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http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2010/07/14/droid-x-actually-self-destructs-if-you-try-to-mod-it/
This puts a smile on my face
I bet a lot of people who jumped ship are hitting themselves.
whew almost picked one up today
this is what happens when you freak out about a stupid limitation 2 weeks after release, especially when that limitation essentially gets removed a week later
Holy ****ing ****. Let's hope HTC doesn't go that route... if they do, Android will lose the war.
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Holy ****ing ****. Let's hope HTC doesn't go that route... if they do, Android will lose the war.
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I don't think HTC will, remember they gave away 5000 evos to developers months before the official launch. Lets why the EVO was rooted as soon as it was launched.
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Actually I believe there is another motorola phone out there that uses similar technology. That one has been out for some time now and it still hasn't been rooted.
Don't remember the name of the phone
EDIT: The Motorola Milestone
thats crazy and i wouldnt be surprise if at&t went that route
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Actually I believe there is another motorola phone out there that uses similar technology. That one has been out for some time now and it still hasn't been rooted.
Don't remember the name of the phone
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Milestone, same encrypted bootloader, no self destruct.
They have root, but no bootloader access. So they are now running custom bootloader that runs inside android, boot twice to get into custom rom
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Actually I believe there is another motorola phone out there that uses similar technology. That one has been out for some time now and it still hasn't been rooted.
Don't remember the name of the phone
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The Droid.
that blows, but its kinda like what microsoft did with the 360, they blew the efuses when you went to the newer dash to prevent you from jtagging them.
This is a slap in the face of Google's android open source mentality and all of its developers.
It's going to be interesting how all of this turns out. all of a sudden apple doesn't seem as evil next to motorola.
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This is a slap in the face of Google's android open source mentality and all of its developers.
It's going to be interesting how all of this turns out. all of a sudden apple doesn't seem as evil next to motorola.
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Eh apple still seems just as evil. Moto just seems up there now too
I wonder if Google will step in and say something at some point... I doubt it but if Google were to step in and say "WTF" the companies and the public would take notice.
Apple doesn't have an open source OS on its phone....and how did apple get involved in this?
This is a slap in the face of Google's android open source mentality and all of its developers.
It's going to be interesting how all of this turns
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Eh apple still seems just as evil. Moto just seems up there now too
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This is turning into the xbox 360 scene lol
I am digging my jtag'd 360s
Dat's my vid.
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I wonder if Google will step in and say something at some point... I doubt it but if Google were to step in and say "WTF" the companies and the public would take notice.
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Haha, i'd love to see that, public press conference and the two ceo's of google just step up to the mic and say "WTF GUYS!"
The efuse "self destruct" chip is in all omap3 phones INCLUDING the droid and milestone. The droid has a hacked bootloader and didn't go kaboom. Apparently this chip exists in all these phones but motorola does not actually utilize it (but they could hypothetically).
Now that being said, the milestone and droidx do have locked and encrypted bootloaders. I think they have a lot better chance of getting cracked now cuz there will be a lot more dev attention for the droidx than the milestone.
So no, the droidx will not go BOOM, you got sucked into the hype machine (don't feel bad I did too initially). Still glad I got an evo.
Edit: I will edit myself here with the caveat that motorola might have put a new, more sinister efuse into the droidx. Noone knows for sure until pictures of a bricked phone show up, and not even the most dedicated dev wants to brick his brand new phone on the first day lol.
I really haven't cared for Motorola's Android devices anyways. The Cliq (Dext) was clunky and didn't even go past the Cupcake update. The Droid (Milestone) just didn't feel right in my hands, and I didn't care for the four row physical keyboard rather than the five like on the G1. And now this on the Droid X? I'll be sticking with HTC for a while. They may be slow to update, what with Sense and all, but at least they're not doing crap like this.
I would like to see now those who returned the EVO a got the DroidX...
IT PISSES ME OFF! like on a scale of 1-10, its an 8 for me. motorola is retarded for coming up with that catchphrase. now whenever i am playing with my epic, people say "ohh is that the droid for sprint"? and i say "NO ITS NOT CALLED 'DROID' ITS CALLED A SAMSUNG EPIC 4G. DROID IS A CATCHPHRASE, THE PHONE DOESNT RUN DROID, IT RUNS ANDROID!" sorry i am just ranting, but i know this annoys alot of other android lovers...
