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looool, I was just downloading the Pancake rom because it seemed stripped down. I am going to wait for you to finish uploading...lol
A completely stripped UI is exactly what I want.

download link is up.

blankd3ckskat3r said:
ok, first off, id like to thank damageless, gbhil, bikcmp, darchstar, flipzmode. JsChiSurf, and the rest of the xda & android community.
This rom is based off of Pancake, which is also based off of damagecontrol. I dont have a name for it, so if youd like, send me some suggestions.
i made this rom to suite my own needs. i stripped all of the useless apps (useless to me)
removed:
All htc widgets except Clock and Weather.
All Sprint apps including VVM
GSD.apk
Fieldtest.apk
Flickr
HtcFacebook
Facebook
Learnmore
Device Self Service
Ringtones
amd some others i cant think of right now
the purpose of this is to basicly have a clean setup for anyone to mess with, to add their own apks and such.
I have added the white taskbar theme by JsChiSurf. Overall its a nice clean fast rom.
I dont know if ill be frequently updating this rom. if i get enough people that like it, sure why not.
Well with all that said and done, here goes:
http://www.mediafire.com/?1q2wdjumzy2
Let me know of any bugs you find and ill try to update, as i use this on my own phone.
i take no credit for anything. i didnt create the rom i just deleted and added things.
if you like the rom and want to add suggestions go ahead i also wouldnt mind donations, although i know the work isnt mine, i still took the time out to post this and make it how i want it. https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webs...=PP-DonationsBF:btn_donateCC_LG.gif:NonHosted
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Nice, can't wait to see it. By the way, a good name for it would be Waffle, ice-cream, popsicle (I like that one), anything that is bad for your health really .
Best of luck with your ROM .

bikcmp said:
Nice, can't wait to see it. By the way, a good name for it would be Waffle, ice-cream, popsicle (I like that one), anything that is bad for your health really .
Best of luck with your ROM .
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thanks man. i was gonna pm u to see if you would mind me posting it. you werent online at the time. if you dont want me posting stuff off your work let me know and ill take it down

Poundcake?

blankd3ckskat3r said:
thanks man. i was gonna pm u to see if you would mind me posting it. you werent online at the time. if you dont want me posting stuff off your work let me know and ill take it down
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Lol his work...

Does this have Sense UI?
Can you run Espresso or Rosie on this?

damageless said:
Lol his work...
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i meant his work as in the speed optimizations. i know everything came from you, and i greatly appriciate it, i didnt mean any harm towards you. matter of fact your the first person i thanked

jonesdana said:
Can you run Espresso or Rosie on this?
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it includes sense. its the the theme from JsChiSurf

I keep getting corrupt file system/lib/libwebcore.so when attempting to install.
E:Verification failed
Installation aborted.

BlankDroid kinda nice ring to it..

amdhunter said:
I keep getting corrupt file system/lib/libwebcore.so when attempting to install.
E:Verification failed
Installation aborted.
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Maybe a bad download. Try redownloading. And you gotta wipe before flashing. If you still have a problem let me know.

does this look familiar?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=654300
I guess its a different rom tho. I don't have the white taskbar.

blankd3ckskat3r said:
Maybe a bad download. Try redownloading. And you gotta wipe before flashing. If you still have a problem let me know.
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Yeah. Redownloaded - same prob. Maybe someone else can verify?

regaw_leinad said:
does this look familiar?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=654300
I guess its a different rom tho. I don't have the white taskbar.
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? I never used your Rom. Never looked at the page to be honest.

I'm about to request this thread be closed. Obviously people have a problem with me editing roms. I thanked everyone and said its not my work. If its such a problem ill take it down.

regaw_leinad said:
does this look familiar?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=654300
I guess its a different rom tho. I don't have the white taskbar.
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lol, maybe you shoulda done some md5checksums before accusing people of stealing work. I'm not ripping on you, it was an honest mistake, but it really hurts when you tell someone else they stole your work without doing any self checks.

keep it open..more variety doesn't hurt. not sure why everyone gets so worked about who did what, etc., esp when you gave credit where it was due. xda is a developer community i thought building off other peoples work and sharing your own is a part of being in a developer community.

