New section: BadaOS - Bada Software Development

I propose creating new section about Bada Operating system
So far is only one device: Samsung Wave [s8500] but next two will be avaible in november.
Samsung made 'Bada Cup', so we can also win 300,000 USD
I hope, that we create a lot of good aplications

VirtualVassi said:
I propose creating new section about Bada Operating system
So far is only one device: Samsung Wave [s8500] but next two will be avaible in november.
Samsung made 'Bada Cup', so we can also win 300,000 USD
I hope, that we create a lot of good aplications
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Are there any developers out there that are already or plan to hack around with Bada OS?

I think that it should great idea, Few users are browsing this section of forum.
Adding it will take second and I think, that users want creating on this platform will be find. Software on bada is creating in C++ and is familiar to Android, also on Linux code. On page Samsung we can find SDK for developers.
Sorry for mistakes, but English isn't my basic english.
EDIT:
Samsung Wave is selling in 40 countries so soon will be more people interess this platform

My wave is coming tomorrow, but I'm already searching for customization. A new section dedicated to Bada OS would be great as I didn't find much information on the net about this new platform.

Android on wave
I have got my wave s8500. it will will be cool to install android 2.2 on it. Has any one found how to remove samsung bada os and install android on it ?
anyway its a cool phone.

So, here is some people, which want section dedicated BadaOS. Please make it, because this page is the best support for phones in the internet. Samsung wants create more smartphones with BadaOS, so here should appear more interesed people this platform. If we will support BadaOS, I'm sure more people will choose with this platform because now it is new platform, and people worry about support of this.
I hope we will consider positively my request.
Sorry for my English.
VirtualVassi

ya ya even i need a section for bada OS....its a high end platform for games and applications so it would be great to hack it .

I would give a thumbs up for this suggestion Btw, where to go to get a Bada developer? Need to hire one if you are going to enter the competition

my invitation to our agreement with a new section just for BADA OS ........ for my samsung gt-s8500 ....

Bada OS
I also support the idea of having an own section for bada .
Samsung S8500 for the way .

+1 Count me in.

I'm writing something about BadaOS and Mac OS X compatibility but decided not to continue. It's just not mac friendly.
Don't get me wrong, I love my Samsung Wave, speed and screen, for its price, its already a good phone.
I bought it knowing that it will not work with MAC, I just hoped that there was at least Google wireless sync. Good thing I can easily fire up boot camp and use Windows, but...
Samsung Kies, is not that easy to use. Took me hours to make it work under Windows 7. All drivers installed but won't connect to Kies. The only way to make Kies detect the Wave is format the sdcard, then I'm good to go in synchronizing my contacts. Needed to export my contacts from Google then to Kies then to Wave.
Haven't tried my calender entries as I leave that to my HTC Desire.
So to those planning to get the wave, its a great phone as I said, super AMOLED, 1GHz, 720p video recording, great camera app to name a few, but....
Don't expect that it will work with your mac (even windows) out of the box.
Sent from my HTC Desire using Tapatalk

So for now, we're not going to have a section for BadaOS or the Wave. Reasons:
1. There's only one device that supports it and we haven't heard from Samsung on whether there will be more
2. The development story is unknown
If either of the above changes, we'll certainly reconsider. We have to be selective when adding new devices to XDA because the site is already packed.

svetius said:
So for now, we're not going to have a section for BadaOS or the Wave. Reasons:
1. There's only one device that supports it and we haven't heard from Samsung on whether there will be more
2. The development story is unknown
If either of the above changes, we'll certainly reconsider. We have to be selective when adding new devices to XDA because the site is already packed.
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To 1.: Well, Samsung has announced two other bada-phones, they will be available in august...
Source: Engadget (I'm not yet allowed to post links, so i can't link you the exact site )

if only it wasnt so BADa

Samsung has announced two bada phone:
1.s5220 (wave 2)
2.s5330 (wave 2 pro)
both of them have bada and both coming in august so s8500 is not alone
And what do you mean by "The development story is unknown"?
Thanks

