Is anyone considering trading their X10 for the new Iphone? - XPERIA X10 General

What do you dislike about X10, SE, and/or the 1.6. And, what advantages if any do you believe the new Iphone 4G have over the X10?

fm1776 said:
What do you dislike about X10, SE, and/or the 1.6. And, what advantages if any do you believe the new Iphone 4G have over the X10?
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No i wont trade my XPERIA X10 into a product that costs about 80% more than my XPERIA X10 while having half of the features the XPERIA X10 have. And when you look here, you also know why i wont buy that phone ever.
Everything in that list is something my XPERIA X10 can do out of the box.

Hell no... Never.. and certainly not when I'd have to pay £60 a month for a 2 year contract to get the handset for free...
Even if it wasn't so ridiculously expensive.. I'd still rather have my X10 (and no.. I'm neither an Apple hate or an SE fanboy! - I have an Ipod, and have never owned an x10 before)..

Sure... if I was an idiot with more money than brains, who is willing to support a company with no morals that has one hell of a marketing department which has been able to fool the masses into believing that the iPhone is something better and something they need to be "cool".
F%& Apple and all the hipsters!
If you haven't figured that out, my answer is HECK NO!

No, I don't want an iPhone.
fm1776 is probably wondering why nobody has posted in this thread yet.

rynoon said:
No, I don't want an iPhone.
fm1776 is probably wondering why nobody has posted in this thread yet.
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LOL, yeah maybe he should take us of his block list .

mtechfan said:
Sure... if I was an idiot with more money than brains, who is willing to support a company with no morals that has one hell of a marketing department which has been able to fool the masses into believing that the iPhone is something better and something they needto be "cool".
F%& Apple and all the hipsters!
If you haven't figured that out, my answer is HECK NO!
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LOL!!! ok that is two no's!

I'm very satisfied with the X10.
No Iphone for me.

@Rynoon - Leave it alone - We're meant to be having a discussion not bickering like children.

fm1776 said:
LOL!!! ok that is two no's!
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ROFL, someone that is not on his block list, tell him that he have way more than just 2 no's in this topic lol.
And tell him to take us from his block list to see how many no's he really have.

Tom-Helge said:
No i wont trade my XPERIA X10 into a product that costs about 80% more than my XPERIA X10 while having half of the features the XPERIA X10 have. And when you look here, you also know why i wont buy that phone ever.
Everything in that list is something my XPERIA X10 can do out of the box.
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Wow - I didn't realise there was so much lacking in the iPhone... mind you there's some things there that also apply to the x10 (especially with its current 1.6 OS)
There are some great specs on the iPhone4, well, mainly just the pixel depth of that screen, but apart from that, not much...
Also, I'd much rather have the flexibility of the Android OS over the highly locked down iPhone OS
Sometimes it's more important that a few 'specs'

k1sr said:
Wow - I didn't realise there was so much lacking in the iPhone... mind you there's some things there that also apply to the x10 (especially with its current 1.6 OS)
There are some great specs on the iPhone4, well, mainly just the pixel depth of that screen, but apart from that, not much...
Also, I'd much rather have the flexibility of the Android OS over the highly locked down iPhone OS
Sometimes it's more important that a few 'specs'
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Yup, i totally agree with you.

I got an iPod touch, so I know what iOS mean.
And iOS 4 on iPhone 4 as just "multitask" (I get real multitask on my ipt2G with jailbreak)
iPod touch = nice mp4 with some cool feature
iPhone (3GS/4) = bad phone who want to look nice
Now that I discovered android, no way to jail me into iOS again !
iOS is not fully useless, I give my ipod touch to my girlfriend because of her "computer accident" =) Yes it's more easy to use thant android, but for people who don't come on xda forum^^

thanks for the warning about apple products. I have never owned an apple anything. But my mate stopped by with his new iphone 4g and it looked like a nice kit.
I wish the X10 would be getting the 2.2 instead of the 2.1. I really want the adobe 10.1.
I gave the HTML5 a go and the video's worked just fine on iphone.

I actually came from an iphone iOS4 (i've owned orginal, 3gs, and 4) and am loving my x10, but the main reason for my switch is flash which we may or may not get from SE... keep fingers for custom roms
Also I'm left handed and Apple hates my kind

majik8ball said:
I actually came from an iphone iOS4 (i've owned orginal, 3gs, and 4) and am loving my x10, but the main reason for my switch is flash which we may or may not get from SE... keep fingers for custom roms
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You came from the 4G? What site do you normally stream video's from the doesn't work with HTML5?
As for the 10.1 some one will need to cook 2.2 or it won't work. It will probably happen sooner or later. But if that is the main reason you switched why not go with the EVO? 10.1 should work out of the box.

