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Power Button!!!

Hello all,
I have not rooted my phone as of yet but plan on doing it. I used to have a G1 and moved to the slide. The biggest problem I have is I like to keep my phone in my pocket at work, but have to have the phone off. If I barely tap the phone's power button it turns on and I end up either pulling the battery or putting my phone in my lunch bag (praying no one takes it).
Anyone know if it is possible to change the power button to need a long press to turn on instead of a short press? Alternatively moving the power button to the genius button would work too.
Any ideas?

Can't you just put your phone into silent mode? Airplane mode? Or turn off the mobile network.

Unfortunatly for me to be able to have my phone on me it has to be off. It is a government facility and its their rules. I may be outta luck but figured I'd ask the fine people here.
Thanks!

It can be done
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i have been looking into remappring the buttons, follow link in sig above and it may help

tubaking182 said:
i have been looking into remappring the buttons, follow link in sig above and it may help
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I looked and in my keylayout directory, I have 3 *keypad.kl files, a Verion 0, 1, and 2... whats the deal on those?
Edit: Eh, doesn't really matter. None of them clearly had a "GENIUS" label. On was called SOFT RIGHT, which may or may not be it...

i was mainly looking into them last night, made bachups of course, tonight i will be playing with changing things and seeing if it works, i figure i will start be changing the A key in each version to something different(comma in one, period in another and something else in another) then we can see which version the phone is reading(i would think it would be v2 but idk) and then we can start remapping those buttons.
not sure how we would change power to require a long press though

May I advise a hard-case?
The idea is that it adds a layer around the phone, and this makes the power button indented. Protecting it from accidental hits.
1/8 of an inch makes all the diff.

Foolish Frost said:
May I advise a hard-case?
The idea is that it adds a layer around the phone, and this makes the power button indented. Protecting it from accidental hits.
1/8 of an inch makes all the diff.
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For an interim solution I may look into this. I know my problem isn't the norm so I appreciate all the comments!!
Thanks!

Junonion said:
For an interim solution I may look into this. I know my problem isn't the norm so I appreciate all the comments!!
Thanks!
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So in the creation of this abnormal problem, do you do anything abnormal? For instance, are you poking around in your pockets? Does your Government job require any running and jumping where as to cause crushing of objects into your pocket? Can you carry the phone in an exclusive pocket? (i.e. just the phone, no keys, loose change, peanuts, hard candy, etc.) food for thought...

JWKJr said:
So in the creation of this abnormal problem, do you do anything abnormal? For instance, are you poking around in your pockets? Does your Government job require any running and jumping where as to cause crushing of objects into your pocket? Can you carry the phone in an exclusive pocket? (i.e. just the phone, no keys, loose change, peanuts, hard candy, etc.) food for thought...
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Nope, just an average guy sitting at a desk working with computers. I have nothing in the front left pocket of my pants other than lint and my phone normally. Thing is...the slide likes to slide around and all it takes is a tap of that power button. I wouldn't never know it was turning on if it wasn't for that annoying T-mobile sound (which I'll get rid of eventually if this problem is resolved).
I've also had the phone slide out of my pocket before and keeping it still in the car while listening to pandora can be interesting. I'll have to look for a good all-purpose case that could fix all these small annoyances I guess lol.

Didn't see it posted in here, but if you can boot into Clockwork Recovery using the update.zip in the root thread, under the Advanced menu, you can do a Key Test, and every key you press, it's key # is displayed. None shows up for the Genius button. This is probably because of what was mentioned before, being mapped by software, or something...

Junonion said:
Nope, just an average guy sitting at a desk working with computers. I have nothing in the front left pocket of my pants other than lint and my phone normally. Thing is...the slide likes to slide around and all it takes is a tap of that power button. I wouldn't never know it was turning on if it wasn't for that annoying T-mobile sound (which I'll get rid of eventually if this problem is resolved).
I've also had the phone slide out of my pocket before and keeping it still in the car while listening to pandora can be interesting. I'll have to look for a good all-purpose case that could fix all these small annoyances I guess lol.
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i know it isnt a solution to your problem, but if you power off the phone while in silent mode, it wont play the tmo sound when powering on the next time.
Not a solution, but it may keep you from being discovered if it does accidentally happen.