Hi
+1 for a Bada dedicated section.
Two more Bada phones should be out soon by Samsung and I think the root for development is in C++, which is more complicated than simple Java programing, but, from what I've red on it, really rock solid and fast.
I have to add that this forum is my n°1 source of information for my mobile and I'm waiting my Wave to arrive soon.
Have a good day

Bada
Sold my good old HD and have now a Samsung Wave.
Looking for themes, apps, android and other cooked ROMs.
Yes, a Bada Section would be great.

i have samsung wave and i hope it will be supported by xda

I would also like to see some development besides the Samsung appstore. Cause it's fun!

Related

Samsung s8500 Wave

Hi
Any info on Android for this phone?
Just bought it and i'm looking forward to play with it.
Nicolai
Or WM 6.5.x ROM... would be also great...
I will support Android on wave s8500.
kenkiller said:
It will never happen.
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What i am more interested in is a bada rom on our android devices, is bada open source ?
yes bada is opensource...
I have a general question. If a mobile OS is open source like Android and Bada, does that mean things like drivers for the antenna and important system level files are subject to being altered? Beyond just device stability, can you alter a device to crash, do harm, or infest the cell network its hooked up to? What about altering the antenna to broadcast and receive prohibited signals that screw with important communications systems? Basically I was just wondering how far you could go with an open source OS and if any dangers like these existed. I guess this would also apply to Linux on a computer as well?
actually, Samsung Wave is very similar to the Galaxy... And BadaOS is based on Linux like Android, so i although thought a port should be not that great deal... but it seems that no developer are interested in Samsungs Wave.
yeah its very similar, might be ported soon
for the next apps for android in samsung s8500 is possible, with the ROM share and security, that enbales to install better safety and good measures for all its use. The use of openoffice with new device that can make more faster, compliant and user friendly.
loosa2k said:
actually, Samsung Wave is very similar to the Galaxy... And BadaOS is based on Linux like Android, so i although thought a port should be not that great deal... but it seems that no developer are interested in Samsungs Wave.
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Yup
Tis a shame

