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Custom ROM Questions

I have had my HD2 for a month now. Been running the stock 1.48 ROM with all the tweaks and fixes from XDA. Everything works great. The newer 1.66 ROM has just been released in my country (I'm in South Africa, things are a bit behind here), and i was thinking of either flashing the stock or a custom ROM.
I've read on these forums from a fair number of people who claim that cooked ROMS are inherently unstable and suffer from random freezes.
Is there any truth to this. I was running Sakajati's Hyperdragon ROMS on my old Kasier, and they were 100% stable.
Or is the instability a result of multiple ROM flashes without using the MTTY process?
Thanks for your help.

I'd say run the stock 1.66 ROM and see how you get on, it might be fine with a few tweaks. After that, look into custom ROMs if you feel you need one

Hi Eddy.
Thanks for the reply.
I'll give the stock 1.66 a go.

was thinking of changing the original rom
which custom rom should i go for need advice

adamo86 said:
which custom rom should i go for need advice
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it really depends on your needs and deires... the only thing you can do is look through the various ROMs and then choose one that suits you or that you like... if its not what you want then change it...

I have been looking at a lot of ROMS, have not tried any yet.
I think i will probably go with Laurentius Ultimate power. I like the fact that his ROM includes a Radio, and he also does a lot of beta testing before releasing a ROM.
I've just flashed stock 1.66, will try that for a while. Then go the cooked route.

Duttys HG series are very good, using it at the moment (WinMo 6.5-style as I hate the new new buttons) - link is in my sig for those interested

from my personal experience i can tell you the best custom roms are faster, more stable and also have extra features that make them more fun compared to stock. but for this to happen you need to be careful with your flashing method.there is an excellent thread in the 1st page of the ROM development forum which i recommend you study thoroughly before attempting your first custom flash. also, remember to always flash a stock ROM in between 2 customs (or use mtty) and always hard reset the phone after the 1st boot. roms are also radio sensitive so you might also have to flash different radios to obtain the best combination. perhaps it sounds a little complicated but it's not really and definetely worth to try.
cheers mate and have fun!

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If u r looking for stable rom, try 6.5 rom, not 6.5.x.
6.5.x roms is more finger friendly but contain more bugs than 6.5
Try Miri's rom or Xanny's rom. I used both and satisfied with both

Hi Antaed.
Thanks for reply. I've read all the HSPL and flashing posts. Not too worried about the process.
I agree with what you say, on my tytnII, custom ROM was much faster.
Good to hear you're not have stability problems with the custom ROMS for HD2

Savage-wp said:
Hi Antaed.
Thanks for reply. I've read all the HSPL and flashing posts. Not too worried about the process.
I agree with what you say, on my tytnII, custom ROM was much faster.
Good to hear you're not have stability problems with the custom ROMS for HD2
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glad to help mate. i'm not a flash addict (just yet ) so i tried only roms from the notorious chefs - dutty, laurentius, xannytech, energy, etc. i wasn't disappointed by any of them, all are very good but each is different in its own way. my favorite is artemis (from sternas) because i find it closest to my needs - leo only packages, close to stock, essential addons and of course great, great performance. i recommend you try a few yourself so you can decide which is best for you.

What ROM are you using and why?

This is not a "what is the best ROM" thread
But what ROM are you using and why?
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Im using Dutty HG V1.1, 5.2.23544 ROM.
I started with Dutty's ROM when i had the TD2 (Topaz) and has continued with his ROM's when i got the Leo, mainly because i find it stable a clean.

Well stock 1.66 ROM.
Why: well i like the clean Sense look HTC made I have done lots of tweaks and some mods to it. But its 95% stock. Plus i run our HD2 support at work, so it helps me remembering where stuff is in the stock ROM. Untill i get my 2nd HD2 for work related stuff. Then i might install a custom ROM.

Others who will share their reasons for choosing the ROM they are using?

Stock 1.43 O2 UK
Mainly because I'm too much of a wuss to flash a custom ROM.
And O2 UK hasn't released a newer ROM yet.
Although to be honest, theres nothing more than a niggle in the messaging (started after installing a hotfix) that isn't working, and I'm an avid believer of the "If it ain't broke, don't fix it" methods.