Junonion said:
Hello all,
I have not rooted my phone as of yet but plan on doing it. I used to have a G1 and moved to the slide. The biggest problem I have is I like to keep my phone in my pocket at work, but have to have the phone off. If I barely tap the phone's power button it turns on and I end up either pulling the battery or putting my phone in my lunch bag (praying no one takes it).
Anyone know if it is possible to change the power button to need a long press to turn on instead of a short press? Alternatively moving the power button to the genius button would work too.
Any ideas?
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Junonion said:
Unfortunatly for me to be able to have my phone on me it has to be off. It is a government facility and its their rules. I may be outta luck but figured I'd ask the fine people here.
Thanks!
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Not to sound like a smart ass but if you cant have it on when working then why keep it in your pocket? leave it in your car.

You maybe better off getting a case to keep the phone on your hip and out of your pocket. I personally don't like putting my phone in my pocket unless its a flip phone. I bought a case for cheap off of Ebay.
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Pop out the battery. That's my super-geek move to the power button issue =)
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Side note, as there seem to be possible issues with dust collecting under the bottom of the screen glass, may not be the best idea to keep it in your pocket unprotected anyway.

Do what I did, buy a holster from T-mobile. I basically have to do the same thing as you but only in my budiling! (Government facility also) reason I don't leave it in the car is that I like to have my phone with me in case I need to make a phone call outside of the office.
The holster keeps you from acidentally pressing the power button and its comfortable on your hip and its convient.

I just keep mine in the cloth case that came with my G1...if you still have it its worth a shot...it keeps the button from being pressed...
-BMFC
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FYI,
Power is key 116
Genius button is key 187

Back button not responding.

My back button on the front capacitive screen won't respond the first time, I have to keep on hitting it until it registers. Anyone else have this issue?
I did some research and found out that the Vibrant was having the same issue with their home button.

Those buttons are my biggest gripe with the phone. You have to REALLY FREAKIN press on them. On the Evo, you just need to touch them lightly. I really love the bottom buttons on the evo. With the epic, touching them doesn't work. You need to press. Sometimes more than once. I also end up accidentally long pressing just to get it to work sometimes.
Samsung needs to learn from HTC and fix their buttons.

hydralisk said:
Those buttons are my biggest gripe with the phone. You have to REALLY FREAKIN press on them. On the Evo, you just need to touch them lightly. I really love the bottom buttons on the evo. With the epic, touching them doesn't work. You need to press. Sometimes more than once. I also end up accidentally long pressing just to get it to work sometimes.
Samsung needs to learn from HTC and fix their buttons.
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N1s capactive buttons suck too, its HTC.

hydralisk said:
Those buttons are my biggest gripe with the phone. You have to REALLY FREAKIN press on them. On the Evo, you just need to touch them lightly. I really love the bottom buttons on the evo. With the epic, touching them doesn't work. You need to press. Sometimes more than once. I also end up accidentally long pressing just to get it to work sometimes.
Samsung needs to learn from HTC and fix their buttons.
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I thought it was just me with the button thing. U actually have to press instead of just tapping it like on the evo
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It is not just you. Some are genuinely faulty. I see this being hte first major defect of this device. The back key on some seems to be worse than the search, home and menu keys. I had to replace my first Epic because of it.

I'm dealing with this, and the battery charging issue.

Ya I bought six epics for my whole family today. 4 are fine and 2 have back button issues. To the point where on one I have to push down severly hard. I am taking it back tommorow and going to see if they can swap it out.

I hope mune is not like this when I get it

My issue is with the MENU button and I notice that the feedback is the strongest on the HOME button. Sounds like the Epic is going back tomorrow.

This can probably be fixed with a software patch. If its common among all galaxy s phones, im sure samsung will issue a patch for this.

Gosh, reading all these post and trolling irc as the day wenton, I'm gad to only suffer the biggest problem of the epic, not being able to put it down! And maybe the spacebar, lol.
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yea the ones that work are awesome... but the back button is unusable at all on 2 of mine so gotta get them replaced. Hopefully they still have a few left.

Yeah I noticed that too, it is inconsistent sometimes with almost all of them.
Sometimes you lightly tap it and it goes and than other times you will do it 3-4 times before it goes.

anyway to set the bottom buttons (back, home etc..) to be lid longer time?

Possible Solution: I do not have mine yet, but this is what I noticed from watching the reviews. If the lights are OFF on the buttons you need to press them more than once. If the lights are ON they will be responsive.
The light timer is linked to the keyboard backlight timer. Increase the keyboard timer(in settings) and the buttons will stay on longer as well, 30 seconds should be a good setting.
Again, I do not have my phone yet. Can someone with the issue please confirm this is a proper solution?