[REQUEST] SDK Honeycomb for Galaxy tab

The SDK is out, now port it to the TAB!
http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2011/01/android-30-platform-preview-and-updated.html
+1 This would be freaking great!
Sent from Overclocked Galaxy Tab.
It took how long for this request? Lol.
Done we need the source code first?
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mafiaboy01 said:
Done we need the source code first?
Sent from my GT-P1000 using Tapatalk
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It is possible to do a largely broken version based on the system image in the emulator folder.
TheGrammarFreak said:
It is possible to do a largely broken version based on the system image in the emulator folder.
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there is no system image as this is only a platform PREVIEW!
some people CANT read!
Landroid said:
there is no system image as this is only a platform PREVIEW!
some people CANT read!
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I guess by "some people" you meant yourself
The Preview SDK includes:
An early Android 3.0 system image for use in the Android emulator <------- *********
An Android 3.0 library with non-final APIs
A new WXGA emulator skin for an extra large Android Virtual Device
New documentation for Android 3.0, including a complete API reference, new developer guides, and an API differences report between Android 3.0 and 2.3.
From here : http://developer.android.com/sdk/preview/index.html
CPG
Yeap, there is a system image and I already pulled some apps ^^
Edit: The AVD is extremely slow... meeeh..
could someone at least get the browser working on the tab http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=930352
Source still needs to drop!
Same case with gingerbread. It was **** but ran. Once source dropped the magic began.
The launcher won't run with anything but the standard Xoom resolution
sts_fin said:
The SDK is out, now port it to the TAB!
http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2011/01/android-30-platform-preview-and-updated.html
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SIR!!
YES SIR!!
How about a please? Or wait until there's at least some semi-useful AOSP source available, the SDK build is not complete enough to be very useful. If you need to have a play with it, try using the VM in the SDK install.
From the 3.0 Platform highlights taken 'Android 3.0 is the first version of the platform designed to run on either single or multicore processor architectures.'
So I guess no need to leave the Tab behind !!! So I hope samsung will go ahead and deliver us this update!
Just one small story about Samsung, Tab, and Honeycomb...
About Samsung:
I hope that Samsung will port it for me so. Usually this is not normal in the real world, but Samsung will drop 2.3 for Galaxy S what is nowadays and old device, Galaxy Tab is newer and almost the first real, high quality Android tablet. This is clearly a tablet, what Honeycomb made for. The most sold Android phone is the Galaxy S and the most sold Android tablet the Galaxy Tab (with the totally agreements of problems about Samsung made this device before Google made the correct platform for it...), so nowadays the Samsung brand itself is very very strong and not just about the last years productions but these 2 products (real!)! So I think Samsung could make a 'small suicide' step if they forgot this device and forgot their users. They promised nothing, but could be a very negative echo about Samsung if they leave this device in the past, without any development.
About Honeycomb:
That is really not need hardcore hardware. The only real hw requirement is the strong video performance, but this is almost just for the new stock homescreen application. The lot full OpenGL handled screens and effects really need strong graphic performance, but Galaxy Tab in this case is not weak! For such situations the GFX performane is enought I think. The dual core CPU is just one very good addon, to make faster everything and make the device as one real device from the future, but for normal works the current hardware is enought. If Samsung dont want to overload the Tab then just need to leave out the new 'home'. For tabbed browsing the current RAM capacity is need to be enought. The device will not as fast as Xoom, but who care? Just leave out the needless plus features and give to the user the Honeycomb base with new browser, new gmail client, new settings, etc, etc... these are not power hungry things. One brand new device will better that Tab, but anyway we could use almost enything, and Samsung could make their brand more strong with hype and satisfied users of Tab as they do with Galaxy S.
Conclusions:
New Samsung devices? no problem, they will better, people will buy them, cause the new OLED screen, some new features, faster and harder hardware... but Tab could use Honeycomb as from this aspect it need nothing extra, and as a real tablet it need the OS what handle it in such way without any over glitches.
I hope Samsung will make a right decision, because there is no any real problem (nor technical nor business like) behind it!
Hi,
And please Samsung! Read my previous post!!!
eboIa said:
About Samsung:
*snip*
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You are completely true about this Samsung will push out the Tab2 in 16 days at the MWC2011 press event. If the tab is going to get the 3.0 its going to be the last update for the device. Also the Galaxy S is going to get its killing blow in 16days since the Galaxy S 2 is also comming out there.
Yes as you wrote, Samsung will drop the 2 new device to make new strong apperiance in the global market with the new devices, developments, etc... new user will buy them of course, some old user will sell the old products, and buy a new one but far from all. 2.3 for SGS will the latest as your wrote, and I hope that 3.0 will also the latest for SGT, its not bad, this is the only needed. With it Samsung will get strong user satisfactions, old users could boost the global brand loyality. I dont want Android 7.0 on these devices... theses versions is more then enought for this products, and this not sign that I will never buy a new Android device... more over... I will buy just not now (if Samsung leave me alone, I will never buy Samsung 'mobile' again, and this is true for lot of people), and if Samsung will go on this way I will buy one Samsung again... 6 month ago I hate Samsung with their software developments for SGS, now, currently, I like them, because they have enought power on software development to make themself one of the best. There are problems? where not? If Samsung could reach user satisfactions, with the current sw, hw developments they could be the largest company in this busines. The target is it, I think.
Just drop the new devices what will shine, if I were in situatuions to buy a new device, without hesitate I could buy them. There are lot of people in the word who just wait to these products... and there are some others as me, who bought the first device to simply satisfy, and we were those user who make stronger the reputation of Samsung. Is it problem to make me available Honeycomb? Don't thing so. But of course Samsung could use a wrong receipt, hope that will not!
YES I can taste the honeycomb anytime soon...