ROM: CleanEx v1.03
Why? It's a stripped down ROM with performance mods and it's lightning fast, based on WinMo 6.5 so looks stock - definitely worth a look IMO (see my sig)

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Stock 1.43 O2 UK
O2 UK hasn't released a newer ROM yet.
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Same here, and HIGHLY annoying from O2...waiting patiently...
I use stock as I just prefer the stock design etc, other roms seem to have stuff which I personally don't like.
I tweak it to suit my needs, but thats about it.

Stock 166 rom with cookies mods etc why coz i bricked two omnias flashing so now am too scared to brick my lovely phone

Stock 1.66 WWE, too scared to flash!! (although i did do the official upgrade from 1.48!)

SONE rom v1.36 because it is lightning fast, and has most of the apps removed, making it small, (thus freeing up extra storage space) and it is all but bug free (no sleep of death, finally!) oh, and it has cookies built in.

Artemis 5.0 with some visual tweaks (mainly elegance 3 & full landscape)
ROM: 2.10.531.7 Artemis 5.0 NLD
Radio: 2.07.50.27_2
Because for me Artemis roms have always worked great, and its like 'better stronger faster' at each new version, its a great sturdy fast rom, never had problems with installing or using any Artemis.
I use PIMBackup to copy over my contacts and messages between roms btw

L26V2.0 ultimate power. with maxmanila
why? full,fast and stable
I prefer a complete rom with most programs in it.

Stock 1.66 ROM for now... I had a HD and flashed it every couple of weeks, but I'm going to see how long stock can last me until I get bored and tired... Then I'll try out Miri, Dutty, and Laurentus in a month or so, plus any others that take my fancy.
+1 for Cookie's Mod and HD Wall for full-screen wallpaper.

Definitive Artemis v. 5.5. I have tried many different Roms and Artemis is the fastest and most stable.

artemis because:
- performance is always excellent (speed, stability, battery drain);
- it is very close to stock;
- it uses latest windows and manila builds (for leo only);
- it doesn't have compatibility issues with my 3rd party software;
- last but not least, i like sternas' attitude in pursuing his own philosophy and towards his "followers"
currently using the best and latest 5.5
cheers

Axlor V7 wm6.5
2.07 radio
My first custom rom on HD2 and its great, close to stock with some great apps and lovely Dinik icons! I have tweaked it and is running exactly how i want it!

L26V2.0 ultimate power.
why? full, fast and stable.

I'm using the ROM in my signature, because its the first one i flashed to and narly bricked my phone in the process not doing it properly getting to excited lol, so im sticking with this for a while lol

And now? What ROM are you using yet and why? Why did you switch to another ROM, just for fun or booring?

EnergyROM's 23549 Cookie build, latest release (March 17th).
I tried Artemis for a while, liked it, there was nothing wrong with it per se, just that EnergyROM was better, mostly because HTC Messaging is disabled by default, the Outlook that's included supports MMS, Swype is included, the way he does the UI just looks fantastic, Opera 10 included is amazing, and -- above all -- I love the way NRG does the Start Menu.

Stock 1.43 T-Mobile UK - with more than a dozen great cabs. Don't want to touch the registry, just in case the phone has to go back for insurance purposes and also because the ROM is pretty fast and excellent, speed-wise. Will wait for T-Mobile update and if it's a good one will get it. Otherwise l'll stay where l am at the moment because there's nothing wrong with my ROM ;-D

To flash or not to flash - that is the question

Hi chefs and gourmets,
I'd appreciate a totally frank answer to a simple question.
I have the stock WWE 1.66 ROM. I don't have major problems, just occasional hangs/freezes caused by bad apps, and I have to clean the RAM quite a bit when I have several apps running. But generally, the phone is stable and fast enough.
So, if I flashed a cooked ROM - say the Co0kie Energy ROM, which is very popular - would I notice such a difference in speed and stability that it'd be worth the day it would take me (a newbie) to flash and reinstall all my apps?
For a small, not really noticeable difference, I can't see the point. But for a 'new phone' experience, a huge jump in speed and stability, I guess I might give it a go.
I know it's hard to generalize, but if possible I'd like a rough idea of whether it's worth it.
Thanks,
David

for me (and quite a few others) the speed jump and stability are massively better than the stock roms our phones came with. However if you are happy with the speed and stability of your phone and you arent particularly intrested in experimenting in your phone then i maybe you shouldnt.