I'm not sure if it was Verizon's idea or Motorola to use the "Droid" brand, but every time you hear "Droid" on a Verizon commercial, George Lucas gets paid. Kind of ironic considering he uses an Iphone.
I started a thread on this a year or so ago lol pisses me off something horrible.
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I started a thread on this a year or so ago lol pisses me off something horrible.
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im sure there are tons of threads on this lol. but none in this section
Verizon owns the name...because Droid Incredible and Droid Eris were made by HTC..Verizon spent 100 million on that campaign which really made android break a lot into the market...
That said it does tick me off when people say that..but I don't exactly flip out..I just explain to them that they are wrong and its called Android, and Droid is a marketing campaign by Verizon..and how the Epic is better then any Droid anyways lol
Well it's certainly wrong but it doesn't annoy me that badly. Sometimes if I'm trying to explain to somebody who isn't tech-savvy "Droid" is the only thing they can relate to.
It's really the same thing as Kleenex vs tissue, etc. Like it or not Verizon has created an extremely successful marketing campaign.
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Verizon owns the name...because Droid Incredible and Droid Eris were made by HTC..Verizon spent 100 million on that campaign which really made android break a lot into the market...
That said it does tick me off when people say that..but I don't exactly flip out..I just explain to them that they are wrong and its called Android, and Droid is a marketing campaign by Verizon..and how the Epic is better then any Droid anyways lol
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They don't own the name. "Droid" is a trademark of Lucasfilm industries. Verizon pays commission to use it. Which is one of many reasons why their customers pay $20-$30 more than us.
Yeah it's Verizon, not Motorola
Isn't the "Droids" actual name the Milestone?
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I don't know but for some reason I like the name Droid.I put the droid eye live wallapapers on both my Evo n Epic n even have the sound file that saids Droid on both phone for incoming text.On my Evo I put the Droid start up animation 2.I guess it's because my 1st android phone was a Motorola Droid followed by the Droid Incredible.
It's like people asking what's the difference between an ipod and an mp3 player..... NOTHING!!!!!!!!
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Isn't the "Droids" actual name the Milestone?
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The Milestone is the European version of the Droid.
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i just tell them "these are not the droids your looking for"
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i just tell them "these are not the droids your looking for"
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haha, well played sir.
very annoying, even worse being the people that KNOW what they are talking about (ie, people here) being VERY excessive about it (ie, wallpapers/sounds/themes)
I always just reply "yeah, this is an android based phone so it runs the operating system as the droids and other Android phones."
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Its annoying but I will say this, Verizon and Droid are a HUGE reason Android has been so successful. The Droid commercials are the reason I upgraded from my blackberry to the moment.
I usually just tell people yea its an android based phone same as droid.
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+1 on above... bothers the retentive tech geek in me, but that marketing got the ball moving... that and I'm a little bit of a star wars geek... so I just clarify and proceed to attack iphone
well, i had the VERY first android phone, the G1. so i know it as ANDROID. i think that people that got in the android business before the "droids" came out are a little more...strict when it comes to that catchphrase. that's why it irks me so much. ive had a G1, MT3G, HD2 running android, EVO, and an EPIC.
I was at hooters once and the waitress made the comment "Oh is that the new droid phone" but it wasn't. It was a nexus one and I didn't defend it! Damn their service! It should of been andriod before hooters. Sorry android.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=920804
Is even the lock screen from this possible on our phone?
Yeah.. I should've known better not to click that link. Anyone who knows anything though SHOULD HAVE KNOWN when purchasing a DX what limitations we would have over some other devices.
Although that does look pretty slick, Droid Incs are iphone wannabes, can't stand 'em.
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Yeah.. I should've known better not to click that link. Anyone who knows anything though SHOULD HAVE KNOWN when purchasing a DX what limitations we would have over some other devices.
Although that does look pretty slick, Droid Incs are iphone wannabes, can't stand 'em.