Pops_G said:
Possible Solution: I do not have mine yet, but this is what I noticed from watching the reviews. If the lights are OFF on the buttons you need to press them more than once. If the lights are ON they will be responsive.
The light timer is linked to the keyboard backlight timer. Increase the keyboard timer(in settings) and the buttons will stay on longer as well, 30 seconds should be a good setting.
Again, I do not have my phone yet. Can someone with the issue please confirm this is a proper solution?
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"Increase the keyboard timer(in settings) and the buttons will stay on longer as well, 30 seconds should be a good setting."
worked like a charm, thank you

Back Button Issue
Got my Epic on 8/31 at about noon. I spent about 4 hours setting it up and did not even try making a call (except for one very short call). While working on the setup I noticed I had to hit the back button anywhere from 3 to 5 times and sometimes I really had to press hard.
Once I starting making calls with it I noticed that it had a lot of static and each call made it worse. Took it back to Sprint and got a new one. The new phone has NO issues with the back key!
Makes it seem like a hardware issue.
tsp

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Again, I do not have my phone yet. Can someone with the issue please confirm this is a proper solution?
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Unfortunately most people having this problem are having it when the lights are on. A lot of people have returned their epics already due to the buttons on the bottom....

I am having the same problem with the keys, they all need to be a lot more responsive. The back key is the worse.. Sometimes I have to press it 10 times for it to work.

vooman said:
I am having the same problem with the keys, they all need to be a lot more responsive. The back key is the worse.. Sometimes I have to press it 10 times for it to work.
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I find that when i stop for a second and then press it good and hard, it works. I don't like that... but it never completely fails on me.
I hope they fan fix it so that you just need to slide your finger over it to make it work. That's how the Evo is. I think everyone would prefer that.

[REQ] Trackpad Wake

Well one of my biggest complains by far has got to be reaching my finger all the way across to the top everytime I want to use the phone. On my G1, every single one of the buttons could turn it on, and I know that on the nexus there is a hack called "trackball wake" that does precisely this. Does anyone think that they might be able to port this over? Lol and while we're on the topic of remapping buttons, how about porting the CM long press on volume rocker to skip songs?
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This type of thing really bothers me. You're seriously too lazy to reach up 3 inches to press the unlock button? Come on people, its a phone. Half the things on this forum are due to pure lazyness. No personal attack to you, just saying.
Other then that, no there's no app out at the moment. I'm sure cyanogen is working on it if its not done already. Probably waiting for perm root and custom recovery. Patience...
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I sometimes just pop the keyboard out-and-in and the screen unlocks. Especially easy since my hinge is loose... ;-(

mejorguille said:
Well one of my biggest complains by far has got to be reaching my finger all the way across to the top everytime I want to use the phone. On my G1, every single one of the buttons could turn it on, and I know that on the nexus there is a hack called "trackball wake" that does precisely this. Does anyone think that they might be able to port this over? Lol and while we're on the topic of remapping buttons, how about porting the CM long press on volume rocker to skip songs?
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Maybe once the phone is rooted. Otherwise, we can only wish that HTC will pull their heads out of their asses and pay attention to some of the great features coming out of the ROM community.
So yeah, once the phone is rooted.

You know... I wouldnt mind having something like this. It'd be a little more convenient.
I wonder if Tasker can do something like this.

As long as it is configurable so I don't accidentally unlock the screen in my pocket and uselessly waste battery. I dunno my index finger is always sitting next to the power button when I am holding the phone, its not that hard.
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Coming from BB....
in BB the track pad is king.....is is not about laziness...but depending on the situation....if I have it sitting on my desk it would be nice to just press the tp with a finger, as opposed to having to hold the phone with my hand in order to press the top button....

How is this a matter of laziness? Sure I can reach up there, but wouldn't it be much easier just to press the button? It's a matter of convenience, not laziness. Also, my case covers the power button.