Seriously, guys...
This kid has been slapping Rachael left, right and center for days. Now he's setting up a separate topic to further evangelize IamalamePHONE, and nobody actually cares to 'advise' him to leave the X10 section?
I would, if not because the coward can't read my comments.

fm1776 said:
thanks for the warning about apple products. I have never owned an apple anything. But my mate stopped by with his new iphone 4g and it looked like a nice kit.
I wish the X10 would be getting the 2.2 instead of the 2.1. I really want the adobe 10.1.
I gave the HTML5 a go and the video's worked just fine on iphone.
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He claims he never owned an iPhone. Riiiight....

loneLEE said:
Seriously, guys...
This kid has been slapping Rachael left, right and center for days. Now he's setting up a separate topic to further evangelize IamalamePHONE, and nobody actually cares to 'advise' him to leave the X10 section?
I would, if not because the coward can't read my comments.
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Well, the difficulty is that he has also ignored more than half of the people in this thread as well. I looked back through his posts and it's nothing but slagging off the X10. Trollish for sure.

I like to watch tv from justin.tv and html5 does not support... plus at least for me on my iphone4 the ones that do work were not that great interms of framerate, but i'm sure with time it'll be ironed out.
Trust me i wish i could have switched to EVO, but I'm stuck on AT&T and if you know anything about them it is the MAIN REASON NOT TO GET AN IPHONE... AT&T lol

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Bye bye HD2, hello iPhone!

Had enough of the HD2 now, and after playing with iPhones recently I have reaslised I made the wrong choice. The UI is just so much more intuitive, ok I have to wait till July for OS 4.0 for multi-tasking but who cares
bye!
and whats the reason for this information?
Good luck lapping at Steve's heels. You are correct in that the iphone OS is more immediately user friendly but the HD2 & winmo offer much more that iphone OS can. Good luck with that, oh and it still wont be true multi-tasking
Intuitive /ɪntj'uːətɪv/ /-t'uː-/ US
If you have an intuitive idea or feeling about something, you feel that it is true although you have no evidence or proof of it.
-google dictionary
chrisrj28 said:
Good luck lapping at Steve's heels. You are correct in that the iphone OS is more immediately user friendly but the HD2 & winmo offer much more that iphone OS can. Good luck with that, oh and it still wont be true multi-tasking
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This.
I made the exact OPPOSITE move.
I've owned the 3GS ever since it came out and for the past few months before I sold it it bored me to death. There's very little I can do with it, and once I realized I don't really play mobile games, the decision to sell it became very easy. I like my HD2 a lot more -- more customizable, and more powerful. Plus the small screen of the iPhone (resolution-wise) was grating.
great news for somebody who wants a second hand leo, not everybody affords a new one
godspeed and be happy man
I think we should start a thread 'Show your iPhone today screens here' and see how many posts there will be
rickyoon.vegas said:
Intuitive /ɪntj'uːətɪv/ /-t'uː-/ US
If you have an intuitive idea or feeling about something, you feel that it is true although you have no evidence or proof of it.
-google dictionary
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I'm not saying I have proof. Thats exactly it, it just feels better for some reason. The texting, the scrolling, the fact that there is no ghastly looking WinMo hiding underneath.
Ah man... just joining the rest of the sheep. There are too many identical Iphone users about! BE INDIVIDUAL!
People who don't want to invest time in a more versatile phone should buy an iPhone, but they will get less for more. And don't expect the iPhone to be perfect, because it's not, it's that's what Apple's marketing machine will try to tell you, but don't count on it to work flawless.
monty_rm said:
Had enough of the HD2 now, and after playing with iPhones recently I have reaslised I made the wrong choice. The UI is just so much more intuitive, ok I have to wait till July for OS 4.0 for multi-tasking but who cares
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Hi,my condolences for your choice lol !
monty_rm said:
Had enough of the HD2 now, and after playing with iPhones recently I have reaslised I made the wrong choice. The UI is just so much more intuitive, ok I have to wait till July for OS 4.0 for multi-tasking but who cares
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Yeah well I had the iPhones before and I would never change my HD2 for them!
Youre making a 2008 expired move but good luck on that!
And get ur credit card ready to pass through the App Store because apart from that, there's nothing attractive about the apple anymore....
If you would like to donate to starving tech hungry kids, please send unwanted HD2's . . . to me, I'll be sure they get them >.>
wow you have bought a phone without features that my Sony Ericsson p800 could do before the Iphone was even thought of LMAO
BYE BYE
Demon_man said:
wow you have bought a phone without features that my Sony Ericsson p800 could do before the Iphone was even thought of LMAO
BYE BYE
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4000 colour screen, symbian OS and 16Mb memory? Not sure what iPhone you have been looking at...
aww... we have a apple fanboy who is just desperate for attention..... the only iPhone that stands a competitive chance of usability... is the iPhone 4g... and even then... a lot of those features haven't been confirmed... but hey.. to each his own eh? have fun with a locked down device... leave the hd2 to the people who can handle it...
I feel for you, and I am comming to the rescue
Man this is by far the most exciting message I've ever read on this board. You so right, get rid of that sh*ty no good for anything.
Actually, I feel so strongly about your misery that I feel compelled to help you out. I will make you this irresistible offer of US$100 to get it off your hands, fast!!
Hey, don't thank me, just want to put in my 2 cents and help out a member in distress.
Kind regards,
SeaHorse
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4000 colour screen, symbian OS and 16Mb memory? Not sure what iPhone you have been looking at...
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the ones that could send mms out the box, cut n paste out the box, oh and possibly one of the best phone OS's there was UIQ, yes yes iphone has updates now woopty do, the point im making is your going back to 2008 technology you might aswell go back to 2003 technology.
Don't let the door hit your butt on the way out...
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aww... we have a apple fanboy who is just desperate for attention..... the only iPhone that stands a competitive chance of usability... is the iPhone 4g... and even then... a lot of those features haven't been confirmed... but hey.. to each his own eh? have fun with a locked down device... leave the hd2 to the people who can handle it...
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Hardly an Apple fan boy having never owned a Mac or an iPhone before. Is there any need for a comment like that?
Saved alot of cash after being away for some time so thought i'd spend it on something i feel works better. Handle it? It's a phone for christs sake, wake up