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Inc's are nowhere near iphone wannabes. I have both and while i love my X my incredilbe is still easier to use and hack. Title says it all especially after moto's blunder yesterday on the atrix page. Come on moto, you really arent working on anything and if you are it will probably mean a new developer device and not a fix for those of us working with the current ones.
read on for info if you havent seen it. http://phandroid.com/2011/01/19/motorola-locked-bootloaders-stay-you-can-go-elsewhere/
Motorola cleared up what that one, YouTube manager, employee said. It doesn't mean the bootloader will be unlocked, but they commented and it can only help.
http://www.droid-life.com/2011/01/1...bootloaders-looks-to-partner-with-developers/
If by "cleared up" you mean heaped a load of dung over it in an attempt to hide the smell of their previous ****ty response...
yep, they did that good!
Go here
http://getsatisfaction.com/motorola/topics/bootloader-1egega
And tell Motorola what you think about their locked bootloader
That's just the acer launcher. I have a file for the liquid metal launcher.
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also. Incredibles are nothing like iPhones. They are sick ass phones. Anywhoo on the good side of things motorola either tweeted or said on facebook that they would be working towards making their phone developer phones again and marked the locked bootloader section on their support forums as "implemented"
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Motorola cleared up what that one, YouTube manager, employee said. It doesn't mean the bootloader will be unlocked, but they commented and it can only help.
http://www.droid-life.com/2011/01/1...bootloaders-looks-to-partner-with-developers/
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Its just for the press, they don't mean it.
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Yeah.. I should've known better not to click that link. Anyone who knows anything though SHOULD HAVE KNOWN when purchasing a DX what limitations we would have over some other devices.
Although that does look pretty slick, Droid Incs are iphone wannabes, can't stand 'em.
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The inc is by far the best phone on Verizon right now in regards to hacking and ROM's. Anyone who hates on it is, well, is a hater The X is a good phone in terms of hardware, but the inc community is simply awesome. iphone it is not.
Motorola is listening guys! It may not happen with the X, 2, but I'm willing to bet the new moto phones will be more easy to manipulate. They see how it will hurt them in terms of future sales.
I really doubt it would hurt much when it comes to sales since a majority of Droid owners know nothing of the phones true potential. Although that was a crappy statement to make on motorola's part. As a consumer it really makes me think twice on what phone I will purchase next.
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I really doubt it would hurt much when it comes to sales since a majority of Droid owners know nothing of the phones true potential. Although that was a crappy statement to make on motorola's part. As a consumer it really makes me think twice on what phone I will purchase next.
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Even though the average consumer wont be rooting and what not, I'm sure many of these average users will read the comments of all the Modders and be put off on buying a moto: phone.
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That's just the acer launcher. I have a file for the liquid metal launcher.
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You want to post it?
Google aquiring Motorola Mobility.
http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2011/08/supercharging-android-google-to-acquire.html?m=1
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Sounds like google is finally gonna get some type of protection from that cry baby *teve $obs, i mean he can only have some many lawsuites before people start getting tired of his failed attempts to keep iPhone on top
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I like the name Motoroogle (from an article i read on Extreme Tech) Has a nice ring too it. Lol
This is great! We now know who is bringing the next nexus phone! and they will probably be doing it for a long time. This was probably the best company to merge with
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This is great! We now know who is bringing the next nexus phone! and they will probably be doing it for a long time. This was probably the best company to merge with
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Yeah i agree,and if they stay sensitive to allowing us control of our phones then when Htc or other partners get outta line Motoroogle will tell'm shape up or no more for you.
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This is great! We now know who is bringing the next nexus phone! and they will probably be doing it for a long time. This was probably the best company to merge with
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Do we? Don't most of the rumors still strongly point to Samsung?
Personally I dig it only because I like Google and want to see them armed with an arsenal of patents so that Android won't be killed by patent trolls. Never had a Moto phone myself but I haven't heard great things. Aren't they known for having crappy, break apart build quality?
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Do we? Don't most of the rumors still strongly point to Samsung?
Personally I dig it only because I like Google and want to see them armed with an arsenal of patents so that Android won't be killed by patent trolls. Never had a Moto phone myself but I haven't heard great things. Aren't they known for having crappy, break apart build quality?
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yeah its still up in the air to who the next nexus phone is going too.