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This type of thing really bothers me. You're seriously too lazy to reach up 3 inches to press the unlock button? Come on people, its a phone. Half the things on this forum are due to pure lazyness. No personal attack to you, just saying.
Other then that, no there's no app out at the moment. I'm sure cyanogen is working on it if its not done already. Probably waiting for perm root and custom recovery. Patience...
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It' not a matter of lazyness, it's that it's different from the way I'm used to doing things. The whole point of android is that you can customize it however you like. I mean, according to your thinking, using a bluetooth/wifi/brightness toggle widget makes me lazy since all those settings can already be changed manually? Really?
And I know there's nothing out yet to do what I want. If you check logcat though, every time you push a button on the device you can see the output on the computer. I was hoping a more talented coder than I could help me achieve what I wanted, or at least could point me in the right direction so that I can try to figure this out on my own. Do we really need perma-root for this? It would definately help out so that we don't have to reaply it everytime, but we could make a gscript or something similar with what we have now.
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So are you saying that all people who use the trackball to wake up their phones are lazy? Are you saying that wanting to make it easier for myself is a matter a laziness? So what do you call a TV Remote. I COULD get up a turn the TV off, or I can use the remote. Your logic is flawed, maybe you need to find something worthwhile to ***** about.

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Gosh XDA can be is really mean.... I mean, I made a simple request because I thought it would be a nice feature to have but I'm getting eaten alive for being "lazy". If you look me up, you'll see that a good 85% of my posts are on the G1 are helping out newbies out. I was just expecting similar treatment here.
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That would be a great feature. On my Nexus I use NoLock from the market. One of the main reasons I use this is because of the power button on the Nexus had a history of dying after long wear and tear. If you can take away the wear and tear on a part with a history of failing then it is a big plus.I want this feature for my G2 as well. Tried both NoLock and Widgetlocker without success. They both work on the Nexus One without root.

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great idea. Thats why they did it on the nexus one....
no laziness. also because the power button broke easy on the nexus and people wanted a way to unlock their phone.

The power button being on top is one of my number one things i dislike about this phone, makes it akward to turn on. So I would LOVE track pad wake. Especially since my hard case kind makes the track pad recessed a bit so it would be hard to push in my pocket.

There is a app on the market called extended controls which has a option to turn off auto lock and use any button to wake the phone up I use it in the car when listening to music, pandora, or making phone calls...
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Yup it is kind of habit, not simply laziness
I am still getting used to pressing the power key and then swipe the screen to unlock, come on! Most of the time I just turn on then shut the screen
When I was using my G1 with custom rom all I need to do was to press the menu button twice
Hope this thing gets sorted out soon

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yup this thread is filled with dbags who have probably never customized anything in their lives and just accept things the way they are
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Yea I've never customized anything in my life even though the g2 is my 2nd android device ever. Wait not to mention I've bought and sold iphones for a living along with jailbreaking them in every possible way and customizing them for anyone with specific settings. But yea i guess "dbags like me never customized anything in my life" id customize my automatic reboot issue but i havent found out how so i guess i gotta accept things the way they are
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haha such a heated debate over this. but i agree the power button is in a really bad spot. i was baffled why they didnt make the trackball wake up the phone, especially since it doesnt stick out and sits flush with the front part of the phone so there's minimal chance of an accidental push. to have to push a small button on the very top and back part of the phone and then have to swipe across the bottom of the screen to unlock the phone is really a pain in the ass, especially using it with one hand. the only way it makes sense is if u slid down from the top right of the screen to unlock so u got one fluid motion going.
and while we're on the subject of dumb hardware decisions why the search button on the front but no phone button? maybe it's just me

I came from the iPhone 2G, so Im familar with the power button placement. It did take me a little time to get use to it since the G2 is slightly thicker. I dont think it's in a bad spot though.
Now if we want to talk about bad spots, then the micro USB port is the winner. Not sure what they were thinking there. Why cant it be at the bottom?
Anyway, the trackpad definitely needs a way to wake up the phone. If not a touch-to-wake at least a press-to-wake would be cool.
Personally, the power button should be reserved for powering down and locking the phone.

it was a simple hack on the mytouch slide when i had that, all we needed to do was change a few things in the keymaps and it was fixed, unfortunately since we have NAND locked device we would need to re-apply the hack every time(save hacked keymap to sdcard and add entry to visionary.sh to copy it over to /system) maybe i will look into it, maybe i won't either way the rest of you should be able to figure it out with some looking around the forums and at the correct files

yeah, need track pad and shutter button wake.

Hardware buttons

Having installed android just recently on my hd2, I started to use my hardware buttons more often. Now, whenever I push the windows-flag-button on the far left (still the button but close to its left rim), then the home-button is pushed too. Is this a general flaw of the hardware buttons or is it just my hd2. I would love to see some response, in order to see whether it makes any sense to send it in or to just live with it.
Thanks in advance!!