Q. about And. 2.2 install on the X10

Hey everyone
I have tried to search the forum about how to install the 2.2 on the X10. Or even the 2.1
So my question is, if there's someone who know the easy way or if it is at all possible?
I am also wondering if the Fryo update for the Nexus one can be used, and then what with the SE functions, will the camera still work and at what resolution.
Kindly
Simon
Denmark
its not fully rooted.. bootloader still to go.. then 2.1 or 2.2 will depend on the chefz who cook the custom rom.. correct me if im wrong!
not sure about the camera resolution and stuff but I'm sure having android 2.x wil give us hd recording and 16M screen..
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Thanks
Well thats just to bad right now
But i hope the people soon get it working. If i can install Android 2.2 on my x10 before Iphone 4 comes to Denmark. I will donate the money i've put aside to buy the iphone 4, and postpone the buy to the second shipment to Denmark...
Well i just gotta have the iPhone. I'm a Apple fan yes
Looking forward to installing Fryo, when its possible.
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Simon
You'll be an Apple fan until you realise you can't hold it the way you're used to or the screen goes yellow. Look up Iphone 4 issues online before you buy it
POS in my opinion, but I'm an Apple hater.
Well, i suggest for you to take of your Apple goggless off, and open your eyes... Im not saying that iPhone is crap, but by the issues the first ones are having, i rather wipe ass by the money then spend it on iphone...
So, i suggest for you to wait few more months that they fix the problems... But like you sayd, your apple fanboy, so you would buy red brick by 1000$, if they call i it iphone
http://www.riemurasia.net/jylppy/media.php?id=72293&c=11
EDIT: And no, Im not Apple hater, or fanboy... Just can't see point spending 500$ on mobilephone, that cant be used for calling...
Mobzter said:
its not fully rooted.. bootloader still to go.. then 2.1 or 2.2 will depend on the chefz who cook the custom rom.. correct me if im wrong!
not sure about the camera resolution and stuff but I'm sure having android 2.x wil give us hd recording and 16M screen..
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It IS fully rooted. 'Rooting' is when you gain linux 'root' permissions, and can do whatever you want with the system. It is even more so than with Windows, because you can't change the windows kernel, but you can with Linux, on which everything is run.
If you want a froyo rom, just wait. A method is probably being worked on jerpelea, Bin4ry, Maryland Cookie etc. In fact they are trying to get a custom kernel running which will allow us to do this. Just look at some of the threads on the X10 Android Development section.
I'm not as knowledgeable as the devs here, but I try to do some research so I can at least partly understand what is going on, and learn some things along the way.
Sorry about the rant...
Hi fellow X10 users ! first time question here on the forum. Is there anyone who has installed 2.2 on the x10?!
Are you kidding ? Can you read ? It is impossible to have Froyo on X10.
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It is unbelievable...people can write but can't read
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No offense, but do people not do even a little research about their phone before they buy it?
That is why he is sn apple fan. Wikipedia classify apple fan as
1. Idiots that doesn't reseach
2. People who want to get ibto the crowd by hlding up his iphone
3. Rich people who throw money down the sink
4. Brainless zombie
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ozd said:
No offense, but do people not do even a little research about their phone before they buy it?
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Annoyingly, most people don't...
That's why so many people still bought the iPhone 4, with it's signal problems. The problem is not terrible, but it shouldn't have happened - function should always be prioritised over form.
wrongfeifong said:
That is why he is sn apple fan. Wikipedia classify apple fan as
1. Idiots that doesn't reseach
2. People who want to get ibto the crowd by hlding up his iphone
3. Rich people who throw money down the sink
4. Brainless zombie
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You know what's twenty times worse than an Apple fan?
An Anti-Apple fan.
Seriously, who gives a crap what others like. Doesn't make them "brainless zombies" or "idiots that don't research." People tend to buy things that they want. Don't try to justify yourself by putting others down, it makes you look far worse.
iead1 said:
You know what's twenty times worse than an Apple fan?
An Anti-Apple fan.
Seriously, who gives a crap what others like. Doesn't make them "brainless zombies" or "idiots that don't research." People tend to buy things that they want. Don't try to justify yourself by putting others down, it makes you look far worse.
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no it doesnt. hes right
we are going waaaaaay off topic....again.
it is strange how we end up always talking about that ****ty Iphone
We are talking about the Iphone more than the X10, on a X10 forum.
Hhmm strange...
What annoys me the most is not whether you are an Iphone fan or not, but not researching and asking questions that are obviously, not answerable.
Does anyone really think that there is some secret society keeping everyone else from knowing if an upgrade is available? In this age of instant news, I bet the moment the X10's program loader is hacked, the news will instantly spread and custom roms will soon show up.
...and before people ask whether other phone's Roms can be used once the program loader is hacked, the answer is no. It takes a lot of experimentation just because of differences in the hardware.
I guess I am tired of reading this question over and over again.
I'm glad the x10 doesnt have a dedicated keyboard made the x1 far to chunky and i never used it. Anyone remember the full qwerty keyboard that you could plug into the bottom of the T18 & T28 it was quality
tris1979 said:
I'm glad the x10 doesnt have a dedicated keyboard made the x1 far to chunky and i never used it. Anyone remember the full qwerty keyboard that you could plug into the bottom of the T18 & T28 it was quality
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Well the X10 Mini Pro (with a hardware keyboard) is only like 1mm thicker than the regular Mini...