ZenEXP-Eris - Old thread

Please see my new thread located here.
Mods: If you see this before someone responds to my PM, please merge the replies from this thread into my new one, if you wouldn't mind
Thank you.
PS: Please DO NOT bump this thread. Let it die off into the archives.

Thanks so much for your help!

mwest316 said:
Thanks so much for your help!
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Anytime

hmmmmm why not just go in with hector93 to improve the ROM? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=671757
unless u plan to go a different direction?

bigslanki said:
hmmmmm why not just go in with hector93 to improve the ROM? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=671757
unless u plan to go a different direction?
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I agree instead of undercutting another chef, why don't you try something new? Just a suggestion.

bigslanki said:
hmmmmm why not just go in with hector93 to improve the ROM? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=671757
unless u plan to go a different direction?
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Yes, I do intend to go in another direction.. well, a slightly different direction anyway.
Spencer_Moore said:
I agree instead of undercutting another chef, why don't you try something new? Just a suggestion.
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I didn't undercut anybody. I spoke directly to Hector and obtained his permission to post this up before posting it.
On a side note, I felt my post would be easier for other's to read and use, since Hector had only posted a paragraph and a link to zenulator's original Hero ROM thread. He's, since then, copied info from zenulator's post and fixed his post up.

On a side note, I felt my post would be easier for other's to read and use, since Hector had only posted a paragraph and a link to zenulator's original Hero ROM thread. He's, since then, copied info from zenulator's post and fixed his post up.[/QUOTE]
I was just saying. As long as you got approval, then I'm all for it.

Spencer_Moore said:
On a side note, I felt my post would be easier for other's to read and use, since Hector had only posted a paragraph and a link to zenulator's original Hero ROM thread. He's, since then, copied info from zenulator's post and fixed his post up.
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I was just saying. As long as you got approval, then I'm all for it.[/QUOTE]
No worries, Spencer. I can understand how it could seem like I was overstepping my boundries on this one.
-mak

Is there any way you can get rid of the background image on the icons? To be honest they look like the xPhone and takes away from the Sense UI, which is crisp and clean.

when uploading roms, i suggest using multiupload..
rs gives users a maximum of 10 downloads before killing the link..
just a fyi

xuser said:
Is there any way you can get rid of the background image on the icons? To be honest they look like the xPhone and takes away from the Sense UI, which is crisp and clean.
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I'll definitely look into it
SoCalSpecialist said:
when uploading roms, i suggest using multiupload..
rs gives users a maximum of 10 downloads before killing the link..
just a fyi
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I'm a rapidshare premium member, so there shouldn't be a 10 download limit on my links, but thank you for the heads up

wi-fi not working.

WOW. This looks mighty nice. I wish I wasnt on vacation still and could flash to this. Nice work mang!

Nice looking rom. Not as functional as I need it to be to take it's place of my everyday rom, but it's still nice to look at.

xuser said:
wi-fi not working.
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I found that as well, bluetooth also isn't working. I'll try to repair this for Rev2.
stopxstart said:
Nice looking rom. Not as functional as I need it to be to take it's place of my everyday rom, but it's still nice to look at.
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May I ask what you've come across that isn't functional enough to make it your daily? Maybe I can help..

ok heres a buglist for u ( standard for all ported ROMs )
1 . wifi not working
2. bluetooth not working
3. accelerometer not working
4. notifications not working
5. not all apps showing up in marketplace

SoCalSpecialist said:
ok heres a buglist for u ( standard for all ported ROMs )
1 . wifi not working
2. bluetooth not working
3. accelerometer not working
4. notifications not working
5. not all apps showing up in marketplace
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Thank you. I'll do my best to get these cleared up asap.
Edit: I've asked zenulator for help to expedite the repairs, but I'm still working on fixing these issues..