Well I will probably get flack for this, but here goes. Before you get all happy about this aquisition by Google. Remember who Motorola has been in bed with for the better part of their phone "Greatness" , Verizon . The original we're going to throttle your data, you better not be tethering (even though your paying for unlimited) , if we can't charge you for it you can't do it, we're going to control everything you do on your phone carrier. So even though it's Google new company, the employees are still the old regime. With the old habits, especially the Executives. I'll always remember a quote from one of Verizon's press releases stating " the Companies bottom line is always the most important aspect in considerations involving customers" . I understand this true for any company. But to say it in a press release like that says a lot about how they perceive their customer base. Yes, I understand this is only my opinon
No flack here,you make avalid point
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Google should have bought HTC.
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Google should have bought HTC.
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Yeah but do they have the patent portfolio tomake themselves as attractive? Hardware would have been superior.
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VICODAN said:
Google should have bought HTC.
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Couldn't agree more. I was just thinking that when I read about it our newspaper this morning.
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Couldn't agree more. I was just thinking that when I read about it our newspaper this morning.
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Wouldn't make sense. HTC makes great phones but do not have the large patent portfolio that Moto has built up over many years in the mobile industry.
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i live in seattle and googles from redmond, theyve been on the news about this quite a bit and theyve even said themselves they just wanted the patent portfolio to help in defending android and the developers against apple, microsoft and the rest of the other bull**** patent trolls.
I see where this will certainly help Google, and Motorola, with regards to patent lawsuits. But how will this help Samsung, and HTC? Is Google going to step in, and say "Get out of here, patent troll....check this out....PWNT!!!"
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I see where this will certainly help Google, and Motorola, with regards to patent lawsuits. But how will this help Samsung, and HTC? Is Google going to step in, and say "Get out of here, patent troll....check this out....PWNT!!!"
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I'd imagine that since these patents are typically incredibly vague such as "scrolling menus" that if Apple sues HTC or Samsung over infringing on one of their vaguely worded patents then Google could jump in and brandish one of their equally vague patents and say that Google actually has the patent for it, not Apple.
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just so yall know i didnt see a splash screen for this new motoroogle or googlerola or whatever you want lol (it has only been a day) so i decided to make one. I posted it on im.nick.hellos new thread for splash screens along with some others i made.
I just have to wait for him to convert them into splash img format and a flashable.
SO GO CHECK IT OUT
BTW: I hope im not hijacking the thread. I dont think i am because it is technically about the thread in a way. but if i am please set me straight!
Edit: In regards to the post above there is no real reason to buy HTC
1)they are doing great on there own
2) HTC would not give up sense and google would not want sense
3) HTC would be like 3X the amount that Motorola was
4)Motorola already had made the commitment to android and that was its sole operating system unlike HTC where they make phones for WP7 and Android.
4) Motorolas patent portfolio is much bigger
5) Motorolas not getting sued lol
Just my 2 cents theres probably other reasons too
Google did it for the Patents
I heard its to help cover their a$$ with apple lawsuits
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You know it is,to go from having 317 patents to over 17,000 sure change the game. Literally from defense to offense,see if they give apple some of their own medicine .
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http://androidspin.com/2011/08/30/amazonappstore-free-app-of-the-day-%E2%80%93-dxtop-pro-home-alternative/
Wow. I had not heard too much about this home replacement, but it is really different enough from the pack (LPP, ADW, Go) that I figured i'd laud it here.
I was going to completely pass on this until I saw this from you. Thanks for the heads up, the screens of it look pretty cool.
Strange, in Android Market is free and has good reviews. In Amazon Marketplace its $2.99 (free for today) and has awful reviews...
Kind of conflicted here.
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Strange, in Android Market is free and has good reviews. In Amazon Marketplace its $2.99 (free for today) and has awful reviews...
Kind of conflicted here.
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There's a lite and paid version
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megabiteg said:
Strange, in Android Market is free and has good reviews. In Amazon Marketplace its $2.99 (free for today) and has awful reviews...
Kind of conflicted here.
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I seem to notice many of the 'free apps of the day' have bad reviews because people CONSTANTLY complain about permissions. Always asking "why does this need SD card access, why does this need GPS" blah blah blah. Then they rate it 1 star.