it's coming!!!!

http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/11/cdma-iphone-in-engineering-tests-may-arrive-in-january-says-jo/
so how many closet apple fan boys will be jumping on this deal? if i could run android on it, i might consider but verizons prices are crap. i hope sprint has a good line up later this fall and next year because this if anything will hurt where it counts.
Galaxy S for Sprint will be out by then.
iPhones are overrated.
Zardos66 said:
Galaxy S for Sprint will be out by then.
iPhones are overrated.
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their going to need something more than a crappy samsung phone to even compete with that. sorry i had to say it!
I don't think Sprint is going to work with Apple, beacause of the "Total Equipment Protecction", Apple Iphone doesn't have that...
markus_del_marko said:
their going to need something more than a crappy samsung phone to even compete with that. sorry i had to say it!
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Yeah... Samsung's software is horrible. Horrible horrible horrible.
The HTC Desire is the closest competitor to the iPhone...
derekwilkinson said:
Yeah... Samsung's software is horrible. Horrible horrible horrible.
The HTC Desire is the closest competitor to the iPhone...
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their gonna need something because by january the evo won't count as it will be as outdated as the hero. im not counting any wp7 garbage either because i talked to sprint and they aren't even sure if they will carry those phones. winmo is not a hot seller for them, android is.
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I don't think Sprint is going to work with Apple, beacause of the "Total Equipment Protecction", Apple Iphone doesn't have that...
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i wish these companies would allow the buyer to choose what service they want their phones on. i hope one day that will happen. example: id love to get the droid2 on sprint.
markus_del_marko said:
their going to need something more than a crappy samsung phone to even compete with that. sorry i had to say it!
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derekwilkinson said:
Yeah... Samsung's software is horrible. Horrible horrible horrible.
The HTC Desire is the closest competitor to the iPhone...
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Have you tried it out in a store? It's definitely different from Samsung's past attempts, in a good way. The Cortex processor is ridiculously fast, resulting in the smoothest Android experience I've seen to date.
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Yeah... Samsung's software is horrible. Horrible horrible horrible.
The HTC Desire is the closest competitor to the iPhone...
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The software is horrible, but the hardware is pretty good. The iPhone is popular because it's easy to learn and has more apps than any other OS. Oh, and guess what's in the iPhone. A Samsung processor.
No matter what Apple comes out with I will never get another one of their products. The thing that really sets Android from iOS and the iPhone is there is only 1 phone with iOS and there have been over 40 released android phones with atleast 12 more confirmed to be released and over 10 rumored phones.
I still believe that Android will out sale iPhone no matter where it goes.
Apple provides no freedom to its subscribers other than the reveled "App Store" that's about as varietal as it gets for them. No alternate phones to use, no alternate homescreen, GUI (unless jailbroken i suppose) just the same tried nd true iphone with a faeclift and some hardware changes from time to time some for the better, some for the worse lol. I love their PC's nd laptops but i will NEVER own an iphone.
If anyone here really has that big of a boner for the Iphone4 I'd be really suprised. It's not a bad phone but I just hate apple, and it doesn't do anything that the EVO or any other phone coming out can't do. I'd take an EVO over that any day. I'm android from here on out.
This video sums up this entire thread lol!!!
http://www.break.com/index/iphone-4-vs-htc-evo.html
Its still the same iPhone4 just a new radio. As the Android Phones continue to evolve it will still be what is out right now.
I work with a bunch of people who all have Iphone's and talk amongst each other and it kills me, I think it's safe to say I'm an android snob. One could say that I think I'm better for owning an android phone and having it rooted. I might argue at first, but honestly I can't help it. Apple to me is like owning a prius, and Android is like owning ****ing Optimus Prime.