ZenEXP 0.9.4.2 Port Rev2 is now up, it includes some minor fixes that were pretty annoying in Rev1. Changelog is in the first post.
-mak

.mak said:
ZenEXP 0.9.4.2 Port Rev2 is now up, it includes some minor fixes that were pretty annoying in Rev1. Changelog is in the first post.
-mak
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Just tried your Rev2 and I like it! It's quick and I haven't found a problem yet. Will bt it to my car radio on the way home. The icons are different than I am used to but they are growing on me...sort of Ipod Touchish. Good job!

It appears as though your extra downloads aren't signed...at least that is the message I got when I tried to flash.

kingxklick slide 2 g1 1.4

kings 1.4 is out at kingxklick.com if anyones interested

Edit
10 char

smjfosho said:
Mods close this
He was banned, don't post things about him
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its perfectly fine to post this...
its not like klick is posting it. There are many threads on xda of Devs who have been banned/left xda (and they are some of the best roms)

why was he banned?

Wow
People get all crazy. He's a dev and just because you don't like him doesn't mean you have to go out like some psycho and call a dev to close a thread about him. If you don't like him, then avoid threads with his name in it! However, I love his roms and continue to use them.

Wanna pm me the link?
nvm got it. If only there was a changelog :\

smjfosho said:
Mods close this
He was banned, don't post things about him
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WOW!!! That is a bit of a childish comment!! Sorry not trying to flame but hell

protomanez said:
Wanna pm me the link?
nvm got it. If only there was a changelog :\
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Version 1.4
- New base full wipe update
- Fasted release yet – I AM SERIOUS (getting towards the end of development until A newer leak I am afraid)
- Rougly 75% optimized
- Fixed some syntax errors in vital scripts
- Cleaned up each boot
- Fixed Permissions issues
- Cleaned up build
its on the main page . GUYS PLEASE USE THE TORRENT DOWNLOAD FOR THIS. My webserver is upset!

wow
some people really hate king which is really funny cause i remember when he would put out some of the best hero roms out there (still does) and people were on his d*&% and now he gets accused of stealing work haha and gets banned hahahahah who cares everyone copies other devs work.
P.S.
his rom is on his forum http://kingxklick.com/?p=21

nice to see someone is still working on a sense rom too bad for whoever was working on the aria rom that was never released... got my hopes up for nothing and legend was even greater disappointment... legend could have been great but now its a legend of the past...

God this rom...is fricking beautiful... *cries*

xftox said:
everyone copies other devs work.
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Isn't that the point of "OPEN SOURCE" I mean lets be honest here. No dev and I mean NO as in NONE OF THEM build an android Rom from scratch. They take from the release and build it to what they want right?? So.... what did King really do? He didn't give credit?? Funny I look through these thread and no one gives credit to Android or HTC or anyone like that. Ban them all I guess!!
Just a noobs opinion!!

Thanks for the link, I'll install tomorrow!

skater4690 said:
nice to see someone is still working on a sense rom too bad for whoever was working on the aria rom that was never released... got my hopes up for nothing and legend was even greater disappointment... legend could have been great but now its a legend of the past...
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Aria has been more difficult than originally thought but i sure someone will have one out soon dont give up hope

He is actually giving credit to other devs for it on his site, its a decent list so it prolly is just all of their work with one thing changed by him again.
It is not the fact he did not give credit that bugs me it is the fact that he would take someones rom change one thing then call it his own, if he really knew how to dev there would be more work on his end.

ionic7 said:
He is actually giving credit to other devs for it on his site, its a decent list so it prolly is just all of their work with one thing changed by him again.
It is not the fact he did not give credit that bugs me it is the fact that he would take someones rom change one thing then call it his own, if he really knew how to dev there would be more work on his end.
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You mean like Defcons CM6 Test builds? I'm pretty sure he didnt even change anything just a straight rip from cyans github and nobody got on his ass about it. Cyanogen even helped him out a little stop hating on King just cuz it was the thing to do like 2 weeks ago every dev is using the work of others and calling it their own with a few little changes else every Rom should have the words HTC or Google in the title. Cyan changes quite a bit but in reality its just a drop in the bucket compared to the original work put into the source we're all handed and encouraged to freely modify and distribute any way we desire with or without credit given