App development contest $100000 in cash

I found this today:
http://developer.bada.com/events/bada2.0-Power-App-Race?rlWlfcp=duq&isReturn=Y
and I thought that it is a great idea of Samsung to do that because money is of course a huge motivation factor to develop apps.
Contest runs from the 18th of October til the 31st of December.
First 10 developers who develop an App and put it on Samsung Apps will get a chance to win $100000 if their App will be downloaded 100000 times in the above called time-range. The App has to be developed with the bada SDK 2.0 tool (or above).
For further information visit the link above.
So please all of the great devs who are around here please develop great apps for Bada because it is Bada`s biggest problem to have a lack of useful apps but I like Samsung`s approach to this kind of problem, they are really trying to push their OS higher and higher.
I hate the idea of that contest and i announce it from now
We (Team VEA) are not going to enter that challenge because we are not sure if bada users will make 100,000 downloads of Voluntas in that short time
it is contest for games in our eyes not apps
Best Regards
If they wouldn't be sure of this, they wouldn't have set the download numbers so high
There are many millions of Bada handhelds, so I don't think that would be the problem
mylove90 said:
I hate the idea of that contest and i announce it from now
We (Team VEA) are not going to enter that challenge because we are not sure if bada users will make 100,000 downloads of Voluntas in that short time
it is contest for games in our eyes not apps
Best Regards
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if Voluntas works well and will be uploaded gratis on the market I think it'll reach 100'000 download in about 10 days or minus.
However I also don't like this type of contest, the download counter could be increased with some stupid tricks.
polaris office ? XD
uhmmmm
Voip ?
sms free
browser
Voluntas
editor photo, Video
It is also kind of weird that Samsung starts a Bada 2.0 contest when Bada 2.0 isn`t even officially released yet. I mean devs have to test the developed App on the device itself before putting it up on Samsung Apps (or am I wrong here?), so Samsung insists that developers who already start to develop an app do early testing of their app on a Beta Firmware, which isn`t the best thing to do I guess.
I don`t know if this is a smart move from Samsung starting a contest when the main firmware for it isn`t even out yet...

[NEWS] Some Thoughts about "Spoofing" - PLEASE READ!