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I work with a bunch of people who all have Iphone's and talk amongst each other and it kills me, I think it's safe to say I'm an android snob. One could say that I think I'm better for owning an android phone and having it rooted. I might argue at first, but honestly I can't help it. Apple to me is like owning a prius, and Android is like owning ****ing Optimus Prime.
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Haha optimus prime. I actually have him as my lockscreen just cause i feel that exact same way. I wouldn't be surprised if I woke up in the middle of the night to find my phone in the backyard having a meeting with all the other local android phones on how they are gonna get rid of the iphones.
But seriously, I too feel the same way, I'm a college student and everyone rich kid and their parents have an iphone and think that they are so cool. All i can think when i see them, is my phone is better than yours. And i have a hero! a phone that in the rapid pace phone world, is obsolete.
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Apple provides no freedom to its subscribers other than the reveled "App Store" that's about as varietal as it gets for them. No alternate phones to use, no alternate homescreen, GUI (unless jailbroken i suppose) just the same tried nd true iphone with a faeclift and some hardware changes from time to time some for the better, some for the worse lol. I love their PC's nd laptops but i will NEVER own an iphone.
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And yet, i agree with this. While i would never own an iphone willingly, i do have a macbook and i couldn't be happier with it. I can do anything i want on it and it never fails me. No crashes, no freezing, no viruses. Nothing. Its solid.
But at the same time, i don't carry it around with me everywhere so everyone can see my macbook. I don't go sit in coffee shops just to surf the internet. I chose a macbook not cause it's the cool thing to have, but because I believed it was the best choice i could make. So I'm not an apple hater, I just think that if I'm spending a considerable amount of money on a tech device, it better work to its complete and full potential.
nutswillkillme said:
If anyone here really has that big of a boner for the Iphone4 I'd be really suprised. It's not a bad phone but I just hate apple, and it doesn't do anything that the EVO or any other phone coming out can't do. I'd take an EVO over that any day. I'm android from here on out.
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i used to hate android when it first came out, that's when winmo was the hot seller back in 2007-2008. yes it is the most popular os out there "right now" but im sure something will trump android in the near future. what im waiting to see is the next webos device.
If the iPhone was available for Sprint.... I would buy it. The only reason I didn't get one in the first place is because AT&T makes you pay out the ass every month. The iPhone 4 is the best phone on the market right now. The only downside to iPhone is that you can't customize it as well as Android, but... you can put Android on the iPhone! Again, the iPhone is the best phone you can buy right now.
The way it looks now, HTC, Motorola, and maybe even Samsung and LG are going to all be putting out phones that will be directly competing with not only the iPhone, but each other also. That's cool that Apple busts out hardware that puts all these companies in there place for a minute, but on the software sides of things, I'll take Android any day. The nonstop onslaught of Android phones coming out makes me think the Iphone4 won't be on top hardware wise for very long. They seem to be up against almost every phone manufacturer now.
HeroMeng said:
If the iPhone was available for Sprint.... I would buy it. The only reason I didn't get one in the first place is because AT&T makes you pay out the ass every month. The iPhone 4 is the best phone on the market right now. The only downside to iPhone is that you can't customize it as well as Android, but... you can put Android on the iPhone! Again, the iPhone is the best phone you can buy right now.
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i wouldn't buy one but id take one for free. verizon is pretty expensive too when it comes to it's plans.
HeroMeng said:
The iPhone 4 is the best phone on the market right now.
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Didn't think I've EVER see anyone say this on xda forums. But to each his own.
Still, !!