Huh?
ionic7 said:
He is actually giving credit to other devs for it on his site, its a decent list so it prolly is just all of their work with one thing changed by him again.
It is not the fact he did not give credit that bugs me it is the fact that he would take someones rom change one thing then call it his own, if he really knew how to dev there would be more work on his end.
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Then why don't you get everyones work and make a rom out of it? I honestly don't think that it's easy to dev, spending hours on tedious work. He still put it together and got it running which is more than I can do alone. Is a giant Android Jesus going to come down and smite him of his deving powers? No. He puts time into it, that's all I need to know. I see roms like someone mentioned before of roms from Cyo's github and his other mods. People got crazy a while back when someone made a rom from Cyo's github for a rom that Cyo hadn't even released and he had to lock the thread...why? Because people get butthurt and think that it's "stealing" or whatever they want to call it. Every dev is different, they have their own preferences and all have different setups. Some create things for other developers to use. >:O

So sad KingKlik got banned...But Credit giving has been a big issue..
Do u guys remember the early day the 1.1 days..And the ROm theme Skins..
Some guy Tootall4la?? And His Frankenstein Theme??
He Made a theme and every once in awhile would change up his theme..i think he copy and pasted 2 or 3 things on to his theme from another theme..he thought it would be a good addition to his theme..and BAM!! he got banned?? he didnt source the things he got but cmon--Thats were the Frankenstein name came in..its made up of different parts..
Everytime there will be a different guinea pig to attack
I thought it was Open Sourced Project..
but any ways KingKliK I Fully Support Your ROMS!!!
Outstanding WORK!!!!!

Fact.
You guys are thinking way too hard.. open source means... Like a definition?
http://tinyurl.com/33acugo
Also, it is not about giving credit to HTC and Google, they know we are here and this community has permision to do modding and rebuilds of the source...
As I was saying king was using other people's work then, would call it his own, and he never gave credit to the work and mods done by others, had he done that he would still be here and maybe wold have finished a rom (completely).
People please stop saying we should just forget the meaning of open source... open source does not mean and is not an excuse for copying others work. Also if your defending him.. put some thought into it.

infinitybiff said:
Version 1.4
- New base full wipe update
- Fasted release yet – I AM SERIOUS (getting towards the end of development until A newer leak I am afraid)
- Rougly 75% optimized
- Fixed some syntax errors in vital scripts
- Cleaned up each boot
- Fixed Permissions issues
- Cleaned up build
its on the main page . GUYS PLEASE USE THE TORRENT DOWNLOAD FOR THIS. My webserver is upset!
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So he has fixed nothing as normal but it gos like a bat out of hell.
In other words he is using a new version on winzip
And you forgot to add the credits to the people that did the DEV work in your post!

Central location for all Things Cdma Hero

Hey guys, so i spent a few hours and set up a new central repository for everything cdma hero.
Roms - Both CM Froyo 2.2 and Eclair 2.1
Apps2SD
Froyo Battery Tweaks
HTC Sync
Recoveries
CM 6.0 Froyo Nightly is posted as soon as it is available.
Check it out, let me know what you think....
http://heroc.frederickcomputers.info

I think we tried this in the past and failed miserably.

Well i will keep it up, and see how it goes. Can't hurt to have a one stop shop for heroc stuff.

Very cool of you I would not mind having a 2nd mirror for my rom.

You should should include the overclock kernels from urushiol's thread. Good work so far, keep it up.
Sent from my HERO200 using XDA App

theresthatguy said:
Very cool of you I would not mind having a 2nd mirror for my rom.
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I will grab it and post it up
bcarter2000 said:
You should should include the overclock kernels from urushiol's thread. Good work so far, keep it up.
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These too.

theresthatguy said:
Very cool of you I would not mind having a 2nd mirror for my rom.
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Franken Rom is up.....

pfrederickjr said:
Hey guys, so i spent a few hours and set up a new central repository for everything cdma hero.
Roms - Both CM Froyo 2.2 and Eclair 2.1
Apps2SD
Froyo Battery Tweaks
HTC Sync
Recoveries
CM 6.0 Froyo Nightly is posted as soon as it is available.
Check it out, let me know what you think....
http://heroc.frederickcomputers.info
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Setup a Video Tutorial Section as well. Working on a Kernel section, but that is a long process.

sticky this bad boy!
edit: a radio explanation/tutorial would be nice

Sputnikk23 said:
sticky this bad boy!
edit: a radio explanation/tutorial would be nice
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Added radio tutorial in the radios section.
Thanks for the suggestion.