I wrote this article about the consequences of "Spoofing"...
Please read it...!
It would be nice, if this article could be translated into other languages and posted by other bada-portals...
THX in advance by Taxidriver05 form German bada-News-Blog badania.de.
(Maybe this post could be marked as "sticky"...)
Please...
Spoofing is NOT the reason why bada dies or is dead...
How many Apps/Games or other content is shared from Android and/or iPhone community?
Btw...
Why Flash Themes are much better protected as Apps?
DCF aka AES 128 is not broken for Themes...
Why Samsung share Fullcerts in bada SDK to sign Apps self ?
Remember... everywhere I can read NOT share private keys...
To prevent Security break...
Samsung Apps Store is hard to use...
Annoying Kies and Samsung Apps kona updates...
Then they are not able to handle certification process correct...
Remember Nxvigox or FEW other "jokes"...
Common, we have waiting very long... with maximum on patient...
With no Apps/Games bada is complete NOT attractiv for customers...
Not all customers can buy Apps for more then 5 Euro...
Also remember not all countries can buy...
Not all have credit cards...
Other pay method not ever work...
bada has many problems... more major problems then Spoofing.
bada Devs should ask Samsung about better protection of their Apps...
Hint... Flash Themes...
Best Regards
In some way you are right...
But you should take care about the fact how long Android and iOS are on market...
bada is quite young compared to thes OSes and should be pushed... Also by the community...
and spoofing is not an adequate method.
bada is quite young compared to thes OSes
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But for instance me my self and I... have bada handsets since over 1,5 years...
2 years is very loooong time...
I cant wait too long... I'm not the youngest anymore...
Please, remember how long Samsung play with bada "2"...
Now at the moment we can also play with bada 2.
Maybe Samsung fix Security holes... 1 day... in future...
Normally they could do it...
Anyway.
Spoofing is not the reason for dying bada...
Bad Customer Support...
Bad Firmware Support...
Bad Kies/ Samsung Apps Support...
Bad and very stupid comments in App Store...
Why it is allowed to write so much nonsense in comments...
Many bad and annoying "mistakes"...
.
.
.
Best Regards
adfree said:
Spoofing is not the reason for dying bada...
Bad Customer Support...
Bad Firmware Support...
Bad Kies/ Samsung Apps Support...
Bad and very stupid comments in App Store...
Why it is allowed to write so much nonsense in comments...
Many bad and annoying "mistakes"...
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.
Best Regards
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etc. etc. etc....
I completely agree with you.
The failure of bada OS is not going to be as a result of lack of customers,
but bada will surely fail as a result of Samsung's lack of support for the OS.
At times I wonder why we the customers are more eager for bada to grow and survive, more than Samsung themselves who pocket all the profits from the sales.
We have endured for so long. We have climbed to the highest heights of patience with bada OS. Maybe it's time now to start descending from these heights. Our patience is dying everyday. It's just a matter of time.
adfree said:
But for instance me my self and I... have bada handsets since over 1,5 years...
2 years is very loooong time...
I cant wait too long... I'm not the youngest anymore...
Please, remember how long Samsung play with bada "2"...
Now at the moment we can also play with bada 2.
Maybe Samsung fix Security holes... 1 day... in future...
Normally they could do it...
Anyway.
Spoofing is not the reason for dying bada...
Bad Customer Support...
Bad Firmware Support...
Bad Kies/ Samsung Apps Support...
Bad and very stupid comments in App Store...
Why it is allowed to write so much nonsense in comments...
Many bad and annoying "mistakes"...
.
.
.
Best Regards