froyo ported onto iphone -.-

theres an app in cydia that installs froyo on iphones now... who would have guessed iphone owners would get froyo before us?! http://www.iphonehacks.com/2010/11/how-to-install-android-on-your-iphone-using-bootlace.html
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it has many issues currently, I've seen many try, I even saw Ipads running on Froyo, but yet again with many issues.....
but it's a good option for iPhone users to run Android
yeaa when i read the headline i just made this face -___- lol
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Let's be rational. There's probably 10 to 20 times as many iPhone owners as there are X10 owners, which comes with it a proportional increase in people developing for it.
You'd have a better point if it said "Apple released Android 2.2 before Sony Ericsson did for the X10."
Did anyone watch the Engadget Show from October?
They made fun of the X10 again ".....for example Sony's phone, that came with, what.... 1.6?"
pngface said:
Did anyone watch the Engadget Show from October?
They made fun of the X10 again ".....for example Sony's phone, that came with, what.... 1.6?"
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nope, haven't seen anything like that...mmmhhh, but really, i love my X10 now that it's running 2.1, and i loved my X10 when it was running 1.6....it has this unique design which makes it actually look it a little more mature and sophisticated compared to the iPhone (no offence here, I had used an iPhone before I gave it to my girlfriend and bought an X10).....
besides, I think the fact that people are being eager to get froyo fully running on an iPhone somehow shows that they may not be completely satisfied with Apple's OS ;-)
just my 2 cents
279Paddy said:
nope, haven't seen anything like that...mmmhhh, but really, i love my X10 now that it's running 2.1, and i loved my X10 when it was running 1.6....it has this unique design which makes it actually look it a little more mature and sophisticated compared to the iPhone (no offence here, I had used an iPhone before I gave it to my girlfriend and bought an X10).....
besides, I think the fact that people are being eager to get froyo fully running on an iPhone somehow shows that they may not be completely satisfied with Apple's OS ;-)
just my 2 cents
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trust me i had an iphone and the ios is just awful, jailbreaking isnt any better. Most jailbreak apps are real battery killers, and its hard to feel proud of your iphone when apple releases a newer better one every year, the iphone 4 is already lame and iphone forums are already discussing iphone 5 news and specs, thats just nuts
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trust me i had an iphone and the ios is just awful, jailbreaking isnt any better. Most jailbreak apps are real battery killers, and its hard to feel proud of your iphone when apple releases a newer better one every year, the iphone 4 is already lame and iphone forums are already discussing iphone 5 news and specs, thats just nuts
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Did you miss this thread?
If you're serious about being angry that a company updates it's product line once a year, I'm kinda worried what's going to happen when you start looking at a new computer, camera, or television.
You've been able to install android off cydia for some time now. I know I did it on my iphone a few months back now. It is unusable though. There just aren't enough buttons on the iphone for it to work properly.
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Did you miss this thread?
If you're serious about being angry that a company updates it's product line once a year, I'm kinda worried what's going to happen when you start looking at a new computer, camera, or television.
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thats different, if se releases a new phone i wont care, i bought my phone online from at&t for 160 bucks and had it delivered to me, but when people freak out about the new iphone, wait in line for days, pay up to 400 bucks (credit cards only now, no more cash or debit will be excepted for newly released iphones), and then find out within a few months a newer better one is already being viewed by the fcc... well it gets a little frustrating
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Yeah, well, that's the Cult of Apple for ya. Pay them no mind, and at the same time, thank them. Without the iPhone, we wouldn't be playing with our X10s right now. They pushed smartphones into the limelight and pushed companies like HTC, Samsung, and Sony Ericsson to innovate!
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Yeah, well, that's the Cult of Apple for ya. Pay them no mind, and at the same time, thank them. Without the iPhone, we wouldn't be playing with our X10s right now. They pushed smartphones into the limelight and pushed companies like HTC, Samsung, and Sony Ericsson to innovate!
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yea the iphone itself is a great product, but its the limbo of purchases that kill me. look up new iphone, pre order, wait in line, drop half a grand on launch day, repeat, repeat, repeat
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fightingroost12 said:
trust me i had an iphone and the ios is just awful, jailbreaking isnt any better. Most jailbreak apps are real battery killers, and its hard to feel proud of your iphone when apple releases a newer better one every year, the iphone 4 is already lame and iphone forums are already discussing iphone 5 news and specs, thats just nuts
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You may have overlooked this, but as I said, I had been using an iPhone (for two years) before I got an X10...hence, I totally agree with you...all that jailbreaking here, jailbreaking there, and thus only being able to fully "unleash the phone's power" (yeah, a little bit of sarcasm in there) if you jailbreak it, is just pure crap....always being scared of the next update which will probably make it more difficult or even impossible to jailbreak the handset is so freaking annoying - thus, android ROCKS! (no offence to people who use an iPhone btw, just to clarify) ;D
My wife's iPad is realy lucky because I would break it from the first days if it was mine. I love the machine I hate the OS.
If there is an option to install Android on it I would definetely give it a try.
Iphone froyo
I will never buy an iPhone no matter what os it is running.
My bros iPhone is horrible. 3G cuts out, its not smooth and GPS doesn't work properly 4 times out of 10.
Although FroYo will set those poor iPhone owners free!
these jokes are against SE and i aprove, they know that they'll suffer because of this .
Not all publicity is good publicity
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My wife's iPad is realy lucky because I would break it from the first days if it was mine. I love the machine I hate the OS.
If there is an option to install Android on it I would definetely give it a try.
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Haha, well said, well said indeed ;D
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theres an app in cydia that installs froyo on iphones now... who would have guessed iphone owners would get froyo before us?! http://www.iphonehacks.com/2010/11/how-to-install-android-on-your-iphone-using-bootlace.html
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Who would of thought Apple fanboys would want to install Android on their mobiles.... Or is this just another attempt to prove a point?

Renewal of Contract Xperia Arc, Xperia Play or something else??