Sounds good to me, you can pop my info in there if ya want, but is there any pre-reqs? (like I am a kitchen user, and modder, not really a dev) but my rom does cater to 'special' needs I suppose, and anyone can use what I got.
SouthPaw!1.5-Final-(for Cellular South users): http://www.mediafire.com/?7ro6qczcoqcxtip
Also just fyi if it saves any time you can take a peek @ my thread in the 2nd post I have compiled a favorable amount of how-to's for my users since most on my carrier are just now getting into the root/rom scene: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=731404 and I don't mind if you need to copy/paste anything.
Lovin' the fun stuff videos btw.
And another suggestion is if you would see if the modders/themers would let you grace your pages with their stuff as well.

Was just checking the site, pretty sweet man, very well organized. My two cents of what to add (and this is just anything I could think of):
1) Blue Echo & Red Dawn (by Papa Smurf)
2) cSrOm (by crunchybutternut)
3) Themes section for both 2.1 and 2.2 (in my experience, themes are the hardest to find)
4) Alternative bootscreens for both 2.1 and 2.2
5) Apps that aren't on the Market anymore (e.g., Fancy Widget, Skype Beta, etc.)
Not sure if all of those are even possible, but that's all I got right now. Keep up the great work man.

hexskrew said:
Sounds good to me, you can pop my info in there if ya want, but is there any pre-reqs? (like I am a kitchen user, and modder, not really a dev) but my rom does cater to 'special' needs I suppose, and anyone can use what I got.
SouthPaw!1.5-Final-(for Cellular South users): http://www.mediafire.com/?7ro6qczcoqcxtip
Also just fyi if it saves any time you can take a peek @ my thread in the 2nd post I have compiled a favorable amount of how-to's for my users since most on my carrier are just now getting into the root/rom scene: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=731404 and I don't mind if you need to copy/paste anything.
Lovin' the fun stuff videos btw.
And another suggestion is if you would see if the modders/themers would let you grace your pages with their stuff as well.
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I have SouthPaw up. I also posted your guide under the SouthPaw download section, along with the rooting guide for cell south.

tquetano said:
Was just checking the site, pretty sweet man, very well organized. My two cents of what to add (and this is just anything I could think of):
1) Blue Echo & Red Dawn (by Papa Smurf)
2) cSrOm (by crunchybutternut)
3) Themes section for both 2.1 and 2.2 (in my experience, themes are the hardest to find)
4) Alternative bootscreens for both 2.1 and 2.2
5) Apps that aren't on the Market anymore (e.g., Fancy Widget, Skype Beta, etc.)
Not sure if all of those are even possible, but that's all I got right now. Keep up the great work man.
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Ok, i added Blue Echo, Red Dawn, and cSrOm. Themes are started but are going to take some time and a lot of work before it is anything respectable. I am not enitirely sure how i feel about posting apps, don't want to have any sort of legel battles over it. I will look at boot screens once i get done with the themes section.
Thanks for the suggestions, keep em coming guys.
I am toying with the idea of allowing devs to upload their roms to the site themselves, anybody have any thoughts on the subject?

pfrederickjr said:
Ok, i added Blue Echo, Red Dawn, and cSrOm. Themes are started but are going to take some time and a lot of work before it is anything respectable. I am not enitirely sure how i feel about posting apps, don't want to have any sort of legel battles over it. I will look at boot screens once i get done with the themes section.
Thanks for the suggestions, keep em coming guys.
I am toying with the idea of allowing devs to upload their roms to the site themselves, anybody have any thoughts on the subject?
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I was actually thinking about that myself. Would make it easier for you and weed out nonsupported material.
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i love that we call our phone the Heroc because were the cdma version
why dont we just call it the Heroic?