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Unfortunately(?) I have to agree with you. Totally. I'm maybe harsh but in my opinion not allowing spoofing (or warez in any form) hurts Bada more than anything else... And I'm saying this by not having any warez on my phone. Why can android bloom even if all the apps are available as .apk everywhere? And it's the same with iOS. I'm pretty sure that Google and Apple would be able to lock down the apps, too, but they realized, that warez could drive the bussines. More apps -> more sold phones -> more profit (and more phones -> more users -> more sold apps so at the end even the developer gets more money..).
Of course it's just my 2 cents..
and think us who don't have paid samsung apps
Samsung doesn't really care about bada like you
I know this because i met Samsung employees & asked for their help several times but being a bada developer made them neglect me
Yes Samsung is too stupid in its way of support....if you don't have connections inside the company itself you may not get supported at all !!
And about Samsung Apps
Compare Samsung Apps to any other store.....
Even Android part is not that good in it
Samsung Apps was originally meant for bada but Android team wanted it too....
So now you can know who really get Samsung's support
About Spoofing
It is the way out for a user like me don't have a paid Samsung Apps till now
Yes it is planned next month...but you know Samsung's promises...
Spoofing is not killing bada....it is helping it to hold on or even keep its current users instead of going to another platform
Best Regards
http://developer.bada.com/article/Using-the-bada-Test-Kit
Btw... not realized before...
As I thought 1 App is limit...
But now bye bye Test Kid...
Chance to install more then 1 Sample App or self developed App,
without Samsungs Permission.
So 1 Dev not need Test Kid nor Samsungs Certification massaker...
Maybe then Filemanager or other usefull Tools possible. As App...
Best Regards
in my view, unfortunately, Bada is already dead
its pretty obvious by now that samsung wont be supporting/developing it in the future
maybe some more few firmwares with some bug corrections, but thats it
and spoofing had nothing to do with this
in fact, i think spoofing could only help the system to stay alive
one of the factors that made android a case of success, was the fact that the users could get most of the good apps for free (being it in a legitimate way or not)
no system will survive without a certain possiblity of hacking/piracy
I share my sympathy to all of you here. I too owned a Samsung Wave 1 phone before. It took me more than a year to believe the hope that Samsung will continue and develop Bada unto its peak since it fresh and young and it needs to cope up with what's already with today's other mobile platforms. I had enough already! I had my patience stretched with all the bad things given by our mates on the previous posts. But the patience eventually broke and decided I am worthy of the functionality I paid for. So sold my wave to my frustrations and I never been so happy in doing so after switching to android. Bada is good. But it has the least priority to Samsung. And that's the reason many hearts have been broken and wasted frustrations.
I do not hate Samsung. I hate how they handle Bada and how they fool the owners of Bada phones to but them. I own a Samsung android phone to date. But Samsung should not have released Samsung Bada from the first place. The way they handle its development is making themselves and especially their platform "Bada" shameful.
we, the people who bought bada phones are just the guinea pigs of a samsung experiment that failed
i bet a lot of people who bought a bada phone, especially the 1st wave (as is my case), thought the same as i did:
1) "wow.. such a great hardware for so little money" (i bought mine new for just 200 euros... unlocked!) "what a deal... hardware specs equal or better to an iphone, but at a quarter of the price"
2) "so it has a new OS... hmm.. its still in develpment and has room to grow... and with a big company like Samsung behind it..... hmmm... ill give it a try"
had samsung succeeded in developing the platform right, and today we would still have a killer phone
(imo, if my s8500 was an android or iOS phone, i wouldnt excahnge it for no other)
but unfortunately Samsung failed, leaving us with a great hardware piece of kit, but with no software to make really good use of it
Perfectly said!