It's rediculous.
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I seem to notice many of the 'free apps of the day' have bad reviews because people CONSTANTLY complain about permissions. Always asking "why does this need SD card access, why does this need GPS" blah blah blah. Then they rate it 1 star.
It's rediculous.
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I have no respect for Amazon reviews (software) anymore....
I forgot about dxTop!! I used that a while ago.
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I'm running MIUI, otherwise I'd try it. I went ahead and added it to my paid apps list on Amazon, though.
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I forgot about dxTop!! I used that a while ago.
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Wasn't it the first home replacement ?
DX Top is home replacement app and not a launcher like GO.
Its nice but it eats up ram and cpu and battery.I used to use app like these when i first started messing with android but now i know better.
But good lookin for this post,we do need posts like these that promote good apps but no spam.
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DX Top is home replacement app and not a launcher like GO.
Its nice but it eats up ram and cpu and battery.I used to use app like these when i first started messing with android but now i know better.
But good lookin for this post,we do need posts like these that promote good apps but no spam.
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Those are the same thing
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lviv73 said:
DX Top is home replacement app and not a launcher like GO.
Its nice but it eats up ram and cpu and battery.I used to use app like these when i first started messing with android but now i know better.
But good lookin for this post,we do need posts like these that promote good apps but no spam.
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Yeah, it feels bulkier than go, but I figure I'll try for a while. Was getting a bit bored.
I saw it's been around a bit, all the themes and then threads were circa 2009!
Is there a difference between a home replacement and a launcher? (App drawer, screens, etc)
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Is there a difference between a home replacement and a launcher? (App drawer, screens, etc)
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No, they are the same, just different names for them.
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No, they are the same, just different names for them.
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No,launchers(Pro launcher,Zeam,GO,etc..) are just what the name implies.They are light and don't have big imprint on system resources.
Now Home Replacements while similar to Launchers use a lot more ram,cpu and battery.
Home Replacement is not just a launcher but complete android overhaul kinda like Sense,Twiz,Breeze UI etc..
I don't discourage people from using them because they offer a lot of visual eye candy but will drain your battery faster(in most cases).With GO Launcher you can get nice visual effects and good performance-i tried almost all of them and GO is the best i found,Zeam is nice too but don't look as good.
For those that wanna try Home Replacements there is Panda Home,Home++,LG Home,Metro UI just to name a few.
Here is a good article on Launchers/HM Replacements http://kschang.hubpages.com/hub/Droid-Home-Replacement-App-Comparison it has almost all Launchers and home Replacements.
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Yeah, it feels bulkier than go, but I figure I'll try for a while. Was getting a bit bored.
I saw it's been around a bit, all the themes and then threads were circa 2009!
Is there a difference between a home replacement and a launcher? (App drawer, screens, etc)
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For those that wanna try Home Replacements there is Panda Home,Home++,LG Home,Metro UI just to name a few.
Here is a good article on Launchers/HM Replacements http://kschang.hubpages.com/hub/Droid-Home-Replacement-App-Comparison it has almost all Launchers and home Replacements.
If you bored with Epic try SPB Shell you will feel like you have a new phone.Wave Launcher is another unique one it mimics WebOS.
Where did you learn that "Home Replacements" are different than "Launchers?"
I'm not arguing that you're wrong, but what I've read contradicts whatyou say, so i'd like to be sure I know what I'm talking about
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Overstew said:
I'm running MIUI, otherwise I'd try it. I went ahead and added it to my paid apps list on Amazon, though.
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Hope u like the chinesse government having complete control over your phone as the chinesse company developed miui.
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Hope u like the chinesse government having complete control over your phone as the chinesse company developed miui.
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Who cares?Most american companies sold out to asia years ago,i wouldnt care if afganistan developed miui.
zanderman112 said:
Where did you learn that "Home Replacements" are different than "Launchers?"
I'm not arguing that you're wrong, but what I've read contradicts whatyou say, so i'd like to be sure I know what I'm talking about
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You may be right idk,but to me there is a difference between two because apps like Dxtop and Panda Home do more things than launchers but with GO,Pro and ADW that line seams to be blurring.