Hi All,
I am from Singapore, my contract is going to end in April..
I am just curious which phone I should go for??
I am more diverted towards Xperia Play
Its not that I hate my X10i or anything else so please no war zone here
Just genuine suggestions with some valid point, thanks in advance!!
samsung galaxy 2 i would say
after all sony will lock the bootloader again
with the galaxy, u can directly install cyanogen roms =D
if you like, nothing can stop you
Arc or Pro
Your choice
personally i would like to get the optimus 2x if good roms are released for it, if not galaxy s II. If your happy to go with SE again then go for it, personally i dont want to wait a year 2.4. Im still unconvinced that they've learnt from the x10...
i believe they have becuase they stated that it takes long with x10 due to mediascape and timescape being so deeply integrated into the system. But with new phones they are just apps and thats it.
Depends on your budget too? I'm guessing the mid-range plans will fetch SGD$600 or so ba...
And if you're lucky enough, complains of X10 have reached M1/Singtel/Starhub's ears and they will try decrease the price in order to get more people to get?
I know... In my dreams =/
I feel like changing to Arc, which, is against my principles of holding on to a phone until it dies off... Ah well, see how it goes ba...
Why not get something that's really a step up from the x10? Dual core, with really good specs like the atrix or something.. Why get basically another x10? Also why trust se have learned anything at all...
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Why not get something that's really a step up from the x10? Dual core, with really good specs like the atrix or something.. Why get basically another x10? Also why trust se have learned anything at all...
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Arc and whatever new Xperias are a step up -_-
And none of the Sony Ericsson phones have dual core, for your info.
It's not another X10. It's an Arc. X10 mini and X10mini pro are another X10. X10 doesn't have multitouch, 4.2" screen, sexy body and 2.3 OS. Alot of you guys have been complaining about the X10 not having multitouch, right? So now you got your wish. And you still complain -_-
Nobody ever said they trust Sony Ericsson has learnt anything. No matter what, they will still be a money-minded company and come out with a phone sexier than Arc and a 2.4 OS in it to make us drool over it and buy next year. The cycle never ends. As long as they can come up with a new design that attract customers, they are the winners.
If anybody buys an Arc and complains about no further OS updates or this time can't even hack the phone at all, it's them who never learn. This is how Sony Ericsson works, so either suck it up, or change brands and stay out of here in order not to piss anyone off.
Possibly no OS upgrades, or maybe just 1, hacker-unfriendly phone, applications which you cannot uninstall. these elements are here to stay. So don't complain about these in future cos you have been there, done that.
Please get your facts right before trying to stir up trouble. The guy wants opinions, not give haters like you a chance to further diss the products.
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Arc and whatever new Xperias are a step up -_-
And none of the Sony Ericsson phones have dual core, for your info.
It's not another X10. It's an Arc. X10 mini and X10mini pro are another X10. X10 doesn't have multitouch, 4.2" screen, sexy body and 2.3 OS. Alot of you guys have been complaining about the X10 not having multitouch, right? So now you got your wish. And you still complain -_-
Nobody ever said they trust Sony Ericsson has learnt anything. No matter what, they will still be a money-minded company and come out with a phone sexier than Arc and a 2.4 OS in it to make us drool over it and buy next year. The cycle never ends. As long as they can come up with a new design that attract customers, they are the winners.
If anybody buys an Arc and complains about no further OS updates or this time can't even hack the phone at all, it's them who never learn. This is how Sony Ericsson works, so either suck it up, or change brands and stay out of here in order not to piss anyone off.
Possibly no OS upgrades, or maybe just 1, hacker-unfriendly phone, applications which you cannot uninstall. these elements are here to stay. So don't complain about these in future cos you have been there, done that.
Please get your facts right before trying to stir up trouble. The guy wants opinions, not give haters like you a chance to further diss the products.
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OP said no warzone, you just fed this warzone...
They're just saying, not always Sony Ericsson, XDA forums is for ALL brands and manufacturers, people can state what they want...
Also.. the word "step-up" is subjective to everyone, to some it'll just mean the newer version with just some extra specs (so keeping in line with Sony Ericsson stuff), to some it'll be just something much technically better (could be any company with just a better hardware padded phone)...
So no more arguments now,
The OP is looking for a new phone, let's help him make a well-informed choice.
Arc is looking great. Some other Android Phones looking ugly and have the ugly stock Android Style but the SE Phones always have great Styles and Android with good Style is the best. Thats what i like about SE but i dont know if my next Phone is a SE Phone i need to look if they learned their lessons and how the Arc will do.
Arc is the best looking forthcoming handset... however, think I'd go for the NEO.. Front facing camera, and slightly smaller.. the rest of the spec seem pretty much the same (off the top of my head!)
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Arc and whatever new Xperias are a step up -_-
And none of the Sony Ericsson phones have dual core, for your info.
It's not another X10. It's an Arc. X10 mini and X10mini pro are another X10. X10 doesn't have multitouch, 4.2" screen, sexy body and 2.3 OS. Alot of you guys have been complaining about the X10 not having multitouch, right? So now you got your wish. And you still complain -_-
Nobody ever said they trust Sony Ericsson has learnt anything. No matter what, they will still be a money-minded company and come out with a phone sexier than Arc and a 2.4 OS in it to make us drool over it and buy next year. The cycle never ends. As long as they can come up with a new design that attract customers, they are the winners.
If anybody buys an Arc and complains about no further OS updates or this time can't even hack the phone at all, it's them who never learn. This is how Sony Ericsson works, so either suck it up, or change brands and stay out of here in order not to piss anyone off.
Possibly no OS upgrades, or maybe just 1, hacker-unfriendly phone, applications which you cannot uninstall. these elements are here to stay. So don't complain about these in future cos you have been there, done that.