Ubuntu Phone OS

So I've Been a Big fan of Ubuntu for a while and I was thrilled to see that they will be releasing a phone OS sometime hopefully soon. Since I have the laptop dock I have always wanted to try to put full ubuntu on it. However that never fully worked on and had to be done on a blur based rom. I love the new JB rom I have on my phone as It performs well. But at the end of the video 21:00 Mark Shuttleworth, the Founder of Ubuntu stated that Ubuntu Phone runs on ARM based chips and Android Kenerals and Drivers.
I'm just wondering Who else would love to see this run and be compatible on the atrix AND the dock. If we still have a decent amount of developers I'm sure this is more than possible.
Heres the Link for the video:
http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/phone
Just putting the idea out there, but if there are any developers capable of this I'd be more than happy to support.
phone spesification is enough for run and if canonical is behind this i think its possible
I was about to post this as a new thread but when I saw this thread I decided to post it in here.
Happy New Year!
According to the video below Ubuntu for Phones will be compatible with any Android designed-hardware. If I understood it correctly, Atrix last chance is with Ubuntu for Phones for sure.
http://www.androidcentral.com/canonical-announces-its-ubuntu-smartphone-os
I have already said that once before that one reason the OEMs lock the bootloader of their phones is to prevent other platforms to be installed to shorten the life of the devices.
Millions of capable Android devices have already been abandoned due to lack of software support which I blame Google directly to allow the implementation of Wild Wild West on Android platform. The only loser in Android world is and will always be the consumers. Ubuntu for Phones will be the left jab that Google didn't see coming. I personally looking forward to see what Ubuntu for Phones can bring this year.
Update: it seems Ubuntu for Phones will not be available until 2014
Seems BBC covered the story
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-20891868
and in the article says that it will be released for the samsung galaxy nexus. porting from that to the Atrix may be hard, but it should be like CyanogenMod a little. So thats a little boost to say the least.
I also emailed canonical and showed interest in helping with the project especially with the lapdock capabilities, so ill let you guys know what I get back from them, and If its any useful Ill be sure to forward it to every developer possible.
Yes and simply
Yes it's possible for our Atrix, jus read that :
"Easier hardware enablement
We have teams based in Taipei, Shanghai, London, Beijing and Boston to engage with your engineering and factory operations – and their sole focus is to deliver a crisp Ubuntu experience on your device.
Ubuntu has already been adapted to run on chipsets using the ARM and Intel x86 architectures relevant for mobile devices, with the core system based around a typical Android Board Support Package (BSP). So chipset vendors and hardware manufacturers do not need to invest in or maintain new hardware support packages for Ubuntu on smartphones. In short, if you already make handsets that run Android, the work needed to adopt Ubuntu will be trivial."
So alright we don't MAKE handsets that runs android but we have one, we also have the kernel drivers no ? so with that it's like port a cyanogenmod ROM I think. My quote come from canonical web-site (sorry new member so I can"t post outside links ><) so it's a truth information
leclercqsteeven said:
So alright we don't MAKE handsets that runs android but we have one, we also have the kernel drivers no ? so with that it's like port a cyanogenmod ROM I think. My quote come from canonical web-site (sorry new member so I can"t post outside links ><) so it's a truth information
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Yep, we have Ubuntu drivers but we're not sure we will be able to use them. But indeed the project of having Ubuntu running as main OS on the Atrix is realistic as we have all the material (HW and SW) required for this, if our devs know how to use them, but I think a whole team would be required for a project this big. It's not just a port of Cyanogen, it's not about taking a kernel and some drivers and snap them with a more recent UI and newer apps. We only got a kernel and an X server, it's far enough but the thing is that this X server was published to run on dev platforms. But also know it can be used on an Atrix, but how to integrate it with a whole new platform ? It will require time mostly. I think. And devs. But we don't have many devs so we only have hope. But maybe the devs on XDA will look more at the Atrix and Webtop.
CSharpHeaven said:
Update: it seems Ubuntu for Phones will not be available until 2014
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Actually it's supposed to be available late 2013 - according to lifehacker....
http://lifehacker.com/5972559/the-ubuntu-mobile-os-introduced-today-coming-to-phones-in-2014
The Ubuntu Phones that ship with the OS will most likely be available in 2013 in the UK, and will clear american shores in Hopefully late 2013, but most likely will arrive around early 2014.
The OS itself will most likely clear for deployment sometime soon for the samsung galaxy nexus, as for a universal build I'm not sure If/when that will be available, so most likely we will have to see if one can be constructed for the atrix.
As far as the lack of developers, I fell that any and all developers that are still in possession of an operational atrix will want to test this, especially on a phone that isnt their daily driver and has capabilities of bringing back a strong webtop front.
absolutely possible
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzc0uMXGFBY
i like the ubuntu webtop, its run smooth and fast :good:
I think the atrix should be able to run it. just not mine unless the new bootloader gets figured out
Well I really think that Ubuntu can run on the Atrix, because they share the same idea, which is killed by Google: The webtop.
We just plug the phone into a dock, connect it to a monitor and that's it. Besides, the original webtop is just a big browser without many supported applications.
Several webtop-mods have shown that it is possible to run a full Debian or Ubuntu Linux on the phone.
And having one OS for mutliple devices is the stratagy that Microsoft now tries with Windows 8 on Tablets. But other than Windows, Ubuntu really got the chance to do it right.
Possible to run, but...