Looks like the thread got moved, going to push over more themes today. Still would like to hear from some devs. Like who would want to be able to upload their own stuff to the site.

Redesigned the site, CM 6.0 RC1 is up along with the latest nightlies. Also the uncapped kernel for CM.

Sharing knowledge..

Ok so after i have seen many people asking about doing things like porting and how to add power menu options and lockscreens( includes me ), i wanted to ask you guys if you can start sharing things like adding power menu options and adding lockscreens here..how to edit settings.apk to show lockscreens option..how to edit mod version when is written in the apk itself.. things like that..im not asking for something wrong right ????
So basicly this is like a guide just like the one jellette posted sometime before here in general, lets make an all in one guide so people dont be all over the place asking posts twice ...well i think i will benefit about this too since i have entered the dev world and its hard lol...no sleepeng well, not eating well, thats me i dont know about you...so what you guys think.. ?
Is this wrong ??
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bosina said:
Ok so after i have seen many people asking about doing things like porting and how to add power menu options and lockscreens( includes me ), i wanted to ask you guys if you can start sharing things like adding power menu options and adding lockscreens here..how to edit settings.apk to show lockscreens option..how to edit mod version when is written in the apk itself.. things like that..im not asking for something wrong right ????
So basicly this is like a guide just like the one jellette posted sometime before here in general, lets make an all in one guide so people dont be all over the place asking posts twice ...well i think i will benefit about this too since i have entered the dev world and its hard lol...no sleepeng well, not eating well, thats me i dont know about you...so what you guys think.. ?
Is this wrong ??
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The problem, Bosina, is that people are always asking for guides that already exist here on the site. A search of xda will show you how to add am / pm toggle, lockscreens, power options, porting apps etc..

jellette said:
The problem, Bosina, is that people are always asking for guides that already exist here on the site. A search of xda will show you how to add am / pm toggle, lockscreens, power options, porting apps etc..
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Hmm i see brother.... but i have seen some settings apk i have tried for the lockscreens that have the mod version there and i havent found out how to change it.. there are things that can be shared here..
Sent from my SGH-T959 using XDA Premium App

Let me also add that sending a dev a request and only giving two options: tell me how or write a guide is not the way to request help. There is a 3rd and 4th option: walk me through it when you get the time (like I have done a lot) or don't help if you don't have the free time right now.
A dev works hard to pump out the best roms. They do not always have the time to walk away from their own project to fix someone elses.
I recently walked a "dev" through a port 100% from start to finish. That earned me a little line of thanks at the bottom of his OP and earned him a big arse line at the top of his OP stating that HE worked real hard to get the port bug free.... This ruins it for others, like yourself, when you ask for help.

Can I write you a guide and send you some files please?

jellette said:
Let me also add that sending a dev a request and only giving two options: tell me how or write a guide is not the way to request help. There is a 3rd and 4th option: walk me through it when you get the time (like I have done a lot) or don't help if you don't have the free time right now.
A dev works hard to pump out the best roms. They do not always have the time to walk away from their own project to fix someone elses.
I recently walked a "dev" through a port 100% from start to finish. That earned me a little line of thanks at the bottom of his OP and earned him a big arse line at the top of his OP stating that HE worked real hard to get the port bug free.... This ruins it for others, like yourself, when you ask for help.
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who did this, that whore.

