm all for what you are trying to accomplish but I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around this, what does it matter if you still have the phone (that still has the phones functionality) because of your company unless it was a company phone, but if thats the case then why are you modding it to only work as a smaller tablet. This makes me assume that you were issued a company phone other than your cappy? I also assume 2 other things here, you still need it to work wifi and possibly still need a data signal or is this what you need gone al together. to remove the signal bar at the top look in the theme thread about modding the notification bar, I accidently did this one time, I would have to poke around but I manage I could do it again.
But for whatever reason you want to do this have you tried porting a galaxy tab rom to this by chance, is it even possible, I wouldn't know why it wouldn't be possible.
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Yes, I had to purchase a non-android device for work and do not want to pay for multiple lines and data plans. The goal was to continue to use the many apps I purchased, improve battery life, and create a more complete expereince. Simply removing the SIM card leave the cell radio software components intact, giving you the emergency call option notification, the missing sim notification, etc. By removing all of the components associated with the phone (except the lost signal notification - sigh) the experience feels "complete" and intentional, rather than hacked together.
If you can figure out how to remove the notification bar that would be great. I am not a developer, coder etc, just a tinkerer who isn't afraid of bricking his phone. As for the Galazy Tab rom, I would not know where to begin.
The ultimate goal will be to port the ROMs from the Galaxy S WIFI 4 and 5, but in the meantime, I will settle for their native apps missing from the captivate.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/01/samsungs-galaxy-s-wifi-4-0-and-5-0-now-rolling-out-to-countries/

Interesting..
I see where you are going with this. Two questions; Does removing all phone functions render wifi useless? Does doing this save significant battery life over airplane mode/no sim?
Thanks!

neubauej said:
Interesting..
I see where you are going with this. Two questions; Does removing all phone functions render wifi useless? Does doing this save significant battery life over airplane mode/no sim?
Thanks!
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I have not tested battery life compared to airplane mode, but Standby on the Cognition variant seems to be 5-7 days.
Wifi, BT, and GPS all work perfectly.

For now as a "hack" to get the look your going for you could possibly edit the stat_sys_signal_null.png to a blank image maybe that will work for you, it will most likely be in SystemUI.apk in /system/app if I had time I would do it myself but issues at home will prevent me from playing with this tonight
EDIT: Sorry for some reason I thought you were on a 2.3 rom, Personally I would suggest you try this with DAGr8 symply galaxy, I just removed SystemUI.apk from it reboot and now have no notification bar at all, but everything seems to be functioniong correctly.
With your 2.2 ROM you will most likely find the null signal png in /framework/framework-res.apk in the res/drawable-hdpi may have v4 on there too.

garringm said:
For now as a "hack" to get the look your going for you could possibly edit the stat_sys_signal_null.png to a blank image maybe that will work for you, it will most likely be in SystemUI.apk in /system/app if I had time I would do it myself but issues at home will prevent me from playing with this tonight
EDIT: Sorry for some reason I thought you were on a 2.3 rom, Personally I would suggest you try this with DAGr8 symply galaxy, I just removed SystemUI.apk from it reboot and now have no notification bar at all, but everything seems to be functioniong correctly.
With your 2.2 ROM you will most likely find the null signal png in /framework/framework-res.apk in the res/drawable-hdpi may have v4 on there too.
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I will try that tonight. Thanks!

garringm said:
For now as a "hack" to get the look your going for you could possibly edit the stat_sys_signal_null.png to a blank image maybe that will work for you, it will most likely be in SystemUI.apk in /system/app if I had time I would do it myself but issues at home will prevent me from playing with this tonight
EDIT: Sorry for some reason I thought you were on a 2.3 rom, Personally I would suggest you try this with DAGr8 symply galaxy, I just removed SystemUI.apk from it reboot and now have no notification bar at all, but everything seems to be functioniong correctly.
With your 2.2 ROM you will most likely find the null signal png in /framework/framework-res.apk in the res/drawable-hdpi may have v4 on there too.
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I was going to suggest the same - simply replace the signal bar images with blank/100% transparent images.

After playing around with it today thats gonna be your best option. Yoi really dont want to remove your bar altogether this hinders your ability to mount to pc or to use debugger
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RKight said:
Awesome. I've thought about getting a second Captivate just for this exact purpose. I like the idea of the iTouch but I'm not a big Apple fan. I like being able to expand my storage and replace a failed battery.
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If u plan on buying an entirely new phone why not just buy a galaxy player if it's out. Its essentially an itouch
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I love this idea. A well developed platform used as a simple media device. It'll blow the doors off anything available designed for that purpose!
Insert GB for bonus points.

I think this would work so much better with ginger and ginger would work so much better as this
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h0ckey10 said:
If u plan on buying an entirely new phone why not just buy a galaxy player if it's out. Its essentially an itouch
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I guess he can unlock the second captivate, use it as pmp. And use it as phone when travelling abroad by going back to the favorite rom. Well, this cannot be achieved on itouch or on Samsung Galaxy pmp.