i was thinking what u are thinking a few weeks ago . could not dicide if it would make that bigger differance. but it does.
the 1st rom i tryed was steve's elegancia rom and i found it alot better than stock. more colour , faster, more stable. lots more options.
if i were you, now knowing what i know now i would change the stock rom.
plus its very easy to do .

i was in the same boat, except in the end i had no choice.
My phone was crashing daily and i eventually ran out of phone storage. So i bit the bullet and flashed the energy cht rom. I wont flash again as i now dont need to.
It is quicker, i compared it alongside a friends stock phone who literally has no apps on it at all and mine is faster. It looks waaaaaaaay better, it has much more storage and for me comes with way better options pre-installed such as swype etc.
As JJbdoggg said though if you are happy with what you already got then there probably is no NEED to flash.

as for installing everything again, lots of cooked roms use the autoinstall feature. put your most commonly used cabs into a folder called autoinstall on the sd card, and the rom installs them when it first runs.

As others have mentioned, most think as you are when they are contemplating this or anything for the first time, but id challenge you to find someone on XDA who has started flashing and all of a sudden stopped.
It becomes addictive because you are always searching for a better setup, faster etc and as it becomes easier for you to do as you become more accustomed, why wouldnt you.
Most have purchased the HD2 as its a tweakers phone, great in standard form but with so much variety in ROMS these days, your litterally a few clicks away of never looking back.
Once you start you wont be able to stop There are just so many varieties, saves you alot of hassles in terms of installing everything via CAB's as its cooked in and there are always newer updates coming out with so many tweaks for the better.

Hi
I find that if you were to flash a custom rom based around wm 6.5, the main improvements would be the updated base os and cooked apps. This can bring added stability and speed, and of course the htc base updates also bring new divers, but there is no sure and fast way to rate this with so many different apps around.
For me the biggest improvement over stock roms is the ability to use a rom based around 6.5.x which in my opinion is far more user friendly than 6.5. All of my apps work great with 6.5.x and is far more finger friendly. Come on HTC give us a official 6.5.x update!!

dso371 said:
Hi chefs and gourmets,
I'd appreciate a totally frank answer to a simple question.
I have the stock WWE 1.66 ROM. I don't have major problems, just occasional hangs/freezes caused by bad apps, and I have to clean the RAM quite a bit when I have several apps running. But generally, the phone is stable and fast enough.
So, if I flashed a cooked ROM - say the Co0kie Energy ROM, which is very popular - would I notice such a difference in speed and stability that it'd be worth the day it would take me (a newbie) to flash and reinstall all my apps?
For a small, not really noticeable difference, I can't see the point. But for a 'new phone' experience, a huge jump in speed and stability, I guess I might give it a go.
I know it's hard to generalize, but if possible I'd like a rough idea of whether it's worth it.
Thanks,
David
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Do eet...do eet now!
Seriously, flashing a GOOD rom will make your phone like new. That flash comes with updated software packages, optimized Winmo settings, etc.
Best of luck and happy flashing!

flash it! it always helps, as most custom roms are way better than stock roms!

i've flashed my first custom ROM on my TD2 in september 2009 after using stock ROM for about 2 or 3 weeks... i've tested mostly all available ROMs out there.
then i've bought my HD2 and even did not start it once in delivery condition! i've put in the battery, start bootloader, flash hspl and agian started to test available ROMs for HD2
for me windows mobile is not a platform for use out of the box! but it's my favorite platform due to the possibilities of customisation

I think I'll try other ROMs (than stock) when my warranty has expired. When I read about the hardware problems some people are having with their HD2 I think the risk of losing warranty when those hardware problems occur is too big right now.
Having said that... some of the hardware problems may turn out to be software problems and you could avoid these by using a different ROM...

dio62000 said:
I think I'll try other ROMs (than stock) when my warranty has expired. When I read about the hardware problems some people are having with their HD2 I think the risk of losing warranty when those hardware problems occur is too big right now.
Having said that... some of the hardware problems may turn out to be software problems and you could avoid these by using a different ROM...
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(assuming you have a regular leo)
dont forget the warranty need only be invalid for ten minutes. You dont have to leave hspl installed once the rom is flashed.
install hspl2 - choose 2.08.hspl
install cooked rom
run hspl2 again - choose 1.66.0000 - thats it, hspl is gone.
thats it, you have a cooked rom, and a valid spl. They wont refuse you for the cooked rom, only if you try sending it back with hspl still installed.