Well, I'm sure, it won't be a real problem to run the Ubuntu phone OS on Atrix 4g, IMHO, I'm really suprised, they used Atrix 2 and his adventages in testing. It's but I'm sure, HW would not work on 100%. Everyone knows, what is a problem with HWA drivers fot ICS+ even on android. Fingerprint drivers will be problem too... the best roms are (at least in my opinion) GB ones. This is the "tax" we pay for extraordinary HW in Atrix 4G.
Another problem in optimalization is the date of release (futher in future...who knows, how many devs will stay..)
This OS already has its own section on xda and it hasn't even been released yet lol anyways u can share your thoughts on Ubuntu for phone here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2082789
Phone Slow? go HERE
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Like I said If I got an email back I would let you guys know and sure enough it came and here it is
Thank you very much for your interest towards Ubuntu on smartphones. We have received an incredible response and have been overwhelmed with the general positive feedback! Responses both from the general public and the industry have been far greater that we expected.
In order to make Ubuntu a truly fantastic smartphone experience we will be initially working with manufacturers who will build Ubuntu into their hardware. We anticipate market availability of Ubuntu on smartphones towards the end of 2013.
To reach this goal, and offer a great experience for future consumers, our first priority will be to respond to industry inquiries from manufacturers/OEMs, silicon partners, developers and mobile operators. If you are a potential industry partner, we’d like to learn more about you. Please register your interest through our web form: http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/phone/contact-us
If you are a mobile apps developer, and want to learn how you can help bring Ubuntu to the phone, you can also find more information on:
http://developer.ubuntu.com/gomobile
We are all excited about Ubuntu for phones, but it will take some time to get into the marketplace. If you leave us your email and country details, we will let you know when there is further news:
https://forms.canonical.com/manhattan/
Once again, thank you for your interest in Ubuntu!
Yours sincerely,
The Ubuntu for smartphones team at Canonical
Pretty much everything you could have read up on :/
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Hello people.
Searching the past week about this topic, I found the "How to upload" Ubuntu for phones on Tegra Devices like our Atrix.
Here you could find some info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/TEGRA/AC100
This will help un too: http://ac100.grandou.net/nvflash#debian_ubuntu_package
https://developer.nvidia.com/linux-tegra
And here, the Ubuntu for phones. http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/quantal/release/
They recommend the Lubuntu 12:10 because it supposedly run from the box. I did not try this yet until I have all the tools(software & knowledge) ready...
It could be nice to have to opportunity to flash it like any ROM, but, sometimes I like the "hard" way in order to learn and develop myself.
Well guys, BON APPETITE !!!!!
While it's possible from a technical standpoint, I just don't see the developer interest which is a shame really, since the device's only weakness is the lack of updates.
Dav0 said:
Hello people.
Searching the past week about this topic, I found the "How to upload" Ubuntu for phones on Tegra Devices like our Atrix.
Here you could find some info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/TEGRA/AC100
This will help un too: http://ac100.grandou.net/nvflash#debian_ubuntu_package
https://developer.nvidia.com/linux-tegra
And here, the Ubuntu for phones. http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/quantal/release/
They recommend the Lubuntu 12:10 because it supposedly run from the box. I did not try this yet until I have all the tools(software & knowledge) ready...
It could be nice to have to opportunity to flash it like any ROM, but, sometimes I like the "hard" way in order to learn and develop myself.
Well guys, BON APPETITE !!!!!
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This option to install ubuntu is impossible. U would risk to delete/brick partitions or nands. We need a IMG file with the filestructure and flash it with the fastboot/CWM. I can mount ubuntu 11.04 but the problem is no UI loading. Only usable is the terminal.
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Hai_Duong said:
This option to install ubuntu is impossible. U would risk to delete/brick partitions or nands. We need a IMG file with the filestructure and flash it with the fastboot/CWM. I can mount ubuntu 11.04 but the problem is no UI loading. Only usable is the terminal.
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No is not impossible. You partition an SD card load it up with kernel and system and use a dual boot solution to boot into the kernel on SD card. Of course some minor changes needed on the kernel. But not impossible.
also porting cyanogenmod is not as simple as grabbing a few drivers and adding a few kernel bits. It is a monumental task of trial and error with hundreds of lines of code to patch and sometimes full libraries have to be re written. Shoot the radio layer on the atrix was a quick hack job on cm for atrix.
Porting Ubuntu is tho should be quite easy. And maybe could even one day live in that juicy 750mb web top partition.
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You'd probably have to have /home on the internal sdcard to use /osh for installing Ubuntu.
Funny that this is the third thread in the last few days talking about using stand-alone Ubuntu on the device.
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No is not impossible. You partition an SD card load it up with kernel and system and use a dual boot solution to boot into the kernel on SD card. Of course some minor changes needed on the kernel. But not impossible.
also porting cyanogenmod is not as simple as grabbing a few drivers and adding a few kernel bits. It is a monumental task of trial and error with hundreds of lines of code to patch and sometimes full libraries have to be re written. Shoot the radio layer on the atrix was a quick hack job on cm for atrix.
Porting Ubuntu is tho should be quite easy. And maybe could even one day live in that juicy 750mb web top partition.
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I mean like webtop in atrix just docking u phone and start Ubuntu version 12.04 and not 9.04 jaunty . And a small question: why does nobody can make it work? there are big changes to make it work I think. Dual boot is without a proof not working for me
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