I usually have no trouble teaching someone or sharing any knowledge I (might) have, but when people message me and want things but have no idea how or why something is, it's annoying.
I know that's a little vague, so let me make it clearer: if you are going to PM someone and ask them how to do something you damn well better make sure of the following
1) you have Google searched the issue for at least 9999 hours
---- (tip: try using "site:xda-developers.com" in google)
2) you have tried doing this yourself
3) you at least have some idea of how whatever you're asking about works
4) you aren't asking said person TO do it, but rather HOW
And Bosina (and everyone else), I know guides are useful and all... but anyone can follow a guide. You need to learn HOW this stuff works

jellette said:
Let me also add that sending a dev a request and only giving two options: tell me how or write a guide is not the way to request help. There is a 3rd and 4th option: walk me through it when you get the time (like I have done a lot) or don't help if you don't have the free time right now.
A dev works hard to pump out the best roms. They do not always have the time to walk away from their own project to fix someone elses.
I recently walked a "dev" through a port 100% from start to finish. That earned me a little line of thanks at the bottom of his OP and earned him a big arse line at the top of his OP stating that HE worked real hard to get the port bug free.... This ruins it for others, like yourself, when you ask for help.
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ohh i see , thanks for that since i did that and i had no idea on what i was doing ..remember ? now that im a little into this, i know how hard you guys work for this..bro i go bed at 3 almost everyday just tryinbg to fix some frames in framwork ..damm i feel you jellette...sorry for those times i did that error and dammmmmmm, that he had to work hard to get port free ?? hmmm i wouldnt do that really...believe me..i always thank you for all you have done for the comunity and for me...

SkOrPn said:
Can I write you a guide and send you some files please?
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you could,

birgertime said:
I usually have no trouble teaching someone or sharing any knowledge I (might) have, but when people message me and want things but have no idea how or why something is, it's annoying.
I know that's a little vague, so let me make it clearer: if you are going to PM someone and ask them how to do something you damn well better make sure of the following
1) you have Google searched the issue for at least 9999 hours
---- (tip: try using "site:xda-developers.com" in google)
2) you have tried doing this yourself
3) you at least have some idea of how whatever you're asking about works
4) you aren't asking said person TO do it, but rather HOW
And Bosina (and everyone else), I know guides are useful and all... but anyone can follow a guide. You need to learn HOW this stuff works
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ya i feel you roman

xriderx66 said:
who did this, that whore.
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hahhahah thats what i thought

We are actually pretty lucky here in the Vibrant section, have you ever looked for a how to or source files in one of the other sections. The amount of sharing that goes on here is far greater than anywhere else on xda.

jellette said:
We are actually pretty lucky here in the Vibrant section, have you ever looked for a how to or source files in one of the other sections. The amount of sharing that goes on here is far greater than anywhere else on xda.
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damm now that you say that, you so right, i was talking to my team partner about what phone to get next and i was saying that if we get another phone there wont be a jellette, a roman, no one like all those that share things here...i noticed that...you so right

bosina said:
you could,
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I was being sarcastic bosina. I would love to learn this stuff but theres no way I would come out and start asking people how to do it. Id learn 100% of everything from just research and reading myself. Take in part, my JIGs, I figured out how to make them through research and development and never asked anyone how to do it, and I only got ideas from KidDynamite on the fancy lanyards I use because I wanted a nice adjustable lanyard system, but had no clue what to use, and he being ex military suggested I use 550 Paracord and a cord lock... Techie type people like high quality full of fancy specs stuff like military grade 550 cord.
jellette said:
We are actually pretty lucky here in the Vibrant section, have you ever looked for a how to or source files in one of the other sections. The amount of sharing that goes on here is far greater than anywhere else on xda.
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Ive noticed that same thing jellete, only the i9000 forum imo seems to match our prowess in that dept. For the US tho the Vibrant forums is #1 for sure.

SkOrPn said:
I was being sarcastic bosina. I would love to learn this stuff but theres no way I would come out and start asking people how to do it. Id learn 100% of everything from just research and reading myself. Take in part, my JIGs, I figured out how to make them through research and development and never asked anyone how to do it, and I only got ideas from KidDynamite on the fancy lanyards I use because I wanted a nice adjustable lanyard system, but had no clue what to use, and he being ex military suggested I use 550 Paracord and a cord lock... Techie type people like high quality full of fancy specs stuff like military grade 550 cord.
Ive noticed that same thing jellete, only the i9000 forum imo seems to match our prowess in that dept. For the US tho the Vibrant forums is #1 for sure.
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thats cool

ahhhhhhhhhhh snap got kicked to the curb. Butt kissing did no good