Ok, thanks. But are you sure they will accept a cooked ROM... even if you remove hspl? I guess the hspl is only to give the ROM a specific number then?

dio62000 said:
Ok, thanks. But are you sure they will accept a cooked ROM... even if you remove hspl? I guess the hspl is only to give the ROM a specific number then?
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no one has reported having it refused except when hspl is installed.
in theory you can make a stock rom look like a cooked rom just using cabs, (in theory, in practice it would be pretty tough) whereas hspl specifically violates the terms of use.
not sure what your last sentence means. hspl simply bypasses region and provider lock checks so the rom will install. once it is installed it doesn't need to be a hacked spl.

Thanks for explaining. I didn't know what exactly hspl does apart from allowing to flash different ROMs (although I used it for someone else's device to flash to a different language just following the instructions on the "how to flash"-topic ).

so what is a good rom
Hi
So what is a good rom
how does one instal it
how do I prepare such an installation
where to find the download of a good rom
thanks
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it's definitly worth it, even if it takes you some time to restore everything to the way it was befor! In case you become addicted to flashing you'll find a way to easily restore everything each time your flash.
I would never go back to any Stock ROM, only to send my phone back to be repaired!
Just follow the flash guides, it's really easy and takes like 10 minutes (maybe longer the first time because you try to avoid mistakes):
remove SIM and SD cards (!), do a task29, flash radio (optional!), flash ROM, hard-reset, let the phone set up, a second hard-reset, plug-in SIM and SD cards again, restore, done.

Sooner or later we shall all flash the WP7 ROM on our HD2's,so why not start now.

hagba said:
Sooner or later we shall all flash the WP7 ROM on our HD2's,so why not start now.
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sooner or later you will all kneel before my magnificence, why not start now?

samsamuel said:
sooner or later you will all kneel before my magnificence, why not start now?
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Sure,since there is life after death why not start living now.

Reinstallation question

Hi!
I have the strangest question
My phone is reaaallly slow, so I figured I'd do a hard reset and reinstall everything.
My question is, what should I do
Basically I just want the latest version of windows mobile and HD2 updates. To get it really up to date
So can you give me any recommendations on what exactly I should update?
Thanks

The easiest way is probably to flash a custom rom..... one of the newer ones.
Should contain all the freshest updatey goodness and give the speed your looking for.......

Best thing to do is work out which apps you liked and what worked and do a hard reset back to factory spec and only install the apps you like...
After getting the phone most of us install every app that comes along, settling for a few that are essential... Hard resetting and fresh installs will help greatly...
Only go a custom rom if you really know what you are doing and only if you are dedicated to try several to find one that suits you...

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After getting the phone most of us install every app that comes along, settling for a few that are essential... Hard resetting and fresh installs will help greatly...
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I know I used to do so with my old telephone (TYTN II), but recently I spoke with a friend of mine (he has a HD2 too). He's really into computers etc, and he has the latest roms and everything. He told me that his phone is A LOT faster now.
The only thing is: I have no idea where to start. Just download the latest windows mobile? or should I download the latest HTC HD2 rom? Or both? In what order? Any other updates?