Please get your facts right before trying to stir up trouble. The guy wants opinions, not give haters like you a chance to further diss the products.
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I'm not talking about a little baby step, I'm talking about a bigger jump. If you're going to be stuck with a phone for possibly three years, why not get one that will at least have some staying power as far as specs go?
Jesus you are one uptight douche...
When did I say anything about SE having dual core? Apparently you have trouble reading. The OP said an SE phone OR SOMETHING ELSE. I suggested the atrix.
I love my x10 but I just feel like these new models aren't enough of a leap in specs to really consider it an "upgrade".
I have just as much of a right to state my opinion as I do, what is funny is that you just happen to consider your own opinion (and that is all it is...) fact, while anyone else's are apparently wrong..
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OP said no warzone, you just fed this warzone...
They're just saying, not always Sony Ericsson, XDA forums is for ALL brands and manufacturers, people can state what they want...
Also.. the word "step-up" is subjective to everyone, to some it'll just mean the newer version with just some extra specs (so keeping in line with Sony Ericsson stuff), to some it'll be just something much technically better (could be any company with just a better hardware padded phone)...
So no more arguments now,
The OP is looking for a new phone, let's help him make a well-informed choice.
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Uh huh. See the way he responds, and you accuse me of starting the war. Zzzz.
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I'm not talking about a little baby step, I'm talking about a bigger jump. If you're going to be stuck with a phone for possibly three years, why not get one that will at least have some staying power as far as specs go?
Jesus you are one uptight douche...
When did I say anything about SE having dual core? Apparently you have trouble reading. The OP said an SE phone OR SOMETHING ELSE. I suggested the atrix.
I love my x10 but I just feel like these new models aren't enough of a leap in specs to really consider it an "upgrade". Maybe not for tech geeks like you, but definitely for people who just want a good-looking gadget to own.
I have just as much of a right to state my opinion as I do, what is funny is that you just happen to consider your own opinion (and that is all it is...) fact, while anyone else's are apparently wrong..
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Because it looks nicer and has better specs? DUH. And with their tactics, it's getting hard to stay faithful with the phone for too long. I myself am a self-professed faithful owner who claimed to stay with the same phone until it dies off or gets stolen or lost, but seeing the Arc, I myself am thinking of getting it, contradicting my own beliefs and principles. Even the topic starter is contemplating, as well as other existing Rachael owners.
Admit it nor not, Sony Ericsson is good at making eyecandy stuff which makes people wanna own it.
I'm not Jesus, but thanks for thinking highly of me. By the way, calling me a douche shows you are no better than me =D
Yeah. SOMETHING ELSE. NOT SOME OTHER BRANDS. He already hinted by giving the former 2 models as the same brands an example. Sony Ericsson doesn't even have Atrix. Apparently YOU'RE the one who have trouble reading. Anyway why get so hyped up with dual core when it might be a worse juice sucker, making you complain about further short battery life? I'd rather wait till things are getting stable over time rather than advancements that are unpredictable.
You don't feel so but he feels so.
If you want to state opinions, STATE POSITIVE OPINIONS INSTEAD OF TRYING TO PISS OTHERS OFF, KIDDO. By doubting Sony Ericsson's integrity, you, too, are thinking you are right while they are wrong. So that doesn't make you any better than me.
Whatever stuff you say about me basically reflects it on you as well.
Wolfbreak said:
Arc is looking great. Some other Android Phones looking ugly and have the ugly stock Android Style but the SE Phones always have great Styles and Android with good Style is the best. Thats what i like about SE but i dont know if my next Phone is a SE Phone i need to look if they learned their lessons and how the Arc will do.
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If you don't harbor any expectations like getting it hacked or expecting further OS updates, it should be fine. =D
But one thing deterring me is the lack of Mediascape. I'm more of a multimedia kinda person, so I prefer good music players... And see whether will the Arc have Japanese keyboard (and hopefully, a Cantonese keyboard too).
I totally agree with you about the other droids not looking pretty... Actually Google Nexus One was alright, with live wallpaper and all, comparing with the then-Rachael without live wallpapers. But after reading reviews by owners that the music player was sucky, I decided to wait for Rachael instead, trusting Sony's music players through experience. And best of all, Racharl has Japanese language and input installed in it! That was totally great news.
Guess it all boils down to priorities. The factors in the phone which makes you wanna own. I knew Rachael had no live wallpapers, and no multitouch, yet I still bought it. With no regrets. Haha.
And don't go to the updates part. I did not own any phones which are software upgradable in the past, so I didn't count on it, expecting the company too lazy to invest their time updating something that they've gotten rid of and start planning on making better phones.
Something else means not other brands, yet I'm the one with trouble reading lol... Is like to see where he said that..you seem to be making his statement your own. You have some real issues dude.
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Something else means not other brands, yet I'm the one with trouble reading lol... Is like to see where he said that..you seem to be making his statement your own. You have some real issues dude.
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I've already explaint how he used examples to support his phrase. If you can't understand even my explanations, you can forget about accusing me for having trouble reading.
Again, this is a good example of what you say about others being reflected on you too.
Yeah. And my issue is YOU.
Haha he said or something else, not or something else sony necessarily...
Take your prozac man...
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Haha he said or something else, not or something else sony necessarily...
Take your prozac man...
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yeah. Something else like Neo or Pro or whatever they have. DUH.
If he is thinking or alternatives, he would have asked Arc, HTC or some other brands?

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