After I changed to the "Photon" style and use, I started using the hardware buttons extensively - that was already last summer.
Did never have any issue like you describe. Still everything working perfect for me.

erniepb said:
Having installed android just recently on my hd2, I started to use my hardware buttons more often. Now, whenever I push the windows-flag-button on the far left (still the button but close to its left rim), then the home-button is pushed too. Is this a general flaw of the hardware buttons or is it just my hd2. I would love to see some response, in order to see whether it makes any sense to send it in or to just live with it.
Thanks in advance!!
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I have the same issue with my HD2 (also using an Android NAND). I believe, that it is a hardware-flaw, and not a ROM-Issue. I just made myself press more on the right of that button (closer to the middle of these two buttons (Flag and Back-button)) , and now it doesn't really bother me anymore.
I hope, I could help.
laerador
BTW: I own a O2 HD2 from Germany. (Might, that this flaw is connected to a specific model)

The hardware buttons begin failing on a lot of hd2s, this is a common problem since android makes you use hardware buttons more. There are several threads about it. Luckily, a dev from this forum created button savior for android, an app that creates soft buttons on the side of your screen that can pull out when you need them. Get Button Savior from the market... a needed app for the hd2 so you don't have to use your hardware buttons so much.

Just in case you don't know: there's a software alternative for hardware buttons on Android, SW Key.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=865525
Edit: oops sorry, previous poster also pointed you towards that. Well, here's the link ;-)

try not to use your nail to click on the key,, use the middle of your fingers to push slowly down.
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is there any work around after a button has failed

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is there any work around after a button has failed
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Yeah, you read the whole thread
dio62000 said:
Just in case you don't know: there's a software alternative for hardware buttons on Android, SW Key.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=865525
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My HD2 is about year old. I bought it (months 4 ago) with broken digitizer. Replaced it itself. What i finded inside is interesting. Buttons bar have clued some small plastic dots (see on pic). As i understand they fits to keypad excrescent plastic dots (dont have pic). And one of these on buttons bar was gone. I ordered then new button bar and now no more problems with buttons. Before i had too problems when i pushed home button accidently popped up calling or menu (windows logo button pressed).
Hope this helped you find right direction to resolve your problem.

Sorry, maybe the question was phrased incorrectly.
my home button has failed. in ASOP builds my phone boots into safemode.
in Sense builds it doesnt, but my battery ussage in both types of builds is above 50 ma
can I turn off the buttons to sort out the short in the rom.

Thanks for your response!!
I have sent it in for repair and got a 100% cash refund.
Well, let's see what little gadget I can buy for the money ...

Anyone a bit annoyed at the lack of sensitivity of the back button on the HTC one?

I really do love the phone, but in find that the back button is a lot less sensitive that I would have liked.
I am coming from a GNex which had all buttons on the screen, and that worked great.
I can get used to not having a centre home button where the HTC logo is, but
I just find this back button a little annoying.
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wyase9 said:
I really do love the phone, but in find that the back button is a lot less sensitive that I would have liked.
I am coming from a GNex which had all buttons on the screen, and that worked great.
I can get used to not having a centre home button where the HTC logo is, but
I just find this back button a little annoying.
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I thought the same but it seems more about hitting the button in the right place. Once you have it sussed it's not a problem

animaleyes76 said:
I thought the same but it seems more about hitting the button in the right place. Once you have it sussed it's not a problem
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Correct. The area of capacitive sensitivity is just a tiny bit larger than the back button icon itself. This means precise hitting is required. I think they should have made the touch sensitive area larger....

Ahh., I see what you mean. I will have to practice a bit. Yes, it is annoying, but it is just nitpicking a bit, I will have to manage it.
Thanks for the tips
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animaleyes76 said:
I thought the same but it seems more about hitting the button in the right place. Once you have it sussed it's not a problem
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exactly, its just the button seems to be quite small - im not sure if thats a physical thing or a software thing (dont know how those "digitizer" things work) but maybe it can be changed in custom rom? who knows

It is too small then, this is the most annoying thing about this phone...when combined with the three dots, I keep hitting the menu!
I hope this can be improved.
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Well, because you are Nexus user. I am sure you can disable hardware buttons, and use only on-screen. If that is the problem to you.

if you put the vibration mode on it is easier to judge where the home button is ..
settings
sound
and select vibrate on touch
so every time you hit the home button you can physically feel it ... no vibration .. wrong place

sensetivity
Larger button area would make it easier to hit by mistake having just switched from my Desire s I too have found myself tapping the screen trying to get a response but it just takes a little getting used to and after just a few days I'm finding it works almost every time now unless I'm a bit pissed lol