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Only go a custom rom if you really know what you are doing and only if you are dedicated to try several to find one that suits you...
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I guess i'm lucky then. i settled on the first one i tried but i did have a very lenghtly read of the forums before i picked one to install
pietme said:
I know I used to do so with my old telephone (TYTN II), but recently I spoke with a friend of mine (he has a HD2 too). He's really into computers etc, and he has the latest roms and everything. He told me that his phone is A LOT faster now.
The only thing is: I have no idea where to start. Just download the latest windows mobile? or should I download the latest HTC HD2 rom? Or both? In what order? Any other updates?
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Before i went down the custom rom route i did modify a stock 1.66 rom so i can make a comparison here between as shipped stock, modded stock and custom 6.5.5. I can tell you that 6.5.5 is miles better, faster and if you get a custom rom with a newer version of sense that's even better.
Flashing custom roms has been covered so many times many people are bored of replying but i'll see what i can do in one post.
First you need a copy of HSPL3. Search for it, it will turn up. Don't ask how to install it. All you need to do is run the exe in the file you download.
Then you have a choice. You can either install and updated radio rom (will possibly improve signal and battery life but to find the best one for you and your area may take a couple of flashes and some testing) or just skip straight to the main event. I recommend that all new rom flashers use Energy 23569 standard sense 2.5 because it's fast, pretty lightweight and very close to a HTC stock rom in looks which makes it pretty easy to use. To install follow the instructions in the first couple of posts of the energy rom thread.
I also recommend that you have a look at leocpuspeed V4 and chainfire's 3D driver patch v2 (search for those). Once configured they will greatly improve the performance of the device running any rom you install and it's well worth it.

if you dont wanna go custom rom, i guess you could check see if you have all the latest updates from the HTC site, take it from there, only install apps to the device that need to be on the device such as tweaking apps and install everything else on the sd card, and get your self clean ram or bsb ram sweeper, will reclaim the ram for you from the programs you thought you may have closed but didnt really close.

A few questions about flashing cooked ROMs... Hoping for a quick answer...

So, I have had my HD2 for a few days now (5), and I am thinking of flashing a custom ROM this morning. Here is what I am curious about...
Question 1: Will the stock flip clock/weather be replaced? I am, for some reason, a HUGE fan of the stock flip clock and the weather animations (sun rays, lightning, etc), and I don't want to loose that. Is it included with most cooked ROMs, or would I lose it? I know there are different versions, but I really like the look of the stock one, and it's size, format, etc.
Question 2: I have added a number of programs and registry tweaks since I picked it up last week. From my experience flashing Android ROMs, I am fairly sure I will loose all the apps I installed, but that's no biggie. What about all the registry tweaks to speed up the device though? Are those included in most cooked ROMs, or will I have to do them again... or, will I even need them with fast ROMs? There was one to raise the DPP from 16 -> 24, which I liked a lot.
Question 3: What is the fastest and most inclusive ROM for a US-TMo HD2? I know that aesthetics are subjective, but what about pure performance, and the number of tweaks and additions added? Especially ROMs that already include apps like CHT and BsB, and maybe Reg Editors?
Also, I know I need to do HSPL first, but do I do that while the stock ROM is in place? Will that wipe the ROM, or will I do the HSPL then boot normally into my stock ROM?
I know that's a lot to ask, but I would REALLY appreciate the help. I come from modding Android phones and am new to WM6.5+, so while I am constantly reading to learn, there is a LOT to learn, so I want to make sure I am getting into something I will be happy with, rather than regret...
Thanks !!!

1. most custom roms have the regular flip clock
2. sadly, yes, they will all be wiped out
3. try the energy roms.
4. HSPL comes first, then the roms.

when you install hspl you can use the stock rom with it, no problem at all, it's just unlock your phone in order to flash cooked roms, so you don't brick it.
I have Core cell Evo v2 and is the best cooked rom outhere you going to like it, believe me.

1. Some roms have it customized and some leave it stock
2. You will loose all your programs and reg tweaks. Though depending on what tweaks you use the cooked roms might have them already implemented. Check out Core Cell v2 roms they have a new backup tool to back everything up for you when flashing new roms.
3. Kumar's rom is really nice and probably closest to the stock HD2. I've been using Core Cell Evo roms for a while and is by far my favorite. A lot of the features they have added are really nice.
HSPL3 needs to be flashed first so you can flash custom roms. Though be warned flashing the HSPL3 will void the warranty of your phone, but you can revert back to the stock one if you need to get it fixed. Best advice I can give you for roms is to flash a couple different roms to see which one you like.

Thanks everyone!